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Posted by: tweet Mar 22 2016, 06:13 PM

Jett is sending in his lock set for restoration. He has some used parts and some NOS. He would like a matched restored lock set. He suggested starting a thread. So, here we go.

This first picture Jett took prior to shipping. We will keep updating the thread as the work progresses.

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Posted by: Kansas 914 Mar 22 2016, 06:40 PM

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 22 2016, 09:21 PM

Hmmmmm.... looks kind of familiar.

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Mar 22 2016, 09:58 PM

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Posted by: Jett Mar 25 2016, 08:42 AM

Thanks Dan, we are super excited to install the hardware on our freshly painted 73 2.0/4 Delphi Green. Adding a pic

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Posted by: tweet Mar 25 2016, 10:38 AM

Better pictures of Jett's parts.

NOS handles are absolutely beautiful. One has a manufacture date of 1987. Nothing like NOS door handles.

NOS glove box lock is interesting. If you look closely you will note that the finish on the lock housing does not appear to be chrome or nickel. It looks like anodizing. I compared it to some used and also a NOS of my own, which definitely have a different plating. Maybe Porsche decided to cut corners and save money during later production. Similar mindset when they decided to paint the face caps instead of providing a stainless steel cap as in earlier locks. Also when they switched to plastic collars instead of the stainless steel collars. Ridiculous, considering how much money Porsche makes on parts.

External Observations of used parts:
The other parts will need a complete rebuild; the works. There is evidence of heavy exterior oxidation on the trunk lock and ignition. The ignition lock is jammed up. Original keys are binding on most/all of the locks. Original keys are worn, one has extreme wear. Extensive bubbling of chrome on trunk lock indicates deep pitting in base casting. This damage will go all the way down to the zinc creating pits. Essentially, tiny little pot holes of missing metal in the casting. T-handle cylinder is not rotating smoothly and paint can definitely be improved upon. Ignition switch will need to be replaced, cracked. It has also been drowned in some type of lubricant. Not the best idea for an electrical part. Also, some petroleum based lubricants degrade plastics.

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Posted by: tweet Mar 25 2016, 10:44 AM

More before pictures.

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Posted by: tweet Mar 25 2016, 10:45 AM

Incredible paint!!! Love it.

Posted by: Jett Mar 25 2016, 06:16 PM

Thanks for the evaluation Dan. I look forward to seeing the end result.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 25 2016, 09:25 PM

Porsche didn't make the locks, VW did, and their suppliers DOM KOLB and SWF.

But the reason I'm here is to ask if the pin sizes can be measured from the key and what the values are?

Posted by: tweet Mar 25 2016, 10:07 PM

Yes, you are correct Porsche did not actually manufacture locks. Neiman and AKS also made locks for the 914. However, that was not my statement. Porsche set the standard for parts for the 914. And when they realized that they needed to make cut backs to make money, that's where small details like these came into play. They also eliminated tools from the tool kit and the final year the rear badge was a sticker.

As for measuring the values when you have an extremely worn key it won't do you much good. It also doesn't work when the key is improperly cut.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 27 2016, 11:28 PM

If I knew what the values were supposed to be I'd know how worn this key is

Posted by: tweet Apr 2 2016, 08:32 AM

Speaking of worn keys, here are Jett's original keys. Before anyone freaks, THESE ARE NOT THE KEYS his locks will be keyed to; no security risk involved.

As you can see one of the keys is so extremely worn it doesn't even resemble the other.

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Posted by: tweet Apr 2 2016, 08:35 AM

This is the current condition of the internals prior to cleaning.

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Posted by: jsaum Apr 2 2016, 10:14 AM

QUOTE(tweet @ Apr 2 2016, 07:35 AM)

This is the current condition of the internals prior to cleaning.

Is the lock in the last picture the glove box lock?

Posted by: 914Mike Apr 2 2016, 10:22 AM

QUOTE(jsaum @ Apr 2 2016, 08:14 AM)

Is the lock in the last picture the glove box lock?

Yes.

Posted by: tweet Apr 19 2016, 12:34 PM

Parts after an extended soaking in solution to clean them up. The internals were heavily oxidized. Although they are much better than before cleaning, they still require further work to remove the remaining oxidation.

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Posted by: Jett Apr 22 2016, 09:04 PM

Great work and much appreciated!

Btw. The car sat for 27 years in mud, but now she's almost back to former glory.

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Apr 22 2016, 09:07 PM

27?

Posted by: Jett Apr 22 2016, 11:32 PM

1985. The PO had a field of old cars. Apparently he would buy the car, drive for a couple of years and then park... Buy a new car and repeat.

QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Apr 22 2016, 08:07 PM)

27?

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Apr 23 2016, 10:26 AM

QUOTE(Jett @ Apr 22 2016, 10:32 PM)

1985. The PO had a field of old cars. Apparently he would buy the car, drive for a couple of years and then park... Buy a new car and repeat.

QUOTE(whitetwinturbo @ Apr 22 2016, 08:07 PM)

27?

.................must of had a huge yard

Posted by: bandjoey Apr 23 2016, 10:47 AM

If you have a keen eye you can read a key like any professional locksmith. (and Jett )

Eyeballing from the side grooves you can 'see' the depths of the cuts. A locksmith can read the key and code cut a new key. However.....and this is the big however, the tumblers are equally worn and need to be replaced too, or you've wasted money.

Jett is doing a real service to overhaul these locks.

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Posted by: ThePaintedMan Apr 23 2016, 03:43 PM

Dan knows his stuff (and FYI, he's the one restoring the locks for Jett). It's one of those things you'd rather just send to him and have it done right, sort of like brakes with Eric.

Posted by: bandjoey Apr 23 2016, 06:34 PM

Yep...I've not seen any old locks look so good in these pictures.

Posted by: colingreene Apr 24 2016, 11:01 AM

But it wont work well if you install the trunk lock cyl upside down right?

Posted by: Jett Apr 25 2016, 07:47 PM

Agreed, Dan is the wizard and we are fortunate to have his services.

Regarding the restoration. We took an approach to only replace what is necessary and find people like Dan to restore parts that can be saved.

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Apr 23 2016, 02:43 PM)

Dan knows his stuff (and FYI, he's the one restoring the locks for Jett). It's one of those things you'd rather just send to him and have it done right, sort of like brakes with Eric.

Posted by: arkitect Apr 30 2016, 07:08 AM

QUOTE(Jett @ Mar 25 2016, 07:42 AM)

Thanks Dan, we are super excited to install the hardware on our freshly painted 73 2.0/4 Delphi Green. Adding a pic

Make sure to update with plenty of picts of this when completed. ..love this color, don't see to many.

Dave

Posted by: Jett May 2 2016, 08:54 PM

Will do. We have been carefully documenting the entire process, including capturing the factory part numbers for all parts added... Last two weekends were spent sorting every nut, bolt and washer -- it was a pleasure and pain

QUOTE(arkitect @ Apr 30 2016, 06:08 AM)

QUOTE(Jett @ Mar 25 2016, 07:42 AM)

Thanks Dan, we are super excited to install the hardware on our freshly painted 73 2.0/4 Delphi Green. Adding a pic

Make sure to update with plenty of picts of this when completed. ..love this color, don't see to many.

Dave

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:25 AM

Even after two weeks of soaking in solution, there is still some oxidation on the tumblers of the ignition cylinder. If you look closely, they also show signs of extensive wear.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:28 AM

NOS handles before cleaning. These are beautiful but the lube is old and gunked up.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:32 AM

Handles after disassembly and cleaning. The old lube was already tacky and sticky and needed to go. If not, it would act like glue to any debris entering the cylinders causing things to get gummed up and moving parts to bind.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:34 AM

Lock cylinders after third round of cleaning to remove remaining oxidation. I cannot stress the importance of well lubed, clean, oxidation-free lock cylinders. There isn't a locksmith I have ever met that will perform this level of work and I have had work done by numerous locksmiths.

This is not just locksmithing, this is restoration work. When someone tells you they will rekey a lock for cheap, cheap is what you will get. You will also continue to have problems with your locks.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:37 AM

Face caps and collar highly polished as well as the retaining nuts. This is a step above factory spec. Even on NOS handles and locks, the factory did not included this level of detail.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:38 AM

All smalls cleaned and treated for oxidation. No detail is overlooked in this full restoration.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 10:39 AM

New mounting hardware to be installed. No rusty nuts and bolts here.

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Posted by: Cracker May 15 2016, 10:39 AM

Impressive!

T

QUOTE(tweet @ May 15 2016, 11:37 AM)

Face caps and collar highly polished as well as the retaining nuts. This is a step above factory spec. Even on NOS handles and locks, the factory did not included this level of detail.

Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 11:08 AM

This steering lock housing will be replaced. Two small parts dropped out once the ignition cylinder assembly was removed. As you can see, prior to disassembly, it was frozen in place. Anyone else would have thrown the whole thing away.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 11:14 AM

No more chipped paint here.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 04:19 PM

Cold galvanizing of the rear trunk and handle cams, as well as the t-handle screw.
No more oxidation or rust to contend with in the future.

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 04:21 PM

Not new, but as close as you will get. (Except for the glove box, it is NOS that was chromed).

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Posted by: tweet May 15 2016, 04:24 PM

Although the handles are NOS, the seals were still degraded. This is what happened to them after removal. Not to worry, this lock set is getting all new internal seals, nylon cams, and body gaskets.

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