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Posted by: cgnj May 20 2016, 02:15 PM

My last update.

I contacted Neil. He is certain the tunacan will fit in a small flat rate box. If you paid too much, I will reimbuse you for the difference.

This is the current pricing.
Tunacan $56.17
Tacoplate $39.73
Tunacan cover $28.77
Shipping/insurance across pond = $3.43 per unit.
US shipping looks to be a small flat rate box $6.80
Paypal to 7394teen@gmail.com. I am placing this order tommorrow 7/6/2016 @ 12:00 edst.

Thanks for your patience

Carlos





I have contacted each person who PMed or posted to this date. If I missed you I apologize, please PM me.

I realized that with the brexit vote, the exchange had a chance to turn to our favor.
Waiting saved 8%.

This is the current pricing with todays exchamge $1.37=1 GBP
I am at 13 of each piece. I do't think it will be possible to reach the next discount level, which would required 25/unit.


Tunacan $56.17
Tacoplate $39.73
Tunacan cover $28.77
Shipping/insurance across pond = $3.43 per unit.

My zip is 19111. You can I expect a med flate rate box is required if you order a tunacan, otherwise a small flat rate will work. It is easier for you to calc your own US shipping.


PM me if you are a last minute buyer. I will forward my paypal to you and confirm the pricing with you.

Please don't post here, PM me. Please don't make me do your math. I have a headache already.

As soon as I hit 50% I am ordering. Hopefully I'm not eating them.

Carlos








Hi,
You may remember the billet tuna can group buy. I have been in contact with Neil and he would be willing to offer it again.
He also offers a Taco plate. He sent me his newest catalog and it is attached here.
I have no idea what the pricing will be, depends on volume, but at least shipping will be less.

Carlos  Engine_parts_catalogue___Type_4___rev.01.pdf ( 121.27k ) Number of downloads: 744

Update, I believe that I have enough commitments to reach the following pricing I believe im am at 10 for tuna can, tunacan cover and tacoplate. I think it will be pretty tough to reach 25 of any particular piece.

tuna can @ £41=$59.60 at todays exchange
tuna can cover @ £21=30.51
Taco plate @ £29=42.13

There will be shipping, and possibly duties, I'm not aware of what they will be at the moment. Figure a small/med flat rate box, Plus a share of getting the box over the pond.

I will contact each of you who has expressed interest to this point. I will keep this alive till 6/12.

Again, Please PM me if you are interested. I may miss contacting you.


Carlos

Posted by: StratPlayer May 20 2016, 02:40 PM

I was in on the last group buy, the products are outstanding, especially the taco plate.

Posted by: RoadGlue May 20 2016, 02:47 PM

I'm interested, but would need a price to commit.

Posted by: Mueller May 20 2016, 02:50 PM

I was going to make these at one time and was told by MarkD that some folk had issues with aluminum being too good of a heat sink in that application?

Posted by: RoadGlue May 20 2016, 02:52 PM

Too good of a heat sink? Please elaborate. In my head a heat sink is another place for heat to be radiated away which is normally a good thing. I must be missing something. :-)

Posted by: cgnj May 20 2016, 04:02 PM

I can already tell that this is the only time I will do this. I am going to purchase 2 of each no matter how many peeps join. I have no idea what the goal number is for the best deal.

Well, I'm not a engineer, but I'm guessing that the delta specifc heat of this Al disk vs. the stock disk isn't going to have a material effect on the resolution of your 40 year old guage and sender and at some point it will reach equilbrium, and have no effect on your guage at all.
I paid big bucks for for two engineering degrees, should I make the kids do the the math?
Carlos

Posted by: bdstone914 May 20 2016, 07:13 PM

I was going to make these at one time and was told by MarkD that some folk had issues with aluminum being too good of a heat sink in that application?
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Too good of a heat sink? Please elaborate. In my head a heat sink is another place for heat to be radiated away which is normally a good thing. I must be missing something. :-)
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I think that what mean the the AL dissipates heat better than steel an will influence the temperature of the sender which screws into it giving a low reading. Even if it is off 10-20 degrees you are looking for temperatures out of the norm. Remember the original have a cover on the plate to protect the sender from air that would cool it and send low readings.
Bruce

Posted by: PotterPorsche May 20 2016, 09:15 PM

Im interested

Posted by: barefoot May 21 2016, 06:05 AM

For the Tuna can, more heat dissipation would be a good thing. Note how the bottom of the engine case is finned, part of that reasoning is the same dissipation.
If i build a tuna can (i just might) I'd put external fins on it for more heat transfer.

Posted by: jim_hoyland May 21 2016, 06:09 AM

Excellent quality products; both my tuna can and temp sender plate have been trouble free

Posted by: saigon71 May 21 2016, 06:23 AM

After battling a leaking taco plate for years, I got in touch with Neil and bought his billet taco plate for my fresh 2056.

I'm completely impressed with the fit & quality. Most importantly...no leaks!

Posted by: Mr.Nobody May 21 2016, 02:08 PM

I'm interested. Was already considering one in the near future.

Posted by: billh1963 May 22 2016, 04:38 AM

I would be interested as well!

Posted by: RobW May 22 2016, 07:14 AM

I'm interested as well....

Posted by: McMark May 22 2016, 08:29 AM

One of my customers installed a stock oil temp sensor in a stock oil temp mount (taco plate), but without the outer cover piece. So the sensor hex portion was exposed to air flow. He installed a styrofoam cover as a quick test and noticed a significant difference in the temperature reading. The airflow directly on the sensor hex portion was cooling it enough to make the reading inaccurate. Adding an aluminum taco plate would exacerbate the problem. The plate would cool the sensor significantly and your oil temps would read low. You could get away with an aluminum taco plate if you found a sensor that was insulated from the mount (a plastic housing, instead of brass, for example).

Heat being radiated away is a good thing for the oil. And a bad thing for the sensor.

Posted by: struckn May 22 2016, 08:45 AM

FYI... I have a Tuna Can on mine and just wanted to let you know that when you get yours don't over tork the bolt. Just snug it on because you can easiely strip the threads in the case if you over tighten. Also compensate for the slightly more oil the Tuna can will add which will not be seen on the dip stick.

Posted by: jonesy May 30 2016, 07:25 AM

Thanks Guys!

Hello all and thanks for your interest.

Heres some figures for you;

Taco plate
£32 each for 1-4
£31 each for 5-9
£29 each for 10-24
£27 each for 25-49
£25 each for 50+

Tuna can
£45 each for 1-4
£43 each for 5-9
£41 each for 10-24
£39 each for 25-49
£36 each for 50+

Shipping
£8 for 1 Part
£2 for each additional part up to 10 parts
£1 for each additional part over 10 parts

Shipping Insurance
£1 for each part for shipping insurance.


As an example if you order 10 taco plates and have them shipped to the same address they will work out to £31.60 each including shipping, which is less than the £32 for just the part. Or better still if i can make 25 for you then they will be £28.64 each including shipping. But for 50 they work out to just £26.32 each including shipping.

This is the same pricing as i offered for the last group buy. I really should have increased it as the shipping certainly stung me. That was my fault for not calculating in the insurance. So this time i have added it separately. i wouldn't want to ship a group buy without insurance so please bear in mind that the example prices from before will be increased by £1 each part to cover the shipping insurance.

Considering that the last group buy was over 3 years ago, a £1 increase (that should have been on there 3 years ago anyway) is a pretty good deal for you guys.

I hope you think this is fair. I'm sure that you will be very happy with the parts you receive from me, if an order is placed.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: Hans Jan May 30 2016, 06:28 PM

I love to have one. Or maybe even one of each. But can some one explain what we mean with Tuna-can and Taco-plate?

Br,
Hans Jan

Posted by: jonesy May 31 2016, 01:57 AM

Taco plate pics and details; http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978324

Tuna can pics and details; http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=978326

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: jonesy May 31 2016, 02:03 AM

I should have also added the Tuna can oil sump cover plate (item 5 on the catalogue that Carlos kindly attached)

£23 each for 1-4
£22 each for 5-9
£21 each for 10-24
£19 each for 25-49
£17 each for 50+

Posted by: dlee6204 May 31 2016, 05:03 AM

I'm interested in one as well.

Posted by: maf914 May 31 2016, 06:24 AM

I am in for a taco plate if this happens. Thanks.

Posted by: mapguy May 31 2016, 10:53 AM

Put me down for one of each.

Posted by: CMONNETT May 31 2016, 02:23 PM

I'd be in for a set also.

Thanks,

Posted by: euro911 May 31 2016, 05:17 PM

I, along with Chris' (CFR) much appreciated help, conducted the previous group buy. I now have 3 tuna cans and 1 taco plate. The temperature sensor is shrouded (recessed) in the taco plate to help with the anticipated air flow.

I haven't measured the temperature variances vs the stock taco plate, so I don't know how 'off' the gauge is at indicating the actual oil temperature. The engine case is also aluminum, so I doubt the temperature difference would be that much to worry about.

Now, I'm not an hydro engineer, and not well versed in these things, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn recently

Posted by: 914-300Hemi May 31 2016, 09:26 PM

I would be interested in one tuna can.

Posted by: jonesy Jun 1 2016, 02:56 AM

Yep, Mark and Chris arranged the last group buy. It seemed to work out well thanks to their efforts.

Sounds like you're a couple of taco plates short there mate

Posted by: euro911 Jun 1 2016, 04:12 AM

Hi Neil.

I originally ordered a tuna can and a taco plate for my car, but ended up buying two more tuna cans from other members who decided not to install them for some reason

My wife's car doesn't have a taco plate nor a temperature gauge, so she'll just get one of the tuna cans.


Hope you get another large order this go-around too, you offer up some nice products


I'm in for 3 of the oil sump cover plates (silver or black)

Posted by: jonesy Jun 1 2016, 05:07 AM

Cool! Thanks Mark

Posted by: Gint Jun 1 2016, 07:19 AM

I would like one of all three please. A tuna can, bottom plate and a taco plate.

Posted by: mapguy Jun 1 2016, 08:35 AM

I should clarify. "One of each" for me means a taco plate, tuna can, and bottom plate.

Thanks!!

Posted by: cgnj Jun 2 2016, 08:32 AM

Bump for updated info

Posted by: rmdinmd Jun 2 2016, 05:25 PM

I would be interested in one of each.

Posted by: housepumpinpc Jun 3 2016, 12:08 PM

Ok I'm in for two of each. Bought one from Neil about 2 yrs ago on my own. The quality is excellent. Be prepared to wait a minute to get it past customs but he will come thru.

Posted by: jonesy Jun 3 2016, 12:17 PM

The list is growing... thank you all for your interest

Posted by: jonesy Jun 10 2016, 05:05 AM

Anyone else? The more the merrier

Posted by: PotterPorsche Jun 19 2016, 02:56 PM

Updates ?

Posted by: euro911 Jun 19 2016, 04:48 PM

Carlos, are you going to have the entire order shipped to your location, then ship to the individual participants?

Most of the orders are small enough to fit into those small Priority Mail Flat-Rate boxes (+/- $6.00) ...

Posted by: enikolayev Jun 19 2016, 09:24 PM

Count me in for one of each.

Posted by: dtkennedy930 Jun 20 2016, 10:56 PM

I'd like a set of each as well.

D

Posted by: lonewolfe Jun 21 2016, 07:52 AM

I'd like one set with all three pieces.

Posted by: cgnj Jun 24 2016, 10:16 AM

Bump for Brexit sale.

Posted by: euro911 Jun 24 2016, 12:20 PM

Carlos, replying to your PM, a tuna can will fit in a small Priority Flat-Rate box ... don't need to ship in the more expensive Medium box.

My order only consists of (3) thin bottom plates for my existing tuna cans ... will easily fit into a small box as well.

Posted by: eric9144 Jun 24 2016, 01:03 PM

In for one oil sump cover plate please

Posted by: SKL1 Jul 4 2016, 03:50 PM

I'd be in for 2 of each if not too late...

Posted by: billh1963 Jul 4 2016, 07:33 PM

What's the latest update?

Have they been ordered?

Posted by: cgnj Jul 5 2016, 12:07 PM

Bump,

ordering tommorrow 7/6/2016

Posted by: enikolayev Jul 26 2016, 08:48 AM

Any updates?

Posted by: dlee6204 Jul 26 2016, 08:52 AM

Posted by: majkos Jul 26 2016, 10:03 AM

I'm in for Two sets!

Posted by: jonesy Jul 27 2016, 01:00 AM

Carlos placed an order with me on 7/24/16. I will complete the order and ship out asap.

Thank you very much to you all for your orders

And a big thanks to Carlos

Posted by: jonesy Jul 27 2016, 01:12 AM

Just sent you a PM!

If anyone else is coming late to this party then let me know quick and you can take the group buy parts prices but you will just have to pay full shipping price and have parts shipped direct to you.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: euro911 Jul 27 2016, 01:36 AM

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Posted by: billh1963 Aug 11 2016, 12:35 PM

Any updates?

Looking forward to my two tunacans, covers, and taco plates.

Posted by: jonesy Aug 12 2016, 05:31 AM

I'm working on them mate... i'll do them asap but i'll do them right so please allow me some time.
Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 25 2016, 06:43 AM

Any new updates? I'm starting to build my 2056 and need those parts soon.

Posted by: jonesy Aug 28 2016, 01:37 PM

They should be ready to send out this coming week.
Sorry for the delay guys. i had a family holiday booked in between getting these done that i didn't take into account.
Thanks for your patience.
Neil

Posted by: Mr.Nobody Sep 5 2016, 05:44 PM

Are these shipping out? Motor is built and breaking it in now. Would like to install when I change the oil.

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 6 2016, 02:22 PM

Any chance these will ship soon?

Posted by: cgnj Sep 8 2016, 10:14 PM

Hi,

I have pinged Neil regarding a delivery date. I will update here as soon as I hear from him.

For the people that have escalated their pay pal to dispute, I am returning your money tonight. Anyone else want to bail, please do so. I will eat them all if I have to.

I will never do anything like this again. I have been on this forum since before the 914club breakup. If anyone ever contemplates a group buy, I have advice that on how I would do it differently.

I cannot express how offended I am that someone would think that would take advantage of them.

I am at risk for the whole cost of this group buy. If Neil falls thru, I eat it. He came through on the last group buy. Let's face it, it is a low demand specialty product that he makes on order.

I guess I should have told my 85 year mother I couldn't come down to Fla to take care of her during her medical emergency.

Anyone else want to bail, dispute through pay-pal.

Carlos

Posted by: 396 Sep 8 2016, 11:48 PM

Sorry to hear of your concerns. I was in on the initial GB on this Tuna Can.

As for those that have initiated a disput via PayPal because they can't wait or think you've taken advantage of them for say $65.00 and can't stand loosing that amount. They simply should get another hobby...but that's just my opinion.
The forum participation have " evolve " . Some might say they trust everyone, but in reality...I don't think so.
Good luck finalizing this GB.
Just my .02....and no I have no skin with this GB...and yes, I've been here since the break up of the original club

Posted by: euro911 Sep 9 2016, 02:42 AM

Carlos, I don't envision disputing my payment and will allow Neil to fulfill this current GB order as he agreed to.

It took a while for the delivery of the initial [Tuna/Taco] GB that Chris (CFR) and I conducted a couple years ago, but Neil fulfilled his end of the deal just fine then.

Everybody who opted-in for this GB should stay the course ... no way Carlos should be taking a hit on this

Posted by: jonesy Sep 9 2016, 04:06 AM

I agree completely. No way Carlos should lose out here guys, he has helped you all out getting a bulk order together to save you money.

This order WILL be completed and shipped out. Have no concerns there. Thats the only way i work. i do apologise for any delays, i'm a one man band and life often puts hurdles in the way. We have to take them in our stride.

Please consider Carlos here and put a little faith back into a man's word.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Sep 9 2016, 08:01 AM

Staying the course and hope your is doing better.
Appreciate you doing this.

Posted by: BillC Sep 9 2016, 08:37 AM

If anyone does drop out, I'll take their set (all three pieces). Send me a PM with payment and availability details.

Thanks!

Posted by: eric9144 Sep 9 2016, 09:42 AM

I'm surprised and sorry to hear that people are bailing out and disputing PayPal Carlos. Its a group buy, from the UK, one man show, awesome product...

People, have some damn patience or don't jump in on this kind of thing!

Posted by: ajbuchok Sep 9 2016, 08:57 PM

If you get stuck holding an extra tuna can, I'll take it. Just PM me. I think most people understood this was a made to order part and it would take time. Shame people have made you feel this way. I for one appreciate your efforts.

Posted by: housepumpinpc Sep 12 2016, 01:01 PM

Sorry to hear that Carlos... Everybody assumes a risk on a group buy. Especially the facillitator and the guy making it. If you read my post these HIGH QUALITY PARTS take time to make, it has to pass customs, then Carlos has to send them out to us. Don't let them steal your joy.

Posted by: kid914 Sep 12 2016, 01:44 PM

Stupid newbie question.......what is this for what does it do??
Thanks

Posted by: housepumpinpc Sep 12 2016, 04:35 PM

You got more time than me...not stupid. It adds about 1/2 quarts of oil to your engine. The cover replaces the oil sump cover and the taco plate(or oil sender switch cover) is exactly that. All made from aluminum.

Posted by: kid914 Sep 12 2016, 04:57 PM

Thank you sir!
I might be in for one ....

Posted by: euro911 Sep 12 2016, 05:05 PM

The main purpose is to have a small vessel of oil at a lower pick up point rather than relying on the pick up point at the bottom of the engine case, thereby providing constant source to the oil pump. This helps to eliminate cavatation during hard cornering.

Posted by: Harpo Sep 12 2016, 05:17 PM

Mine arrived today

Posted by: euro911 Sep 12 2016, 07:39 PM

Cool, David.

Those who dropped out lost out




EDIT 9/13/16 3:25am:

How did you get yours before Neil shipped them, David?

Posted by: jonesy Sep 13 2016, 12:30 AM

The Group Buy parcel will be with UPS tomorrow.

Thanks for your patience and of course for your orders.

Cheers,
Neil

Posted by: euro911 Sep 13 2016, 04:26 AM

Thanks for the update, Neil

Posted by: cgnj Sep 13 2016, 07:41 AM

Hi, I know but don't feel free to say. Nothing nefarious.
David will have to speak up.

Posted by: jonesy Sep 13 2016, 07:50 AM

David placed a separate order outside of the group buy and paid full price for the part and shipping. It was for 1 part only and had no impact on the group buy.

Posted by: sb914 Sep 13 2016, 08:01 AM

Carlos ,I didn't get in on this, but if you have left-overs from the people who bailed, I'll step up,I may not use it but I'll take one anyways.

Posted by: housepumpinpc Sep 13 2016, 08:41 AM

Yep... That too!

Posted by: dtkennedy930 Sep 13 2016, 09:35 AM

I'm grateful. Coordinating group buys is pretty damn thankless, unfortunately. That being shared, proactive communication, especially when delays are anticipated, help maintain critical trust / confidence.

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 13 2016, 10:32 AM

Before you start calling names, a nice healthy dose of STFU might be in order while you hear the other side of the story.

As someone who wanted two of everything (to the tune of $290.16) I placed my order like everyone else and paid on June 27. Look back at this thread to see the updates.

On 8/25 I ask for an update. User activity (which, I assume, can be easily verified by Andy) showed that Carlos had not been on the forums since 8/16.

On 8/27 (with no one responding) I start a claim with paypal as follows:

8/27/2016 13:07 EDT - Buyer: Hi,Do you have an estimated delivery time on the parts? It has now been two months. If the parts are no longer available please refund my money.Bill

On 8/27 jonesy says they will ship next week.
On 9/5 another buyer asks for a status. I ask on 9/6.

At this point (IIRC) Carlos had still not been on the forum since 8/16. Having been down this road before, I'm getting the feeling this isn't going to end well.

On 9/6 (with no response) I file the following in paypal:

9/6/2016 16:03 EDT - Buyer: I have not received the parts I ordered nor have I had a response from the seller. Please refund my money.Thank you

Carlos finally posts on 9/9.

So, did I renege on the deal? No. I paid for the parts and waited for them. However, a lack of communication made me nervous. I am not blaming Carlos or anyone else..it is what it is. I will gladly accept the parts I originally ordered. However, if the sellers want to sell to someone else I understand.

I appreciate all those who were not involved proferring an opinion on the safety of my money

Why did I post this? So name callers with no skin in the game might exercise some restraint before they start their name calling.

Posted by: jonesy Sep 13 2016, 01:26 PM

That's fair enough and understandable from my point of view.

I hope there's no hard feelings for anyone on this.

The group buy was aimed to help people save money. i hope people don't fall out in doing so, as that would be a shame.

Neil

Posted by: billh1963 Sep 13 2016, 01:38 PM

I don't think there's any hard feelings at all.... except from a few who had no initial interest in the buy but now want to buy the leftovers while calling the people who initially fronted the money names.

As I said, I'm still happy to buy my original order (which was two of everything). If you guys would rather sell to someone else I'm good with that...either way.

We're just talking car parts...not life or death

Posted by: Harpo Sep 13 2016, 06:45 PM

I needed a custom part and didn't want to complicate the group order. The only reason I posted was to let you know that you would be receiving your parts soon

David

Posted by: cgnj Sep 15 2016, 10:56 AM

Hi,
Expect to ship these on Monday 9/26

Posted by: euro911 Sep 15 2016, 02:18 PM

Posted by: Steve Pratel Sep 23 2016, 11:16 PM

Looking forward to it!

Posted by: cgnj Sep 26 2016, 06:02 PM

This is my last post here. I need to let this thread die.
If you paid me, I emailed you from payments that I received from PayPal. Please respond via email. I am attaching a photo here.

Thanks to all who put up with me.


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Posted by: Mr.Nobody Sep 26 2016, 06:15 PM

Put up with??? No way man, you helped us out!!

Email responded to.

Thanks again for putting up with us!!

Posted by: euro911 Sep 26 2016, 09:37 PM

Carlos - Thanks for the update, and thanks for suffering through all of the GB turmoil ...

Posted by: wayner Sep 27 2016, 05:47 PM

If there are any leftovers I'll take a set

Posted by: PotterPorsche Sep 27 2016, 08:10 PM

So after placing my order on June 27 the and not heRing anything for the last 30 days I had to request a refund. Now 2 days after receiving my refund the items arrive .
I'm more than welcome to reissue as I waited so long.

Posted by: rmdinmd Oct 6 2016, 01:34 PM

got mine today very nice work.
thanks carlos

Posted by: euro911 Oct 6 2016, 10:04 PM

Mine arrived too

Thanks again, Carlos ... and Neil

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Oct 6 2016, 10:32 PM

Mine came in today.

Thank you very much Carlos.

Posted by: Steve Pratel Oct 7 2016, 12:32 AM

And then there are retards like me who send paypal of 96.66........... Gotta lay off the bourbon............ But when you work 14-16 hour days 6-7 days a week sometimes, it happens. My $2 is in route Carlos, looking forward to this!

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Oct 7 2016, 09:55 AM

I did that twice when I was filing my US citizen paperwork. I understand the first time but the second time I was still short $.50 and they would process till 100% payment was received. Of course I blame it on the alcohol also

Posted by: jonesy Dec 3 2016, 04:17 AM

Hello again to you all.

Hopefully you now all have the parts you wanted. Again, thanks Carlos.

It's completely off topic for both these parts and for 914's but its the background that brought me to this point today so i'm celebrating my business with some t-shirts.

I've put up an advert for them, hopefully in the correct section.

If you'd like to take a look and order a t-shirt from me then it would be a real pleasure to know that some of these shirts are being worn over the pond.

Heres the advert;
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=300087

Thanks again to you all for your orders in the past and if i can help again in the future please just let me know.

Neil

Posted by: stugray Dec 3 2016, 12:12 PM

Any more of those billet taco plates?

Posted by: jonesy Dec 3 2016, 12:24 PM

Yeah for sure. That's no problem

Posted by: stugray Dec 3 2016, 12:27 PM

Was that in response to my question?



If so, what next?

Posted by: jonesy Dec 3 2016, 12:29 PM

Yes that was in response to your question.

PayPal me to boatyardbuses@aol.com and I'll get one on the way to you.

£40 GBP including standard airmail. Not tracked.
£45 GBP including tracked and insured airmail.

Cheers.
Neil