Printable Version of Topic

Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 20 2016, 05:07 PM

Pictures of 914s running 7 inch fuchs, plus rolled arches preferably, at both ends...

If you'd be so kind, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=let+the+dog+see+the+rabbit

Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 20 2016, 05:44 PM

double post

Posted by: DBCooper Jan 20 2016, 06:03 PM

Mine, 16x7's front and rear. Front is untouched, rear is rolled and pulled, but 215x50 tires, so a bit wider than normal.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jan 20 2016, 06:15 PM

And they look great by the way.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 20 2016, 06:31 PM

These are also 16x7's with the rears rolled and 205 55 16.




Attached image(s)

Posted by: era vulgaris Jan 20 2016, 06:36 PM

15x7 on all four corners. Front fenders are stock, rears are pulled a bit.


Attached image(s)

Posted by: boxstr Jan 20 2016, 09:07 PM

Here are a couple of my early 914s. The yellow one is a 1975 with 7x16 front and rear, and the black one is a 914-6 conversion, that eventually was transformed into blackula, the last pic.
Craig at CAMP


Attached thumbnail(s)


Attached image(s)

Posted by: bradtho Jan 20 2016, 10:00 PM

15x7 w/ 205/50 (could be 55, can't remember and out of town right now) all around. Like everyone else, stock front fenders, had to pull the rears, but Mark at Eurotech Bodywerkes did such a great job it's hard to tell. Rear driver side is super tight, but no rubbing after a year and a half. Front struts have raised spindles.

PM me if there's some specific angle you're after. I took a full set after I got my car painted.

Posted by: brant Jan 20 2016, 11:20 PM

225/50/15 on 7's

I've got 1 inch spacers on the rear but modified fenders


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 21 2016, 03:56 AM

Loving all of these... Keep 'em coming!

Has anyone done 7s front, and 8s rear, and kept the front fenders stock?

Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Jan 21 2016, 06:28 AM

16/7 with 215/45/16 tires with no fender mods.



Attached image(s)

Posted by: bradtho Jan 21 2016, 08:01 AM

Try this thread, but note that MoveQik is using 951 offset wheels, so not all 8's are equal. I think the black car in the thread has 911 8's on. Tons of pics if you search titles for "Fuchs".

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=209881

Posted by: MJHanna Jan 21 2016, 08:16 AM

225 50 15x7


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: RobW Jan 21 2016, 08:24 AM

15 x7 s


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 21 2016, 08:27 AM

Thanks for the link. That thread was going so well... until the tyres started rubbing!

Th reason I'm asking for pics and options is that I am trying (not very hard though tbh) to talk myself out of putting GT arches on my car.
I'm pretty fixed on 15x7s and 8s, so v.interested on what can be / has been done...

Yep I could do a search, but everyone loves an excuse to post pics of their own cars ;-)

Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 21 2016, 08:30 AM

Oh that looks good. Are they really 7s at both ends?
If so, is it a case of lots of spacers needed, to fill the GT arches like that?

Posted by: Mueller Jan 21 2016, 09:11 AM

that is perfect!

23mm offset wheels?

Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 21 2016, 09:57 AM

How did you do that, do the 951 wheels have the right offset to allow this?

I really should have had Scotty pull mine a bit to allow for 7" wide rears...more tire and great looks.

If there's an offset that works stock like yours it may be worth searching for a set.

Posted by: mountainroads Jan 22 2016, 11:07 PM

I’m very impressed by the different solutions folks here have employed to accommodate fatter rubber. Although GT flares look great when done right and make a definite statement, I personally prefer a more subtle look. I’m pleasantly surprised that a number of other members apparently feel the same way, as I previously thought my car was very much the outlier. Meanwhile, I flatter myself that my car is reminiscent of Piech’s 914-8

Attached is my contribution to this thread. Pulled and rolled to accommodate 205X60 R-15s. In case anyone is wondering: The car and wheels are the same in both pics. Second shot taken about a year later after the wheel caps were painted

- MR
.

Posted by: tomrev Jan 23 2016, 07:47 AM

7 by 16 , with 205/45 Dunlops. I too like the stock body'd sleeper look!


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: Krieger Jan 23 2016, 09:57 AM

How many of you guys rolled your fenders when the paint was already done? What were the results?

Posted by: RickS Jan 23 2016, 10:14 AM

Folders rolled and painted at the same time.

Posted by: bradtho Jan 23 2016, 10:36 AM

Same, fender work done when it was in for paint.

Posted by: mountainroads Jan 23 2016, 03:41 PM

Same here: Done by PO during repaint. I debated returning to stock during current resto, but decided I liked having the bigger meats.

Posted by: era vulgaris Jan 23 2016, 05:13 PM

Fender rolling/pulling on my car was done by PO. The majority of my car appears to be original paint except for the rear quarters, which have been resprayed. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's because the paint cracked when the fenders were pulled. Prob best to do it during paint as others have done.

Posted by: jmill Jan 23 2016, 10:32 PM

My neighbor did that with his 914/6. He had factory flares welded onto the rear and kept the front fenders stock. That's when I first fell in love with the 914. It looked great to me at the time (mid 70's). I'd have to see it again to find out if I still cared for the look. That time period wasn't know for great styling.

Posted by: HaraldD Jan 24 2016, 01:39 AM

Hello,

there are 7" at the front and 8" at the rear. The wheels are from 944 Turbo with an offset 23,3 mm at front and rear. Part Number begins with 951...
The fenders in the back are rolled a litttle bit. It was made at the 70th, because there are 7" 911R mountet, with a spacer 27mm (Offset 49mm / wheels are around the car with spacers in the front and rear - and i still have the wheels... )


Harald

Posted by: Travis Neff Jan 24 2016, 08:25 PM

Trying to make 16x7 911 offset (23.3) fit. Getting close, I will need to cut the rear fender support brace and push out the lower back part of the quarter and I will be a lot closer.

I want rear ride height to be fender lip right at the top wheel lip, if I can.

This is 20+ year old paint, I heated the panel when I started. Luckily no stars this time around, but I do have a little fender wave that needs to be fixed.


Attached image(s)

Posted by: bigkensteele Jan 24 2016, 09:15 PM

Probably my favorite 914 on the planet!

Posted by: ndfrigi Jan 24 2016, 09:40 PM

Yes I like how it really looks, clean and simple! Is it 16 or 15 wheels?

Posted by: porschetub Jan 25 2016, 01:13 AM

Not trying to head off track here too far James ,did you put up a pic of the car you got out of the US,don't remember seeing it?

Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 25 2016, 04:25 AM

Thanks for the interest
Here is the car when I collected it from Portsmouth docks 2 weeks ago. It's on 6x15s, so is a red herring now in this thread!




The car is running a 3.0 on Webers, with beefed up suspension and brakes to compliment that power.
And with that spec it really wants more rubber on the road than the 6x15s it currently wears.

I have a pair of 7x15 fuchs and 8x15 minilites wanting to go play, and I do love the GT arches look, but the car seems such a pretty sleeper in narrow form...

...So I posted this thread to see what options there are for more rubber without 'going wide', before I make the jump to start cutting and welding

Posted by: mr914 Jan 25 2016, 03:47 PM

15x7 all around



Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: porschetub Jan 25 2016, 04:17 PM

Nice car James thanks for the pic

My sevens on the rear,205/55/16;



This is the ride height I was after but was able to go lower without touching,now have sevens on the front but might space them as much as possible without fitting longer wheel bolts.
I'am running no rear shims as there were none when I got the car,could see no sign they were ever there or the op took them out

Posted by: jmill Jan 25 2016, 06:03 PM

Also my favorite!

Is that Zambezi or Conda? Please tell me it's Zambezi.

Posted by: porschetub Jan 25 2016, 07:17 PM

VERY nice car,are those wheels done RSR style as in Harvey Weldman ,IMO this treatment makes the lips a little wider,got me thinking I may copy the look.

Posted by: malaga_red75 Jan 25 2016, 07:34 PM

16x7 with rolled rear fenders.

Posted by: kafermeister Jan 25 2016, 08:24 PM

I will say this is an awesome thread. I have been planning a set of 16x7 Fuchs for my 914 for a long time. All of the pics just make me smile. I first fell in love with this look when I saw a set on the orange slab-sided 914 test mule that Renegade Hybrids had for a while. I never saw the car in person but the pictures left an impression on me. Naturally, I can't seem to find a pics at the moment.

As a point of clarification, I believe the 944 16x7 Fuchs and the 911 16x7 Fuchs have the same offset. There is some model specific machine work which accounts for the difference in factory part numbers.

http://members.rennlist.com/911pcars/WheelWts.html


Love the pics. My goal is to end up with something that resembles BitgKat83's car. That is what I look at when I need inspiration. Wish I had a whole book of pics of that car.

Posted by: bradtho Jan 25 2016, 08:28 PM

this car looks great! why have I never seen pics of it before? maybe I need to spend more time reading our site!

Posted by: bigkensteele Jan 25 2016, 09:56 PM

Harald's car is Conda green and quite special if you take a look at it's history:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=93115&view=findpost&p=1139370

Very, very cool, and Harald is a really nice guy.

Posted by: maddin Jan 26 2016, 02:05 AM

Great topic! I now know what I want..16x7 it is! :-D

Posted by: Mueller Jan 26 2016, 10:30 AM

I know not Fuchs....

16x7 with 205/50-16s

53mm offset and 20mm to 25mm spacers (will have to confirm for sure) with would give an effective offset of 33mm to 28mm offset which is still 5mm more inboard than the Fuchs with a 23mm offset.

Previous owner installed them, the rear fenders look stock but I think the rear trailing edge might have been tweaked a little, I'd like to compare with a bone stock car one of these days.

Posted by: Mueller Jan 26 2016, 10:31 AM

For the Fuchs, I know a few members have actually modified the rear trailing arm to move the hub inboard 15mm or so.

Posted by: brant Jan 26 2016, 10:51 AM

here is a picture of how much pulling, cutting, and welding it took to fit 15x8's under the rear:

(test wheel was a 5.5 x 14)


Attached image(s)

Posted by: Alapone Jan 26 2016, 11:25 AM

I have 16x7 rear and 16x6 up front? I went with 205/40/16 all around has anyone else done this? The lowest profile in this thread is 45 I think.

I am trying to find out what is the highest profile I can go to without anything more than a gentle rolling for the fenders.

Posted by: malaga_red75 Jan 26 2016, 05:12 PM

I haven't posted in a while, and mostly lurk now. But I have a build and paint thread on here somewhere...

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Jan 26 2016, 09:27 PM

Posted by: 914Timo Jan 27 2016, 12:52 PM

7x15 911R Fuchs and 205/55 tires.



7x16 Fuchs with 205/50 front and 205/55 rear. Rear trailing arms 20mm narrowed.

Posted by: 3d914 Jan 27 2016, 01:12 PM

I love this color! Sooo unique. Enjoy!

(Weird - quoted images show up in preview, but not in post!)

Posted by: Alapone Jan 27 2016, 03:13 PM

how much more are 16x7 worth than 16x6?

Posted by: Mueller Jan 27 2016, 04:41 PM

I thought the 16x6 are worth more...the easily fit a 914 narrow body and it "the" Fuch to use when making a set of 3 piece modular rims using Fuch centers.

Posted by: 914_3.0 Jan 27 2016, 06:23 PM

15x7 front, 15x8 rear w/1" spacers

Posted by: puffinator Jun 5 2016, 08:28 AM

15x7 Fuchs with 195/65 Dunlop SP 5000

Posted by: 23e Heure Jun 10 2016, 11:31 AM

Thanks for reviving the thread, that's one great looking car.



Now... who can show me cars running 15x6 on the front with 15x7 on the rear?

Posted by: JRust Jun 10 2016, 01:19 PM

My old v8 car. Ran 951 fuchs on it 7x16 up front & 8x16 in back. 225,40,16's in back. This is with the rear fenders pulled & rolled. I had run 911 7x16's on all 4 corners before this with only the rear fenders lips rolled. Ran 214/45/16's on those with no problems.


Attached image(s)

Posted by: DBCooper Jun 10 2016, 01:42 PM

Just for some perspective most of these cars, including mine, had the rear fenders "pulled." That's not always simple. Pulling mine cracked the paint, making me realize too late (DOHHH!!) that I should have heated it first with a hair drier to soften it.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 10 2016, 02:08 PM

7 x 17 et40 CIP 1 has em $99 each on special slight finish blemished..
205/45
205/55


Attached image(s)

Posted by: daytona Jun 10 2016, 02:53 PM

Hi all,
I love and appreciate this thread. I have a bone stock 74' 914 that I have been thinking about upgrading? to the 5 lug fuchs, and have been wondering how big I can go without modifying the rear fenders, or at least with minimal modification.
I have two questions that may add an additional dimension to this thread:
1.what hardware did you use for the 5 lugs (what year front suspension, and rear hub solution) ?
2. How do you feel that this upgrade changed/improved the handling of the 914?

Thanks for all the pics and info on this thread so far. I now want to do this more than ever.
Bill.

Posted by: Mueller Jun 10 2016, 03:12 PM

Handling should be exactly the same between 4 lug and 5 lug if same size tires/rims.

Max size varies car to car, side to side. Did you read all the replies?
Seems to be enough info to get you started using your car as a reference with what you have already. I suggest learn how offset works if not familiar with it.

Posted by: bradtho Jun 10 2016, 05:39 PM

that's right, ignoring the changes from the rubber you won't be able to tell a difference. imo, there's only 1 reason to do the switch and that's the look. It's all about what wheels you like.

make sure you can find tires you like for whatever wheels you like. 15 & 16" tires are getting harder to find.

Posted by: JRust Jun 10 2016, 05:49 PM

Not entirely true. Besides the large amount of wheels you have access to in the 5x130. You get a lot of options for brake upgrades going 5-lug as well. 16" tires have plenty of options too. Tires are more limited in the 15" size

Posted by: carr914 Jun 10 2016, 06:04 PM

Tomorrow!

Posted by: carr914 Jun 11 2016, 05:19 PM

Sorry, I thought you meant 16x6 and 16x7

Posted by: daytona Jun 12 2016, 02:25 PM

I know that changing from 4 to 5 lugs will not affect the handling of the car. But I was under the impression that changing to the 5 lug set up was mostly to be able to use wider wheel and tire combinations. I would expect that the larger rubber patch touching the road from a much stickier tire would add grip. No?
How about the additional weight of 16" wheels and tires? This doesn't affect the handling either?

Posted by: lonewolfe Jun 15 2016, 02:19 PM

What size tires are you running?

Posted by: r_towle Jun 15 2016, 02:21 PM

Wheel diameter would not effect the width.

205 50/15 is as wide as you can get without modifying the fenders in the rear...

It's not a hug modification, you can bend the fender....

Posted by: Racer Jun 15 2016, 02:46 PM

And a sticky "R" comp 205 today would be like a race tire from when these cars were built. Considering 155-165 width tires were spec'd when new... 185s a popular upgrade... a 205 is already 30% larger!

Posted by: 87m491 Jul 1 2016, 02:14 PM

[/quote]
Wheel diameter would not effect the width.

205 50/15 is as wide as you can get without modifying the fenders in the rear...

It's not a hug modification, you can bend the fender....
[/quote]

To a degree, a 205 45 17 has the same cross section as a 205 70 15, but it has a much bigger contact patch....

Posted by: Mueller Jul 1 2016, 02:56 PM

You can get 4 lug rims in the same width as any 5 lug rim, just harder to find but they are out there...and they'll cost you unless lucky or not too picky.

5 lug just makes things easier, but you still pay one way or another.

Lighter the better, 4 or 5 lug.

Will you notice the extra weight? Hard to tell, some people are more in tune with their vehicles than others.

Plenty of stockish powered and modified 914's running around with super heavy combos* yet the cars handle fine. Could they handle better? Hard to tell, someone could have the worlds lightest 15" wheel combo yet is still running 30+ year old rubber bushings which are not optimal. yet they feel the car handles well.

(*those 17" Revolution rims that are popular are heavy)

I doubt you can find a set of rims and tires that so adversely affect the handling that it makes the car dangerous or no longer fun to drive.