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Posted by: gabeurgelles Mar 10 2016, 01:10 PM
Thoughts on these new rims form Magnus Walker and Fifteen52? 
Posted by: falcor75 Mar 10 2016, 01:12 PM
Thoughts on these new rims form Magnus Walker and Fifteen52?
Mneeeh....never liked the four spoke design....
Posted by: twistedstang Mar 10 2016, 01:14 PM
I like that he tried to keep the look somewhat like the original 2 liter wheel. I'm holding back judgment for the completed project. They may look nice in the brushed gold/black combo
Posted by: SirAndy Mar 10 2016, 01:16 PM
I'd like to see a complete wheel, preferably mounted on a 914 ...
Posted by: Tom_T Mar 10 2016, 01:18 PM
Probably heavier & less strong than the OE forged aluminum Fuchs 2L wheels he's trying to look like! 
Tom
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Posted by: gabeurgelles Mar 10 2016, 01:25 PM
Yeah, definitely gonna have to wait to see the finished product mounted on a 914
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 10 2016, 01:26 PM
Same thing he did to the five spoke Fuchs wheel.
Opened up the paddles...... and painted them.......gold !
Posted by: pete000 Mar 10 2016, 03:25 PM
If he is smart he will make them 6" wide.
I imagine they will be 16 or 17" dia...
Posted by: eric9144 Mar 10 2016, 03:36 PM
Looking kinda hood 
I've got to see them on a car to really know though 
Posted by: RoadGlue Mar 10 2016, 03:40 PM
Hmmm, watching.
Yeah, have to see them mounted.
Posted by: 396 Mar 10 2016, 04:37 PM
Well, since it has Magnus name associated with this wheel, I should by a set so I can stay current - just joking......ya I must be on drugs if I really did that. Only Factory Fuchs for me.
Posted by: somd914 Mar 10 2016, 04:52 PM
Will reserve final judgement until I see a completed wheel, but as is it looks too flashy and too contemporary for me...
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 10 2016, 05:12 PM
That looks unfinished to me. Very chunky and grooved. Not consistent with the other wheels they make.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 10 2016, 05:25 PM
Probably heavier & less strong than the OE forged aluminum Fuchs 2L wheels he's trying to look like!
Tom
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Factory 2.0 Fuchs:
40+ years old
No history of use or abuse by previous owners
Only available in 15x5.5 width
^None of those attributes makes me want to ditch my wheels for a set of factory 2.0 Liter Fuchs
I'll take a 1 to 1.5 pound hit to have something not strained or ready to fail, that and the added bonus of different widths and diameters is a huge bonus.
I doubt I could ever afford them so I'll stick with what I have....I'd be rocking his 5 lug version if I had the coin.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 10 2016, 06:14 PM
Makes me think that spending $300 for a set of 5 cookie cutters was a no brainer. And I'll keep my 2.0 Fuchs on my 4 lug car.
Posted by: carr914 Mar 10 2016, 06:16 PM
Pass, they look like they should be on a Ricer!
Posted by: wes Mar 10 2016, 06:59 PM
I'll pass mine are paid for!
Posted by: Mr.Nobody Mar 10 2016, 07:05 PM
Hopefully they'll have some decent lip on them. I'll never be able to afford them though, but cool project and definitely rad that he's keeping the 4 lug.
Also I have to thank him for getting a company to make a new wheel for the car. Support seems to be non existent for 4x130, unless they are repro's.
Posted by: Cracker Mar 10 2016, 07:38 PM
That could have been designed in Solidworks in an hour...or more likely less.
Tony
Posted by: ThePaintedMan Mar 10 2016, 07:46 PM
Pass, they look like they should be on a Ricer!
Even with the insets blacked out and/or painted gold 
Imho, you just can't improve on Fuchs, no matter how many holes you drill in them
Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 10 2016, 07:55 PM
Posted by: jd74914 Mar 10 2016, 08:53 PM
That could have been designed in Solidworks in an hour...or more likely less.
Tony
I wonder what the back looks like; those spokes are pretty thick and if the back isn't hollowed they're going to weigh a ton. They certainly don't look like something which has seen any FEA.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 10 2016, 09:12 PM
That could have been designed in Solidworks in an hour...or more likely less.
Tony
And?
Not sure why that really matters for something like this, looking at the original 2.0 Fuch I don't see a heck of a lot of "design" going on there, very simple layout. Sure the forging dies had a helluva lot more time into them for sure.
As to the FEA, nothing in the SAE papers I see mentioning that is a requirement and only a few companies actually advertise doing such work.
Posted by: Cracker Mar 10 2016, 09:26 PM
To me? Because I have invested hundred of hours of design and development for mundane consumer products. When I design, I make damn sure it could not be any more refined, down to the minutest of details. It doesn't appear to be conviction of MW - how much he does could be highly debated anyhow.
The wheels look like a first pass...a starting point - not a finished product. I'll look forward to seeing your car with them - they might look better on a car. Way to flashing/Ricer for me but hey - maybe a 16 year would dig them.
T
That could have been designed in Solidworks in an hour...or more likely less.
Tony
And?
Not sure why that really matters for something like this, looking at the original 2.0 Fuch I don't see a heck of a lot of "design" going on there, very simple layout. Sure the forging dies had a helluva lot more time into them for sure.
As to the FEA, nothing in the SAE papers I see mentioning that is a requirement and only a few companies actually advertise doing such work.
Posted by: audio_file Mar 10 2016, 10:37 PM
A cautionary tale:
I follow a very talented Porsche engine builder on Instagram, cool guy who always goes the extra mile on his builds- in short, someone who's opinion on automotive related quality I would trust without question. A few months back, he purchased the 1552 "outlaw" wheels for his personal 911. He was less than blown away with the build quality of the wheels, and mentioned that he was disappointed with them on his Instagram account. Within the day, Brad from 1552 and his legal team had threatened to sue unless the comments were removed.
I will never patronize a business who cannot handle criticism from someone who invested in their product, going so far as to threaten to sue over a social media post.
I expect to hear from Brads legal team shortly 
Posted by: porschetub Mar 11 2016, 01:08 AM
Looking kinda hood
I've got to see them on a car to really know though
and yuk
Posted by: Cracker Mar 11 2016, 03:48 AM
Talk about "over-reach" if that is true...
Just a thought: "Brad" may have recently graduated from one of our countries universities recently...they're indoctrinating our young folk with silencing all dissenting opinion with threats and hate speech. Geez!
T
A cautionary tale:
I follow a very talented Porsche engine builder on Instagram, cool guy who always goes the extra mile on his builds- in short, someone who's opinion on automotive related quality I would trust without question. A few months back, he purchased the 1552 "outlaw" wheels for his personal 911. He was less than blown away with the build quality of the wheels, and mentioned that he was disappointed with them on his Instagram account. Within the day, Brad from 1552 and his legal team had threatened to sue unless the comments were removed.
I will never patronize a business who cannot handle criticism from someone who invested in their product, going so far as to threaten to sue over a social media post.
I expect to hear from Brads legal team shortly
Posted by: mepstein Mar 11 2016, 07:09 AM
Funny opinion but not really true. (About the universities)
Talk about "over-reach" if that is true...
Just a thought: "Brad" may have recently graduated from one of our countries universities recently...they're indoctrinating our young folk with silencing all dissenting opinion with threats and hate speech. Geez!
T
A cautionary tale:
I follow a very talented Porsche engine builder on Instagram, cool guy who always goes the extra mile on his builds- in short, someone who's opinion on automotive related quality I would trust without question. A few months back, he purchased the 1552 "outlaw" wheels for his personal 911. He was less than blown away with the build quality of the wheels, and mentioned that he was disappointed with them on his Instagram account. Within the day, Brad from 1552 and his legal team had threatened to sue unless the comments were removed.
I will never patronize a business who cannot handle criticism from someone who invested in their product, going so far as to threaten to sue over a social media post.
I expect to hear from Brads legal team shortly
Posted by: Cracker Mar 11 2016, 08:15 AM
Sadly, it is closer to being true than funny. I have a son in college and it is scary what I am hearing him report back (and his friends). Sticking ones head in the sand doesn't make problems go away...they get worse the whole time you're hiding. Our country is in real trouble...enough politics though and back to discussing mediocre wheels.
Tony
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Funny opinion but not really true. (About the universities)
Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 11 2016, 08:17 AM
The MW wheels? Meh.
Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 11 2016, 08:32 AM
For me it's not the design as it is not that different from the original. So no real effort needed there. The only plus is the possibility of getting a wheel you can actually get tires for. Except I dislike the look of skinny sidewalls and big ricer wheels. That's where the vintage appeal stops and a whole new discussion begins.
Posted by: 76-914 Mar 11 2016, 08:46 AM
The Fuch's have a timeless design. That being said, I welcome any design (within reason) that offers a greater tire choice for the 4 bolt pattern.
Posted by: sb914 Mar 11 2016, 08:57 AM
The Fuch's have a timeless design. That being said, I welcome any design (within reason) that offers a greater tire choice for the 4 bolt pattern.
Four bolt pattern
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 11 2016, 09:15 AM
A cautionary tale:
I follow a very talented Porsche engine builder on Instagram, cool guy who always goes the extra mile on his builds- in short, someone who's opinion on automotive related quality I would trust without question. A few months back, he purchased the 1552 "outlaw" wheels for his personal 911. He was less than blown away with the build quality of the wheels, and mentioned that he was disappointed with them on his Instagram account. Within the day, Brad from 1552 and his legal team had threatened to sue unless the comments were removed.
I will never patronize a business who cannot handle criticism from someone who invested in their product, going so far as to threaten to sue over a social media post.
I expect to hear from Brads legal team shortly
Clearly you aren't worthy of buying their products.
Per their website they are a "lifestyle" complete with t-shirts, key chains and other lifestyle items as well as pictures of the owners posing with Magnus Walker
Unless we get the lifestyle we won't understand the wheel design...
Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 11 2016, 10:02 AM
Probably cost 1/2 of what I bought my car for!
Posted by: ssuperflyoldguy Mar 11 2016, 10:16 AM
That could have been designed in Solidworks in an hour...or more likely less.
Tony
And?
Not sure why that really matters for something like this, looking at the original 2.0 Fuch I don't see a heck of a lot of "design" going on there, very simple layout. Sure the forging dies had a helluva lot more time into them for sure.
As to the FEA, nothing in the SAE papers I see mentioning that is a requirement and only a few companies actually advertise doing such work.
After seeing those 4 lug 1552's and how they missed the design cues from the 4Lug Fuchs - I now stand up n salute the 4lugFuchs - I kinda liked 1552's 5 lugs, not so much now....
Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 11 2016, 10:28 AM
This is off of their website, the 3 piece "Mullett" wheel. Ugly.
Keep your 'lifestyle.'
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 11 2016, 03:51 PM
A cautionary tale:
I follow a very talented Porsche engine builder on Instagram, cool guy who always goes the extra mile on his builds- in short, someone who's opinion on automotive related quality I would trust without question. A few months back, he purchased the 1552 "outlaw" wheels for his personal 911. He was less than blown away with the build quality of the wheels, and mentioned that he was disappointed with them on his Instagram account.
They're built like any other billet wheel. I don't know what he was expecting, maybe less of a markup for Brand? People paid extra for Boyd's rims back in the day too.
Ricer... I feel the need to clarify the misuse. Rice-racer, Japanese cars built to mimic Japanese race cars. Wheels are lightweight thin spoke and often a color that stands out. NOTHING billet.
Bling would be big and chrome. Jewelery for the car.
MW makes billet wheels, commonly seen on hotrods and street rods, but colored like an 80's trend.
Given all the retro-purists on this forum, it's going to take some marketing genius to sell big budget rims.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 11 2016, 07:18 PM
Is it possible to just enlarge the cutouts on an existing wheel? i would do that...
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Posted by: steuspeed Mar 11 2016, 07:32 PM
If they were 16s matte w/ polished petals I would be interested.
Posted by: PotterPorsche Mar 11 2016, 10:19 PM
Deep dish 4 lug would be a nice option.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 11 2016, 10:29 PM
Manny: "Ok Team. What do you think will be the next trend in rims?"
Moe: "I was in Walmart the other day and all the girls clothes were fluorescent colors again this year."
Jack: "Yah, plus all the movie and TV remakes, the 80's are definitely making a comeback."
Manny: "Yah guys, I think you're right." (brief pause) "I know exactly what iconic rim we should remake!"
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 11 2016, 11:15 PM
Manny: "Ok Team. What do you think will be the next trend in rims?"
Moe: "I was in Walmart the other day and all the girls clothes were fluorescent colors again this year."
Jack: "Yah, plus all the movie and TV remakes, the 80's are definitely making a comeback."
Manny: "Yah guys, I think you're right." (brief pause) "I know exactly what iconic rim we should remake!"
Maneaters
Posted by: Mueller Mar 12 2016, 10:26 AM
Think he'd want to buy some billet hubs if someone started making them again?
Posted by: RabbitStew914 Mar 12 2016, 10:31 AM
I think if painted right... and with a nice offset, they might look good! Otherwise, as said previous, my fuch's are already paid for!
I am looking forward to see how well they look on a 914.
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 12 2016, 10:42 AM
Think he'd want to buy some billet hubs if someone started making them again?
GT flares and staying 4 bolt is likely the only reason one would buy these.
That said I've already gone 5 bolt and have real fuchs.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 12 2016, 10:48 AM
I think the first post is partially correct when they stated - make the air cooled vw crowd happy. From the comments above, I doubt it will be much of a 914 crowd pleaser.
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 12 2016, 10:58 AM
I think the first post is partially correct when they stated - make the air cooled vw crowd happy. From the comments above, I doubt it will be much of a 914 crowd pleaser.
Even then you need wider fenders for any rims wider than stock Fuchs.
Add to that you can already get Fuchs repops, plus a huge number of other rim choices relatively cheap.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 12 2016, 11:10 AM
I think the first post is partially correct when they stated - make the air cooled vw crowd happy. From the comments above, I doubt it will be much of a 914 crowd pleaser.
Even then you need wider fenders for any rims wider than stock Fuchs.
Add to that you can already get Fuchs repops, plus a huge number of other rim choices relatively cheap.
True, but there will always be people willing to spend those extra dollars to have something different.
I do think we'll see them on more VW products than on 914s.
Posted by: MLedesma Mar 12 2016, 02:08 PM
And pay they will. A lot of money!
For giggles I priced out the 5 lug rims in 16 x 7 with a 23 offset in RSR finish matte black and silver with center caps.
The total was.......
Almost $4000.
I didn't pay that much for any of my 914s.
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 12 2016, 03:11 PM
I think the first post is partially correct when they stated - make the air cooled vw crowd happy. From the comments above, I doubt it will be much of a 914 crowd pleaser.
Even then you need wider fenders for any rims wider than stock Fuchs.
Add to that you can already get Fuchs repops, plus a huge number of other rim choices relatively cheap.
True, but there will always be people willing to spend those extra dollars to have something different.
I do think we'll see them on more VW products than on 914s.
Yeh.... you're right and who am I to talk, I put 20" Foose rims on my bus.
Posted by: 914Sixer Mar 12 2016, 06:09 PM
Back in the late 1990's the Dr was working on a deal to have reproduction -4 Fuchs made 16x6 BUT it never happened.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 12 2016, 06:14 PM
Back in the late 1990's the Dr was working on a deal to have reproduction -4 Fuchs made 16x6 BUT it never happened.
Funny, he advertised them in his catalog for years.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 22 2016, 12:19 AM
Anyone see any updates on these wheels?
Raining and too cold to go in the garage so I goofed around on the computer while watching TV tonight...not perfect and needs major work but will be good basis for making a 3D printed scale version.
Posted by: euro911 Mar 22 2016, 03:16 AM
ATS Classics for me ... lightweight and they look like Ferrari wheels 
Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 22 2016, 07:02 AM
wheel companies have been putting their Spin on wheel designs for years,
Nothing new,,,,
Caroll Shelby Talladega
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Posted by: RobW Mar 22 2016, 08:52 AM
Anyone see any updates on these wheels?
Raining and too cold to go in the garage so I goofed around on the computer while watching TV tonight...not perfect and needs major work but will be good basis for making a 3D printed scale version.
I like this Mike... keep going....
Posted by: mepstein Mar 22 2016, 09:28 AM
Anyone see any updates on these wheels?
Raining and too cold to go in the garage so I goofed around on the computer while watching TV tonight...not perfect and needs major work but will be good basis for making a 3D printed scale version.
I like this Mike... keep going....
Better look than Maggie's wheels
Posted by: veekry9 Mar 24 2016, 11:11 AM
4-Fuchs in 18",custom widths.Rhino3D.
Why I like the 1552 endeavor,for a greater selection.
Their product is different enough to be unique,not the same.
This model is a regular extrusion,without the Fuch's forged part's curvature.
http://www.aniwaa.com/comparison/3d-scanners/
The future is now,for your replicating pleasure.
Scan,model,post,machine or print.
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FUCHS18_01_02.pdf ( 187.11k )
Number of downloads: 143
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Simulation,ruf op.
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Semi files,more detail,smaller rads.
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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 26 2016, 07:04 AM
2 piece from OG mahles 15x7 ![yellowsleep[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/yellowsleep[1].gif)
same can be done with fuchs
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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 26 2016, 07:19 AM
hard to beat the OG design,, sometimes an extra inch is greater..
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Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 26 2016, 08:04 AM
hard to beat the OG design,, sometimes an extra inch is greater..
Now copy this center and make it a bolt on rim
You could use steel barrels to keep costs down and have a wide range of sizes. Plus you could make it 4 bolt or 5 bolt.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 31 2016, 09:51 AM
Posted by: eric9144 Apr 1 2016, 02:46 PM
...do it! Really would be a great wheel option
Posted by: gabeurgelles May 6 2016, 04:03 AM
So this is what fifteen52 just released. 
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Posted by: Front yard mechanic May 6 2016, 06:03 AM
Sweet I like it
Posted by: Mueller May 6 2016, 08:29 AM
Sweet I like it
^Same here, I'm sure a set of 4 cost more than I paid for my car so you won't see me rolling a set for sure.
Posted by: 7TPorsh May 6 2016, 09:38 AM
Hootchi mama! I vote YES....too expensive....but YES
Posted by: Chris914n6 May 6 2016, 01:34 PM
I don't get the antique brass look. Doesn't go well with any of the factory colors.
Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 6 2016, 02:20 PM
I'm impressed, but a full set of real 4 bolt fuchs is about the same price as one of those Fifteen52 rims.
Posted by: Mueller May 6 2016, 02:32 PM
I'm impressed, but a full set of real 4 bolt fuchs is about the same price as one of those Fifteen52 rims.
I think the main selling point is the different widths and offsets available.
I'm guessing we'll see them on more VW Bugs and the like than on 914's.
Posted by: mepstein May 6 2016, 02:33 PM
I'm impressed, but a full set of real 4 bolt fuchs is about the same price as one of those Fifteen52 rims.
I just bought a nice set of 4 bolt fuch for $250. How much are the fifteen52's
Posted by: Mueller May 6 2016, 02:35 PM
I'm impressed, but a full set of real 4 bolt fuchs is about the same price as one of those Fifteen52 rims.
I just bought a nice set of 4 bolt fuch for $250. How much are the fifteen52's
Are they 15x7 with a custom offset?
I doubt it
Posted by: mepstein May 6 2016, 02:37 PM
I'm impressed, but a full set of real 4 bolt fuchs is about the same price as one of those Fifteen52 rims.
I just bought a nice set of 4 bolt fuch for $250. How much are the fifteen52's
Are they 15x7 with a custom offset?
I doubt it
No
Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 6 2016, 03:00 PM
I'm impressed, but a full set of real 4 bolt fuchs is about the same price as one of those Fifteen52 rims.
I think the main selling point is the different widths and offsets available.
Good point!
Posted by: Chris Pincetich May 6 2016, 03:52 PM
They would look great on my black 914!
I would order 16x7, but not if it costs more than what I paid for my 914
Posted by: pete000 May 6 2016, 05:49 PM
Probably double the weight of a nice 2.0 Fuch !
Posted by: eric9144 May 6 2016, 07:02 PM
I like them but I know they're going to be at a price point that's going to miss most of the old school 914 crowd. That being said, I'd consider a set if they came in a color scheme I could deal with... There are very few if any decent wheel offerings in 4 bolt.
Silver car and that finish though 
Posted by: matthepcat May 9 2016, 03:04 PM
$700/wheel base price. (+200/wheel for certain colors)
It is true that a set of these cost more than many paid for their whole vehicle.
I like them, but could buy a set of 15" Fuchs for less and refinish them.
Posted by: SirAndy May 9 2016, 03:56 PM
Fixed it for 'ya ...
Posted by: Dave_Darling May 9 2016, 04:18 PM
They're a whole lot newer than a 914 Fuchs wheel, though.
Hey, if they're decently light and decently strong, and come in 914-friendly offsets, I'm happy to see them around!
--DD
Posted by: 1stworks May 9 2016, 04:22 PM
Of course I'm all in!
Super excited to get a set.
Lol
Posted by: gabeurgelles May 9 2016, 08:35 PM
Here are some of the color options for the wheels. 
Posted by: r_towle May 9 2016, 08:56 PM
700 per wheel, I am out.
Posted by: BuddyV May 9 2016, 08:58 PM
Cost?..
Price compared to what we paid for our cars????
Why bother overthinking this...... SOMEONE IS MAKING WHEELS FOR OUR DOPEY LITTLE CAR,!!!
I'M liking the attention.
Posted by: JmuRiz May 10 2016, 08:28 AM
When you can buy a set of 2.0 Fuchs for a couple hundred bucks, spending 2800+ on wheels that look very much the same doesn't make sense.
If I'm going to spend money on stock-ish looking wheels, they will be for alumn steelie looking wheels for the 356 that I can swap on my 914 whenever I want an old school look of hubcap wheels with lightweight benefits.
Posted by: RobW May 11 2016, 03:00 PM
Just noticed on FB
http://www.52outlaw.com/outlaw-002-for-porsche-914-debuts/
Posted by: 1stworks May 11 2016, 03:11 PM
Just noticed on FB
http://www.52outlaw.com/outlaw-002-for-porsche-914-debuts/
15-18
Posted by: 7TPorsh May 11 2016, 04:27 PM
They need to fit a 914 budget too...
Posted by: Dave_Darling May 11 2016, 04:36 PM
When you can buy a set of 2.0 Fuchs for a couple hundred bucks, spending 2800+ on wheels that look very much the same doesn't make sense.
If the 40-year-old (and more!) Fuchs start failing while on the street or on the track, 2800 will probably seem pretty cheap in comparison. The five-lug ones have been failing for a few years now; it's only a matter of time (and, more to the point, use) until ours start failing as well.
...Then again, they're not going on my car any time soon...
--DD
Posted by: veekry9 May 11 2016, 05:18 PM
Forged wheels custom machined and coated in sizes to suit,high quality.
A broken wheel at speed can make for interesting times on or off road.
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Posted by: altitude411 May 11 2016, 05:23 PM
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Posted by: veekry9 May 11 2016, 05:28 PM
It's ok.
Not a buyer.
There is a market,that is sure,and the finish is custom,any flavour including Banana.
Care for a Tango miss?
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Posted by: veekry9 May 11 2016, 05:28 PM
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Posted by: mepstein May 11 2016, 06:13 PM
When you can buy a set of 2.0 Fuchs for a couple hundred bucks, spending 2800+ on wheels that look very much the same doesn't make sense.
If the 40-year-old (and more!) Fuchs start failing while on the street or on the track, 2800 will probably seem pretty cheap in comparison. The five-lug ones have been failing for a few years now; it's only a matter of time (and, more to the point, use) until ours start failing as well.
...Then again, they're not going on my car any time soon...
--DD
Does forged aluminum fail because of age, mileage, a combination of both? I haven't heard of Fuchs failing at a faster rate more recently so I wonder who and how it's determined to be just a mater of time. Will all the other forged and cast aluminum suspension parts on our cars soon be failing and require replacement?
Posted by: veekry9 May 11 2016, 06:21 PM
Fatigue in the alloy on a molecular scale,propagating along the path of least resistance.
Why metal will make audible sound when under strain.
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=acoustic%20analysis%20of%20metal%20creep
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Posted by: siverson May 11 2016, 06:32 PM
I like it.
But (a) that does seem pretty over priced unless it is some sort of exotic material and super light & strong and (b) I can't imagine building a modified 4-cylinder car at this point. If I'm going to modify a 914 and use aftermarket wheels, it's almost certainly going to be 5-bolt.
-Steve
Posted by: veekry9 May 11 2016, 07:42 PM
Relatively,the prices are not out of line for the product.
http://www.atswheels.com/ats/
http://www.carbonrev.com/
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=competition+racing+wheels+
Like the guy at the counter,'How Fast?'
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http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/wheels-tires/1308-20-coolest-old-school-wheels/
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Posted by: 1stworks May 11 2016, 08:14 PM
Posted by: 1stworks May 11 2016, 08:23 PM
Posted by: Mueller May 11 2016, 08:36 PM
When you can buy a set of 2.0 Fuchs for a couple hundred bucks, spending 2800+ on wheels that look very much the same doesn't make sense.
If I'm going to spend money on stock-ish looking wheels, they will be for alumn steelie looking wheels for the 356 that I can swap on my 914 whenever I want an old school look of hubcap wheels with lightweight benefits.
Half the stuff a lot of buy for our cars don't make sense
Many purchases are done because you want something, nothing wrong with that.
Not sure how one can justify spending the same amount of money for those 356 wheel just because you can swap them between 2 different vehicles? And what are the odds you'd swap them on a regular basis to justify it?
I wonder if Braid gets the same negative response to their $800 a pop 17" 5 lug Fuch looking rims?
Posted by: veekry9 May 11 2016, 09:21 PM
Well,they are selling,and a set of 18 x 12"+ on the 912 Turbo RSR would look right at home.
1100 hp needs some big tree saps to stickum.
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Posted by: 7TPorsh May 11 2016, 09:52 PM
Looks like $1k per corner now....argh!
Posted by: sixnotfour May 11 2016, 09:59 PM
Way Cheeeeper..
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Posted by: ssuperflyoldguy May 12 2016, 12:06 AM
Way Cheeeeper..
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Wow, have not seen a mahle done up like that - Nice!
Posted by: veekry9 May 12 2016, 08:02 AM
Well,that really is it,the difference in the cost is proportional to the the method of manufacture.
A diecast Mahle or ATS is less than a forged item from either supplier.
Apples and oranges,or mangoes in the case of cfrp rims.
The why of the price of admission to the race club,Porsche 918s are a little pricey.
Last I checked,no one is diecasting con rods,though I believe that may change soon.
A powdered metal matrix pressing of MgSiC is within the realm of possibilities.
The costs involved,again,are not small for short run production.
The recent advances made in Magnesium/Nano crystal composites are a signal that the masses can reduced by a factor of 0.6.
The strength and high temp performance point to SBC pistons of 180gm,the conrods of similar lightness for the equivilant strength.
Diecasting,then a subsequent hammer upset in such a material would achieve an unprecedented strength/weight ratio.
Wouldn't be inexpensive initially,as is true for every commodity.
The advantage for the aerospace application is obvious,range and load capacity doubled,component lifetime indefinite.
All good,now,how deep into the pocket are you ready to dig.?
I am not advocating the practice,merely noting the reality of the way of the world.Cheep?
An economical way to get a great deal on a set of hot wheels is to simply ring up midnight auto supply and place an order.
As in all things,there is however,some risk attached and the awareness of being bad.
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Posted by: mepstein May 12 2016, 08:16 AM
The availability of different sizes is really nice. The only issue for the higher power cars is you're still working off the smaller cv's. One of the benefits of the five lug conversion was I was able to use early 911 cv's. They easily handle the power of a 3.2 or 3.6. The other benefit is brake choices. I'm not saying everyone needs that versatility and certainly it's not a simple bolt on but $2,800 does buy a lot of options.
Posted by: Aircooledfool Jun 23 2018, 05:09 PM
Way Cheeeeper..
Bumping this old post to see if anyone knows who modified this Mahle wheel?
Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 23 2018, 07:18 PM
me
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=127383&hl=mahlestation
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=198936&hl=mahlestation
Posted by: Aircooledfool Jun 23 2018, 08:15 PM
Beautiful work...thanks for replying. Is this something you are still doing? If so, I can send you a PM with details of what I'm working on.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 23 2018, 08:56 PM
No...
Sorry Magnus. Good luck though!
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 24 2019, 06:27 AM
Kopies.. already..
https://rallysomstore.com.br/categorias/fusca/roda-raw-classics-911-fuchs-ii-dourada-prata.html
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 24 2019, 07:26 AM
Six pages later.......even worse.
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 24 2019, 07:49 AM
Fugly.
Posted by: preach Feb 24 2019, 07:58 AM
Meh. I am keeping my current ones:
Posted by: KELTY360 Feb 24 2019, 11:26 AM
Meh. I am keeping my current ones:
Those would look good on a 911.
Posted by: Chi-town Feb 24 2019, 09:02 PM
They're making a stupid profit margin on these due to the air cooled price bubble.
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