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Posted by: nordfisch Dec 12 2015, 12:50 PM

I once misadjusted a trigger-points-set believing in this would solve the problems of my car... the unit was still functional afterwards, but I didn't believe in it's reliability anymore.
I found this device many years later in my cellar, decided to readjust it and therefore did some re-engineering.
The result was a tool you can control and readjust your trigger-points-set with.

The trigger-points themselves don't show any wear. But the fibre rubbing blocks are being grinded down when gliding on the distributor-camshaft, especially when this has become rusty or the original small amount of grease has been gone away.

You can adjust even heavy worn trigger-points without any electrical function to the original values by using the tool, that simulates the bottom of the distributor-camshaft.
The lifetime of the trigger-point-unit can be prolonged about two additive times this way.

This new version is designed to work with the new trigger-points-sets with the plastic hoods covering the points, too.
The tool has been well approved in four continents now - no reason to change anything on it in the future.

You need a lathe to produce the tool by yourself.
Registered users will get a figure - free for non-commercial use only -
completed with the dimensions, on request.
I don't want this figure to be published in a forum anymore.

D-Jetronic is my hobby and I have no financial interest, but not everyone has a lathe to produce it by himself, therefore I have some ready-produced tools in stock most of the time.
I can ship the tool worldwide for $ 20.-, shipment included.

For further information / questions / additions post to this forum or contact me via PM.

How to use the tool for adjusting the Trigger-points of the D-Jetronic

The model-specific flute (notch) of the tool has to be pushed into the noses of the base-plate of the points-set or the base-plate itself.
This flute centers the tool to the same position as it were in the distributor. This allows exact and symmetric adjustment.

Because there exist base-plates in three different thicknesses, the matching flute has to be chosen (figure below!):

1 - On the top a flute for Volkswagen, Porsche...?
2 - On the bottom a flute for base-plates-sets with 3 'noses' (Opel, Volvo, Lancia, Fiat, Citroën, Mercedes - R6, BMW, ...?)
3 - On the second position from bottom a flute for Mercedes – V8

The figure below shows the tool in position (points set type '2').
Attached Image

1. Adjust space between tool and fibre rubbing blocks to 0.02 in (0,50 mm) in this position by bending the sheets of the anvil-plate with flat-nose pliers, checking with a feeler-gauge.

2. By inserting a feeler-gauge of 0.04 in (1,00 mm) instead you can check the points in fully-opened situation. The points gap will be 0.03 in (0,75 mm) if correctly adjusted.

Adjusting the points has to be approved with sense, power and skillfulness. I used flat-nose-pliers and after some trying out got exact adjustments.

You have to take care of the following:

1. The tool has to be pushed into the the trigger-unit all the way up to the stop. Some turning the tool and trying again may help, perhaps a little grease will help. The tool has to fit exactly, therefore the tolerance is minimized.

2. The anvil-plate of the points is mounted insulated, therefore may have some tolerance towards the base-plate. After adjusting one side of the trigger-points-pair, you have to control the opposite side. Maybe you have to re-adjust this a couple of times.

But: The D-Jetronic is not a direct injection system. You need not try to adjust the points too precisely. Adjustment to 0.02 in is the optimal value cause then all possible tolerances are adjusted to the average. Even new original trigger points have some tolerance, as I found out.

Take care the points are absolutely clean, no grease or oil remains between them.
Control the distributor-camshaft isn't rusty or worn-out, scratched
You essentially have to grease the fibre rubbing blocks by applying a very small amount of points cam grease when re-installing the trigger-point-unit also.

You use this tool at your own risk. It has not been approved by the OEM. Using the tool, you accept this term.

(Tool Ver 3.1Xen © 10/2014)

Norbert Fischer

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Dec 12 2015, 07:51 PM

Hi Norbert, I would like to order one of these tools. Let me know how to pay you (send me an email or PM through this forum). Many thanks.

Posted by: nordfisch Dec 13 2015, 06:51 AM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Dec 13 2015, 02:51 AM) *

Hi Norbert, I would like to order one of these tools. Let me know how to pay you (send me an email or PM through this forum). Many thanks.

Hi Jeff,
you could transfer the money via PayPal.
I then need your full postal adress.
The customs have never been a problem up to this time, shipment will last about 10 days in normal times. But now is Christmas time, postal services maybe overcharged.
Send you a PM.

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: McMark Dec 13 2015, 12:13 PM

PM me a PayPal address as well. I'll take one.

Posted by: Krieger Dec 13 2015, 12:22 PM

Nice! I'd like one too. Please PM a Paypal address.

Posted by: jmalone Dec 13 2015, 06:27 PM

Thanks for doing this. I would like one as well. Please send me your PayPal info.

Posted by: Philip W. Dec 14 2015, 07:58 AM

This is excellent since the original OEM points are now no longer available!!
I'll take one as well

Posted by: BillC Dec 14 2015, 09:42 AM

This is a great idea. I would also like to order one. Please send me a PM with your paypal info. Thanks!

Posted by: nordfisch Dec 16 2015, 07:17 AM

Hi,
I now shipped all the tools.
Would like to get informed, when they arrive.

Best Wishes and a Merry Christmas santa_smiley.gif from Germany

Norbert

Posted by: Philip W. Dec 16 2015, 07:19 AM

QUOTE(nordfisch @ Dec 16 2015, 08:17 AM) *

Hi,
I now shipped all the tools.
Would like to get informed, when they arrive.

Best Wishes and a Merry Christmas santa_smiley.gif from Germany

Norbert

Norbert,

I just sent you payment for mine, sorry I forgot to do this last night, but you should have funds in your account as we speak!! thanks

Dr. Phil

Posted by: ndfrigi Dec 16 2015, 11:06 AM

Hi Norbert, do you still have 1 set of this tool?

Posted by: pilothyer Dec 16 2015, 12:16 PM

If you have more, I would love to have one...........Jerry

Posted by: ssuperflyoldguy Dec 23 2015, 11:14 AM

I would like one also, I'll send you a request via pm. Thanks for making this up, really appreciate.

Posted by: BillC Dec 24 2015, 06:26 AM

Mine arrived last night, and it's very nice. Thanks! beerchug.gif

Posted by: liebe Dec 24 2015, 06:45 AM


Norbert i would also like one too please

Posted by: nordfisch Jan 13 2016, 01:00 PM

Hi,
two users informed me they did not receive the tools I shipped last year immediately after having received the payment up to this time.

I can't track the letters I ship as 'Priority Mail'.

Maybe they are still at the customs, maybe they got lost in Germany...

Please inform me if you didn't receive the tool you ordered and paid, too

Regards
Norbert Fischer

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jan 13 2016, 01:05 PM

PM sent

Posted by: Old Yella Jan 13 2016, 05:54 PM

Bet they'll arrive, takes forever from Europe sometimes.

Posted by: Philip W. Jan 13 2016, 09:33 PM

Got mine, thank you!

Posted by: McMark Jan 14 2016, 04:28 AM

Got mine awhile back. Took me a minute to remember what the heck I ordered.

Posted by: saigon71 Jan 14 2016, 07:15 AM

PM sent to purchase one. Thanks!

Posted by: nordfisch Jan 14 2016, 09:09 AM

Sorry,
I ran out of tools at this time / must hold some back for the users that paid them but still did not get them.

I will inform you, when tools are avaible again.
Maybe some weeks, maybe soon if the tools I shipped are at their destination...

Must let produce some.
I'm just a hobbyist and the 914-community within 4 weeks ordered tools l sell else in 14 months...

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: ndfrigi Jan 15 2016, 03:15 PM

Hi Norbert,

Finally received mine from the mail. Wow it was shipped Dec. 16 and it took a month.
Thank you!

Posted by: nordfisch Jan 15 2016, 05:24 PM

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Jan 15 2016, 10:15 PM) *

Hi Norbert,

Finally received mine from the mail. Wow it was shipped Dec. 16 and it took a month.
Thank you!

Thank you, too for the information.
Have a lot of fun... smilie_wirdgut.gif

Don't hesitate to ask any question about how to use the tool.

------
There are some users that asked for a tool more than 2 weeks ago. I sent the payment information per PM, received no payment or shipping information up to this time.
Please don't send me money without having asked me I have tools in stock. I have no tools left at this time.

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: RenoRoger May 9 2016, 02:55 PM

QUOTE(nordfisch @ Jan 15 2016, 04:24 PM) *

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Jan 15 2016, 10:15 PM) *

Hi Norbert,

Finally received mine from the mail. Wow it was shipped Dec. 16 and it took a month.
Thank you!

Thank you, too for the information.
Have a lot of fun... :allright:

Don't hesitate to ask any question about how to use the tool.

------
There are some users that asked for a tool more than 2 weeks ago. I sent the payment information per PM, received no payment or shipping information up to this time.
Please don't send me money without having asked me I have tools in stock. I have no tools left at this time.

Regards


Hello Norbert;

Do you have any trigger point adjusting tools available? I would like to purchase one.

RenoRoger
Norbert


Posted by: nordfisch May 10 2016, 01:27 PM

QUOTE(RenoRoger @ May 9 2016, 10:55 PM) *

...
Hello Norbert;

Do you have any trigger point adjusting tools available? I would like to purchase one.

RenoRoger


Hi Roger,
the tools are available again. Same price (20.-$ per PayPal), Shipment included.
Sent you a P.M.

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: Kansas 914 May 10 2016, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(nordfisch @ May 10 2016, 01:27 PM) *

QUOTE(RenoRoger @ May 9 2016, 10:55 PM) *

...
Hello Norbert;

Do you have any trigger point adjusting tools available? I would like to purchase one.

RenoRoger


Hi Roger,
the tools are available again. Same price (20.-$ per PayPal), Shipment included.
Sent you a P.M.

Regards
Norbert

Hi Norbert,

I will send you a PM as I too would like the tool.

Regards - Mike

Posted by: 911rcr Jun 18 2016, 05:53 AM

Hi Norbert,

Pm sent to order.

Thanks for producing these!!

Posted by: Amphicar770 Apr 15 2017, 09:43 PM

Are you still offering these for sale? Thanks.

Posted by: nordfisch Apr 19 2017, 08:50 AM

QUOTE(Amphicar770 @ Apr 16 2017, 04:43 AM) *

Are you still offering these for sale? Thanks.

Yes, I have some ready produced toolsmost of the time - but I'm 'Offline' till next weekend.
Will send you a P.M. then.
Regards from Cuba
Norbert

Posted by: McMark Apr 19 2017, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(nordfisch @ Apr 19 2017, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(Amphicar770 @ Apr 16 2017, 04:43 AM) *

Are you still offering these for sale? Thanks.

Yes, I have some ready produced toolsmost of the time - but I'm 'Offline' till next weekend.
Will send you a P.M. then.
Regards from Cuba
Norbert

Two Germans in cuba at the same time? Is there a meeting?

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 19 2017, 01:54 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 19 2017, 10:15 AM) *

QUOTE(nordfisch @ Apr 19 2017, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(Amphicar770 @ Apr 16 2017, 04:43 AM) *

Are you still offering these for sale? Thanks.

Yes, I have some ready produced toolsmost of the time - but I'm 'Offline' till next weekend.
Will send you a P.M. then.
Regards from Cuba
Norbert

Two Germans in cuba at the same time? Is there a meeting?

Actually, i'm there with a whole bunch of Germans right now.

Don't know Nordfish though ...
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Posted by: Calwaterbear Apr 19 2017, 02:20 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 19 2017, 10:15 AM) *

QUOTE(nordfisch @ Apr 19 2017, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(Amphicar770 @ Apr 16 2017, 04:43 AM) *

Are you still offering these for sale? Thanks.

Yes, I have some ready produced toolsmost of the time - but I'm 'Offline' till next weekend.
Will send you a P.M. then.
Regards from Cuba
Norbert

Two Germans in cuba at the same time? Is there a meeting?

More likely planning an insurrection! Replace all the 50's american crap they call cars with some precision German engineered equipment!

Posted by: Gussoo007 Jun 1 2018, 05:22 PM

Hi. I would like to buy this tool too please. If you pm your PayPal dad dress I will send through a payment. Many thanks Gus

Posted by: nordfisch Jun 2 2018, 01:34 PM

PM sent...

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: akokarski Nov 4 2018, 06:35 PM

Hello Norbert,

I would like to purchase the tool as well, can you please PM me your email so I can paypal you.

Thank you,
Anton

Posted by: nordfisch Nov 5 2018, 10:40 AM

QUOTE(akokarski @ Nov 5 2018, 01:35 AM) *

Hello Norbert,

I would like to purchase the tool as well, can you please PM me your email so I can paypal you.

Thank you,
Anton

PM sent...

regards
Norbert

Posted by: dknechtly Sep 24 2019, 08:45 PM

Hi, Are you still making these? I sure would like one. - Thanks, Dennis

Posted by: Jett Sep 24 2019, 09:28 PM

Norbert, I would like one of the tools as well. please pm if available.

Thanks,
Darren

Posted by: nordfisch Sep 25 2019, 02:38 AM

Hi,
I still have tools to sell.


>PMs sent>

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: thomas@vintagecarleds.com Sep 25 2019, 08:54 AM

QUOTE(nordfisch @ Sep 25 2019, 03:38 AM) *

Hi,
I still have tools to sell.


>PMs sent>

Regards
Norbert


May I purchase one of these?

Posted by: nordfisch Sep 25 2019, 10:20 AM

PM sent

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: Justo Feb 13 2020, 03:25 PM

Hi Norbert, If you have any of the trigger-points adjusting tools in stock I'd like to buy one. Thanks Justin

Posted by: nordfisch Feb 13 2020, 03:51 PM

PM sent

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: cary Feb 13 2020, 03:51 PM

Me too ...

Posted by: nordfisch Feb 13 2020, 04:02 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Feb 13 2020, 11:51 PM) *

Me too ...


PM sent...

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: cary Feb 15 2020, 11:02 AM

PayPal sent

Posted by: Robson51 Feb 15 2020, 07:06 PM

PM sent

Rob Eiring

Posted by: davep Feb 15 2020, 09:54 PM

Oh sure, may as well keep the D-jet going.

Posted by: nordfisch Sep 23 2020, 03:12 PM

Hi,
I couldn't ship my tool during the last months - the shipping costs out of Europe would have been exorbitant high for me as a private person because of corona restrictions.

I am happy I can tell you I am now allowed again to ship to the U.S.A and Canada at an affordable price.
Shipped by ship, not by plane ... maybe shipment will last 30 days.

Not yet all over the world at this time... shipment to Australia would be 67,99€ / 80 USD for example.


Regards
Norbert

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Sep 23 2020, 07:29 PM

What is your current price, shipped to US? I'm no FI expert, but I've replaced my fair share of trigger points that had worn blocks and good points. Great idea Norbert!

Posted by: yellowporky Sep 23 2020, 07:50 PM

I would like one also please

Posted by: nordfisch Sep 24 2020, 07:54 AM

Hi,
the freight rates have rised, therefore I need 22 USD (or 18.- Euro) in full for the tool, <shipment to EC is cheaper>.

I will send a message with additional info to you, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=439 , @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10948

Regards
Norbert

Posted by: JOEPROPER Sep 24 2020, 07:56 AM

I'd be interested in one too. Please.

Posted by: cary Sep 24 2020, 07:59 AM

I'm (MiddleMotors) am in for one too ..........

Posted by: simonjb Sep 24 2020, 08:12 AM

I would like to buy one also...Thanks !!

Posted by: dghunta Dec 23 2020, 10:12 AM

Need one too @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19451 cheer.gif

Posted by: Rrrockhound Dec 23 2020, 08:04 PM

Count me in too, please, thanks!

Posted by: 914sgofast2 Dec 23 2020, 08:10 PM

If the tools are now again available, I will take one too!

Posted by: jack20 Dec 24 2020, 11:47 AM

I would also like to buy one of your tools. Please PM your PayPal info.
Jack

Posted by: nordfisch Feb 28 2021, 10:17 AM

Hi guys,
I have to tell you there have been problems in the shipment of the tool recently.
Some tools didn't arrive within two month, one more than two months.

When I shipped those tools, the information was 'shipment will last about one month during corona', now I found the following information <translated to English>:

Important

Please note that the shipping of DHL parcels and parcels to the USA is currently subject to exceptionally long transit times and to considerable delays relating to import customs clearance in the USA. This applies not only to shipments transported by sea, but to a lesser extent also to shipments with the Premium service.

The US Post Office (USPS) is currently unable to offer the usual quality of accepting and forwarding international shipments, nor can it provide us with reliable tracking information. We ask for a little patience until the backlog in the USA has been processed and the usual quality has been restored.


I sent the tools out no later than the day after I received money from you - Please tell me problems or give me information how long the shipment lasted.
Has been between 8 days and 5 weeks in the past...

I must beg you to wait for the tool arriving. I sent one out a second time but don't know it has been successsfully delivered up to this time.
The shipment is the most expensive part of the deal - more expensive than the tool itself.

Please don't order tools before the situation is stabilized.

Best Regards
Norbert smilie_flagge6.gif smilie_wirdgut.gif

Posted by: nordfisch Mar 3 2021, 11:46 AM

Once again...

I just received a message a tool I shipped 18 November to Fort Worth, TX arrived 3 March.

Best Regards
Norbert


Posted by: NortonMClassics Aug 8 2021, 01:00 PM

Hi Nordfish,
I would like to buy one of those tools for Mercedes m117 (8cyl)
Or I’d be happy to pay you for the technical data to manufacture one for myself.
Please let me know if one of those options are possible.
Best regards, Nick

Posted by: ROSANGELO84 Feb 27 2024, 07:53 PM

Hello M.R. Nordfish.
I found out your special tool for adjust D jetronic triggers.
Can i buy one from you?
I have some different cars provided with D jetronic (Mercedes /8, citroen Ds) and this would help me. I don t know if you produce this tool any more and i don t know costs.
Thank you very much, Angel.
rosangelo84@tiscali.it
Facebook: Angel Ross, Italy

Posted by: r_towle Feb 27 2024, 08:09 PM

Ok, WTH is this thread?

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