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Posted by: Spoke Feb 22 2016, 10:47 PM

This is a group buy for front bucket LED boards. Please respond here if interested. I will PM you with payment details.

Available in two configurations:

1) US Version: 69 AMBER LEDs: $125/pair
2) Euro Version - w/Blanking: 21 WHITE LEDs in clear of lens; 48 AMBER LEDs: Price: $145/pair

Shipping:
CONUS: $10
Canada: $25
Outside CONUS: Determined at purchase.

CONUS payment examples:
US Version: $125 + $10 = $135
Euro Version - w/Blanking: $145 + $10 = $155

Each pair includes:
o 2 PCBs
o US Version: 69 AMBER LEDs.
o Euro Version: 21 WHITE LEDS (Running lights) and 48 AMBER LEDs (Turnsignal).

Euro Version with blanking will turn off WHITE LEDs when turnsignal is engaged.

Pigtail with 1157 base to plug directly into existing bulb socket.

4 clips for each pair to mount the boards to existing front bucket housing for plug-n-play installation.

4 screws for clips + 1 extra

1 piggyback spade connector if existing turnsignal flasher is replaced by EP36 LED flasher from your FLAPS.

1 year guarantee

Electrical Characteristics US version:
Turnsignal: 0.39A @ 14V (5 Watt) each PCB
Running light: 0.07A @ 14V (1 Watt) each PCB

Example front LED board shown with only tools needed: large Philips screwdriver for lens screws and smaller Philips screwdriver for PCB mounting screw.



Installation of the front turnsignal bucket LED boards.

There are 2 clips for each board. The small one goes in front the the long one on the rear.



Screw in the rear clip.



The small front clip mounts on the top of the board. These will be screwed in when I build the board. The bottom of the board will contact the bucket base to keep the board straight.



Here's the board ready for installation with the bulb base connected.



When installing the board, make sure the pigtail does not interfere with the rear clip.



Gently slide the board in. There are slots on either side of the board to clear the guides on the sides of the bucket.



Ready for the lens. The lens will hold the board in place. If you need to reposition the board, do not grab the LEDs as they will move. Use a paper clip or similar wire to pull the board out.

Posted by: bahnzai Feb 23 2016, 05:43 AM

Hi Jerry,
I will take a set of the US version -all Amber
Thanks,
Danny Thomas

Posted by: 914forme Feb 23 2016, 06:21 AM

Front Euro w/Blanking

Thank you very much for making these, oh and my 914 thanks you too.

Posted by: Olympic 1.7 Feb 23 2016, 07:14 AM

Put me down for 1 set. US version - all amber.


Thanks

Posted by: Coondog Feb 23 2016, 08:03 AM

Euro set with blanking please.......thank you

Posted by: 76-914 Feb 23 2016, 09:27 AM

I'm in for a pr of the Euro's.

Posted by: Rotary'14 Feb 23 2016, 10:47 AM

Hi I want a pair of the fronts Euro style,,, also interested in the Euro style rears if you want to sell a whole set.

I'll be waiting for your PM with the details.

-Robert

Posted by: Shadowfax Feb 23 2016, 11:59 AM

I'm in for an amber U.S. set. Thanks, Jerry!

Posted by: BillC Feb 23 2016, 01:39 PM

I'd like a US (amber-only) set. Thanks!

Posted by: bahnzai Feb 23 2016, 07:13 PM

Paypal sent.
US- all amber set
Thanks!!

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Feb 26 2016, 05:01 PM

I want US pair

Posted by: flmont Feb 26 2016, 06:37 PM

I want 1 set Euro style Pls

Posted by: dangerranger01 Feb 27 2016, 05:28 PM

Count me in for the Euro Version - w/Blanking: $145 + $10 = $155

Posted by: bandjoey Mar 2 2016, 08:46 PM

US set only. I guess this is plug and play...no relay or other electrical change? I'm electrical illeeterette.

How do you compare the brightness to just the bulb? Pictures online anywhere?

Also while I'm in there...can you give me an LED side marker bulb number that will also plug and play the side markers??


Thanks Bill

Posted by: Spoke Mar 3 2016, 03:28 PM

Yes, the boards are plug and play. However, there is a chance that your hazard flasher may have difficulty either flashing or flashing the dash indicators properly. Most folks have rewired the dash indicators (this can be done by pulling the tach out and this mostly has worked correctly. If the flasher needs replacing, there are 2 types readily available at your FLAPS. The EP26 and EP36 flashers are compatible with the 914 and LEDs but still may need to rewire the ground wires on the dash indicators.

Some videos of the front LEDs. This is the Euro version.

First the turnsignals; then just the running light. For the turnsignal, the US lens is on. For the running light, the lens is removed.

I wanted to observe the angle of incidence on the LEDs. These LEDs have 30 degree 1/2 power angle. So for the turnsignals and running lights, I varied the angle of viewing from about +/- 45 degrees from the front of the car. I was about 30 feet away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEIcKTeHoa0


Now the running light with the US lens off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xe09_u_dSg


Below are graphs showing the relative light intensity between a US LED board and the standard 1157 bulb. The first graph is the difference between the turnsignals and the second between the running lights.

Each graph shows the intensity as one moved from in front of the car (0 degrees) to the side of the car.

For turnsignals, the bulb puts out about 12 LUX and the LED about 82 LUX or greater than 6x brighter. For running lights, the bulb puts out less than 2 LUX and the LED board over 12 LUX, again more the 6x brighter. Notice that the LED running light is as bright as the bulb on turnsignals (12 LUX).

Posted by: Rotary'14 Mar 3 2016, 10:59 PM

A really well packed package was waiting for me when I got home today! I can't wait to install my set.

-Robert

Posted by: bandjoey Mar 4 2016, 08:26 AM

I'll take a us set.

Posted by: rgolia Mar 4 2016, 01:24 PM

I have a question for the brain trust here. I have installed front and back and they work great. On the front I have the euro version and I use Italian lenses which are clear. With the lights off you can see the circuit board, which is green (see photo). My question is can this be coated in a silver or black paint like material without messing up the function?

Posted by: Spoke Mar 4 2016, 03:44 PM

Hey Ralph,

Glad to hear the install went smoothly

Kind of a bummer as I had a choice to any color of the PCB as desired. I chose to stay with green although I was thinking of PCB's with black as the color.

You can paint the boards as you see fit as long as the paint is not electrically conductive. Pretty much all paints are not electrically conductive but please check the ingredients. If I were to paint the board I would do it with a brush. You don't have to have a beautiful finish to get the effect you want.

Being that the boards may be subjected to moisture, it would be best to use an acrylic or enamel paint applied with a brush. Model type paint available in the small jars should be OK.

I wouldn't consider painting the boards would void the 1 year warrantee. I want you to be satisfied with the boards.

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Jerry

Posted by: bandjoey Mar 4 2016, 06:09 PM

Maybe..he can make up a black board for you, and someone else will buy your boards...a swap out if you will??

Posted by: Spoke Mar 5 2016, 01:20 PM

Yes, we can work this out. I just ordered some front turnsignal boards in black. Should have them in about 2 weeks.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 5 2016, 09:33 PM

Had a question about blanking for the Euro version. This function emulates modern cars with running lights where the running light turns off when the turnsignal is active to provide better contrast for the blinking turnsignal.

Here's a video of the front Euro board.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRBFT2LwVhc

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Mar 6 2016, 10:42 AM

......just paid for my "US" order. Thanks!

Posted by: rgolia Mar 7 2016, 12:46 PM

I think black would look good. Remember I have the euro version with the yellow dimly lit with the running light on and with the blanking. They look outstanding when on.

Spoke...let me know if you think we can pull this off. I am willing to eat a few bucks to pull this off.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 8 2016, 10:35 PM

Ralph, not a problem. Here's what we can do. Boards are expected this week. My assembly guy will get them next week. Probably take a week for assembly and another week to finish assembly.

You pay shipping for the black boards and I'll send them to you. Swap the old for the new boards and ship the old ones to me. Don't remove the old ones until you get the black ones. This way you only have to open up the buckets once for the swap.

Posted by: rgolia Mar 9 2016, 10:44 AM

Jerry...you are the man.....perhaps we could do the swap at Hersey too.

Posted by: bandjoey Mar 13 2016, 12:07 AM

Can you tell us about when these will be ready? Color of the backboard doesn't matter for me. Thanks

Posted by: Spoke Mar 14 2016, 07:28 PM

We're shipping the front LED boards now. We build them as folks order them. It's been taking about 3 weeks from payment to shipment.

Posted by: 76-914 Mar 14 2016, 07:47 PM

Good news!

Posted by: bandjoey Mar 14 2016, 11:21 PM

I haven't been billed yet. Where do I send money to?

Posted by: 76-914 Mar 15 2016, 07:21 AM

Bill, send your $$ first then wait ~3 weeks.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 15 2016, 08:00 AM

PM sent. Sorry I missed your request.

About the side marker, assuming you mean the front marker. I don't have a solution for that bulb. Only doing the front/rear turnsignals and brakes.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 20 2016, 08:45 PM

Just got the black boards from the fab. They look pretty cool. We'll build a couple of Euro boards with these.

Posted by: rgolia Mar 21 2016, 09:24 AM

Are you making a replacement set in black for me?

Posted by: drem914 Mar 21 2016, 10:31 AM

So if we want a set of black with the euro set up do we need to specify black or green for the boards at time of order?

When will you be doing sets for the rear break lights?

Posted by: Spoke Mar 21 2016, 11:12 AM

Yeah, yours will be the first set assembled. Should see them in about 2 weeks.

Posted by: 76-914 Mar 21 2016, 09:54 PM

Got my Euro Style today. Very nice. Thx Jerry

Posted by: Spoke Mar 22 2016, 10:42 AM

Yes. We'll make Euro boards with the black PCBs if requested. US boards will continue in green.



We're just finishing up this run of rear PCBs. I think we have a single set of brake PCBs left. Both of my assemblers have kid stuff ramping up and likely we'll take a break for a while then get back to the rear PCBs again later in the year.

Posted by: Spoke Apr 17 2016, 05:59 PM

The black boards came out nice. Wasn't sure how they would clean up and they look great.



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Posted by: whitetwinturbo Apr 18 2016, 10:17 AM

Posted by: rgolia Apr 18 2016, 10:22 AM

Those do look good...are they mine?

Posted by: jbachert Apr 21 2016, 07:25 PM

Spoke - I totally missed this. Did I miss the boat on this one or do you have any sets left? I bought the rears and was waiting for the fronts and missed the thread.

Let me know,
John

Posted by: Spoke Apr 21 2016, 07:46 PM

John,

Right on time. I have several sets of all amber and white/amber ready to go. Bring the 914 by and we can drop a set right in.

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Apr 22 2016, 10:44 AM

.......my fronts are great. Any rears left?

Posted by: Spoke Apr 22 2016, 11:19 AM

Good to hear about the fronts. Yes, I have a set of brakes and red turnsignals ready to ship. Will have more boards in about week.

Posted by: jbachert Apr 22 2016, 07:31 PM

Put a set of the all amber aside for me. I'll PM you tomorrow to work out when we can meet up.

Thanks,
John

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 22 2016, 07:41 PM

I'll take a set of the Euro's with the black board if possible ...

Posted by: lonewolfe Apr 22 2016, 07:48 PM

I'd like a set of the Euro front signals as well. How much are the Euro rear light assemblies and are they available still?

Posted by: Spoke Apr 22 2016, 08:04 PM

All Front and Rear boards are available:

Brake LED boards: $90/pair
Rear Red or Amber turnsignals boards: $100/pair
Front Amber Turnsignals: $125/pair
Front White + Amber (Euro) boards in black or green: $145/pair

Posted by: rgolia Apr 28 2016, 09:29 AM

Thank you Spoke for the black front boards....they look great with the Italian lenses.

Posted by: eric9144 Apr 28 2016, 11:45 AM

Spoke--question on the Euro fronts--is the amber section dim lit when in an "idle" state? From the picture above it looks like they are--I thought the amber section was only lit when the signals were engaged...

Considering picking up a set of Euro fronts "just in case" I ever want to go that route...
Still my US version set, amazing upgrade

Posted by: Spoke Apr 29 2016, 06:16 AM

The ambers are on dim on Ralph's car. He requested that option. I haven't socialized that option with the group to keep things simple for my assembly guy. It can be done on the Euro versions.

Posted by: Spoke Apr 30 2016, 10:09 PM

I have the one set of Euro boards from Ralph's car that I will sell at a discount since they are used. They will still be warranted for 1 year as with new boards. If you didn't know they were used it would be hard to tell.

Price for this one set is $120. Normal price is $145. These have white LEDs which turn off when turnsignals are active. They also have the amber LEDs on dim when the white LEDs are on.

Posted by: abes914 May 3 2016, 01:09 AM

spoke, i'll take ralphs slightly used euro turn signal and a rear euro lights. i already have your led brake lights installed.

thanks,
abe

Posted by: JimmyG May 17 2016, 07:27 AM

I would like a front euro set in green if possible.
Thanks
Jimmy

Posted by: Spoke Jun 22 2016, 12:13 PM

I finally have a website to make the selection and payment of LEDs a bit smoother. Please feel free to visit and let me know how it is.

The site also has installation instructions for all the LED boards.

Since I managed to cannibalize my own sockets by introducing black colored boards, I have several 911 and 914 front turnsignal boards with green PCBs listed in a bargain page.

http://www.spokeworksled.com/

Posted by: Spoke Jul 13 2016, 10:45 PM

I never planned to make a front sidemarker LED board but reconsidered making one after I started making rear sidemarkers for the 911.

Below are a couple of 911 rear sidemarker boards and a plastic mock up of a 914 front sidemarker board.

I tried to use the 911 sidemarker on the 914 but it was a bit too large. The 911 board is 1.25 inch whereas the 914 sidemarker board will be 1.19 inch; just 0.06 inch smaller.



Here's the mock up board in the 914 sidemarker fixture. With 12 LEDs, these sidemarkers are very bright. The 911 sidemarker is about 7x brighter than the standard bulb.

Hope to have first PCBs by next week.

Posted by: Spoke Jul 22 2016, 10:57 PM

I now have front sidemarker boards in stock. These are $30 for a pair.

I measured light intensity of the standard bulb and this board. The standard bulb at 4 feet put out 0.8 LUX directly opposite of the bulb and 0.5 LUX at a 45 degree angle.

The LED board at 4 feet straight on was measured at 3.8 LUX and 2.5 LUX at 45 degree angle. In general this board is more than 4x brighter than the standard bulb as measured on my car.

You can find these boards at:

http://www.spokeworksled.com


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 23 2016, 07:03 AM

Jerry - Excellent news. I already placed an order for a set. Thanks for taking care of us and making these terrific lights for our cars.

They look much nicer and more importantly, are better for the electrical system as they draw so much less voltage and they increase safety on the road as our cars are more visible to those damn distracted drivers with their noses in the phones while they drive.

Posted by: siverson Nov 28 2017, 01:01 AM

i just got around to installing these... i have a weird ground problem or something (i dont think it is a problem with the led kit). without the reverse bulb on one side the lights on that side are quite dim. see video. any tips?

https://youtu.be/fCZW1SShpAM

thanks,
steve

Posted by: Spoke Nov 28 2017, 05:31 AM

That is weird. The reverse light is independent of the brakes/running/turnsignal lights. The only thing they share is ground.

It might be good to examine the 5 wires connecting to the fixture. A couple of wires might need swapped. It looks like the reverse bulb may be providing ground to the other lights.