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Posted by: PanelBilly May 28 2016, 10:49 AM
My skin is too thin for this job
Posted by: Mikey914 May 28 2016, 10:55 AM
Medford was great. Liked the AX, but could go either way.
If you do cone North, Pats Acres may be a good place?
Willing to help in any way I can.
Posted by: ConeDodger May 28 2016, 10:57 AM
Southern California.
Posted by: Tom_T May 28 2016, 11:18 AM
I think it's a good idea to alternate north to south - & whether there's a 3rd central at SoOR/NoCal thrown into the rotation, & if some consider San Fran/Central Coast a 4th location (last year IIRC), then it should move around to cover all locations so that the most folks can attend without the long drive to/from every time .... but eventually it need to come south again.
Since you're up in Kent WA, wouldn't a true northern (WA) location make sense, then 2018 should come to SoCal (& hopefully my resto wil be done by then ;-).
Thanx for taking it on! 
Tom
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Posted by: Steve May 28 2016, 11:27 AM
I would like to see a streets of willow event again. How long has it been? I am also bummed that I missed the Oregon event. Job and family prevents me from being an organiser, so I understand it has to go where people can organize it.
Posted by: JRust May 28 2016, 12:24 PM
Billy do it where you are comfortable. It is up to whoever steps up to plan. It is great to pick a location that is closer for everyone. Problem is even when you put it closer to people. Half of the close people still aren't going to go. So plan it in a cool place that you know. If it wasn't for the Medford track & doing an AutoX. I would have planned it in the Willamette valley. I know a lot of sweet roads & some beautiful site's.
Also if in WA plan it later than May. If I plan WCR again it will be later in the year. Odds of inclement weather decrease by a lot. Everyone will give their opinions but in the end. When you are organizing it. Do what makes sense for you while keeping everyone in mind. You won't get everyone to come. So plan a fun event when & where you want. 914 world will either be there in force or not. Whether you have 20 cars or 50. The weekend will be fun 
Posted by: rdauenhauer May 28 2016, 12:45 PM
Southern California.
Perhaps you should step up Rob.
Posted by: rhodyguy May 28 2016, 12:46 PM
Willows was '05. Fun time. Issaquah was nice but a long haul from anywhere other western wa. A full coastal drive hurts attendance either way. I think it was over 1k for Curt last weekend. Never, NEVER, plan anything in Washington until after the 4th of July. Chances for good weather improve. Chances....
Posted by: mgp4591 May 28 2016, 01:01 PM
I'm sorry I had to miss Medford this year - it looks like a great time was had because of great planning and participation.
I loved the coast last year and wouldn't mind further south on the coast too. I'm not familiar with previous destinations but my goal is not to miss another event anywhere close to me - just too cool to hang with everyone with like minds. Or out of their minds; whatever definition fits you!
Posted by: jim_hoyland May 28 2016, 01:37 PM
Shasta Lake ? Kart track in Redding....may require a connection though.
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Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 May 28 2016, 01:38 PM
I think it's a good idea to alternate north to south - & whether there's a 3rd central at SoOR/NoCal thrown into the rotation, & if some consider San Fran/Central Coast a 4th location (last year IIRC), then it should move around to cover all locations so that the most folks can attend without the long drive to/from every time .... but eventually it need to come south again.
Since you're up in Kent WA, wouldn't a true northern (WA) location make sense, then 2018 should come to SoCal (& hopefully my resto wil be done by then ;-).
Thanx for taking it on!
Tom
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The rotation for the last few years has been; PNW, SoOR/NorCal, SoCal and Tahoe. Regardless, its up to whomever steps up to be the planning committee.
Willows was '05. Fun time. Issaquah was nice but a long haul from anywhere other western wa. A full coastal drive hurts attendance either way. I think it was over 1k for Curt last weekend. Never, NEVER, plan anything in Washington until after the 4th of July. Chances for good weather improve. Chances....
It was 1100 miles for me. Southern Oregon is about the same as far as Late June for better weather but acquiring the track dictates that.
Posted by: Andyrew May 28 2016, 01:56 PM
Loved wcc05. Streets of willow was amazing and I would love to do that again.
If we could replicate that Itinerary I think that would be awesome!
Posted by: 914_teener May 28 2016, 04:04 PM
Food for thought.....
R66 from what I understand will be in So Cal next year.
I really liked the event in 05 and then last year in Cambria as some to the Northern Coast folks were there and it was fun to meet them.
I'd be willing to help down here in 2018.
Posted by: Andyrew May 28 2016, 05:21 PM
If R66 is going to be in socal then maybe Tahoe? That had probably some of the best driving views and roads to date, not to mention some great restraunts in south lake tahoe.
Or what about Yosemite? Some great roads and views around there. Mammoth lake has some reasonable hotels.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon May 28 2016, 05:46 PM
Billy do it where you are comfortable. It is up to whoever steps up to plan. It is great to pick a location that is closer for everyone. Problem is even when you put it closer to people. Half of the close people still aren't going to go. So plan it in a cool place that you know. If it wasn't for the Medford track & doing an AutoX. I would have planned it in the Willamette valley. I know a lot of sweet roads & some beautiful site's.
Also if in WA plan it later than May. If I plan WCR again it will be later in the year. Odds of inclement weather decrease by a lot. Everyone will give their opinions but in the end. When you are organizing it. Do what makes sense for you while keeping everyone in mind. You won't get everyone to come. So plan a fun event when & where you want. 914 world will either be there in force or not. Whether you have 20 cars or 50. The weekend will be fun
If you are going to step up and do the work (and it's a lot I'm told) then you should make it easy on yourself. Do it at your convenience and the rest of us will cope. By the way, here's the reason I didn't make it to the WCR this year. I flew it home the Thursday before the WCR. Loads of fun. Attached image(s)
Posted by: PanelBilly May 28 2016, 08:10 PM
Billy do it where you are comfortable. It is up to whoever steps up to plan. It is great to pick a location that is closer for everyone. Problem is even when you put it closer to people. Half of the close people still aren't going to go. So plan it in a cool place that you know. If it wasn't for the Medford track & doing an AutoX. I would have planned it in the Willamette valley. I know a lot of sweet roads & some beautiful site's.
Also if in WA plan it later than May. If I plan WCR again it will be later in the year. Odds of inclement weather decrease by a lot. Everyone will give their opinions but in the end. When you are organizing it. Do what makes sense for you while keeping everyone in mind. You won't get everyone to come. So plan a fun event when & where you want. 914 world will either be there in force or not. Whether you have 20 cars or 50. The weekend will be fun
If you are going to step up and do the work (and it's a lot I'm told) then you should make it easy on yourself. Do it at your convenience and the rest of us will cope. By the way, here's the reason I didn't make it to the WCR this year. I flew it home the Thursday before the WCR. Loads of fun.Now THAT'S a GOOD reason!
Posted by: PanelBilly May 28 2016, 08:15 PM
I think that The schedule and location should coordinate with the Porsche Parade that will be held in eastern Washington. Not part of the event. Can't have a direct connection to PCA stuff. That would be asking for trouble. I'm thinking an event that would be scheduled for the Teener owner to attend WCR on the way to Spokane our on the way back.
Posted by: ConeDodger May 28 2016, 09:42 PM
Southern California.
Perhaps you should step up Rob.
Really? I've done three of these with McMark. Perhaps I should step up?
Posted by: 76-914 May 28 2016, 09:50 PM
Billy do it where you are comfortable. It is up to whoever steps up to plan. It is great to pick a location that is closer for everyone. Problem is even when you put it closer to people. Half of the close people still aren't going to go. So plan it in a cool place that you know. If it wasn't for the Medford track & doing an AutoX. I would have planned it in the Willamette valley. I know a lot of sweet roads & some beautiful site's.
Also if in WA plan it later than May. If I plan WCR again it will be later in the year. Odds of inclement weather decrease by a lot. Everyone will give their opinions but in the end. When you are organizing it. Do what makes sense for you while keeping everyone in mind. You won't get everyone to come. So plan a fun event when & where you want. 914 world will either be there in force or not. Whether you have 20 cars or 50. The weekend will be fun
If you are going to step up and do the work (and it's a lot I'm told) then you should make it easy on yourself. Do it at your convenience and the rest of us will cope. By the way, here's the reason I didn't make it to the WCR this year. I flew it home the Thursday before the WCR. Loads of fun.Is that a Stits Playboy behind your plane? You gotta love the stall and spin recovery techniques on that new plane, Elliot. Congrats
Posted by: Rand May 28 2016, 09:56 PM
Here's the reason I didn't make it to the WCR this year. I flew it home the Thursday before the WCR. Loads of fun.
Nice. I want a ride.
Sooo... No excuse for next year?
Posted by: RobW May 29 2016, 07:41 AM
I agree with Jaime.. if you organize it, you choose the venue.
Posted by: green914 May 29 2016, 08:02 AM
Thank you Billy! Do what you think will work best.
Posted by: jmmotorsports May 29 2016, 10:53 AM
the best 914 events i have been to were the bbq's at garretts house a few years ago no motels or driveing for hundereds of miles to get there
jerry
Posted by: Heeltoe914 May 29 2016, 11:42 AM
If you are going to step up and do the work (and it's a lot I'm told) then you should make it easy on yourself. Do it at your convenience and the rest of us will cope. By the way, here's the reason I didn't make it to the WCR this year. I flew it home the Thursday before the WCR. Loads of fun. Whoever's planning, picks the location.. sometimes a location survey helps.Details Elliot.. Is that a 4 or 6? is that the original paint? Looks like the tires are oversized for the rim... and the wings are too long for the body
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Posted by: ClayPerrine May 29 2016, 01:33 PM
I think that The schedule and location should coordinate with the Porsche Parade that will be held in eastern Washington. Not part of the event. Can't have a direct connection to PCA stuff. That would be asking for trouble. I'm thinking an event that would be scheduled for the Teener owner to attend WCR on the way to Spokane our on the way back.
Why not get involved with PCA? The SIG will take care of the insurance and provide some money for the event. Talk to Bob Saville about it. He will help out.
And if it is in SoCal, Betty and I may be able to come out there. We can't do a 4 day drive to Oregon though.....
Posted by: rhodyguy May 29 2016, 01:58 PM
Co-ordinating around parade will make for 2 weeks away from home for some people. Just the hotel costs would be staggering. Food? Prohibitive. Gas and everything else? More expensive than a couple of weeks in Kehei Maui. Don't worry about the date just yest. Pick the location first.
Posted by: ClayPerrine May 29 2016, 02:17 PM
You don't have to coordinate with Parade to use the PCA resources. Just pick a location, and talk to Bob. The paperwork is easy, PCA then backs the event for insurance purposes, and they give you money!!!
Posted by: rhodyguy May 29 2016, 02:26 PM
I don't mean co-ordinating WITH PCA at all. Just the time frame for the WCR and the duration required to tie them together. May events up north can be weather dicey as demonstrated in Medford. Packing stocking caps, warm gloves and clothing aren't on most people's trip list unless they're going skiing. There were some cold folks last weekend.
Posted by: siverson May 31 2016, 06:29 PM
I would love to attend next year and NOT win the furthest distance award.
-Steve
Posted by: JRust May 31 2016, 09:09 PM
I would love to attend next year and NOT win the furthest distance award.
-Steve
Oh crap I still haven't sent your awards. Totally spaced it. I'm going to go get the box in my rig right now. Sorry 
Posted by: Larmo63 May 31 2016, 10:08 PM
I would love to attend next year and NOT win the furthest distance award.
-Steve
That WAS quite a drive, even in my truck.
Posted by: jmmotorsports Jun 1 2016, 02:24 AM
Southern California.
no californiaso cal guys can do what they want down there
Posted by: Mike D. Jun 1 2016, 09:12 AM
Southern California.
no californiaso cal guys can do what they want down there
Alright then...
Didn't see you at the central coast...
Posted by: Mike D. Jun 1 2016, 09:19 AM
I'm really bummed I missed 2016. I had a week long vacation planned. The date moved up earlier to get the track and my kids are still in school.
I know "waaa" for me, right. I chose to attend Route 66, 8 hours. I would have gone to Medford only 2 more. I also supported the event by giving all left overs from 2016.
Leamon, Don and I have another location for an event picked out. Maybe next year or the next. These event are alot of work.
Thank You Jaime for putting in the time this year.
Posted by: mgp4591 Jun 1 2016, 09:30 AM
I'm really bummed I missed 2016. I had a week long vacation planned. The date moved up earlier to get the track and my kids are still in school.
I know "waaa" for me, right. I chose to attend Route 66, 8 hours. I would have gone to Medford only 2 more. I also supported the event by giving all left overs from 2016.
Leamon, Don and I have another location for an event picked out. Maybe next year or the next. These event are alot of work.
Thank You Jaime for putting in the time this year.
Where are you thinking of, Mr. Walrus face?
Posted by: don-6 Jun 1 2016, 09:37 AM
The last WCR events have been Medford, Lake Tahoe, Cambria, Medford.
Rotating the event gives the opportunity for more to attend, while splitting distances that we have to travel.
Holding the event in the extreme North means you will lose most of the California drivers.
If it were held in San Diego, we would lose most of the PNW drivers.
The WCR has always been a West coast event.
Maybe it will split and become two separate events, but I hope not.
I enjoy meeting members from outside my local area.
Posted by: rdauenhauer Jun 1 2016, 09:49 AM
So what.... Vancouver BC is out of the question?
Posted by: 914_teener Jun 1 2016, 09:59 AM
So what.... Vancouver BC is out of the question?
Snarkyness.....oh my.
I will help Bill if you decided to do it in So Cal.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 1 2016, 10:10 AM
That was my point. Southern California is due.
Perhaps a return to the Streets of Willows.
We have time to see if a So Cal committee volunteers.
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 1 2016, 11:24 AM
Leamon, Don and I have another location for an event picked out. Maybe next year or the next. These event are alot of work.
Thank You Jaime for putting in the time this year.
WCR2015 was fantastic and I'll make sure to attend if you guys do another one in that general area. Kent
Holding the event in the extreme North means you will lose most of the California drivers.
If it were held in San Diego, we would lose most of the PNW drivers.
The WCR has always been a West coast event.
Maybe it will split and become two separate events, but I hope not.
I enjoy meeting members from outside my local area.
I would like them to be in Temecula every year.
I think rotation of the site allows some members to attend an event that might not be within their reach, otherwise. Just as I cannot make the events in Wa or OR there are those that cannot will not make a 2 day drive. Wouldn't it be great if we could attend all of them.
So what.... Vancouver BC is out of the question?
I will help Bill if you decided to do it in So Cal.
Me too!
Posted by: JRust Jun 1 2016, 02:17 PM
I'm really bummed I missed 2016. I had a week long vacation planned. The date moved up earlier to get the track and my kids are still in school.
I know "waaa" for me, right. I chose to attend Route 66, 8 hours. I would have gone to Medford only 2 more. I also supported the event by giving all left overs from 2016.
Leamon, Don and I have another location for an event picked out. Maybe next year or the next. These event are alot of work.
Thank You Jaime for putting in the time this year.
Wish your crew could have made it up this year Mike! While the weather could have been better. It was still a great weekend. The track day a blast was had by all. Could have run a little smoother. Took them a while to have us out on the track. All in all though that track makes Medford a lock every few years.
I love that track & am considering trying to setup an annual 914 autoX weekend there. It would be a summer event to be sure. Just a thought at this point though.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 1 2016, 02:29 PM
The AX weekend sounds like a very good idea as a stand alone event.
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 1 2016, 02:37 PM
100% down.
Already have my room reserved!
I plan on going up there a couple of times a year.
Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 1 2016, 02:58 PM
There's so much to offer if we hang out in the south Puget Sound area. Griot's Garage will surely offer up some fun as well as LeMays car collection. I know the fellow who put together the personal collection for LeMays and might be able to get us a tour. We have 2 local tracks but my connection to the one is weak and I don't know anyone at the other. Still need to do some homework.
No decisions yet. It's all just food for thought
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 1 2016, 03:10 PM
What are your thoughts on where to base out of?
Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 1 2016, 03:31 PM
That's a pretty long drive for us low landers down here.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jun 1 2016, 07:02 PM
That's a pretty long drive for us low landers down here.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 1 2016, 07:57 PM
Lots of beautiful country up there.... The WCR in Issaquah was one of the most spectacular events to date; Port Gamble, Mount Ranier.
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Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 1 2016, 08:14 PM
What are your thoughts on where to base out of?
No thoughts yet
Posted by: ben*james Jun 1 2016, 08:24 PM
I'd definitely travel to northern Washington for a 914 event and I'd bring at least a few peeps with me!
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 1 2016, 09:43 PM
Maybe it is time to split up WCR? Since there has been a nice increase in PNW activity it makes sense to have you guys get your own activities.
CCR (California Classic Ramble)
PNWR (Pacific North West Ramble)
If you guys are keen on splitting it up then I think that would allow for twice as much west coast events and more involvement for the "geographically challenged" individuals.
Thoughts?
Posted by: VegasRacer Jun 1 2016, 09:58 PM
Build it, and they will come. 
Posted by: RobW Jun 1 2016, 10:56 PM
Build it, and they will come.
Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 1 2016, 11:03 PM
I would love to drive up to Washington. That would be incredible and I'd try to commit. The North/South combo idea leaves it open to somebody doing one or the other, or both.
Posted by: jcd914 Jun 1 2016, 11:45 PM
Maybe it is time to split up WCR?
IMHO splitting WCR is not a great idea.
Part of the draw is the different areas and people we meet.
Also a big event has a draw of it's own and splitting it will likely result in 2 smaller events.
Jim
Posted by: mgp4591 Jun 2 2016, 12:01 AM
I would love to attend next year and NOT win the furthest distance award.
-Steve
Oh crap I still haven't sent your awards. Totally spaced it. I'm going to go get the box in my rig right now. Sorry Or the t-shirts and license plate frames...
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 2 2016, 02:05 AM
The main reason it has not been in SoCal is that no one has stepped up to organize it.
You really need to be in the area to effectively organize it. San Simeon was nice, we drove down. I think most will go either way, but anyone down south want to organize it?
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 08:21 AM
The main reason it has not been in SoCal is that no one has stepped up to organize it.
You really need to be in the area to effectively organize it. San Simeon was nice, we drove down. I think most will go either way, but anyone down south want to organize it?
There was a group last year who stepped up too late, and there is a group this year. Billy just up and claimed it 4 days after this years event was over.
that's not how this works...
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 2 2016, 08:26 AM
Are there rules? Exactly how does it work?
Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 2 2016, 08:59 AM
I'll step aside and it's yours to have. Just say you want it
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 09:05 AM
Are there rules? Exactly how does it work?
More like protocols... It's interesting but unprecedented having someone step up 4 days post event. Although, I think Mark Whitesell stepped up very early for the Dalles event. Maybe even at the previous event IIRC. No one thought he was serious until he actually had a framework plan in September. That isn't the case here.
The admin who has been most WCR involved has been very - very busy. In fact, he might not even care he's so swamped. Usually there's some discussion and consideration of a couple sites. But to say that the SoCal guys don't want to step up is simply not true. It's just so early that they aren't ready to come out...
As for Puget Sound, it's just too far for most of us. You can throw the 'look at Rick and Sandy thing out' (and I'm sure someone will) but Rick and Sandy aren't the metric by which most attendees can be measured. They simply aren't going to drive that far. Heck, Yopu decided two days before the event this year that she didn't want to go to Medford and it is just a 4:15 drive.
If you can't put together a framework plan and present it in September or so and you just want to 'claim' the event now, good luck, I'm out. I can't do a day and a half of driving on both sides of the event just for two days and a BBQ.
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 2 2016, 09:31 AM
I'm out!!!
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 2 2016, 10:23 AM
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Mike Bellis and I were discussing 2018
Posted by: Chris914n6 Jun 2 2016, 10:52 AM
I'm not against 2 events as long as they are at least a month apart, including Rt66.
I'd love to visit Oregon, but it's a full days drive up, and a full days drive back, for 2 days of play. I could justify it if I split the driving days and make a leisurely vacation out of it, but that depends on other factors.
Socal is a no brainer, 8 hours is fine, 10 and I'm beat.
Back-to-back in Oregon is not what I would like to see, but it all depends on who volunteers to organize.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 10:52 AM
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Mike Bellis and I were discussing 2018
Apparently, you should be discussing 2017! :blink
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 10:54 AM
I'm not against 2 events
as long as they are at least a month apart, including Rt66.I'd love to visit Oregon, but it's a full days drive up, and a full days drive back, for 2 days of play. I could justify it if I split the driving days and make a leisurely vacation out of it, but that depends on other factors.
Socal is a no brainer, 8 hours is fine, 10 and I'm beat.
Back-to-back in Oregon is not what I would like to see, but it all depends on who volunteers to organize.
Umm Chris? Puget Sound is a whole State away from Oregon. Like 5 hours or so North?
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 2 2016, 11:08 AM
Wrong. Roughly 2 hours.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 11:26 AM
Wrong. Roughly 2 hours.
Kevin,
It's 12 hours from me and more than 7 from Medford. When I say 5, I'm figuring Portland or so...
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 2 2016, 11:32 AM
Depends on the puget sound location. The body of water in question is approx 100 miles long and runs from Olympia to deception pass.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 11:39 AM
Depends on the puget sound location. The body of water in question is approx 100 miles long and runs from Olympia to deception pass.
That doesn't really take much off my 12 hours but...
Convince us Kevin. I am having a hard time with the giving up because everyone doesn't agree.
Posted by: JRust Jun 2 2016, 02:01 PM
It is about who steps up to organize the event! We will never please everyone! Most the people who will piss & moan about where it is. Are not going to bother to come anyway even if it's 2 hours from their house. Riverside is a good 15+ hour drive for me from Corvallis. WCR is never going to be in a convenient location for everyone. I've pulled a 3500 mile trip going to Albuquerque for Route 66 round trip. I am nowhere in Rick's league for the longest traveled. Only WCR I have missed in the last 8 years was Monterey. San Simeon last year was awesome. It was also a good 13 hour drive for me one way. It is neither convenient or cheap when you have to travel a long ways. It's not going to be in everyone's budget or fit into their schedule every year. So nobody needs to get upset & say they aren't coming a year before it is even planned. It is rare to have someone step up so soon after the event. I applaud Billy for wanting too. I hope we haven't run the idea out of his head forever with all the negativity. Billy has said he is out so it is in somebody else's court. (yes you pushed him out) So hopefully someone will step up to plan it. While I am not saying I won't go to So Cal. It will depend what is happening at the time. Like everyone else here. We have a life besides 914's. When someone plans it. I will see if I can come. World certainly isn't going to end if I can't make it 
As far as possibly splitting WCR. Hell no there is no reason too! Doesn't mean someone can't plan another event. I'm all for doing something in WA. Let's just call it the Pacific NW Rally or some other genius name. Realistically we probably won't draw any So Cal guys up for it. Doesn't mean if we have a dozen cars the weekend will suck. Adding another event may dilute some #'s for WCR but big deal. I've always seen WCR as the bigger event of the 3 I go to. I love Red Rocks & Route 66 too. They don't typically have the same draw of people or 914's as WCR. Even when we've had 10 cars I had a great weekend.
Anyway I'm curious to see who will step up. Reading this thread probably isn't going to be to inspiring
Posted by: dlkawashima Jun 2 2016, 02:20 PM
I'm out!!!
Bummer ... I was looking forward to one up in Washington.
Anyone who steps up to do the work to organize one of these events should be applauded ... just sayin'.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 02:43 PM
It is about who steps up to organize the event! We will never please everyone! Most the people who will piss & moan about where it is. Are not going to bother to come anyway even if it's 2 hours from their house. Riverside is a good 15+ hour drive for me from Corvallis. WCR is never going to be in a convenient location for everyone. I've pulled a 3500 mile trip going to Albuquerque for Route 66 round trip. I am nowhere in Rick's league for the longest traveled. Only WCR I have missed in the last 8 years was Monterey. San Simeon last year was awesome. It was also a good 13 hour drive for me one way. It is neither convenient or cheap when you have to travel a long ways. It's not going to be in everyone's budget or fit into their schedule every year. So nobody needs to get upset & say they aren't coming a year before it is even planned. It is rare to have someone step up so soon after the event. I applaud Billy for wanting too. I hope we haven't run the idea out of his head forever with all the negativity. Billy has said he is out so it is in somebody else's court. (yes you pushed him out) So hopefully someone will step up to plan it. While I am not saying I won't go to So Cal. It will depend what is happening at the time. Like everyone else here. We have a life besides 914's. When someone plans it. I will see if I can come. World certainly isn't going to end if I can't make it
As far as possibly splitting WCR. Hell no there is no reason too! Doesn't mean someone can't plan another event. I'm all for doing something in WA. Let's just call it the Pacific NW Rally or some other genius name. Realistically we probably won't draw any So Cal guys up for it. Doesn't mean if we have a dozen cars the weekend will suck. Adding another event may dilute some #'s for WCR but big deal. I've always seen WCR as the bigger event of the 3 I go to. I love Red Rocks & Route 66 too. They don't typically have the same draw of people or 914's as WCR. Even when we've had 10 cars I had a great weekend.
Anyway I'm curious to see who will step up. Reading this thread probably isn't going to be to inspiring
This is what I'm talking about. Pretty much from the second post people have gently tried to suggest that it is time to go South since it has been North for a few years. These people have been ridiculed. Rich D suggested that I "step up" forgetting that I have been part of organizing 3+ of these events.
"(yes you pushed him out)" Really? Someone disagrees with him and he says he's too thin skinned and quits? Guess what? Sometimes people don't agree. Adults work through that. I'm glad we got the quitting out of the way now and not when the hotel told him he couldn't have a BBQ in the parking lot sometime in January. Fuch me Jamie! It isn't negativity when people disagree with him or you. It's a different opinion. Really? Negativity? It's very early. I'm not the least bit worried about someone stepping up.
From the start people had a different opinion. They tried to get people to see that SoCal is overdue and that Washington State is too far for many of us. Billy didn't respond. If you're going to lead one of these things you have to respond. The people who did respond didn't have a constructive or persuasive comment just "so what." SoCal is a long way for us, or worse. Or he who steps up gets to choose. I get that. But it was 4 days after the last event. Could we maybe just wait and see if someone else steps up? If we use that logic model it will be in Anchorage because it's West Coast and Joe the Eskimo stepped up.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 2 2016, 02:57 PM
Come up anyways Dave. Wait til Later in the Summer. Curt and I have something cooking for August. Near the Columbia, but not the Dalles, in the heart of the cascades. Thermal hot springs, best 914 road (imho) in wash to get there, epic vistas and volcanoes.
Posted by: JRust Jun 2 2016, 03:36 PM
"(yes you pushed him out)" Really? Someone disagrees with him and he says he's too thin skinned and quits? Guess what? Sometimes people don't agree. Adults work through that. I'm glad we got the quitting out of the way now and not when the hotel told him he couldn't have a BBQ in the parking lot sometime in January. Fuch me Jamie! It isn't negativity when people disagree with him or you. It's a different opinion. Really? Negativity? It's very early. I'm not the least bit worried about someone stepping up.
From the start people had a different opinion. They tried to get people to see that SoCal is overdue and that Washington State is too far for many of us. Billy didn't respond. If you're going to lead one of these things you have to respond. The people who did respond didn't have a constructive or persuasive comment just "so what." SoCal is a long way for us, or worse. Or he who steps up gets to choose. I get that. But it was 4 days after the last event. Could we maybe just wait and see if someone else steps up? If we use that logic model it will be in Anchorage because it's West Coast and Joe the Eskimo stepped up.
There was plenty of negativity about it being up north. I again said it's up to whoever steps up to organize it. I never said it was the first person to say I'm doing it. I think there was enough negative comments that if I were Billy. I would not feel the inclination to plan it any year up in WA. Let alone this next year. Again that is my opinion. So yes he bailed to let someone else do it down south. Doesn't mean he is a quitter ROB! Just means he saw in the post there wasn't much optimism for having it in WA period. Which I get by reading this thread too.
Maybe Rob you need to read my post again. I have no problem if people disagree with me. I don't care who is organizing it next or where it is. I will do my best to go. Just hoping someone steps up to do so. That in the past has taken some doing. Finding people to step up & want to host. I guess I need to use more smiley's in my post
I 
you all 
, Can't wait to see where it will be next year 
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 04:11 PM
"(yes you pushed him out)" Really? Someone disagrees with him and he says he's too thin skinned and quits? Guess what? Sometimes people don't agree. Adults work through that. I'm glad we got the quitting out of the way now and not when the hotel told him he couldn't have a BBQ in the parking lot sometime in January. Fuch me Jamie! It isn't negativity when people disagree with him or you. It's a different opinion. Really? Negativity? It's very early. I'm not the least bit worried about someone stepping up.
From the start people had a different opinion. They tried to get people to see that SoCal is overdue and that Washington State is too far for many of us. Billy didn't respond. If you're going to lead one of these things you have to respond. The people who did respond didn't have a constructive or persuasive comment just "so what." SoCal is a long way for us, or worse. Or he who steps up gets to choose. I get that. But it was 4 days after the last event. Could we maybe just wait and see if someone else steps up? If we use that logic model it will be in Anchorage because it's West Coast and Joe the Eskimo stepped up.
There was plenty of negativity about it being up north. I again said it's up to whoever steps up to organize it. I never said it was the first person to say I'm doing it. I think there was enough negative comments that if I were Billy. I would not feel the inclination to plan it any year up in WA. Let alone this next year. Again that is my opinion. So yes he bailed to let someone else do it down south. Doesn't mean he is a quitter ROB! Just means he saw in the post there wasn't much optimism for having it in WA period. Which I get by reading this thread too.
Maybe Rob you need to read my post again. I have no problem if people disagree with me. I don't care who is organizing it next or where it is. I will do my best to go. Just hoping someone steps up to do so. That in the past has taken some doing. Finding people to step up & want to host. I guess I need to use more smiley's in my post
I you all , Can't wait to see where it will be next year I'm sorry you see negativity. I wish you'd point it out because while I agree, there wasn't too much support for a Washington event, I don't see that as being negative. That is just people sharing their disappointment at an event so far from home. This event is a long way off. There is no reason to panic. Someone will step up.
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Jun 2 2016, 04:28 PM
, That's a triple BS flag
Jezus H. Crips Rob. . . Wasn't it YOU who was saying that Billy (or was it Greenie) had volunteered to host the next WCR that last night in Medford?? Quit acting like a kid who got his crayons broke because you *may* have to drive more than 5 hours to a WCR!! If it's too far for ya, do what the rest of us do: DON'T GO!! You won't find me driving all the way to SoCal, but you also won't find me bitchin' like a baby about it either. . .
Hell, I got half a notion to host the next one up near Blaine, WA just 'cause you're bitchin'!!
Rant over. Back to herding cats. . .
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 04:44 PM
, That's a triple BS flagJezus H. Crips Rob. . . Wasn't it YOU who was saying that Billy (or was it Greenie) had volunteered to host the next WCR that last night in Medford?? Quit acting like a kid who got his crayons broke because you *may* have to drive more than 5 hours to a WCR!! If it's too far for ya, do what the rest of us do: DON'T GO!! You won't find me driving all the way to SoCal, but you also won't find me bitchin' like a baby about it either. . .
Hell, I got half a notion to host the next one up near Blaine, WA just 'cause you're bitchin'!!
Rant over. Back to herding cats. . .
Wasn't me, and I'm not bitchin. I would not go to either Blaine WA or Puget Sound but that isn't what I'm talking about anyway. I, and others are saying that it's time for the event to go back to Southern California. (Cambria is Central Coast so, not Southern California) That seems to be getting lost in this. We aren't saying Whaaa! we won't go, even though it is true, I wouldn't. We are saying that returning to Southern California has been discussed for years and we'd like to give that a chance and since it's so early why don't we give that a chance?
Let's not lose the point. I already said if it were in Washington, I wouldn't go. I did it without bitchin' as you say. The point is - it needs to move back to Southern California and there are people willing to host.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jun 2 2016, 04:59 PM
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Mike Bellis and I were discussing 2018
Looks like we're up...
Possibly at Mammoth Lake...
WCR 2017 Mammoth Yosemite
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 05:19 PM
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Mike Bellis and I were discussing 2018
Looks like we're up...
Possibly at Mammoth Lake...
WCR 2017 Mammoth Yosemite
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 2 2016, 06:47 PM
Whatcom county is nice.
Posted by: dlkawashima Jun 2 2016, 06:49 PM
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Mike Bellis and I were discussing 2018
Looks like we're up...
Possibly at Mammoth Lake...
WCR 2017 Mammoth Yosemite
Sounds like fun ... never been to Mammoth Lakes.
Posted by: matthepcat Jun 2 2016, 06:53 PM
Mammoth / Yosemite ....awesome!
Posted by: Mike D. Jun 2 2016, 07:44 PM
WOW, That got out hand pretty quick. AND BTW, 3 guys from So.Cal. Stepped up for the 2015, and not too late. It was on the Central Cal. Coast, not in So. Cal. - Joe in So.Cal ran one year, Howard in So.Cal did another.
I think splitting the event is a bad idea.
See you in Mammoth!
Posted by: 914_teener Jun 2 2016, 07:46 PM
WOW, That got out hand pretty quick. AND BTW, 3 guys from So.Cal. Stepped up for the 2015, and not too late. It was on the Central Cal. Coast, not in So. Cal. - Joe in So.Cal ran one year, Howard in So.Cal did another.
I think splitting the event is a bad idea.
See you in Mammoth!
GROUP HUG. You know you want to!
I've got FI.....so I'm good in Mammoth
Posted by: greenie Jun 2 2016, 08:45 PM
Mammoth / Yosemite ....awesome!
15 or 16 hours from Issaquah, I've never been to Mammoth Lakes, I'd say it's doable!
Just give me a few hours to rest up before the first drive. 
Posted by: Rand Jun 2 2016, 10:23 PM
Mammoth & Yosemite would be awesome. Just understand the planning and logistics that are necessary around the tourism that overloads those places when the snow doesn't stop people from getting there. It can be overwhelming for one car to deal with, I can't imagine trying to manage a group there ahead of time when you can't know what the weather vs the crazy amount of tourist overload is going to bring far enough in advance. Just to clarify, I'm only saying this because I've seen the craziness up there, not because I wouldn't love to see it happen. Certainly one of the most amazing areas on the west coast! Well sort of not terribly far from the coast anyway. 
I've been to several WCR events and have loved them all. A few favorites were Seattle, Portland, Medford, Tahoe, Monterey (Laguna Seca was awesome!) I haven't been to one in SoCal yet, but that just sounds like a good reason to want to experience it! I've missed some because of distance, but that's ok. Because it's one west coast event, it still feels like family and an epic event when we do make it. Smaller numbers just don't bring the same experience. Splitting it up sounds kind of sad. Heck, might as well just go to local cars and coffee events in that case so we can tell Mustang stories at the next one.
Posted by: JRust Jun 2 2016, 10:31 PM
WOW, That got out hand pretty quick. AND BTW, 3 guys from So.Cal. Stepped up for the 2015, and not too late. It was on the Central Cal. Coast, not in So. Cal. - Joe in So.Cal ran one year, Howard in So.Cal did another.
I think splitting the event is a bad idea.
See you in Mammoth!
You guys did awesome too! Where are you going to do it this year
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 2 2016, 10:35 PM
Seriously people. We haven't been up north in many years and then we finally get someone who is interested to set something up and one mid-cal guy goes on a bitch fit about how long that drive would be for him and everything falls apart?
Really?
PS: I absolutely loved the drive up to Seattle when we had the WCR up there. We drove up the coast all the way from Oakland to Seattle. Spectacular drive!
Posted by: 72914wrx Jun 2 2016, 10:36 PM
WOW, That got out hand pretty quick. AND BTW, 3 guys from So.Cal. Stepped up for the 2015, and not too late. It was on the Central Cal. Coast, not in So. Cal. - Joe in So.Cal ran one year, Howard in So.Cal did another.
I think splitting the event is a bad idea.
See you in Mammoth!
You guys did awesome too! Where are you going to do it this year
If it's Yosemite I would love to help out that's in my back yard . Oakhuasrt is a great little town outside of Yosemite
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 10:59 PM
Seriously people. We haven't been up north in many years and then we finally get someone who is interested to set something up and one mid-cal guy goes on a bitch fit about how long that drive would be for him and everything falls apart?
Really?
PS: I absolutely loved the drive up to Seattle when we had the WCR up there. We drove up the coast all the way from Oakland to Seattle. Spectacular drive!
Wow! Again with the drive time. I do not care how long the drive is.Having been part of the planning for 4 out of the last 6, I happen to know that Southern California wants it back. All I said about the drive time is that I would not do it. Not the reason for any of this though. I simply can't. By the way, I am not a mid-cal guy.
Posted by: TC 914-8 Jun 2 2016, 11:05 PM
http://ridgemotorsportspark.com/
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Jun 2 2016, 11:06 PM
Seriously people. We haven't been up north in many years and then we finally get someone who is interested to set something up and one mid-cal guy goes on a bitch fit about how long that drive would be for him and everything falls apart?
Really?
PS: I absolutely loved the drive up to Seattle when we had the WCR up there. We drove up the coast all the way from Oakland to Seattle. Spectacular drive!
Wow! Again with the drive time. I do not care how long the drive is.Having been part of the planning for 4 out of the last 6, I happen to know that Southern California wants it back. All I said about the drive time is that I would not do it. Not the reason for any of this though. I simply can't. By the way, I am not a mid-cal guy.
Geez Rob. Are you bitch-fitting again?
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 11:12 PM
Seriously people. We haven't been up north in many years and then we finally get someone who is interested to set something up and one mid-cal guy goes on a bitch fit about how long that drive would be for him and everything falls apart?
Really?
PS: I absolutely loved the drive up to Seattle when we had the WCR up there. We drove up the coast all the way from Oakland to Seattle. Spectacular drive!
Wow! Again with the drive time. I do not care how long the drive is.Having been part of the planning for 4 out of the last 6, I happen to know that Southern California wants it back. All I said about the drive time is that I would not do it. Not the reason for any of this though. I simply can't. By the way, I am not a mid-cal guy.
Geez Rob. Are you bitch-fitting again?
shut up ElYut! Posted by: Andyrew Jun 2 2016, 11:13 PM
WOW, That got out hand pretty quick. AND BTW, 3 guys from So.Cal. Stepped up for the 2015, and not too late. It was on the Central Cal. Coast, not in So. Cal. - Joe in So.Cal ran one year, Howard in So.Cal did another.
I think splitting the event is a bad idea.
See you in Mammoth!
You guys did awesome too! Where are you going to do it this year
If it's Yosemite I would love to help out that's in my back yard . Oakhuasrt is a great little town outside of Yosemite
Oakhurst is also a top contender. The actual city is not 100% determined. Yosemite area however is 100%. Tourism is going to be an issue which is why going on the shoulder season say late August might be necessary.
Mammoth has a brewing company that would be great to hit and some decent hotels.
Yosemite valley floor is going to be impossible to get on for any decent price. The cheapest decent place is $250/night which is about $100 over the upper limit of the budget I was thinking. They do offer group discounts but I doubt we'll be able to get anything near what we need.
So thus the need for going on the outer cities.
Posted by: TC 914-8 Jun 2 2016, 11:15 PM
http://ridgemotorsportspark.com/
There's lots of fun between here and there
Mid June - early July
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 2 2016, 11:17 PM
WOW, That got out hand pretty quick. AND BTW, 3 guys from So.Cal. Stepped up for the 2015, and not too late. It was on the Central Cal. Coast, not in So. Cal. - Joe in So.Cal ran one year, Howard in So.Cal did another.
I think splitting the event is a bad idea.
See you in Mammoth!
You guys did awesome too! Where are you going to do it this year
If it's Yosemite I would love to help out that's in my back yard . Oakhuasrt is a great little town outside of Yosemite
Oakhurst is also a top contender. The actual city is not 100% determined. Yosemite area however is 100%. Tourism is going to be an issue which is why going on the shoulder season say late August might be necessary.
Mammoth has a brewing company that would be great to hit and some decent hotels.
Yosemite valley floor is going to be impossible to get on for any decent price. The cheapest decent place is $250/night which is about $100 over the upper limit of the budget I was thinking. They do offer group discounts but I doubt we'll be able to get anything near what we need.
So thus the need for going on the outer cities.
Andrew, have you considered the Nevada side? Small city with an airport for ElYut. Although the wind coming over the mountain makes it a tricky landing. Well, for me. Probably not ElYut. It's where a lot of the resort year-rounders live. Never noticed a hotel but since even Mark Whitesell flys in there, I imagine they do have one or two...
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 2 2016, 11:41 PM
MMH is an interesting airport. There is a lot on interesting geography.
But short of camping it will be expensive.
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Posted by: Chris914n6 Jun 3 2016, 01:50 AM
I don't see why we can't add a NWR. Seems to me the cars and members are there for a good turnout.
WCR early summer and NWR late summer?
Ironically I live in the middle of nowhere worth driving and have R66, RRC and half the time WCR within a reasonable distance.
I figure the more opportunities to play with our cars the better.
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 3 2016, 07:28 AM
Maybe the 2018 group should step up now so it doesn't end up Boise?
Mike Bellis and I were discussing 2018
Looks like we're up...
Possibly at Mammoth Lake...
WCR 2017 Mammoth Yosemite
Sweet!
Posted by: RobW Jun 3 2016, 07:54 AM
Whomever organizes it chooses.
Simple huh?
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 3 2016, 08:10 AM
Very.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 3 2016, 09:35 AM
I don't think the event should be split, and I'll wind up going either way. I do plan to host a drive in movie night later this summer in Newberg.
We can always have little sub events, I'm all for that, but one that brings us all together should be the WCR!
So other than Panel Billy, Has anyone else actually stepped up to want to organize 2017? In 4 months guys will be wanting to know when and where. If we have enough time we can put together fun things into the drives. Like the VW camper meet we visited with in Mopin, for the one I did.
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 3 2016, 10:39 AM
There will be some that are just too far away for us to attend but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I'm fine with a rotation if it means not splitting/diluting the event.
EDIT: For the record; I've already committed to help John with Rt66 2017 or I would volunteer my assistance with a SoCal WCR. On the other hand, I'm sure I could block out a few hours if needed.
Posted by: relentless Jun 3 2016, 12:31 PM
I vote for Southern Oregon! It's not too expensive, it's centrally located, it has a nice track, it has lots of great touring routes. And I bet we can get Jamie to organize it!
What do you say, wasn't this year great? The weather here is in the 90's now. The only rain was during the WCR!
Posted by: JRust Jun 3 2016, 12:35 PM
I vote for Southern Oregon! It's not too expensive, it's centrally located, it has a nice track, it has lots of great touring routes. And I bet we can get Jamie to organize it!
What do you say, wasn't this year great? The weather here is in the 90's now. The only rain was during the WCR!
In a few years possibly. WCR needs to move around. I would not consider doing it there again for 3 years. We need to rotate it around for sure. I'm fine going to SO Cal in 2017. With 2018 maybe in WA. I'm up for whatever as long as it doesn't include me planning it for a few years
Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Jun 3 2016, 12:55 PM
If by saying that its time for it to be in SoCal again", but no one from SoCal or anywhere else has planned or spoke up about planning it "in" SoCal for the last few years (which is why it's been in The Dalles, Medford, Tahoe, Monterey and Cambria). Doesn't that then mean it will be somewhere other than SoCal? Really, Shit in one hand and wish in the other, which one do you think will fill up first?"
I personally have been wanting for it to be in San Jose or SoCal but no one has taken that monumental task on for obvious and not so obvious reasons. When people ask me about this slice of "my life", I always tell them it moves between 4 states so far. California, Oregon, Washington and Nevada. If it is/was in Boise, I would probably go! Then we could add Idaho to the list.
As I stated earlier in this thread, the event is held wherever and by whomever steps up and throws their hat in the ring! people are going to whine about something or everything. Too damn bad!!! Plan it and they will come, if not than they will the next time!!!
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 3 2016, 01:44 PM
When people ask me about this slice of "my life", I always tell them it moves between 4 states so far. California, Oregon, Washington and Nevada. If it is/was in Boise, I would probably go! Then we could add Idaho to the list.
It was held one year in Rio Rancho, New Mexico too ...
Joe O'Brien of Series 9 sponsered the event and The Turtle Rock Brewery hosted the entire group. A great time was had by all...
Posted by: mgp4591 Jun 3 2016, 05:17 PM
The Yosemite solution sounds good to me and I'll be there. I'll be driving something from Utah and I don't qualify for the furthest driven, but it ain't next door either....
Maybe I just like driving...
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 3 2016, 05:46 PM
The only person with a short drive this time will probably be Rob with about 3 hours, followed by myself with about 4 and anyone else from the central valley.
If we change the location to Oakhurst it makes things even shorter and more accessible, not to mention cheaper. Also elevation will be less of an issue for the carb cars for the day to day getting around, but the scenery will be less spectacular and some of the cool ghost town stuff up north will probably be skipped.
I can guarantee there will not be a lacking of good driving roads for any option we pick. I plan on having a bunch of different routes for those that like to venture out and organizing a poker run or two.
Another option for a future event would be Chico/Redding. Thunderhill now has expanded there tracks and has a nice technical loop they can run separate from their big loop or combine the two, and there are plenty of fantastic roads around there that are just a hoot and a half, especially if you take the roads to the coast.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 3 2016, 06:25 PM
The only person with a short drive this time will probably be Rob with about 3 hours, followed by myself with about 4 and anyone else from the central valley.
If we change the location to Oakhurst it makes things even shorter and more accessible, not to mention cheaper. Also elevation will be less of an issue for the carb cars for the day to day getting around, but the scenery will be less spectacular and some of the cool ghost town stuff up north will probably be skipped.
I can guarantee there will not be a lacking of good driving roads for any option we pick. I plan on having a bunch of different routes for those that like to venture out and organizing a poker run or two.
Another option for a future event would be Chico/Redding. Thunderhill now has expanded there tracks and has a nice technical loop they can run separate from their big loop or combine the two, and there are plenty of fantastic roads around there that are just a hoot and a half, especially if you take the roads to the coast.
Chico/Redding is about 100+ degrees from late May to September. So, an earlier event?
Thunderhill is a lot of fun. I've done it many times and have a good relationship with NCRC one of the track day programs. The problem is everyone would have to be in a school group who hadn't done a track day before and the track day fee alone would be $125 - $150.
Oakhurst is beautiful with it's miles and miles of orchards...
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 3 2016, 06:26 PM
I just noticed Al Weidman is on this thread. The area around Oroville is amazing too...
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 3 2016, 06:29 PM
MMH is pretty remote, so hotel costs will be expensive.
Central cal, bay area, Santa cruz, San Jose may be more central, After all World HQ is in Oakland
Posted by: Steve Jun 3 2016, 06:38 PM
MMH is pretty remote, so hotel costs will be expensive.
Central cal, bay area, Santa cruz, San Jose may be more central, After all World HQ is in Oakland
I thought World HQ was one of them Internet Acumulis Cloud things!!
Or is it still a server under Sir Andys desk at home in Oakland?
Posted by: SirAndy Jun 3 2016, 06:42 PM
Or is it still a server under Sir Andys desk at home in Oakland?
Neither ...
We still have a physical server, no cloudiness for us, but that server is in a data center in Kansas City now.
Posted by: RobW Jun 3 2016, 06:43 PM
Wow! Thanks again Andy. You rock!
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 3 2016, 08:39 PM
MMH is pretty remote, so hotel costs will be expensive.
Central cal, bay area, Santa cruz, San Jose may be more central, After all World HQ is in Oakland
Hotel costs have been researched and I think there are reasonable options.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2016, 07:52 AM
The Pruneyard in Campbell was very nice. '04 iirc. Centrally located, LOTS to do, a day's drive (long, but not that bad) from both ends of the coast. That was the first BIG "Club" event. Epic. Laguna Seca lap. The LOUD near empty parking garage hill climb. Jeff and the crew that organized everything did a fantastic job.
Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 4 2016, 08:14 AM
The Pruneyard in Campbell was very nice. '04 iirc. Centrally located, LOTS to do, a day's drive (long, but not that bad) from both ends of the coast. That was the first BIG "Club" event. Epic. Laguna Seca lap. The LOUD near empty parking garage hill climb. Jeff and the crew that organized everything did a fantastic job.
I set off all the car alarms on all levels of that ramp. 
Kevin was the first 914 guy from the forum I ever met. JP was the second 
Yaroon was even there! Miss that guy. 
I think we've come close but never exceeded the 914 count from that event have we?
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2016, 08:24 AM
I don't think that car count has been bettered.
Posted by: McMark Jun 4 2016, 08:59 AM
Sheesh. All the theory and wish lists are great. But it doesn't matter. 98% of this thread is completely irrelevant. Somebody's gotta plan it. Very few people are brave/selfless enough to take it on.
If PanelBilly is willing to take the lead, everybody else should shut up. Even if you have the best intentions and life changing great ideas. Seriously. If you're not willing to take the LEAD on planning your voice is just noise in this conversation. I have thoughts of what I would like to see WCR be, but I'm not even going to say them because I'm not planning it, so my ideas are worthless.
I don't see anyone else chiming in. So PLEASE, lets support PanelBilly. 
If you're not posting to praise PanelBilly for being willing, don't bother posting. 
And if you love the PNW, post now (hey lurkers!) and throw some positivity into this thread.
Okay, lunch break is over. Back to the salt mines.
Posted by: ben*james Jun 4 2016, 09:13 AM
Sheesh. All the theory and wish lists are great. But it doesn't matter. 98% of this thread is completely irrelevant. Somebody's gotta plan it. Very few people are brave/selfless enough to take it on.
If PanelBilly is willing to take the lead, everybody else should shut up. Even if you have the best intentions and life changing great ideas. Seriously. If you're not willing to take the LEAD on planning your voice is just noise in this conversation. I have thoughts of what I would like to see WCR be, but I'm not even going to say them because I'm not planning it, so my ideas are worthless.
I don't see anyone else chiming in. So PLEASE, lets support PanelBilly.
If you're not posting to praise PanelBilly for being willing, don't bother posting.
And if you love the PNW, post now (hey lurkers!) and throw some positivity into this thread.Okay, lunch break is over. Back to the salt mines.
agreed!
Posted by: McMark Jun 4 2016, 09:32 AM
Apparently Mike Bellis and Andyrew might be stepping up? If they are, please post definitively so we can settle this out.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jun 4 2016, 10:07 AM
Apparently Mike Bellis and Andyrew might be stepping up? If they are, please post definitively so we can settle this out.
If Panelbilly is stepping down, we are stepping up. I have no problem bumping us to 2018 as that was our original plan. I will leave the final decision up to Panelbilly.
What say you?
Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 4 2016, 12:50 PM
Sorry Mark, I was just reminiscing with Kevin. I wasn't even wishing for another event at the Pruneyard although it was pretty cool... . Your right. Whom ever is planning it has my support when ever it is.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 4 2016, 01:18 PM
Agreed.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Jun 4 2016, 04:04 PM
please post definitively so we can settle this out.
I thought the cutoff date wasn't til Sept. Given the number of members WCR is important to, how about we just let things play out?
Let the voices be heard.
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 4 2016, 04:10 PM
please post definitively so we can settle this out.
I thought the cutoff date wasn't til Sept. Given the number of members WCR is important to, how about we just let things play out?
Let the voices be heard.
September is not enough time to get reservations for hotels on small/busy area's especially in the Yosemite valley area. Those start to fill up almost a year in advance.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Jun 4 2016, 04:17 PM
please post definitively so we can settle this out.
I thought the cutoff date wasn't til Sept. Given the number of members WCR is important to, how about we just let things play out?
Let the voices be heard.
September is not enough time to get reservations for hotels on small/busy area's especially in the Yosemite valley area. Those start to fill up almost a year in advance.
Then it sound's like Yosemite isn't the right place for this group to stay. Would be nice to drive thru though...
But I was just saying there is no reason to rush into a decision.
Posted by: McMark Jun 4 2016, 05:01 PM
Yosemite is fantastic but who cares? WHO is planning the the key. Do you think that if we 'pick' Yosemite someone is just going to pop out of the woodwork to plan it?
Sorry if I sound rude. I just don't understand why this is complicated.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 4 2016, 05:07 PM
Yosemite is fantastic but who cares? WHO is planning the the key. Do you think that if we 'pick' Yosemite someone is just going to pop out of the woodwork to plan it?
Sorry if I sound rude. I just don't understand why this is complicated.
Mike and Andrew with my help. Mammoth / Yosemite. Done...
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 4 2016, 05:32 PM
Yes Mike and myself have already volunteered. Since Billy is not stepping up to do a Washington event Mike and myself (and now Rob) are stepping up to host 2017.
If anyone else would like to help or be part of planning, please send me or Mike a PM.
If anyone has any connections to anything in the greater Yosemite area that they are willing to share, please pm me. (Im thinking restraunts, police, hotels, ect).
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 4 2016, 07:39 PM
I'm good however it works out
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jun 4 2016, 08:46 PM
I heard Marty Yeoman wants to help too...
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 4 2016, 10:12 PM
Sounds good
Posted by: Mike Bellis Jun 4 2016, 10:17 PM
I got an official PM from PanelBilly. He is out, we are in.
Looks like we have a good team to make this a great event. We will start scouting in a month or two. Possibly make some overnight trips to the target area. An official thread will be started as we get more organized.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 4 2016, 10:19 PM
I got an official PM from PanelBilly. He is out, we are in.
Looks like we have a good team to make this a great event. We will start scouting in a month or two. Possibly make some overnight trips to the target area. An official thread will be started as we get more organized.
I will ask Mark to set up a planning forum in the protected forum section...
Posted by: JRust Jun 4 2016, 10:40 PM
When you guys are setup & have paypal let me know. I'll have some WCR money to send you
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 5 2016, 07:01 PM
I can't wait. I finally will get to meet Yosemite Sam! I'm in for the trip
Posted by: matthepcat Jun 5 2016, 07:58 PM
Right on!
I got an official PM from PanelBilly. He is out, we are in.
Looks like we have a good team to make this a great event. We will start scouting in a month or two. Possibly make some overnight trips to the target area. An official thread will be started as we get more organized.
Posted by: Rand Jun 5 2016, 08:02 PM
I can't wait. I finally will get to meet Yosemite Sam!
I'm in for the tripJust be careful if that mother f***er shows up. He's got this thing about drink competitions and he's always trying to pull switches.
Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 5 2016, 09:36 PM
I was in that area earlier this month and had planned to head into Yosemite from the Mammoth side. On May 12th, Hwy 120 was closed so the park was inaccessible. I know the snowpack was heavy this year but it's something to factor into creating a schedule.
Also, I talked to a guy in Bishop who own a shop that works on a lot of air cooled stuff. Very knowledgeable. I'll try to find his contact info.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 5 2016, 11:45 PM
Pyramid Lake may make for some good pictures
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 6 2016, 12:00 AM
Pyramid Lake may make for some good pictures
Huh? Pyramid is no where near Mammoth Mark... It's out by Black Rock and the Burning Man Site.
Mono Lake?
Posted by: Steve Jun 6 2016, 12:11 AM
I'm a big Yosemite fan!! But I drove down 395 May 21st and 120 was closed to Yosemite. Also Yosemite camping is booked out six months in advance. I used to stay in housekeeping, but that was a while ago and they didn't have the space for that many cars. A drive through for the day wouldn't be bad, but where would we spend the night? There is camping just outside the park, that might be easier to get into.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2016, 12:48 AM
Sorry Mono Lake has some interesting "islands" on the northwest side
Posted by: mgp4591 Jun 6 2016, 01:11 AM
Sorry Mono Lake has some interesting "islands" on the northwest side
True, but lodging and camping in Lee Vining is a beeotch.... spendy too.
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 6 2016, 08:02 AM
There are 3 hotels in Mammoth that could house us and be within budget.
Scheduling the trip later in the year (August probably) would make sure that all the passes are open.
Posted by: aircooledtechguy Jun 6 2016, 09:16 AM
Was there some seismic event that relocated Yosemite to the LA area that I didn't hear about?? So all that talk about it being "SoCal's turn to host" and we really need to have one in SoCal for a change, etc., really had nothing to do with it after all did it Rob? Funny how now that it'll be held again in NorCal, that you're perfectly content with the venue without a peep about SoCal. . .
Way to dampen people's enthusiasm to host in the future Rob! It takes a special kind of person to act like a total, utter, douche-bag without an ounce of concern for anyone else. Congratulations in bullying your way into getting exactly what you want. I hope you have a great time!!
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 6 2016, 10:29 AM
The real issue here will be accommodations, we need not just hotel rooms, but a hotel willing for to have activities in the parking lot after hours, and to allow us to provide our own security "RV". I would suggest that you sort through the list on these as quick as you can, just in case it is not viable. Also, (goes with hotel reservations) we need to pick a date.
This is not an easy endeavor to make it come together and get it planned so it works. You may not have the highest turn out due to location, but the sooner yo ucan nail this down, the better.
Just my .02, having done this before.
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 6 2016, 11:20 AM
Mark,
We appreciate your comments/concerns. Hotels is currently my #1 priority, again I have found 3 candidates that I believe would work well with us. I will be discussing the events with them this week and our goals and what they can and can not achieve for us.
Posted by: 6freak Jun 6 2016, 01:07 PM
Depends on the puget sound location. The body of water in question is approx 100 miles long and runs from Olympia to deception pass.
come on Kevin! washington is way farther from cali then cali is from washington ...and they gotta drive up hill the whole way...
you should know that
Posted by: 6freak Jun 6 2016, 01:51 PM
I will never drive truck and trailer to so cal again because the BS traffic ...oregon was perfect for all on the west coast ..real central IMO.
...and billy i would have helped you! I have a lot of the proper contacts we would have needed,but i was outta town all week and just seen this today for the first time..thanks for trying to step up, but i can see why you are out....all that CRY N LIKE A BITCH .. gun slinging Yosimite would be ok but i will say thats about limit on travel ...
Pacific raceway cart track would have been awesome,or the ridge ...but you aint haul n ass at the ridge, they wont let you! until you prove your not gonna fuck up real bad and that takes more then one day,,,,,maybe them so cal boys didnt like getting there ass` handed to them at the AX track by use PNW guys and one crazy cat from Oakland so they want it down there
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 6 2016, 03:25 PM
The real issue here will be accommodations, we need not just hotel rooms, but a hotel willing for to have activities in the parking lot after hours, and to allow us to provide our own security "RV". I would suggest that you sort through the list on these as quick as you can, just in case it is not viable. Also, (goes with hotel reservations) we need to pick a date.
This is not an easy endeavor to make it come together and get it planned so it works. You may not have the highest turn out due to location, but the sooner yo ucan nail this down, the better.
Just my .02, having done this before.
A time consuming task to get all the planets in alignment. Thanks for taking on this job !
Posted by: Series9 Jun 6 2016, 03:40 PM
Hmmmmm.....
Why am I no longer planning 914 events?
I swear, some of you could complain about a day off work.
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Jun 6 2016, 03:54 PM
What about having the WCR event in Indiana?
Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 6 2016, 03:58 PM
Wow. You know where this one is headed. Too bad. Uh oh
Posted by: Rand Jun 6 2016, 05:50 PM
Hmmmmm.....
Why am I no longer planning 914 events?
I swear, some of you could complain about a day off work.
What'cha got planned?
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 6 2016, 06:07 PM
Hmmmmm.....
Why am I no longer planning 914 events?
I swear, some of you could complain about a day off work.
Damn Joe, ain't it the truth! Nuf said.
Posted by: bandjoey Jun 6 2016, 06:13 PM
In the future, here are the new 914 quadrants. No one can cross the line, and everyone is expected to participate.
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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 6 2016, 06:34 PM
Florida should be part of zone 2.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Jun 6 2016, 07:06 PM
What about having the WCR event in Indiana?
It's already called the MUSR
Posted by: sb914 Jun 6 2016, 07:17 PM
9 pages! 
Posted by: forrestkhaag Jun 6 2016, 07:23 PM
I like that map of the quadrants.... only there were about 11 of them on the quadrant map...... Key word Quadrant
consider this a Quad Rant..
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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 6 2016, 07:31 PM
Ha!
Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 6 2016, 08:24 PM
In the future, here are the new 914 quadrants. No one can cross the line, and everyone is expected to participate.
Them good 'ol boys in Alabama and Mississippi prolly won't take kindly to bein' in a pink state.
Posted by: ben*james Jun 6 2016, 09:05 PM
What about having the WCR event in Indiana?
Your contribution to the prize pool was beyond and above. Thank you so much for that great gift. Some very lucky person walked away with it and a huge smile on their face.
I'm in for Indiana for that reason alone.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 1 2016, 07:49 PM
OK, we're in October, have we been able to get accommodations?
I attended Octeenerfest last weekend and was throughly impressed on how it was run. I asked a little further into how they organized the event and Bob's wife mentioned he had a checklist she used for PCA event planning, some item literally start right after the event ends.
Just want to see that wherever this is at that we keep all the balls on the air.
That and I have to bid for next year's vacation in a month.
Posted by: 72914wrx Oct 1 2016, 08:43 PM
What about oakhurst Ca or Bass lake ca they are only 45 min from Yosemite. The hotels are affordable as well . I could help with event planning .
Posted by: Andyrew Oct 1 2016, 09:02 PM
Accomidations are secured. I was going to post about it last month but unfortunately I have been a little busy. I cant post it now as im on my mobile in poor reception.
Mike, Rob, Marty and I are all taking the lead on this one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 1 2016, 09:19 PM
Thanks any info appreciated.
I need to set some time aside, so if you have the dates it would be appreciated
Posted by: jim_hoyland Oct 1 2016, 10:10 PM
Accomidations are secured. I was going to post about it last month but unfortunately I have been a little busy. I cant post it now as im on my mobile in poor reception.
Mike, Rob, Marty and I are all taking the lead on this one.
Dates and accommodation location will be greatly appreciated; I want to book early and schedule
Posted by: ConeDodger Oct 1 2016, 10:34 PM
Accomidations are secured. I was going to post about it last month but unfortunately I have been a little busy. I cant post it now as im on my mobile in poor reception.
Mike, Rob, Marty and I are all taking the lead on this one.
Dates and accommodation location will be greatly appreciated; I want to book early and schedule
Easy Jim, Andrew's wife's birthday weekend. Soon...
Posted by: Andyrew Oct 2 2016, 08:21 AM
Ill post this tonight when I get home hopefully. June 1,2,3,4.
Typicall wcr fashion, the first and last days are travel days, little will be scheduled.
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