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Posted by: BravoHotel Jun 11 2003, 06:32 PM

I've got the cooler. The sandwich plate/thermostat and new air dam are on the way. Now I have to decide what kind of hose to use. I think that braided hose is overkill...it looks cool, but no one will ever see it and it looks like a PITA to work with. Does anyone have experience with the slip fit "barbed" fittings and hose that Aeroquip, Russell and others sell. The fittings are rated to 200psi, which should be more than enough...plus much less expensive.

Any suggestions apprecitated

BH

Posted by: Mark Henry Jun 11 2003, 06:38 PM

It may be cheaper, but nothing flows as good as the stainless/teflon hose.

Posted by: ChrisReale Jun 11 2003, 06:40 PM

Where are you routing the hose? Where did you get the front air dam? Mocal stuff is prettty affordable I believe...??

Posted by: drew365 Jun 11 2003, 06:41 PM

There was a thread on this about a week ago. What heat rating does the Aeroquip slip fit hose have? Their braided hose is only rated at 300 deg. I think that's cutting it a little close. Earl's is rated at 450 deg. What size cooler did you buy?
I just did some research and Earl's is also rated at 300 deg. McMaster-Carr has some rated at 450deg.

Posted by: BravoHotel Jun 11 2003, 08:02 PM

Chris, I ordered the "RSR" type air dam from GT-Racing ($221 + UPS ground). I haven't totally figured out the routing of the hose, but was thinking inside the outer rocker panels.

Drew do you think I need a temp rating above 300deg? With the cooler, oil should stay well below 200.

BH

Posted by: Mark Henry Jun 11 2003, 08:26 PM

Brad showed me a cool way to run the lines!
Check out:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=797&hl=oil+cooler

Posted by: drew365 Jun 11 2003, 08:35 PM

I'll be doing a front cooler in the next month and am researching it myself. Most of the racers I asked at the track are using Earl's stainless steel braided lines and suggested -12an. That hose is rated at 300deg and 1000psi so I feel that is adequate. That's what I plan on using, I'm sure the Aeroquip stainless braided is just as good. I only want to do the job once and I don't want a major oil spill so I'm not going to try to save money on the lines. I haven't decided yet what size oil cooler to get. I have a Mocal oil thermostat to use. I've got to decide on the best routing of the lines. It seems like there's no way to get into the front trunk without going through the corner of the footwell. Anyone have any good ideas on line routing?

Posted by: drew365 Jun 12 2003, 06:25 PM

Here's a pic JP posted of his lines going through what I think are the heater ducts. Since I haven't ever messed with these ducts can someone tell me where the lines would exit at the other end?

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Posted by: ! Jun 12 2003, 08:02 PM

What temp you run at is the function of a thermostat. Running w/o one can damage the cooler on start up by hitting a slug of cold oil at high pressure into the cooler.

Running at less than optimum operating temps/short trips will allow sludge to build up in the engine....

A cooler will keep an engine cooler LONGER at high speeds/spirited driving. It should NOT lower operating temps.

Posted by: Qarl Jun 12 2003, 08:06 PM

Damn Mikez.... that avatar is mesmerizing!

I curse you!

What's it from?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jun 12 2003, 08:12 PM

I described in that thread where the lines exit. I yank the "J" tube out the longitudinal and the line exit out of the factory hole that has a plastic "cap" on it. The hole will need to be enlarged... but its easy to see where they come out. I cant find a pic that I took showing this.

B

Posted by: drew365 Jun 13 2003, 11:12 AM

I'm going to poke my nose around and try to figure out the exit point for the lines this weekend. In the mean time one more question: The Mocal thermostat, where's the best place to put it, near the cooler or in the engine bay? Is that a thermostat in JP's pic?

Posted by: L8Apex Jun 13 2003, 12:14 PM

I thought about hard lines. What do you guys think? pros/cons? Race car, so I don't care much about how they look when i run them through the interior of the car.

What kind of material to use? aluminum? steel? I would have the hardlines through the straightest part of the car, then have braided to the cooler and braided to the sandwich plate.

I know what brad is going to say, "more stuff that can fail"

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jun 14 2003, 12:16 AM

I'm going to run hard lines for the 3.6 car.

B

Posted by: L8Apex Jun 14 2003, 01:30 AM

ah ha! Ok, my question is, what kind of lines should I use? where to get them?

Posted by: J P Stein Jun 14 2003, 03:21 AM

That is a Troutman thermostat. The lines exit where Brad said, but I left the duct in and took a hole saw to it thru that hole.....it wasn't pretty....had to clean it up with my handy-dandy die grinder. Here's a pic...not a gud one, but a pic.

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