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Posted by: r_towle Feb 10 2016, 11:40 PM

Does anyone have any experience with an Alfa Romeo alfasud?
Horizontal 4 banger, water cooled.....looks nice.

The transmission is what interested me.
Built with inboard disk brakes mounted on the transaxle...

It's one of the wheeler dealer shows on tonight.
I really like the brake setup, looks a lot like ours with a mechanical ebrake on the calipers too.

Posted by: CatDaddy60 Feb 11 2016, 04:27 AM

There is a similar setup on the Alfetta and Alfetta Sedans I'm not sure if the newer Alfasuds were the same brakes but the Alfettas had some decent brakes.

Posted by: CatDaddy60 Feb 11 2016, 04:34 AM

After googling a photo of the transaxle that looks almost identical to the Alfetta the difference being they ran a shaft that turned at engine speed from the front of the car to the trans-axle in the back ala 924/944.

Posted by: veekry9 Feb 11 2016, 08:02 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HhHd2WkOU


Been a big fan of Ital Design since the '60s.
Put it all together,easier that way.Sure,the engine and TX layout was new for '72.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgetto_Giugiaro
http://www.italdesign.it/en/areas/automotive/
http://www.alfagtv6.com/callaway.htm
https://www.google.ca/search?q=alfa+romeo+v6&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=641&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-wt6q7O_KAhUDdR4KHXYlDbEQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=alfa+romeo+v6+24v
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gearbox-transaxle-differential-propshaft/
https://www.google.ca/search?q=alfa+romeo+alfetta+gtv+suspension&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=641&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGt_295e_KAhXMHx4KHcGvACEQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1.5#tbm=isch&q=alfa+romeo+alfetta+gtv+suspension+transaxle
https://www.google.ca/search?q=de+dion+suspension&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=641&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2taea6O_KAhUI1B4KHboIAtIQ_AUIBigB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSa9Nwl99k8
2.5Lna vs 5L and VolvoTurbos.


http://www.ooyyo.com/united+states/used-alfa+romeo-gtv-for-sale/c=CDA31D7114D3854F111BF66FBA61355BEFA01D7FA2D489A21608F675BD4535/
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more:
Ingegnere Giuseppe Busso`s V6 60*.
A good look at a build.Like the Renault and diesel engines,wet cylinders.
A flying weight 6 pin crank.
Hemi two or four valve,twincam.
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/engine-repair-diagnostics-rebuilding/47336-rebuilding-3-litre-america-engine-my-84-gtv6-2.html

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Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 11 2016, 08:41 AM

Did someone watch Wheeler Dealers the other night?

They did an Alfasud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7fGjmGYArc

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 09:04 AM

I had one and I rebuilt it from ground up.
The brakes on the transmission help the stability a lot.
I had an AlfaSud Sprint with brakes on the gearbox and my friend had a newer model that used the Alfa 33 brakes assembly in the traditional place, on the wheels. Mine handled a lot better.
The only bad part is that it eats more axles due to braking power being transmitted through then.
BTW, the AlfaSud was concepted by a high executive that left Porsche and joined Alfa. I could see a lot if similarities.

Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 11 2016, 09:15 AM

...and they eventually used that base motor to make a 1.7 16v version that made what 130hp? That would have been a blast in a 914.

Posted by: veekry9 Feb 11 2016, 10:17 AM

Alfetta transaxle and de Dion rear axle.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Feb 11 2016, 04:27 PM

That is one funky suspension!!

Not a big fan of any DeDion setup, personally. Looks like they could have gone to a nice full-independent setup with just a little more work. Less unsprung weight, better compliance over bumps...

--DD

Posted by: r_towle Feb 11 2016, 05:11 PM

Yes, not a fan of the suspension.
Wonder what could be done with that tranny?
How much power could it handle?

Posted by: steuspeed Feb 11 2016, 05:28 PM

The whole package may be too long. Rear mounting point is high. Brake pads are a pain to change. My stock Alfetta brakes are great however. Typical 1st and 2nd gear sycros are usually gone.

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 05:56 PM

The suspension on those cars is a dream. I don't know what you're complaining about.
Regarding the gearbox, its a ZF, I don't know how much it can handle but in 3 years I had the car, I went through 3 gearbox rebuilds.
The 2nd gear synchro is some kind of cheese.
I may have a box still laying around across the pond in my dads storage if you must have one.
If you want, I have the repair manual. There might be some good info in there.

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 06:30 PM

4 speeds

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 06:31 PM

5 speeds

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 06:35 PM

Brakes 1

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 06:36 PM

Brakes 2

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 06:37 PM

Brakes 3

Posted by: Valy Feb 11 2016, 06:43 PM

And this

Posted by: veekry9 Feb 14 2016, 01:38 PM

Alfa Romeo Flat-4,ZF-transaxle-5 spd.

An attribute of the de Dion is the stability of the toe settings and the roll centers.
The design has been around a long time.
Might be the last time a de Dion won LeMan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_DB3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_DBR1


W2 chassis,honeycomb,de Dion.1978.


Lotus Eleven


W2 chassis,honeycomb,de Dion.1978.
http://jalopnik.com/turn-this-brand-new-vector-w2-chassis-into-the-supercar-1677726756

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