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Posted by: SKL1 Nov 19 2015, 09:49 PM

Was bleeding brakes today and tightening connections on the front sway bars and checked tightness of nuts on tie rod ends.
Pass side nice and tight. On driver's side the nut and shaft would spin rather easily but did turn together. Everything seems tight and no noticeable slop when driving. Also noted no way to put in cotter pins- couldn't find any holes. Can't figure out why one side is tight and other side turns?? Sorry for "dumb" question!!

Ball joints are new on both sides...

Wondered about new tie rod ends from Pelican- figured I'll need the tool to push out the old ones, right??

Posted by: dangrouche Nov 19 2015, 11:00 PM

The tie rod ends I have removed have always needed a ball joint separator or pickle fork. The Lemforder OEM tie rod ends used cotter pins. the non-OEM cheaper ones (made in Asia) use a Nyloc nut. The one that that you have that is rotating may either be not snugged up enough or there may have been a bit of grease in the hole when it was installed and that accounts for the ability for it to rotate. but if you say there is no slop, I would double check that you have no play whatsoever. could be that tie rod end was not up to spec. If you needed a wrench to rotate that nut, then I would not worry about it. If I can turn the nut with my hand, then I would replace that tie rod end. thinking about it some more, that steering arm may have an enlarged bore which accounts for you ability to rotate that tie rod end.

Posted by: Ductech Nov 20 2015, 08:59 AM

I've found that the cheapies do start rotating once you hit the nylock then you have to compress them into the arm to put some resistance against it to finish tightening. Channel locks!

Posted by: Spoke Nov 20 2015, 03:24 PM

You should tighten that tie rod bolt as soon as possible. I wouldn't drive on it till it's tightened.

Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 20 2015, 08:56 PM

Get rid of the nyloc and get a castle nut original with cotter pin. Old school thinking I know but why risk it!

Posted by: SKL1 Nov 20 2015, 08:59 PM

Looks like another order to Pelican- got 'em on speed dial!!

Posted by: draganc Nov 20 2015, 09:46 PM

Fyi, I just bought a brand new Lemforder turbo tie rod and it had a nylon nut, not the castle nut.
Bought it from a legit source.

Posted by: RobW Nov 21 2015, 06:34 AM

QUOTE(draganc @ Nov 20 2015, 07:46 PM) *

Fyi, I just bought a brand new Lemforder turbo tie rod and it had a nylon nut, not the castle nut.
Bought it from a legit source.

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Posted by: injunmort Nov 21 2015, 07:19 AM

if the taper is seated correctly. nylock is fine. the nylock nuts are one use only. clean the taper well, sprinkle a little talc in the taper and set the weight of the car on the joint to set the taper and tighten.

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