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Posted by: Coondog Apr 25 2016, 09:29 AM

Just read a thread on the Pelican parts forum that Pelicans owner Wayne had his 914-6 stolen last night in Harbor City......close to LA. He hasn't posted a pic yet, if someone has one please post and be on the lookout.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Apr 25 2016, 09:48 AM

Wow, that sucks!

I hope it's found soon and in one piece.

I think it's his 74 six conversion, right?

Posted by: 396 Apr 25 2016, 09:54 AM

If you folks ever visit other sites, you will know that there's been a rash of 993's walking off. Some say, off to a container and off it goes overseas. Sad but true....signs of the times.

Posted by: Menmojo Apr 25 2016, 10:06 AM

Hopefully he posts some recent pictures soon.

Heads up to all in CA keep you eyes out for his car.

Posted by: Ferg Apr 25 2016, 10:07 AM

Here is a video with it. Black with Flares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBkWl9yBHwQ

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Apr 25 2016, 10:10 AM

I pulled that pic from pelican's site, had Wayne's name next to it. Weird that the pic was never updated with the finished product.

That video should help identify it as long as it's not already on a container heading across the sea.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 25 2016, 11:34 AM

Happened this morning, 12AM or so - Harbor City. Last seen traveling north on Vermont after passing Lomita at about 95 mph according to the Police. At least the car got some exercise. Hopefully they just took it for a joyride and dropped it in a parking lot somewhere. I've been driving around all night looking for it. I've got the team assembling a search party of about 10 people with cars and maps and we will go hunting for it.

More details and pics to come when I wake up (been up all night).


-Wayne

Posted by: pete000 Apr 25 2016, 11:35 AM

Should be easy to spot the M471 fenders ware welded on with exposed welds and not surface finished last I saw it.

I haven't seen him drive it in a long time.

I never thought the 914 would be worthy of getting stolen !

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Apr 25 2016, 11:36 AM

I'm very sorry for your loss and I hope you find it!

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Apr 25 2016, 11:52 AM

I have a bad feeling that parts from this car will end up on eBay. If he posts a serial number of his engine, I'll keep an eye out on the interwebs.

Posted by: 396 Apr 25 2016, 11:54 AM

These incidents will also continue to occur, as long as you have folks who want your toys and don't want to work for it. We live in an " I'm entitled " society now.

Posted by: bandjoey Apr 25 2016, 12:05 PM

I guess we do now need a kill switch and gps tracker since values are shooting up.



Panel Billys post has a gps at $119 + service. Or,
Get a $100 Iphone 4, wire the charger to the car, and toss it in the front trunk. Add it to your service for an extra $10 a month, and if the car goes missing, use Find My Phone service.....just a couple of things to look at.

Posted by: r_towle Apr 25 2016, 12:07 PM

Wow, how you come to these conclusions is a wonder.

It's not the first time a Porsche was stolen and shipped to a far off land.
Didn't this start happening beck in the 70,s when many of us were kids?

Or, is this the first time theft has occurred?

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 25 2016, 12:12 PM

Remember the good old days when everyone was always nice to each other and nothing ever got stolen?

No? Me neither ...

Posted by: Sedonut Apr 25 2016, 01:16 PM

I heard rumor of stagecoach and train robberies and horse thieves.

Harbor City is not the best part of LA. From what I recall Pelican is in a pretty nice industrial area.

As times get tougher I recommend everyone be on guard. The gummint is cutting food stamps/ebt cards. IF you get hungry and there are no jobs, you steal or starve.

Posted by: 396 Apr 25 2016, 01:55 PM

Come on...don't post the truth.
Anyway, the posting of the "stolen- 6" has been deleted by the admins on the bird site.
I guess they don't want any publicity. Oh well, its life.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Apr 25 2016, 02:00 PM

It's still on there...

Posted by: RenoRoger Apr 25 2016, 02:00 PM

Car thieves are not folks who are starving. They are organized criminals. Remember how they treated horse thieves in years past? Find the thief and a lamp post.

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 25 2016, 02:02 PM

he probably left the keys in it and a buddy taught him a lesson......
why else would they take it down with no explanation

Edit ..just got done typing and posted to see ...

see it here;
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-914-6-technical-forum/911747-waynes-914-6-conversion-stolen.html

Posted by: pete000 Apr 25 2016, 02:26 PM

That address is next door to Pelican parts. Did he leave it in the street there? That would be nuts !

Or is that address an extension of his shop where he stores cars?

Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 25 2016, 02:37 PM

Why would the boss have to park his car on the street? If that's the case.

Posted by: 396 Apr 25 2016, 02:44 PM

Sorry for my inaccurate posting above. The Stolen tread is a Sticky now. He's lucky one of his 962s didn't walk off. I guess the overall security situations going to change now.

Posted by: RobW Apr 25 2016, 03:52 PM

That sucks.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 25 2016, 04:19 PM

OMG! I hope they find that sucker out of gas parked neatly by the curb - soon. Worst nightmare for one of us as it relates to cars.

Posted by: Mueller Apr 25 2016, 04:55 PM

I agree with you, crime is up everywhere, how can people be so blind not to see the increase?

As the price of these cars go up, they will be stolen more for the entire car or parts.

Posted by: bandjoey Apr 25 2016, 06:05 PM

He has photos of a Box Truck that was involved. Did they just drive it in and take off?

Posted by: porschetub Apr 25 2016, 06:10 PM

Mr Dempsey will be gutted that car has more history with him than any in his collection hands down.

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 25 2016, 06:20 PM

The Truck....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-914-6-technical-forum/911747-waynes-914-6-conversion-stolen.html


Attached image(s)

Posted by: OU812 Apr 25 2016, 06:26 PM

There are various commercial locating/GPS services available.

My job as a Utilities Superintendent has me keeping track of heavy machinery valued at $150,000 to over 1 million dollars per machine in some cases.

All of our Machinery is outfitted with a locating ping that has a independent power source. We also use a simular, only less expensive locating device on our Chop saws and other expensive small tools that tend to grow legs and disappear never to return.

It only stands to reason if you have a item of value and want to make certain it cannot be Heisted away from your ownership that you would protect it any way you can.

Stealing is a horrible thing, but failure to take the initiative to protect your "stuff" is a close second.

Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 25 2016, 06:44 PM

What's up with the truck? How do they know it was involved? How the hell did they get it up that high in that truck?

Posted by: mepstein Apr 25 2016, 06:55 PM

If you could post some more info about that technology, id really appreciate it. I could could really use that sort of technology in a consumer or affordable commercial version.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 25 2016, 06:55 PM

Is that so?

California's official numbers, per 100,000 people:

Year Population Index Violent Property Murder Rape Robbery Assault Burglary Larceny Theft Vehicle Theft
1990 29,760,021 6,603.6 1,045.2 5,558.4 11.9 42.6 377.0 613.6 1,345.4 3,197.5 1,015.5
1991 30,380,000 6,772.6 1,089.9 5,682.7 12.7 42.4 411.3 623.5 1,397.8 3,246.0 1,038.9
1992 30,867,000 6,679.5 1,119.7 5,559.8 12.7 41.3 424.1 641.6 1,384.9 3,137.8 1,037.1
1993 31,211,000 6,456.9 1,077.8 5,379.1 13.1 37.7 405.1 621.8 1,327.0 3,029.1 1,023.0
1994 31,431,000 6,173.8 1,013.0 5,160.8 11.8 34.9 356.8 609.4 1,222.5 2,957.7 980.6

2000 33,871,648 3,739.7 621.6 3,118.2 6.1 28.9 177.9 408.7 656.3 1,924.5 537.4
2001 34,600,463 3,893.2 615.2 3,278.0 6.4 28.8 186.7 393.3 671.3 2,016.6 590.1
2002 35,001,986 3,956.6 595.4 3,361.2 6.8 29.1 185.6 373.8 681.2 2,044.7 635.3
2003 35,462,712 4,006.0 579.6 3,426.4 6.7 28.2 179.8 364.8 683.2 2,062.7 680.5
2004 35,842,038 3,970.8 527.8 3,423.9 6.7 26.8 172.3 322.0 686.1 2,033.1 704.8

2010 37,338,198 3,069.5 439.6 2,629.9 4.8 22.3 155.6 256.8 612.9 1,608.4 408.5
2011 37,683,933 2,995.4 411.2 2,584.2 4.8 20.3 144.1 242.0 610.5 1,584.0 389.7
2012 37,999,878 3,185.3 423.5 2,761.8 5.0 20.6 148.7 249.2 646.8 1,671.3 443.7
2013 38,431,393 3,053.8 402.6 2,651.2 4.5 19.4 139.6 231.7 603.8 1,617.3 430.1
2014 38,802,500 2,837.2 396.1 2,441.1 4.4 21.6 125.5 236.6 522.3 1,527.4 391.3

According to official sources, numbers have steadily declined since they peaked in the early '90s.


There's a big difference between media hype (which pays them money) and the actual numbers (which doesn't pay them money).
Fear sells ...

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 25 2016, 07:10 PM

A bad deal indeed. If you've ever read "The Ransom of Little Red Chief" by O'Henry, have you ever envisioned one of these thieves stealing a teener and the inevitable ending?

Posted by: OU812 Apr 25 2016, 07:12 PM

www.lojack.com

The Lojack Stolen Vehicle Recovery System is an aftermarket vehicle tracking system that allows vehicles to be tracked by police, with the aim of recovering them in case of theft. The manufacturer claims a 90% recovery rate. The name "LoJack" was coined to be the "antithesis of hijack", wherein "hijack" refers to the theft of a vehicle through force.

Posted by: 396 Apr 25 2016, 07:12 PM

Do you really believe the Feds? If I recall, they let lots of criminals go due to budget concerns.
Also don't let the main stream media lead one like a cow around.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 25 2016, 07:27 PM

Right, because your "gut feeling", internet loons and media fear mongering are so much more reliable sources of information than actual numbers from those who keep track of these things.

Posted by: mepstein Apr 25 2016, 07:31 PM

I don't want LoJack, I want what oub12 described. Besides my 914's, I have about a doezen bikes that I'd like to keep tabs on.

Posted by: OU812 Apr 25 2016, 07:52 PM

That's what so great about living in the US....you are free to choose the product you wish. Even if it is sub-standard.

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Apr 25 2016, 08:13 PM

Last I heard it was called the "Lame stream media", right? Or something like that?

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Apr 25 2016, 08:24 PM

If your thinking about Lojack, check if your area is even in the coverage area,

http://www.lojack.com/Buy-LoJack-Products/Check-Coverage

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Posted by: infraredcalvin Apr 25 2016, 08:46 PM

Depending on how many people actually use his app... Here's a cheap alternative...

https://www.thetileapp.com/how-it-works

Posted by: Amphicar770 Apr 25 2016, 09:22 PM

http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=128

AAA lithium batteries last 6-12 months. Very small so easy to hide. Uses the GlobalStar network used by commercial trucking, etc.

Someone mentioned Tile. I have a bunch of those for keys and such. They rely on bluetooth and have a VERY limited range. They are very handy but I would not consider them a suitable tracking device for a vehicle.

Posted by: siverson Apr 25 2016, 09:27 PM

+$100/year.

-Steve

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 25 2016, 10:09 PM

Do the turbo tie rods require the washers that come in the "kit" or not?

Posted by: campbellcj Apr 25 2016, 10:34 PM

I'm working on an insurance policy upgrade and probably will add security cameras to the system here shortly too. These days I think the parts prices and certainly early 911 prices are attracting thieves to cars they normally would pass over for the Camrys and Accords. Just look at what they can sell a good 3.2 or 3.6 911 engine for as an example. And they're easily containerized and sent anywhere globally.

Posted by: 396 Apr 25 2016, 11:46 PM

Actually no, unless someone bends you over.

Posted by: Blue6 Apr 26 2016, 12:17 AM

Oh SirAndy, you could not be more misinformed. The stats for at least the last 20 yrs are a load of crap. In city's and their respective police departments, there is significant pressure placed on the officers, detectives, hell even the police chiefs, to under report part 1 crimes. I'm very familiar with the two largest departments in Ca, and what they report to the Feds could be put to better use as toilet paper. With the propositions that released inmates, together with the increase in Meth use, crime is at an all time high...
When the stats of a particular crime get high enough that it might be of concern to the public, the Feds just reclassify it..I was part of the merry go round for 34 yrs. Sorry, you can delete it..

Posted by: porschetub Apr 26 2016, 01:41 AM

Dunno what you going to sell off it,motor no,gearbox no,body no,,all serial numbered parts and I'am sure the owner has all those details,can't see this car ever being sold complete somehow,wonder if they got the licence plate from the truck in the photo's?.

Posted by: mepstein Apr 26 2016, 04:36 AM

People dont buy 3.2's for the serial numbers. If the 3.2 engine in my 914 was a stolen engine, nobody would know. I don't know what the serial number is and have no reason to look. We buy 3.2's & 3.6's all the time. There isn't a reason to research an engines serial number. It's just a 30 year old engine.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 26 2016, 06:38 AM

I hate to say it but Blue6 is right. I too have been in that world for a very long time and departments are very aware of the impact their reported number to the Feds have on property values, both residential and commercial. So they play with the statistics and reclassify crimes to fall outside of the serious crime categories they actually are.

I remember back over 35 years ago when this first came to my attention and a local small bedroom community in the Bay Area that was experiencing a serious rash of auto burglaries, due to their proximity to an urban ghetto city, just reclassified them as petty thefts so they would not be subject to reporting. That was just the tip of the iceberg. When they realized that worked they started doing that with everything. Money talks in all worlds.

Think about the current unemployment rate in the USA. If you believe those numbers are accurate.....

Posted by: mbseto Apr 26 2016, 08:10 AM

So you say the owner of this car is roughly the moral equivalent of the person that stole this car because the owner didn't install the proper alarm?

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Apr 26 2016, 08:23 AM

Sadly yes, they even made a television series about car theft called "Bait Car"

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 26 2016, 08:55 AM

Alarms do no good here in CA. Nuisance and nothing more. Rest assured I will take measures to be sure (absent teleportation) that my Six stays put when it returns home.

I will also makes sure before it leaves VA it is adequately insured in the event of aforementioned teleportation, etc.

Posted by: 396 Apr 26 2016, 08:58 AM

One of the silliest posting I've seen this year.

Posted by: Darren C Apr 26 2016, 09:05 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc

Posted by: dflesburg Apr 26 2016, 09:07 AM

I like linxup.com

Posted by: RobW Apr 26 2016, 09:34 AM

I like Axel Rose on the subject - "you can take anything you want, but you better not take it from me...."

Posted by: campbellcj Apr 26 2016, 09:48 AM

Bingo! How many of us have actually researched the history and tried to determine if something was stolen before buying it on ebay or at a swap meet? Hmm. Didn't think so.

Best bet is a locked and alarmed garage, cameras, dog, and good insurance.

Posted by: OU812 Apr 26 2016, 10:02 AM

It has nothing to do with the type of alarm...It has everything to do with due diligence.

In today's world if you have anything of value i.e. Car, Diamonds, Art, Ect.....you have a obligation to protect it from those who want to take it from you.

No personal Morality brought in to question. Just the facts of the society we live in.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Apr 26 2016, 10:04 AM

Sad to hear this....too much like the movie Gone in 60 Seconds.

If your car isn't on a lift or jack stands then the best protection is prevention I think.
Kill switch, fuel lock, alarm. Your working against the clock.

If they get the car running and out the clock starts ticking. Five minutes later they drive it into a container and your GPS and other electro device fall on their face. And you're still home sleeping or at your buddy's drinking beer.

Posted by: Mueller Apr 26 2016, 12:47 PM

I'm part of our neighborhood watch and have lived in the same house for 17 years and I know for a fact the crime has increased dramatically in my neighborhood and the surrounding areas.

http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_21992679/antioch-sees-45-percent-increase-crime-rate-17

That was just the 1st one I found of many.


Back on topic, any more news of this stolen 914?

Posted by: bandjoey Apr 26 2016, 01:00 PM

I 'chatted' with Hagerty just now, and insurance discounts are offered for a tracking device. It looks like a good way to protect the stuff.

Watched the Spyspot video and it shows they use gps as well as cell tower data to track, and up to 6 month battery life..not selling it, just for info.

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 26 2016, 01:13 PM

Ok....perhaps I should put a finer point on my post:

I like this Community and in context to the intent of the OP I will keep my eyes peeled since I do business in the area and live in the Southern California area.

I don't think it's relevant or helpful to point out which statistic is more correct or what one (this isn't personnel) believes or not.

Theft has been happening since the 1st Apple was taken from the Tree of Knowledge. Maybe when the thief is found, he'll be crucified between somebody that is innocent?

I do believe it is relevant of what we all can do to protect against theft given new technologies ect. and bind ourselves as a Community.

I believe Wayne has posted more on the Bird Board about the theft. Good tidings Wayne, I hope you find the car intact.

Carry on.

Posted by: OU812 Apr 26 2016, 02:30 PM

In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone?... the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression. Today we have a similar debate over this. Anyone know what this is? Class? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone seen this before? The Laffer Curve. Anyone know what this says? It says that at this point on the revenue curve, you will get exactly the same amount of revenue as at this point. This is very controversial. Does anyone know what Vice President Bush called this in 1980? Anyone? Something-d-o-o economics. "Voodoo" economics.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 26 2016, 02:49 PM

Read the fuching rules, no political discussion is allowed here and your comments have nothing to do with a stolen Porsche in Harbor City, California.

Posted by: 6freak Apr 26 2016, 03:21 PM

all this for a four banger conversion shit dont get your real 6 stolen or they may call the national guard...good luck to the owner
Mike

Posted by: OU812 Apr 26 2016, 04:53 PM

Its an old line from Ferris Bullers day off.... Lawrence Chill out!

What is with some of the folks on this site? you feel like you need to resort to using expletives when you reply to people. As if you cannot form a response without swearing at people>

Posted by: Porschef Apr 26 2016, 05:05 PM

Political discussion? While I don't think it's at all relevant to the OP, I'd aver that a post that relates to 1980 at the earliest should probably go under the heading of "history"...

That said, can we focus, once again, on the OP?

Posted by: OU812 Apr 26 2016, 05:16 PM

Groovy

Posted by: RobW Apr 26 2016, 05:28 PM

Dig the Ferris Bueller reference!

Posted by: Blue6 Apr 26 2016, 05:38 PM

I think Larmo meant "Fuching"

Posted by: 914bub Apr 26 2016, 06:30 PM

I'm with Rick. I was wondering how they knew the truck was involved since it was apparently stolen in the middle of the night. Maybe it was seem casing things before the heist?

Not to get back on topic or anything. And oh yeah,..........stay off Larmos lawn!

Posted by: jim_hoyland Apr 26 2016, 07:44 PM

Any security cams ?

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 26 2016, 08:50 PM

10:30 AM is not exactly in the middle of the night ...

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 26 2016, 08:58 PM

"Read the fuching rules, no political discussion is allowed here"

My comment was in reference to what was said to me the other day by a person from the liberal persuasion here.

Verbatim.

That gate swings both ways.

Posted by: bdstone914 Apr 26 2016, 09:32 PM

Pelican owns the building next to them too. Been in ther once and is mostly storage.
Bruce

Posted by: Steve Pratel Apr 26 2016, 09:35 PM

Go take your meds stay on topic and keep the political crap in the sandbox and read the forum rules..................

Hope Wayne finds his car, but this whole thing seems a bit off to me.

Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 26 2016, 09:48 PM

Feel really bad for Wayne. I had a 68 Camero and a rust free 1960 Chevy Impala 2dr Hard top with a 348 4sp stolen two days apart. The Camero was found on a dead end road so wrecked you could make out the what kind of car it was. The 60 ended up in the scrap yard in the crusher pile. I was 18 with no insurance. Very sad, still bothers me. Hope it's found. Wayne is a good guy I hope to meet one day.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 26 2016, 09:57 PM

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 26 2016, 10:10 PM

Hey Rick, we can talk 348's & 409's next time we meet. I had all of them in a 56 when I was a kid. You could pull stumps with those slant blocks.

Posted by: 914bub Apr 26 2016, 10:15 PM

Wow, previous post deleted,.......Really?

I was agreeing with Rick about questions with the box truck. How and why was it tied to this heist? The box truck pix are clearly shot in the daytime and the car was stolen around 12:30 AM? Was the same box truck seen casing this place???

Once again,..... back on topic.

And hopefully not deleted.

Posted by: OU812 Apr 26 2016, 10:30 PM

I is quite hypocritical of some of you to jump on me , when I can go back at past posts of yours and find "political" items. You also need to read the rules as well .

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 26 2016, 10:30 PM

Does nobody read anymore?

From Wayne himself, in his thread on Pelican:

The 914 was stolen in broad daylight at about 11:30AM

Posted by: Coondog Apr 26 2016, 10:50 PM

Easy there Mr. Admin, his first Pelican thread stated it was stolen at 12am and further noted it was seen being driven by the Police at 12:30 am
In a updated thread he spoke of it being stolen at 11:30am then being seen that night by the Police.
Easy for some readers to be confused.........

Posted by: johnpierre Apr 26 2016, 11:22 PM

sorry to hear this sad news Wayne...

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 27 2016, 12:23 AM

Hope he finds it..

Posted by: euro911 Apr 27 2016, 02:19 AM

Coincidentally, back in the mid-70's, I used to work in the same building that Pelican currently runs their business out of. It was the customer repair facility for a company named Pathcom (communications equipment).

Over and out.

Posted by: 396 Apr 27 2016, 03:42 AM

I have first hand experience on how it feels to have someone " walk off " something of value vs working for it.
After high school, I bought a new Kawasaki three cylinder for transportation back and forth to UCLA.....one morning, I went to school, parked it on the street. After my speech class, I uncover that my Kawasaki....simply "walked" off.
First time I was exposed to the intentions of others ... had that Kawasaki for one week. Insurance paid me $350 less than what I paid - as it was a one week old used bike. Got hosed on both ends. That experience taught me two things: you have a segment of the population that "simply " will steal . Second, how insurance company works too...
Both a one way street.
I don't think the 914 in question will show up again- at least as a complete car.

Posted by: Steve Pratel Apr 27 2016, 11:55 PM

I dont do politics, only religion but not in this forum

Kidding aside, your post was way off dude.

Posted by: veekry9 Apr 28 2016, 06:26 AM

A joyrider?
A whodunnit,solved by the mass experience of the World's tv viewing,all those hours of detecting.
A black 914-6,seen on broadcast by millions,can't stay hidden.
As Sherlock said,give me clues.Allow me some conjecture,to build a hypothesis.
Hard to believe a random score,tho the sighting,hours later by police points to thrill seekers.
Someone familiar with 914s,wanting a six,knew where one was stored,knew it would start,knew the layout.,
a familiar face,known to 914 enthusiasts,has a 914-4 recipient,access to an enclosed garage,local to LA.

Bastages.
/
Stranger things have happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJDT04DOalI
/

Posted by: rjames Apr 28 2016, 01:05 PM

I keep checking back in hopes that there's a post stating that the car has been found and in the condition it was before it was stolen.

Hope some good news comes soon.

Posted by: stugray Apr 28 2016, 01:57 PM

Totally agree that IF you find the perp it will be someone that frequents the premises.

EVERY time I have had something stolen (and figured out who did it), it was someone that was familiar with my stuff and my schedule.

Posted by: Coondog Apr 28 2016, 09:37 PM

Suspect number one. Bet you still have a key to the building and your moving to Arz. Very suspicious if you ask me.......

Posted by: mepstein Apr 28 2016, 09:43 PM

Someone stole 3 motorcycles from a sea container we use for storage. Even put the parts back in the container so we didn't notice it right away. 99% sure we know the past employee who did it but no proof.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 28 2016, 10:53 PM

I wasn't employed there long enough to rate a key to the building, let alone the executive restroom ... (Sitting at a work bench inhaling (lead) solder fumes for 8 hours a day wasn't actually as much fun as it sounds)

... and from reading the post on Pelican, I take it the car was stored at a different building anyway

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 01:40 PM

I know this is an old topic, but I just ran across a salvage auction for this car that was stolen. I never heard if the thief and/or this car was ever found, but here it is.

I apologize if this has already been posted somewhere.

Posted by: Mueller Feb 21 2018, 01:43 PM

Interesting, wonder what it'll go for? Neat find. Guessing insurance paid out since car is at auction.

Posted by: mtndawg Feb 21 2018, 01:50 PM

Interesting

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 01:52 PM

I'm curious to see what it goes for as well. The site lists ACV (actual cash value prior to theft) at $45K. Other than being dirty, I wonder how badly it was beat on. Must have been bad enough for Wayne to take the insurance money and let her go.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 21 2018, 01:54 PM

Wayne has 3 962's as well as a lot of other high end Porsches. He just sold his company for big $. I doubt the 914 is even on his mind.

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 21 2018, 02:00 PM

must have left the key in it ...joy ride special, 45k for that ,,Id take ins $$$ too..

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 02:16 PM

I didn't realize he sold the company. Three 962s? THREE?

Posted by: burton73 Feb 21 2018, 03:05 PM

So this sale is in Gardena. Right next to me. It this real? They want ID =DL to join up.

Need the $150 membership to go see the car.

Not sure I want to give them that and 150 for the bigger membership

Bob B

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 03:08 PM

You should go there in person and talk to them before you give them that kind of info and money.

Posted by: burton73 Feb 21 2018, 03:24 PM

Called. $150 for the big membership. $10 off for special promo code. They will let you know 1 week before and it costs $25. To go to the yard and look over the car 1 day before the on line and live at the yard sale. So I would be in $165. Before I bid

Some people must know this car? Mr Stone worked there.

The 3.2 and converted 6 is worth some money. Men at work or money at work!

Bob B

Posted by: mepstein Feb 21 2018, 03:27 PM

problem is that a lot of those auctions have their own shill bidders in the crowd to make sure the cars don't go cheap.

Posted by: burton73 Feb 21 2018, 03:45 PM

What do you think this is worth? Looked at the video and Wayne says it has a 911 trans and steel flares.911 front suspension

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 21 2018, 05:12 PM

Did anyone tell Wayne? I woudn't be surprised if he doesn't know ...

Posted by: Freezin 914 Feb 21 2018, 05:48 PM

As much as all of us 914 guys are drooling, someone that knows Wayne should at the least inform him. Anyone that has ever had anything of value stolen would sure like to know what happened to that stolen item. Who knows, maybe even get reunited. P.S. very nice looking car....

Posted by: pete000 Feb 21 2018, 05:52 PM

Threw a post up over on his site...

He should buy it back !

Looks like they broke the deck lid and engine cover...

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 05:54 PM

I just posted in a thread on Pelican, not sure if he'll see it though. Someone around here has to know him or know how to get in touch with him

I read that they caught the thief but never found the car. He collected insurance money and bought a race car. So he may not know about this new development.

Posted by: Freezin 914 Feb 21 2018, 05:58 PM

The auction hasn’t started yet. They are waiting on paperwork, so he may have a chance to get it back, if not, you folks with some cash burning a hole in your pockets, time to pony up!

Posted by: mb911 Feb 21 2018, 06:28 PM

Cool that they found it but looks like a rough car for 45k.. I know the 3.2 and if it has 915 in it brings thd value up but if you do a quick addition exercise the cost of the good parts is 30k so is the chassis worth 15k?

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 07:31 PM

That's what they say the value was prior to the theft/damage. The car was beautiful before some jackals went for a joy ride.

Posted by: burton73 Feb 21 2018, 07:40 PM

This car does not run there so a person is taking a chance that it works or what happened to it. Plus you get a salvage bill of sale that put a small cloud over it if a person wanted to get out of it later.

So say a bidder got this for 30,000. Would he be doing good? The 45 that Wayne got was an agreed on value with his insurance co. I do not think he could of sold it for 45m 2 years ago. Or should I say not sure. The paint and the bodywork look bad. Nice wheels but are they real Fuchs of copies.

Bob B

Posted by: mb911 Feb 21 2018, 07:44 PM

The flares were never finished just welded on. You can see all 4 seams.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 21 2018, 07:54 PM

Didn't realize that, I only saw it in that poor quality video with Adam Carolla. Still, I would love to have it if I could afford it and fix it up

Posted by: Beach914 Feb 21 2018, 08:42 PM

And a RSR and a Brumos 935and a few others. I was invited to go see his 936JR at his man cave at Pelican and was absolutely amazed at his collection of vehicles and toys.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 21 2018, 09:06 PM

959, ect. I would like to be there for show and tell day.

Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 21 2018, 10:04 PM

I agree that the salvage title is generally a negative. But in this instance, I’d say the story adds to the provenance. As far as the does not run thing, it’s hard to kill a 3.2... this car has been in a video with Adam Corolla, it was owned by the owner of Pelican Parts, it’s almost sauce for the goose. “Why yes it does have a salvage title. Did you read about why?”

Posted by: Edward Blume Feb 21 2018, 10:47 PM

Per our database, the car was originally Olympic blue and was owned by dstar, a member who now lives in Germany.

Reminds me of Dieter...

Posted by: Wayne at Pelican Parts Feb 23 2018, 12:29 AM

Thanks for the kind words. Actually, the 914 was / is the first car I ever bought. I've personally spent about 1,000 hours working on it. When it was stolen, I spent about 150 hours driving through Los Angeles looking for the guy who stole it. Long story, but I did find the guy, and he is now in jail (he was out on parole for rape!). The detective working the case from two years ago phoned me the other day with a tip that they may be on the way to recovering the car. It turned up inside of a stolen trailer about a week ago in Long Beach. I waited almost a year to take the insurance payout, assuming it had been parted out. The car must go to the auction now, but I will be there to bid on it and reclaim it back. I spent several hours there today scoping it out - you need to be a licensed dealer to bid at this auction (I'm setup already there).

So, bottom line, it's very likely to be on it's way back to our location very soon!

Thx,

Wayne

Posted by: euro911 Feb 23 2018, 01:29 AM

Glad to hear, Wayne

Posted by: warpig Feb 23 2018, 01:51 AM

going to pray for no bids but your own

Posted by: falcor75 Feb 23 2018, 02:13 AM

Good to hear its coming back where it belongs. Keep us posted.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 23 2018, 07:46 AM

Wow- that is great news. I hope you get it back and take pictures to post so we can all enjoy the reunion. Cheers!

Posted by: Krieger Feb 23 2018, 08:11 AM

Good luck Wayne!

Posted by: Edward Blume Feb 23 2018, 08:14 AM

Get the word out. Nobody bid on it.

Posted by: theer Feb 23 2018, 08:14 AM

What a great ending to the story! Good luck, Wayne - hope there's not too much in the way of damage from the theft/abandonment.

Posted by: theer Feb 23 2018, 08:15 AM

Double post

Posted by: Steve Feb 23 2018, 08:30 AM

Good news Wayne!! Hope to see you with the car at a future Pelican Cars & Coffee!!

Posted by: worn Feb 23 2018, 08:53 AM

Posted by: Mueller Feb 23 2018, 08:56 AM

That is great news Wayne, this has movie potential or at least a couple page article in Panorama or 000

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 23 2018, 09:13 AM

"nobody bid on it"? Why? Yes he should get the car back, and since this car has sentimental value to Wayne, nobody is going to be able to out bid him. I mean, we already discussed his collection. Regardless, with what it takes to bid in this auction, I don't see there being a lot of action anyway. Just dealers looking to get it cheap and flip it, and Wayne won't let that happen.

Posted by: Edward Blume Feb 23 2018, 11:04 AM

It just a tip of the hat showing respect for someone who was victimized. I won’t hold it against you for thinking otherwise.

Btw- there are lots of flippers on this site. I don’t hold that against them either.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 23 2018, 11:51 AM

Yeah, I totally get that! I don't think anyone on here would bid against Wayne especially now that we know he's aware of it and know that he wants it back.

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 23 2018, 12:00 PM

Good bidding Wayne........guys the Gold 914 that the front hit at auction in WA. state .. was easy 80k invested in it.. I saw helped restore it ..the owner didnt want it back sold for 5k approxx. on it way to Lthuania by boat...

Bottom line those auctions are being watched around the world.



Nick at Eurotech working on itt


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Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 23 2018, 12:03 PM

Well, the $5K that it sold for at auction tells me that there are not a lot of bidders regardless if they are being watched around the world or not.

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 23 2018, 12:35 PM

you should have bought and have money ahead ..or you still looking ??

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Feb 23 2018, 12:46 PM

Forever looking

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 23 2018, 01:18 PM

Posted by: 7TPorsh Feb 23 2018, 02:24 PM

DITTO!

Posted by: markhoward Feb 23 2018, 03:17 PM

Good Luck Wayne! May good Car-ma bring her home..

Posted by: Wayne at Pelican Parts May 11 2018, 12:40 PM

Bingo. Baby is back home again! The full story is coming soon, but the moral of the story is "don't mess with Wayne". The fellow who stole it went back to jail (he was out on parole). The car has relatively minimal damage that I can see, although I have not been able to get it started (the ignition switch is all "screwdrivered up").



Full story coming soon...

Just to answer some of the questions in this thread. I had about $60K in the car, with $45K in recent work on the suspension, oil cooler, 3.2 teardown, 911 tranny conversion, etc. All it really needed was paint - everything else mechanically was sound. Amazing how much paint seems to count in values! The Fuchs are real Turbo wheels redone by Wiedman, etc.

This car had been neglected by me for a bit, but now that it's back home I'm going to start working on it again. Fiberglass bumpers and decklids will go to the paint shop (along with the metal ones too, just in case I change my mind). I would like to make it into a semi-similar clone of this one: https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/PA18/Paris/lots/r0003-1970-porsche-9146-gt/545803 It's already about 90% of the way there!

-Wayne

Posted by: sb914 May 11 2018, 01:40 PM

You must be super stoked! Congratulations!

Posted by: Dion May 11 2018, 01:52 PM

Nice to hear of a happy ending. Glad for ya Wayne!

Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 11 2018, 02:26 PM

Awesome, glad it's finally home!

Posted by: pete000 May 11 2018, 02:37 PM

Hope you didn't have to buy it back from the auction house !

Posted by: Steve May 11 2018, 03:28 PM

Congrats!!! Looking forward to seeing it at a Pelican Cars & Coffee!!

Posted by: Coondog May 11 2018, 03:36 PM

Good news times 2 this week concerning stolen 914s.......

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 11 2018, 03:51 PM

Great that you were reunited with the car Wayne, wonderful end to a bad story. The parolee will no doubt be back at his craft shortly as we have this wonderful Gov Brown prop 47 " Catch + Release " criminal policy here in California. Mostly crimes that involve no Firearms, no Homocides, etc. are just Catch, do a couple weeks in a low security jail and Release back on the streets. Rant over

Posted by: Ferg May 11 2018, 04:52 PM

Posted by: Millerwelds May 11 2018, 04:57 PM

Sooooooo glad to see this. Congrats! Happy times for a couple of stolen/returned 914's this week.

Posted by: Mark Henry May 11 2018, 07:34 PM

Posted by: euro911 May 11 2018, 07:40 PM

That's great news, Wayne

Posted by: euro911 May 11 2018, 07:57 PM

Who's was the other one?

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 11 2018, 10:12 PM

The blue one that was stolen on its trailer.

--DD

Posted by: Tdskip May 12 2018, 09:26 AM

Glad I did not bid!

Congratulations Wayne

Posted by: Edward Blume May 12 2018, 09:54 AM

Glad to see it home.