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Posted by: madd_dogg_914 May 28 2016, 09:29 PM

I know that the name Brad Roberts isn't a very highly regarded name in these parts, but I know someone out there must know how to get a hold of him. Brief backstory (or as brief as I can make it):

About 12 years ago I met Brad at a 914club.com event. We had chatted about converting my 1973 1.7 to a 914-6. Soon the chats became serious, and I handed the keys over to Brad to do the conversion. Since then, there has been much turmoil surrounding Brad, the separation with the club site to the world site, a divorce, jail time, moving, new jobs and adventures, all the while he maintained that my car is almost done, just a couple more things to finish, just need a wiring harness, etc. Now, 12 (it may even be more, I stopped counting) years later I get a Notice of Stored Vehicle in the mail from some shop I've never heard of in Rancho Cucamonga, CA. They want me to pay $6050 (climbing another $100 by the day), or they are going to sell my car at a lien sale. I don't know why my car is there (last I saw it, it was at his house), and I've been desperately reaching out to Brad to try and find an explanation, but he hasn't returned any phone calls, and he hasn't responded to any of my text messages.

The shop is called So Cal Euro Werks, does anyone know if that is Brad's shop? I thought his was called Inland Empire something, but I've been known to be wrong before. Maybe he is trying to collect money from me for having the car for so long? I'm really just trying to get to the bottom of it, and I'm trying desperately to not assume the worst (which is that he has just absconded with my money/parts, and just left the car somewhere).

So if anyone out there has any way of communicating with Brad, has seen Brad, or knows how to get a hold of him, would you please tell him that Chris Killam is desperately trying to get a hold of him.

I thank you from the bottom of my heart, this car means the world to me, as it was my mothers, who passed away when I was 9 years old. She left the car to me, and it is really the only thing I have to remember her by. I just want my car back, finished or not. I don't even know if the car is complete right now.

I've attached a picture of the car, as it was when I gave it to him to do the conversion. Please help, I feel

Posted by: r_towle May 28 2016, 09:38 PM

Brm9138@yahoo

Pm me for his cell.

That is all I can do for you.

Rich

Posted by: Mike Bellis May 28 2016, 09:39 PM

First, you need to call the police and get a court order in place to hold your car. Then you need to worry about Brad. He's active on Facebook all the time.

Posted by: mepstein May 28 2016, 09:43 PM

Wow. I wish you the best.
Listen to Mike Bellis.

Posted by: smokey May 28 2016, 09:48 PM

Rick McCarthy

Posted by: Mike Bellis May 28 2016, 09:50 PM

PM Blue6 on this site. He has PD contacts in the area.

Posted by: SirAndy May 28 2016, 09:52 PM

I also have his current cell number, if you still need it.

Posted by: smokey May 28 2016, 09:55 PM

Oh yeh ....
THAT SUCKS !!!!
I am so fucking sorry man. Try to stay positive.

Posted by: Coondog May 28 2016, 10:09 PM

Bummer, but 12 years.......who lets someone have his car for that long. Always two sides to every story. Good luck.

Posted by: SLITS May 28 2016, 10:12 PM

So Cal Euro Werks was a joint venture between Brad and Gus (don't remember his last name). Yes, several of us warned Gus about Brad and going into business with him. Brad kept running up bills but didn't pay his share. Gus was forced to take on the responsibility of keeping the business out of his pocket. In other words, Brad F__ked Gus.

Brad is no longer a legal part of the business.

The 914/6 is probably the one me, Gus and friends have discussed. Brad left it there with no paperwork whatsoever and disappeared into the sunset. Gus looked and looked for the owner and was unsuccessful until now. We were the ones who advised him to put a Mechanics Lien on it.

I know Gus well and he is a good, honest businessman, person and a Porsche lover. Talk to him!! .... (909) 527-3776. I don't know if I will see him Sunday, but I will see his close friend and will inform him of this thread.

Posted by: SLITS May 28 2016, 10:21 PM

As a further note ... don't bother trying to talk to BR. He's flash and no substance!!!

Posted by: ndfrigi May 28 2016, 11:24 PM

Chris, i just talked to a friend and it seems Gus can help you. Call Gus and I believed he is a nice guy and he already helped fixing two of our members car.

Posted by: Mueller May 29 2016, 12:17 AM

Bummer......


As on his FB profile..no idea how accurate I think I've spoken to him 2 or 3 times in the last 8 years for about 10 minutes total..

Posted by: whitetwinturbo May 29 2016, 09:35 AM

Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.

C. S. Lewis

Posted by: mepstein May 29 2016, 09:43 AM

Unfortunately, Brad has proven to have no integrity.

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 29 2016, 09:59 AM

So sorry to hear about your misfortune with Brad. From all accounts, he is nothing but a criminal -sadly.

But, it appears you may get lucky as several have vouched for Gus. I would go see Gus in person with pictures or whatever you have showing ownership and try to work something reasonable out to get the car released and on a flatbed that same day. Take cash. Maybe you can get it back for $1K?

I love that you are the eternal optimist when it comes to Brad....but his actions speak volumes. He should be locked up doing hard time for years. How many people does he have to hurt in our small community before he is completely shunned?

Best wishes and let us know what happens with your car.

Posted by: Chris914n6 May 29 2016, 11:43 AM

Just a note, if the car is supposed to be in Brads hands and it's not, it's stolen. Since you didn't contract the shop to do work they can't charge you for anything. They would have to request compensation from Brad. They can't hold your car ransom.

But it sounds like the lien was the only way to find the owner, it doesn't sound like it will be a problem.

Too bad about Brad, we had some good teener talks.

Posted by: PanelBilly May 29 2016, 12:03 PM

And I thought I was a champion at giving people time to finish parts of my car. You get the award.

Posted by: Heeltoe914 May 29 2016, 12:12 PM

Maybe I'm Wrong but something to consider look over the car see what work has actually been done gather up your receipts on what you actually paid Brad,, compared to what has been done to the car? Maybe pay that money to GUS and all will be good.? That way Gus is recouping some of his money.. and maybe you're getting a deal on some of the work..? Hope that makes sense.

I understood it haha

Posted by: Larmo63 May 29 2016, 12:14 PM

It took me two seconds to find him on Facebook.

Posted by: SLITS May 29 2016, 01:59 PM

I talked to Gus. Gus has been talking to Chris or his wife has since last Thursday. Chris / Wife offered to give Gus a credit card for the $6k, but Gus refused saying that all they owed is $50.00 .... the cost of the Lien Sale paperwork.

Gus has offered to get the car mechanically sound as a driver (brakes, fuel lines, etc). After it's a driver, they will talk about a complete restoration of the vehicle. Engine is a 3.0L with the manifolding of a 3.2L (Motronic). Chris will view the car and determine what parts are there and if anything paid for is missing.

I told you Gus was a standup guy and yes, the Lien Sale was the only way to determine who owned the car.

'Nuff said .... all is good.

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Posted by: rhodyguy May 29 2016, 02:36 PM

Gus sounds like a good biz owner. More than fair guy.

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Posted by: r_towle May 29 2016, 03:15 PM

Good man.
Got off cheap for years of storage.

Posted by: madd_dogg_914 May 29 2016, 04:04 PM

Thank you everyone for your kind words and support. Yes, I have talked with Gus, absolutely a stand up guy. The point of this thread was to try and get Brad to contact one of us. It seems like Brad has washed his hands of the situation and has decided to just dump my car. I have reciepts for every penny I have sent Brad, along with a description of what the money was for. If there is one bolt missing from the car, I'll have no choice now but to involve the police. I wanted to give Brad the benefit of the doubt, but it's painfully obvious now just what kind of person I've been dealing with all these years.

I guess if there is any silver lining here, it's that Brad left my car in the honest and capable hands of a great Porsche enthusiast like Gus!

-Chris

P.S. I look forward to posting progress pictures as the car is brought back to life. I'll also make sure to post before Brad and after Brad pictures in case any one else is duped into trusting him, maybe my story will help someone steer clear.

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Posted by: OU812 May 29 2016, 06:23 PM

Odds are You are not the only one that has been taken advantage of by this guy.

Typically People like this do not operate in the black, they are always taking from Peter to pay Paul, operating in the red and juggling other peoples assets/cars to maintain some sort of cash flow. Ultimately like a Pyramid scheme things eventually come crashing in.

Part of this problem is also on the owner of the car.....I know, I know.. shouldn't blame the owner, but we are somewhat culpable to. We as responsible owners besides having a clear contract which is signed by both parties should also set up some ground rules that would prohibit this type of issue from happening. Whether it be closer watch on the car when being away for repairs, making further payments and supplying more parts only after verifiable progress has been and continues to be made as a part of the original agreement.

This world is full of unscrupulous people that are all to willing to separate you from your money without even blinking an eye.

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 30 2016, 06:37 AM

I am very happy to hear that this all worked out and even better that the car is in good hands. Gus is a stand-up guy based upon how this was handled.

I hope they have big pictures of Brad posted all over the shop advising to call the police if that POS ever enters their shop again.

Posted by: RobW May 30 2016, 07:35 AM

Are you going to fly down there and see the car? If it were me, I'd do a thorough review prior to taking any next steps. I'd also recommend focusing your dollars on the build. As pissed as I would be (and you can say I've been there ) the best feeling is getting on with things.

Posted by: Mueller May 30 2016, 03:54 PM

Great news....I don't think I've ever met Gus, sounds like an outstanding person. I'd gladly buy him a beer if I ever bump into him at an event!

Posted by: Mark Garriott May 30 2016, 09:15 PM

I had long wondered about that car, and who it belonged to. I had seen it moved from various 'shops'. Never getting attention while other projects came along which in turn also suffered the same fate of abandonment at the almost-but-never-quite-done stage.

Posted by: ssuperflyoldguy May 30 2016, 11:40 PM

Maybe the car has appreciated in value over the years especially with a 3.6 in it? Maybe just pay the 6000$k and grab the car. If you got the notice of storage, that's the # they are looking for so that they don't complete the lien. The lien is in motion and you need to stop it. You could possibly file a stolen vehicle report & walk in there with the sheriff. By filing the lien they have "found" the vehicle - " thanks, no charges will be filed in the theft of my car if you release it...."

All the lawyering will maybe cost $6k anyway. Your car has really appreciated in value if still in good shape. That putz has wasted a lot of other people's time & money too - they are just trying to recover some value.

Posted by: tavoman27 May 31 2016, 03:30 AM

The car is not a 3.6 nor an original 914-6, read all the previous post and you will figure things out.

Posted by: carr914 May 31 2016, 04:54 AM

Fantastic News!



Chris, if there a Bolt or an Exhaust, I don't think the Police will give a Rat's Ass. You would have to go to Small Claims against Brad. But now you know how to find him. I've also got his Cell,but haven't talked to him in about a year.

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 31 2016, 06:52 AM

Do yourself a favor and just deal with Gus and get your car back on track once it is in your "possession" again. Then, if you wish, have Gus do the work.

I would not waste the time going after the asshat Brad. That is throwing good time away for nothing.

Posted by: mepstein May 31 2016, 08:39 AM

!!!!

Posted by: tavoman27 Jun 3 2016, 12:03 AM

Hello, I'm Gus the party involved and mentioned on this thread.
I will like to make it clear to all that I had no intentions of keeping, ,selling or part out the 914 in question here.

I did not know who the owner of the car was, where it came from and what was need it so a Lien sale was the proper way to find out, $6000 dollars was going to filter out unwanted people claiming ownership so I proceeded and Chris responded.

Chris was told from the very beginning that the car was abandoned at my shop by Brad Roberts and that the 914 condition was very poor, Brad is unwanted far, near or at my shops front door and the reasons are about $25000 of them... so I think many can relate to it but I won't provide especific details... all I can say is that I found out too late about his GTA, the 914 prototype and the many that got nailed by him.

Chris will take possession of his car as soon as he can make it to my shop and his cost will be ONLY $50 to cover the cost of the lien sale processing fee after that is settled I can work on his car or he can take it home.

I'm not in the business of screwing people, my reputation is very important specially after the issues inherited courtesy of Brad Roberts, now I'm on my own doing everything possible to re start my business and make sure everyone is aware that I have no business or dealings with Brad Roberts.

My shop is at your service.

SOCALEUROWERKS
8800 ONYX AVE. SUITE C
RANCHO CUCAMONGA CA 91730

socaleurowerks@gmail.com

+19095273776

Thank you all for the support and the kind words.

Cheers.


lo


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Posted by: oldschool Jun 3 2016, 12:25 AM

GUS is a top dude, I have done business with him...

Posted by: Mark Garriott Jun 3 2016, 08:03 AM

I suppose this is a hijack, but...

Why don't we ever get into specific details? Why is it that we won't air our dirty Brad laundry in public? And by 'we', I do mean me.

Are we all too embarrassed to admit our gullibility? Or worse, our willful ignorance? Maybe I have more regard for Brad the person, rather than Brad the sketchy businessman. But they are one in the same.

We certainly aren't doing the next guy any favors. And there will be one. Or many.

Posted by: SLITS Jun 3 2016, 08:11 AM

It serves no purpose to go into the details. The statement that doing business with BR is VERY risky and should be avoided is all that is needed. Let it die!

Posted by: Mark Garriott Jun 3 2016, 08:46 AM

Obviously, the general statement wasn't sufficient.

Posted by: SixerJ Jun 3 2016, 08:49 AM

I agree, no point in details

Brads reputation has been established beyond doubt. Gus, also without doubt is the polar opposite

From Gus's statement he wants to move as quickly away from Brads trail of ill will and criminality to re-establish the reputation of his shop. Bitching serves no purpose

In not commenting, Gus's credibility IMHO has just gone up further

Posted by: Mueller Jun 3 2016, 08:52 AM

Welcome Gus!

Sorry that it takes something like this to get you join up here, we hope you stay!

By the way, that is one huge tire on the Mahle rim in the background

Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 3 2016, 09:28 AM

Welcome Gus,
Your actions in helping someone you didn't know or have a vested interest says volumes about your character. If I ever need work done when I'm down there, I'd look you up.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jun 3 2016, 09:41 AM

Gus has been here , just not active. probably Doing Real Work..


I met BR once ..but he was to busy on the computer to be any real influence ....I would like to thank him for single handedly encouraging 914 owners to get way over their heads monetarily, and disappear..
leaving owners to post deals trying to recoupe some $$
Sad but True

GUS good job doing the right thing.. I look forward to see some progress info/photos on this 914-6 project..

Posted by: bandjoey Jun 3 2016, 09:59 AM

To far away to use your shop Gus, but you'll be recommended by many to many more. Thanks.

Posted by: Brian Mifsud Jun 3 2016, 10:11 AM

This board has always been full of "Stand Up" guys.. Gus is a prime example!

Thanks GUS!

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jun 3 2016, 11:19 AM

Wow...its always encouraging to hear of upstanding people/shops with honesty and integrity and not just the criminal element all the time. Thank you Gus, I only wish you were here in Norcal.

BR only got me for ~$500. sorry to hear of others losses.

Posted by: Mike D. Jun 3 2016, 11:44 AM

As long as we're bashing...

BR sold me a 2.7 six, when I got it it was missing .7 liters...

Posted by: 76-914 Jun 3 2016, 03:25 PM

Hell, I'm impressed when someone makes good on their own mistake but to make good on someone else's mistake is, well, incredible! I'm very impressed and will add your name to my list of "great business' " to deal with.

Posted by: Mark Garriott Jun 3 2016, 03:29 PM

I have this uncomfortable feeling that a car part BR gave me was on Gus's dime. I am working on rectifying that...

Posted by: carr914 Jun 3 2016, 05:37 PM

For those that say No Point in Details, what about the Guys that have come in since the Split and have no idea who he is? We certainly do enough Bashing on AA to Newbies!

I count Brad as a friend/acquaintance, but I have never had any Business dealings with him.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 3 2016, 06:00 PM

I was thinking about that myself. The bad apples count on short memories and naive buyers.

Posted by: smarens Jun 3 2016, 06:25 PM

I'm also too far away but thanks to Gus for being such a good guy, I rarely read many of the "non-tech" posts as I'm a newbie trying to get knowledge but so glad this had a happy ending, I'm only new to 914's, not cars and for sure not business, Gus's actions are that of a man that will do well in business, ETHICS ARE EVERYTHING!!!

Posted by: Coondog Jun 3 2016, 06:49 PM

Thank you Gus, you just earned my business. .....

Posted by: ndfrigi Jun 3 2016, 07:56 PM

First I heard of Gus was from Corey and Gus did helped fixed or tuned Corey's 73 1.7. Rebuilt the weber and adjusted the valve in a very good price. Then I recommend Gus to Bob (who bought my 71 1.7 megasquirt) to rebuild Bob's 2.0 engine to a 2056 set up with dual carb for his 74 car. Currently Gus is in the process of installing the engine to the car and hope this coming week Bob will have his car.

Posted by: RobW Jun 3 2016, 08:53 PM

Welcome Gus! You have some nice work pictured!

Posted by: BigFour1973 Aug 23 2016, 10:52 AM

This will be a recount of my personal encounter, and close friends encounter with Gus.
I found gus' shop by seeing a picture of his 914 with "socal euro werks" plastered on the front of it and coincidentally I was in need of a valve adjustment and carb cleaning/syncing. So, I give Gus a call and Mike answered the phone. Gave me a great quote to get the work done so I dropped off the car quick enough where he wouldn't change his mind. They get the work done and the car is running great..... for a couple weeks. As we all know that's the usual time frame until the next problem pops up on our cars. But this wasn't a next problem, this was a current problem that Gus chose to ignore and not tell me about while working on my car.

Upon first glance of removing my valve cover I quickly noticed that my #4 exhaust valve rocker arms geometry was off and that my adjuster foot was worn down flat and adjusted about 3-4 threads more then all the other visible adjusters. Now let me remind you, I've never adjusted my own valves on the 914 and it took me all of 30 seconds to spot this while laying on my back under the car. That was strike 1.

Strike two came when I looked into the engine bay after the car was sitting for a month while i was trying to figure out my next step. I peeked into the engine bay and noticed that gas had been leaking from the carbs onto the intake runners. Fresh after the carb rebuild with all new gaskets purchased from pelican.

Strike 3 was when my friend took his 996 over to have the motor swapped out. Gus told him it would be 1500 to R/R the engine. Once they got to getting the motor pulled they realized that the engine wasn't core worthy since there was a fresh inspection hole punched out by the rod. My friend had to decline any further work since he was banking on the core to bring costs down. Gus didnt take this too well, he told my friend that his bill is 1500$. Now Remove/Replace for 1500 means you take out the motor and put it the other motor... when you only do half of the work that should equate to 750. but I'm no mathematician, correct me if I'm wrong.

Gus and my friend got into it about the price. Then Gus berates my friend for "going behind [his] back to purchase a motor" when all the while gus told him he could get a better deal by paying cash direct to Vision motors. Gus threatens to throw his shit outside and further berates him for not being able to do the work himself. My friend had to remind Gus that he was infact disabled and not capable of doing the work.

I referred a couple of you board members to SoCal Euro Werks and I hope you receive better treatment then myself or my friend. But I will not be returning.
/Rant

Posted by: 76-914 Aug 23 2016, 06:25 PM

Interesting. I heard Gus' side of the story when you got your car back. IIRC, he could have slipped you the Big One and did not. And you thought he was an OK guy. All that I can say of that event and your behavior is that it is a little different than the version you posted. I don't have a dog in this hunt as I do all my own work. And in the end time will prove that either Gus is a Bad Mechanic or your just a PITA customer. I'm looking at your list and regarding your complaints I have to ask. Was strike one a result of some work he did and you were charged for or did he mis-diagnose something and you discovered it was the worn adjuster foot. Was strike 2 about some carb overhauls he performed and began to leak. If so, did he get the chance to make it good. As far as strike 3 goes I call . Your friend was providing the "parts". It's his baby. Gus was quoting you to R&R an engine. You want him to include a free inspection service for a penny pinching customer. Good luck with that one.
I look forward to Gus weighing in on this latest comment with his side of the story.

Posted by: BigFour1973 Aug 23 2016, 10:42 PM

I'll break down the list for you,
Strike one was a result of my #4 valve exhaust valve going out of adjustment in less then 500 miles. Like I said, when I opened up the valve cover to take a peek at what lay inside I found a adjuster foot on said valve that was threaded down to the end of its adjustment. Now since you do all of your own work, would you say this is something out of the norm? Or something you'd just adjust and close the lid and call it good?
Strike two, I did not give him the chance nor bring it up to him. I already had the motor out and took care of it myself at that point.
Strike 3 is regarding my friends 996, call it what you will. But if I got quoted to have my motor removed and replaced and left the building with a car and motor separated from each other. That's half the deal right there in a R/R

Who's the penny pinching customer you're referring to? And what free inspection are you talking about?

Posted by: Coondog Aug 23 2016, 10:57 PM

Had my 914 towed there for a no start issue, never saw Gus. Worked with Mike who was very 914 knowledgable. Mike called me back in less then a hour to tell me my car was fixed. Last person who did the tune up did not put that little dab of lube on my distributor shaft.

Charged me 60 bucks. They could have taken me to the cleaners with all the no start issues a 914 can have. I also told him to go through my car and replace items as needed. Only thing he found was a broken heater control box which he replaced with one he had laying around his shop for labor only. When I picked up my car I gave Mike a 50 dollar gift card to Applebee's as I appreciated his honesty.

Customer for life.

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 24 2016, 03:41 PM

hey I saw BR at UMC..x miller motorsports, 2 weekends ago...I said Hi Brad..


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Posted by: zach914v8 Aug 25 2016, 06:20 AM

The Brad Roberts story is an interesting one. Someone needs write a book about this guy. I'd buy it.

Posted by: tavoman27 Aug 28 2016, 11:12 PM

I do not like to get my name to be trashed around by ungrateful people but some of this accusations do get to me so here is my side of the story.

For the guy claiming that his valve adjustment went out in 500 miles that is not true... you brought the car in after sitting around or quite some time... we rebuilt the carburetors, bled the brakes and tuned your car plus the valve adjustments... we charged you $250 dollars when our regular rate would have had the invoice at least $450 dollars, you called me and contacted me about the noise and all I asked you to do was to bring the car back to check the valves and re adjust them at no charge... I'm still waiting for you to come around.

Your friend Saxon called me about his 996 with a blown motor, I quoted him $1500 to swap motors, he had quotes from other shops ranging from $2500 to $4000.
I picked up the car for Him from his house because he had a broken leg and wanted to help him out so the car was pick up for FREE!!!!!!

Upon arrival we inspected the car and told him he had a rod bearing laying inside the case and that the engine was NOT GOOD AS A CORE REPLACEMENT so he will have to pay the price for the new engine plus the core charge, I gave him multiple choices of prices on the engines and core charges but he decided to GO AROUND ME AND BUY AN ENGINE FROM MY SUPPLIER AT MY COST but wanted me to install it.... once it was al said and done the ENGINE SUPPLIER contacts me and tells me that he is sending a long block only not a full engine replacement so Saxon was notified of that and also notified of the extra charge for removing all the engine intake manifolds, wiring, sensors and affiliated hardware from the damaged engine and install them on the new long block with new gaskets and related parts.... he Agreed to it but could not afford the price of the long block plus the core charge so the new engine never arrived.

At that time his engine and transmission were removed from the car and damaged engine was stripped down to a long block awaiting for replacement unit to be delivered as promised by Saxon that the engine was arriving.

So your friend paid only for the work performed on his car not a penny more, it is not my foul that he can not afford to fix his car.

So please next time you want to talk crap about some one please get your facts straight and correct and also realize that your college student budget does not allow you to play with PORSCHES so do not ask or call about problems with your car and right away shot the poor student line.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Posted by: colingreene Aug 29 2016, 12:30 AM

Aint that the truth.

Posted by: 76-914 Aug 29 2016, 07:30 AM

Well big4, or is it BIG Whiner, read Tavomans reply below. He has confirmed exactly what I suspected. I've been in business for over 40 years and can smell a Rat a bock away. Go away. Would you mind taking the Troll with you on the way out.

Posted by: BigFour1973 Aug 29 2016, 12:35 PM

Lets start the he said she said bullshit then. You must have bumped your head because youre right the car did sit for 10 years... but once it came into your shop it had been well on the road for almost 2 years. If you bled the brakes you did it out of the kindness of your heart because you didn't inform me of it nor did i ask for it. I texted you to inform you of what was happening, you jumped straight to drop valve seat and said it would be 10 hours to drop the motor and inspect the heads. NO where in those text messages did you say come drop it by to have it re done at no charge.



You offered to pick up his car, no no, you insisted you pick up his car and were upset that he couldn't help you push it onto the trailer. Either yourself or mike informed him to talk to vision and get a price. Also, the engine wasn't a good core because of the newly added inspection hole added by the failed rod, not the rod bearing sitting in the pan.


Not a penny more, but it should've been a few pennies less. I'm sorry, when a customer of mine gets quoted for me to come out and perform the repair work on 2 units it's X amount. If I only remove the old and don't install a new it becomes X-Y=Z (Y being the work I didn't perform and Z being the new adjusted price.)


Call it what you will, this was my review of what I experienced in your shop. My college student budget allows me to play with grandpas car, its lasted 43 years in my family and I want to make sure it lasts another 43+. So with that being said, i didnt come to your shop because you were the cheapest. I didnt come to your shop because you looked like someone I could get along with, nor did i come to your shop because it was geographically convenient. I came to your shop because I saw your love for the 914 on the race down to cabo and figured you were the guy I could use for my next service and more to come.

Posted by: BigFour1973 Aug 29 2016, 12:40 PM

No, It's bigFour. I read and replied. I already know its not going to change your view of the situation since you and Gus seem to be friends. So please keep the comments from the peanut gallery down.

Posted by: Toast Aug 29 2016, 03:10 PM

This thread is EXACTLY why we do not talk about Brad Roberts!
Can we have a moderator close this thread or throw it in the Sandbox now please?

Posted by: Mueller Aug 29 2016, 03:16 PM

He's getting fat!

okay, so am I and the f'ker still has more hair! hahaha

Posted by: tavoman27 Aug 30 2016, 03:40 PM

I do not need friends to come over and help, they are costumers and 914 lovers alike that are grown up and do not go online to talk crap about other people or businesses.