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Posted by: euro911 Dec 17 2015, 08:40 PM

I ordered a set of black plates for one of my (1960's era) cars last month - just curious if anybody has recently ordered some, and how long it took to take delivery?

This isn't what I ordered, it's just an example

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 17 2015, 11:30 PM

I may still order my personalized plates in the blk/yel as they still never authorized the blue/yellow.

Posted by: Larmo63 Dec 17 2015, 11:32 PM

I ordered personalized black/yellow plates, still haven't heard from the DMV.

Posted by: jeffzm Dec 18 2015, 08:22 AM

I ordered 2 sets about a month ago. have not received yet they said 5-6 weeks.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 18 2015, 09:12 AM

Very curious whether you can get all numbers (no letters) on the plate.
Crossing my fingers for you Mark!

Posted by: Jerodhelt Dec 18 2015, 10:02 AM

I just got a set about a week ago, took about 4-5 weeks to show up. Mine are not personalized, just the standard numbers and letters on black plates.

Posted by: C-Ya MK Dec 18 2015, 10:34 AM

I patiently waited a long 12.5 weeks, but I'm happy with the results.
Mike


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Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 18 2015, 10:50 AM

If we already have a personalized plate can it be done in the new black? Is it the same price? I already pay a premium every year to have the vanity plate.

Posted by: frankiec@outrageous.net Dec 18 2015, 11:09 AM

I had the same question as to how long the black plates take for delivery. I was told by the DMV that since the plates are made in prison it all depends on conditions at the prison. If there are any problems, disturbances or situations at the prison it will delay the plates being ordered. Also the request for the black plates is considerable, increasing the wait time.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 18 2015, 11:16 AM

I can't imagine there would be any problems at the prison(s) where these plates are made.....these people always got along well in society, right?

Posted by: pete000 Dec 18 2015, 11:59 AM

I might be weird, but I don't like the black plates on late cars. Guess I'm a originality nut ball type. My 74 still sports its original blue plates ! Too bad they did not make the blue ones too.

Posted by: frankiec@outrageous.net Dec 18 2015, 12:18 PM

I think if there's enough demand the DMV will start making new different color plates, at least that's what the DMV implied when I talked to them.

Posted by: euro911 Dec 18 2015, 01:07 PM

Yeah, me too, Gary, but I've seen pix of 'numbers only' plates on line: 1957, 1963 & 1966 (like the one shown in the first post).

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 18 2015, 01:42 PM

I've seen dozens of the new plates already, mostly with the random DMV sequence of letters/ numbers.
Funny though it looks like a presidential legacy plate, as all of the ones I see start out with the letters: B O

Posted by: 914_teener Dec 18 2015, 01:59 PM

Yep...seen them mostly on black on black newer Camaro's. Reminds me of James Bond or the FBI.

Personally I don't like the black plates on a Teener. Dunt look right.

Oh well everyone's likes are different.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 18 2015, 02:36 PM

I know but i see those for sale at Pomona and Long Beach. All number plates in Cali are official vehicles only. i order "1970 914" from DMV; they said it was avaialable and waited 4 months; then got a letter saying "nope". That was 2011.

The numbers only plates are white and have CA EXEMPT on them. I would suggest you check with DMV to see what the status and outcome is on your order....call Sacramento; don't go to local DMV...they don't have a clue...

I really hope I'm wrong and it's changed...

Posted by: euro911 Dec 18 2015, 03:22 PM

Agreed, the black plates don't look right on newer cars and the blue plates look more appropriate on 914s. Our '71 has blue plates, the '75 has white

I'm attempting to get the black plates for the early 60's cars.


I thought all the EXEMPT plates started off with an 'E'


Gary, did the DMV refund your $ ?

Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 18 2015, 03:50 PM

No refund, I ended up ordering the current one with mixed characters.

Take a look at all those police undercover Fords or any police car for that matter. Ambulance... all numbers with CA EXEMPT on them.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Dec 18 2015, 06:44 PM

If you're an Auto Club member, you can ask about all types of vanity + black plates while there in the AAA office. They do know their way around the DMV stuff. I get my annual tags there, usual visit is 10 minutes/no appointment/no attitude

Posted by: RobW Dec 18 2015, 07:36 PM

I'm used to the blue plates...

Posted by: euro911 Dec 18 2015, 08:18 PM

Yeah, been a member since 2007 (within a year of acquiring the 'BB')

DMV mails us annual tags, I typically only go to AAA when I get a 'new' vehicle.

I guess I should make a list of other choices if they don't come through with my first choice

Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 11 2016, 09:57 AM

Hey Mark, did these come in yet?

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 11 2016, 11:52 AM

Are you a knitter ?

Beautiful car.

Posted by: euro911 Mar 11 2016, 04:28 PM

I just received a notice that the plates are ready to be picked up at the local DMV office. The notice indicated that I need to provide the documentation for the car that they're going on ... so this might open a can of worms.

The car hasn't been registered for 36 years ... back when there was no such thing as NON-OP status - so if they try to hit me up for back fees, the car is going to AZ and CA can keep the plates

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 11 2016, 06:16 PM

I just got mine yesterday…..

Posted by: NeunEinVier Mar 11 2016, 06:41 PM

Neighbor has these plates on his white Benz Bluetec SUV. Kind of an odd combination...

Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 11 2016, 06:46 PM

I'm debating to get them or not...already paying the annual fee...I keep hoping the DVW realizes they got way more business than they bargained for and that they should do the blue plates.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 11 2016, 06:47 PM

Really want to see your plate now. If all numbers are allowed ...off to the DMW.

Posted by: Wyvern Mar 11 2016, 07:01 PM

I picked mine up today . exactly 12 weeks from order placed to letter notification.

My first choice was denied and got a letter saying they would not be made and money returned.
All numbers, a letter followed by numbers will not be allowed.
Sometimes the system will take the order but each is checked for "rudness" and for "plate sequences already issued" even if the plate sequence is CA exempt or held for other uses if the numbers are in use or a reserved sequence they will be denied.

I called and talked the the person who approves the plates when my first option was poo poo-ed . Yes a real person in Sac !. Her best response is that cameras only recognize the numbers and letters (not even spaces). and would not know if county / city / or other sequence.

I really did not like this re issue at first, as originality is now a bit lost .. but got over it .

Don't tell anyone ... but I have painted white reflector plates (personalized) Blue/ Yellow,(this works great because personalized plates were available in Blue/ Yellow). Also painted them Yellow/ black.& Black/ Yellow.
There are folks who will press plates for display and I did that on my 75 911 , so I kept the real plates and ran the Blue/ Yellow repress plates for 5+ years. Never had an issue . Sold the car with them and that I know of never an issue

From my good friend , who helps me with an occasional "fix it ticket" .If the numbers work the LE computers do not stipulate what "type" of plate it is.

I may well paint this Black/ Yellow to Blue/ Yellow.

YES . I know this isn't what you are supposed to do .and I am not advocating that you do this .. .... I'm just a rebel .. LOL

Go to the on line services on the DMV site . if the numbers are taken it wont let you move to the next step.
Remember is not avaliable sequence or breaks othere rules . the order may be taken. ... then denied.

I waited 8 weeks for my refusal of "73 914" the system took it but ... caught up with me.

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 11 2016, 07:48 PM

I waited 98 days for mine. Then, an hour and a half at the DMV. 15 windows, TWO people working the windows. 150+ people waiting. Typical government hacks.

They have NO motivation to move faster and/or be helpful.

What makes me mad is that I own my cars, I pay for EVERYTHING having to do with them, but these pointy headed government idiots act as if they are giving me the privilege of driving them.

Posted by: euro911 Mar 11 2016, 09:26 PM

Well, you just have to realize that the people who work at the DMV are the same people the post office let go

Posted by: 76-914 Mar 12 2016, 08:56 AM

Couldn't agree more. When I bought my 1st teener (the 76) I put it on non-op while I got it running. 2 hours, that's right. When it came time to get her on the road I went back to the DMV. 2 hours at the DMV and they couldn't locate my title or anything. It was an out of state purchase and I gave them my OG paper work when it was non-oped. Joined AAA that day and I swear to God, I was out of there in 15 mins w/ plates in hand. Every time I drive past a DMV and see all those Fools standing in a block long line I chuckle.

Posted by: Marv's3.6six Mar 12 2016, 12:29 PM

Ordered and paid for mine late December. Expected delivery some time this month, I chose to have them delivered to my local AAA. Waiting patiently........




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Posted by: Marv's3.6six Mar 12 2016, 12:31 PM

Very nice!

Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 12 2016, 12:38 PM

I wasn't given the opportunity to have them delivered to a AAA location. I never go to the DMV, unless I have to and I had to.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 13 2017, 09:30 PM

Just a follow up -

I read somewhere that they had to be delivered to the local DMV office ... so I went to the DMV with the title and the old blue rear plate, with the tag on it (never found the front plate). I had to fill out a couple of documents and paid $73. for the new registration (I had previously paid the $50. for the plate reservation on line.) Then I was told that the VIN needed to be verified

I friend got me in contact with a gal who retired from the DMV and she verified the VIN for the car in question ... ($60., but well worth it) ... I didn't have to rent a trailer and drag it out of storage to take it to the DMV for an inspection

When I went back to the DMV with the VIN verification document (which is the only paperwork that was lacking), the clerk I got was a real ass-wipe. She wouldn't accept the document and said I had to pay back fees from when the car was last registered (on the order of HUNDREDS of dollars!) I kindly argued my case with her (due to an idiotic DMV employee harassment policy - yes, there's sign on the wall regarding that), without gaining any yardage, so I asked, again, kindly, to speak with the manager.

After about a half-hour, I finally got to discuss the issue with the manager. She seemed to understand the specific codes I offered (directives that are in their vehicle code handbook), and directed me to a different clerk. The 'new' clerk had me fill out one additional document (non-op statement for the years it was in storage), then finalized the registration process and handed me the new registration and my new black retro plates ... 1964 911

Posted by: lonewolfe Aug 14 2017, 01:16 AM

I have the original blue plate on my '72 but have no front plate which is technically illegal in California. Anyone know of anyone that can duplicaste the rear license plate?

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 14 2017, 06:49 AM

I ordered personalized plates for my car, see avatar (71 Six) and received them. I then was able to get 1 blue/yellow plate from a private supplier that matched my personalized plate from DMV. Sadly, I only received one and that will be the plate on my car. Blue and yellow is correct for our cars in CA since when new that was what you were issued.

Posted by: Gmanscott55 Aug 14 2017, 08:06 AM

I ordered mine on May 10th and called on Friday to check on status. They told me that black plates are taking 16 to 18 weeks now.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 14 2017, 12:30 PM

There a at least a couple of vendors on ebay that sell personalized plates. Technically, they're not 'legal', but the appear to look real, so I doubt they'd get notices as fakes ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Vintage-California-US-License-Plate-USA-Number-Plate-Alu-Embossed-Custom-/272729988648?var=571865645015&hash=item3f7ff95e28:g:zI8AAOSwLsBZS3mM

Posted by: 914 7T3 Aug 14 2017, 01:57 PM

Still waiting on mine, ordered on May 6th.



Also deciding on whether to switch over to a set of period correct Blue & Yellows though.

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 14 2017, 02:28 PM

All my vehicles have the new blk/gold plates. The sequential ones arrived in about 6 weeks. The personalized ones took between 10-12 weeks.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 14 2017, 02:40 PM

For the 914, I'd go for blue plates. I'd like to get a set of (non personalized) black plates for the '66 912 too ... I'll eventually run across a decent set without paying through the nose.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 14 2017, 04:08 PM

I had ordered replacement black ones, like I have now... 7T PORSH ... it showed up without the space between the T and the P. They made excuses, I "talked to managers". HA!

Ended up not accepting them and sticking to my older white plates. Got a refund 6 months later. Pfft! Damn DMV

Posted by: euro911 Aug 14 2017, 05:05 PM

Sucks on the foul-up, but cool on the refund ... I thought I had read the fee was non-refundable

Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 14 2017, 08:08 PM

Maybe when they are new designations but mine was a "replacement" for the white plates. I would have had to turn in my white ones. The black ones didn't have the space and there were yellow paint runs....unacceptable so no go I keep the whites.

I have a source that can turn a new flat white plate into a stamped blue and yellow one. Going to run mine through...just takes 6-8 weeks....so DMV screwing up actually turned to my advantage...

Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 14 2017, 08:12 PM

Posted by: euro911 Aug 14 2017, 11:05 PM

Yeah, but your name is Gary, not Robt

Posted by: Coondog Aug 15 2017, 06:49 AM

Love the personalized 914 plates and went so far as filling out the DMV paperwork on line, but when it comes time to pay California's B/S yearly fees for these plates it pisses me off plus the fact our *%#}%<> governor just doubled are DMV fees again i just can't make the purchase.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 15 2017, 09:44 AM

Sample of the work...

Posted by: euro911 Aug 15 2017, 01:48 PM

I'm only doing the personalized plates for one car. I've put three motorcycles and three cars on non-op because of Sacramento. The year-round insurance deal originally prompted me to non-op the motorcycles, but the increase on all of the vehicles is taking it's toll ... some are going to get registered in AZ, where the cost of registration and insurance is a lot lower. Also, I don't have to smog the vehicles in the county where my place is. Fuch CA's politicians


Let's see who's old enough to get this:

"Funding that train,
sure is a pain,
case in point,
you better -
watch your change ..."

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 15 2017, 03:36 PM

Hi on cocaine....

Posted by: Front yard mechanic Aug 15 2017, 08:21 PM

New Mexico new black plates

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 16 2017, 10:51 AM

Sounds like something from the 40's/50's. Remember "MTA" by the Kingston Trio.
Governor Moonbeam doesn't care the cost.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 16 2017, 11:11 AM

As far as California's insane tax grab, the people don't know what is going to hit them soon. DMV fees are going WAY up and an additional $.12 on gas taxes. Diesel prices up too, the truckers will go nuts and prices of trucked goods of course will go up.

Governor Brown was the worst leader we ever had in this state and the voters saw fit to put him BACK in office. The new gas tax scheme will not go over well once it is implemented.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 16 2017, 02:01 PM

And God forbid if Prop-13 gets overturned.

Our tax dollars pay the salaries of shyster lawyers who try to pick apart Prop-13 every single day they're at work

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 16 2017, 02:23 PM

I've been in California since 1961. Have been contemplating moving out state for a while now. Maybe that'll push me over the edge. That or the push to secede and become the "D.R. of California".

Posted by: euro911 Aug 16 2017, 03:34 PM

Been here since 1956. If Prop-13 goes away ... so will a lot of taxpayers. It will adversely affect everyone.

Homeowners will have to bite the big one, or try to sell their property (quickly), and landlords will have to hike rental rates to cover the tax increase. Good luck selling a property if the tax rates increase 3 times higher than the current rate ... who's going to buy into that?

Also, business entities will have to increase their costs, or leave the state. It's a no-win situation.

Posted by: lonewolfe Aug 16 2017, 06:59 PM

Thanks for that EBay link. I purchased a set. The guy had them made the next day and sent me pictures to confirm that's what I wanted. They look exactly like the originals in the picture he sent.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 16 2017, 07:22 PM

It would be nice if he could stamp the recesses for the month and year tags though.

Would be nice of I could get away with displaying black plates with the #s that are currently on the blue plates my '66 912 has

I wonder if the law-enforcement agencies would even question that they weren't 'real'

Posted by: campbellcj Aug 16 2017, 08:13 PM

I have new black plates on order for my 911: MZGR6MT

Does anyone happen to know the procedure for exchanging one type of personalized plate for another (keeping the same plate#)? I'd like to swap my 914R plates for black but the DMV form and web site are totally unclear on how to do that. Otherwise I 'spose I'll have to go talk to what passes for a human at the DMV office...

Posted by: euro911 Aug 16 2017, 08:19 PM

Be prepared ... the people working at the DMV are the same people who the Post Office let go

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 16 2017, 09:09 PM

You know, it seems that it is the luck of the draw sometimes at the DMV. Sometimes you get the witch, and sometimes you get an actual human.

I've had both.

Posted by: lonewolfe Aug 17 2017, 12:13 AM

It would be nice if they were there but I donMt think it will really be noticeable. I needed a front plate which has no stickers and it should be fine. I ordered a set so I have an extra or a replacement for the rear.

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 17 2017, 01:43 AM

Because you want the same plate number, just in a different color scheme (from Standard to Legacy), you'll probably have to do it in person at the DMV. I doubt the computer will let you order it, as it will say that number is already taken. If your lucky, as I have been in the past, you'll get a DMV employee that actually knows what they're doing and are efficient. I know that's rare, but they do exist. Good luck.

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 17 2017, 01:59 AM

Depends on the sharp eyes of the individual officers, and if they believe you are trying to defraud the DMV. It might give them a reason to stop you. Who needs that hassle, right?

Posted by: euro911 Aug 17 2017, 02:16 AM

I did some reading up on the matter this evening, but I'm still cornfused about a couple of things. This is what I'm taking away from the DMV's site:

1. The plates need to have the proper number sequence for the year they were issued... the sequence for 1966 would start with a 'R', 'S' or 'T'.

2. The rear plate also needs a sticker for the year it was issued. Now this one has me stumped ... an original 1966 sticker would be buried under numerous subsequent
... year stickers, or gone completely, otherwise there would be a stack of stickers an inch thick on the plate

* I see people selling reproduction yellow 1966 year stickers on ebay for about $15. ... hope they pass as legal (or at least adequate) if they're actually needed


3. The plates need to be clear in their system (no question here).


I guess I need to call the DMV (probably several times) to get the correct answer(s) to these questions. Maybe the gal (retired from the DMV) who verified the VIN for my 911 would know ... I think I'll call her first

Posted by: cmxiv 74 Aug 17 2017, 04:10 AM

I ordered twice, The second order placed for my 914 took over 3 months to arrive, so can be a lot of waiting time..But my the first order (July 16) took also long time (different reasons) plus a lot of effort because my customized letter combination was rejected by the state of Ca "plates and whatever" office, (it was accepted initial by the local DMW office). After I fought the "DENIED" conclusion for almost 2 months my plate was finally accepted. 8 days after was accepted I got them in mail, (yes in the mail) I did not have to go to DMW. I believe that was a very special situation since I stirred a lot of s.... with my complains, letters and tons of phone calls. Still..They forced my hand to pay again for letter combination reservation, after I already payed online for the initial reservation...plus for a regular sequential plate (that I never picked up since I had the old plates on the car assigned on a temporary registration ) so far now I did not received my refunds. So for unlucky guys like me DMW Ca proved to be a really big mess !
So, I guess between 2 and 3 months.

Posted by: cmxiv 74 Aug 17 2017, 04:21 AM

You have to go to DMW. Period ! Thet's no app for that or online clear instructions ! Wake up early, plant yourself at the DMW office at least 1 hour before they open, it has to be in the middle of the week. Doing so you will not waste half of your day, and you will talk to the DMW people fresh in to their work day (slight chance to talk to nicer, possible more helpful individuals) You can try reservation but to me did not make any difference, they will not respect the scheduled time.

Posted by: Coondog Aug 17 2017, 07:32 AM

Bought my 914 in Arz. and stopped by the DMV in Blythe Ca. 3 people working there, no line and they were so happy to see me. Must have been there first customer all week. In and out in 5 minutes.

I was thinking about buying a party bus and start offering DMV party registration rides from LA to Blythe. The way I see it the 4 hour trip would be about the same as going to a So Cal DMV plus you will have a better time on the way there....

Posted by: lonewolfe Aug 17 2017, 08:33 AM

Probably a good DMV to take your kid hit their first drivers license test.

Posted by: euro911 Aug 17 2017, 02:34 PM

Posted by: campbellcj Aug 17 2017, 06:41 PM

I have been going to Thousand Oaks or Simi Valley and with an appt have been in and out in 10 mins. Forget about Santa Monica or anything in LA in my experience. Culver City is not too bad

Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 17 2017, 11:17 PM

The cops do this on their own cars...

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 18 2017, 02:04 AM

The skinny here is this: What you are referring to are YoM (Year of Manufacture) plates. They operate under different rules than the new "Legacy" plates. I don't believe the numbering sequence for a 1966 Car (and the 1960's Gold on Black plate) have to be in close proximity. I believe any 1960's gold on black plate will work on your '66, as long as the number is clear at DMV. It does require a (for your car) 1966 sticker which coincides with the "year of manufacture" for your car. You can find someone on ebay, thesamba, and others that sell nos stickers. DMV will then give you two tabs to attach to you plate for the current month and year sticker. The reason for the different rules is that the new "legacy plates" have reflectorized paint and the numbering sequence is completely different from the '60's plates. And the "Legacy" plates can be used on any vehicle. How do I know? I've done it on two of my old cars, '57 Speedster replica and a '62 Bug Convertible. Or, you can just get a personalized Legacy plate for your '66, and avoid all the hassles of a YOM plate.

Posted by: kgruen2 Aug 18 2017, 11:13 AM

Yup. Some do. Most don't really care unless there is an obvious attempt to defraud (like coloring your sticker to match the current year color, I've seen this). But then there are always a few weenies who enforce every letter of the law. I've worked with both types.