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Posted by: Dominic Nov 4 2015, 09:48 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-PORSCHE-914-2-0L-ID-PLATE-MODEL-INFORMATION-OEM-BUY-NOW-OR-MISS-OUT-/141804936383?hash=item21043b9cbf:g:xXEAAOSwhcJWI6AJ&vxp=mtr
Posted by: Tom_T Nov 4 2015, 10:00 AM
IIRC it's illegal in CA & most states. 
Maybe one of our member cops or DMV employees can weigh in?
Tom
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Posted by: matthepcat Nov 4 2015, 10:01 AM
That's gotta be breaking some law
Posted by: mepstein Nov 4 2015, 10:05 AM
It's done/been done, all the time with every car ever made.
I doubt it's illegal to buy or sell.
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Nov 4 2015, 10:11 AM
Its not even a complete set...sheesh...
Posted by: Andyrew Nov 4 2015, 10:13 AM
And its a 76 no less!
Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 4 2015, 10:15 AM
SirAndy alert...it is not in the database. It would be the second earliest '76 listed.
Obviously DOA.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Nov 4 2015, 10:15 AM
Federal offense, no?
Posted by: championgt1 Nov 4 2015, 10:25 AM
$500.00 Buy it now! 
Posted by: Kansas 914 Nov 4 2015, 10:35 AM
I doubt it's illegal to buy or sell.
The trouble comes when you register the car I would think - if caught.
Posted by: Mike Fitton Nov 4 2015, 10:44 AM
I doubt it's illegal to buy or sell.
The trouble comes when you register the car I would think - if caught.
+1
Posted by: whitetwinturbo Nov 4 2015, 11:31 AM
The party starts when you attach to your sled and the DMV says that VIN is in stolen car database 
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 4 2015, 12:48 PM
Did anyone actually get the VIN?
The Ad has been removed ...
Posted by: 7TPorsh Nov 4 2015, 12:52 PM
4762900118 ...not in our dbase
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 4 2015, 12:54 PM
Thank you Sir! Added to the database ...
Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 4 2015, 12:59 PM
Thank you Sir! Added to the database ...
I thought it was 4762900018
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 4 2015, 01:17 PM
Seriously? Nobody bothered to write this down? Y'all know that eBay Ads don't stay around forever, right?
Posted by: jd74914 Nov 4 2015, 01:30 PM
The first 118 VIN was correct. 
Posted by: mepstein Nov 4 2015, 01:32 PM
Vin
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Posted by: Lennies914 Nov 4 2015, 01:34 PM
The link still works. In fine print it says "see original listing"
4762900118 is correct.
Too slow
Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 4 2015, 01:55 PM
The first 118 VIN was correct.
My bad....I blame it on being old and blind...can't tell a '1' from a '0'.....good thing I'm not a computer programmer.
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 4 2015, 01:56 PM
More ...
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Posted by: pdlightning Nov 4 2015, 02:12 PM
The link still works. In fine print it says "see original listing"
4762900118 is correct.
Too slow
In California, CHP is the only agency authorized to Re-vin vehicles. They blue tag vehicles when doing so.
Posted by: RobW Nov 4 2015, 04:48 PM
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Garland Nov 4 2015, 05:03 PM
What is the small plate? 352-9024 have not seen it before, is this only in late cars?
And what is it mounted to? Is this in place of the stamped number in the trunk?
Posted by: thieuster Nov 4 2015, 05:15 PM
Well... it's not allowed on cars that are imported into Europe... Messing with the VIN is considered a crime. As in: smuggling a stolen car into the country. And the buyer has to prove that the car wasn't stolen - at any time in its history. With old cars, that's virtually impossible!
Overhere in Holland, Dutch DMV is always willing to help a classic car owner: with advise, safety checks etc. But do not try to bring them a car with obvious signs of a 'touched' VIN. Point is, it is mandatory that you need to go to a DMV test station before you can put a Dutch license plate on an imported classic car.
I've seen a Jaguar E Type body taken away to the shredder by the authorities... And besides that, the owner has to pay a hefty fee.
Menno
Posted by: gms Nov 4 2015, 05:30 PM
I sent him a message that the sale of a VIN is illegal in most States.
probably took my advise and pulled them down
Posted by: gms Nov 4 2015, 05:31 PM
what seem like common sense to us is not always known to everyone
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Nov 4 2015, 05:41 PM
That car was only one number off from my car 4762900117
Bob
Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 4 2015, 05:55 PM
Does the registry here tell you if the car has been scrapped, etc?
Allow you to add a note?
If it does I'd make note of this "incident".
Posted by: SirAndy Nov 4 2015, 06:15 PM
Allow you to add a note?
If it does I'd make note of this "incident".
Yes, yes and yes ...
Posted by: Steve Nov 4 2015, 06:24 PM
Too funny that it's a 76 vin. They most likely swapped the vin on the car to an earlier vin/year, so it would be smog exempt.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Nov 4 2015, 07:15 PM
You can sell VIN plates? I'M RICH!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, I don't sell mine, even though guys always want the Speedster ones.
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Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 4 2015, 08:19 PM
Posted by: r_towle Nov 4 2015, 08:22 PM
You can sell VIN plates? I'M RICH!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, I don't sell mine, even though guys always want the Speedster ones.
No, you are Adam, I am Rich
Posted by: Blue6 Nov 4 2015, 08:36 PM
The link still works. In fine print it says "see original listing"
4762900118 is correct.
Too slow
In California, CHP is the only agency authorized to Re-vin vehicles. They blue tag vehicles when doing so.
That is correct, only CHP can issue a re-vin. The DMV does actively investigate vin switches, especially on older cars such as ours. In Ca we had a once famous hot rod builder, Boyd Coddington, who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Not only did they shut him down, but they went after his customers. His customers were heavily fined, their car were revalued and taxed, and several testified against Coddington....
Bull$hit, cause all parties involved knew what was happening...
Google a recent story in which the L A county Assistant Sheriff, Michael Rothans, was caught driving a 2012 Audi that was a vin switch. He bought it from a tow yard. He was forced to resign...
Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 4 2015, 08:55 PM
The link still works. In fine print it says "see original listing"
4762900118 is correct.
Too slow
In California, CHP is the only agency authorized to Re-vin vehicles. They blue tag vehicles when doing so.
That is correct, only CHP can issue a re-vin. The DMV does actively investigate vin switches, especially on older cars such as ours. In Ca we had a once famous hot rod builder, Boyd Coddington, who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Not only did they shut him down, but they went after his customers. His customers were heavily fined, their car were revalued and taxed, and several testified against Coddington....
Bull$hit, cause all parties involved knew what was happening...
Google a recent story in which the L A county Assistant Sheriff, Michael Rothans, was caught driving a 2012 Audi that was a vin switch. He bought it from a tow yard. He was forced to resign...
Had to check that story....Yeh his story really passes the sniff test...a 2012 Audi for $3K
What a dumbass
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-sheriff-stolen-audi-purchase-20151008-story.html
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Nov 4 2015, 10:08 PM
You can sell VIN plates? I'M RICH!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, I don't sell mine, even though guys always want the Speedster ones.
No, you are Adam, I am Rich
I'll be in MA tomorrow, I'll see about that!
Posted by: SixerJ Apr 20 2016, 04:24 AM
Ok not quite a blatant a VIN tag eBay sale that started this thread, but yesterday I spotted this 914-6 VIN tag for sale on UK eBay (9141430080) which looks like what 1/4 way through the 71 production year?
There was a BIN or possibly a best offer on this item & it looks like it was sold (in hours) rather than eBay taking it down
Either way I just checked the world, Glenn Stazak's and p914-6info.net and 9141430080 does not appear
Sale description was "A chassis plate from a Porsche 914/6 which was scrapped many years ago, nice item to add to a collection of Porsche memorabilia"
I was going to add it to the DB myself, add the photos, text / list it as dead but I must be being uniquely stupid today as I could only figure out how to add it as one of my own VIN's which I do not want to do. I've PM'd SirA to get it added so hopefully this car is not 're-created' and sold to the unsuspecting
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 20 2016, 11:18 AM
After an unpleasant experience with an auto theft task force in California that finally forced me to call the District Attorneys office I can assure you that screwing around with a VIN plate will land you in some deep trouble. The ONLY organization that was of ANY help to me was the California Highway Patrol. Long story. Ask me about it sometime. 
Don't f*ck with one of these.
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Posted by: whitetwinturbo Apr 20 2016, 11:38 AM
Super WRONG to re-mount VIN tags..... 
Posted by: ConeDodger Apr 20 2016, 06:36 PM
Seriously? Nobody bothered to write this down? Y'all know that eBay Ads don't stay around forever, right?
Here is the pic from the ad f you can read it...
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Posted by: infraredcalvin Apr 20 2016, 09:47 PM
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/911067-fs-last-pillar-vin-plates-911-reproduction.html
Posted by: larryM Apr 21 2016, 08:27 PM
IIRC it's illegal in CA & most states. :confused:
Tom
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illegal in CA to remove a VIN number (plate)
- even if you have an old MG where it is just screwed on - a friend got in trouble with CHP over that on an old Morris Mini cuz he removed it to do a resto repaint (along with installing a chevy v8)
possible solution is to sell a chunk of body with attached VIN & title as a "resto project" - as this eBay'er is apparently doing
not much different than a few recent 911 & 356 rustbuckets that have gone across eBay - totally un-restorable piles of rusted junk in any sane budget scenario, - ($40K for a "numbers matching" 356 hulk recently, $10K for a burned out 911 hulk)
i once lived in a state where both VINs & engine numbers were on the title - it was legal to do a "body change" or an "engine change" under the oem VIN/engine ID - either way you had a "new car"
- it is an axiom in Mustang - Chevy circles that more "originals" are now on the road/auction-block than the factory ever made
i.e. - let the buyer take his chances if he drills out the rivets & attaches the plates to a donor body -
i know a couple 914-6 VINs that have re-appeared on non-oem bodies ('cuz i once owned the rusted hulks); and of several similar MG-Austin restos, including a Healey kit-car
goes on in every "collectible" old car venue
lots of money to be made, eh? (except on a '76 VIN 914 in CA!!)
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