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Posted by: BeemerSteve Jun 21 2016, 07:24 PM
Hi everyone!
Sorry, but I'm sure this has been asked before but I just can't seem to find a link. I have 4 very unused (maybe a little) Kumho tires I got from a friend and want to mount them. Instead of using the tire store my buddy has a tire mount and balance tools he said he'd do it for free.
The rear is no issue but finding a place to jack up the front of the car to take both wheels to him seems daunting for raising the front up in order to take off both tires.
Best and safest place to jack it. I still have the front rack cover on the car. Your thoughts?
Thanks!!
Posted by: r_towle Jun 21 2016, 07:44 PM
Me, I jack up one corner at a time on my car, then put it on a jack stand.
Posted by: stugray Jun 21 2016, 08:06 PM
If you jack up one side by the rear dount or the jacking point, it will lift one whole side of the car.
Posted by: BeemerSteve Jun 21 2016, 08:12 PM
Sounds like a plan. Just didn't want to jack under a critical spot. So I will use the factory jack point near the center to raise half the car and put a jack stand under the front donut....then do the same to the other side. As long as the front is supported by two jack stands.
Thanks you guys!!
Posted by: stugray Jun 21 2016, 08:23 PM
If I jack up by the rear donut, you cant put a jackstand under it.
In that case I will put the rear jackstand under the trailing arm pivot and the front JS under the front of the a-arm pivot.
Always be very careful jacking a car from the side.
Make SURE the floor jack can roll or the jackstands on the side that is up in the air will begin to tip as you jack the low side.
Then when you are all done check all the jackstands with a mallet to be sure they are "settled".
One of the 4 JSs will likely have little to no weight on it
Posted by: BeemerSteve Jun 21 2016, 08:41 PM
If I jack up by the rear donut, you cant put a jackstand under it.
In that case I will put the rear jackstand under the trailing arm pivot and the front JS under the front of the a-arm pivot.
Always be very careful jacking a car from the side.
Make SURE the floor jack can roll or the jackstands on the side that is up in the air will begin to tip as you jack the low side.
Then when you are all done check all the jackstands with a mallet to be sure they are "settled".
One of the 4 JSs will likely have little to no weight on it
I think what I'll do since I have two floor Jack's is jack up both donuts at the same time and put the js under each side a-arm pivot.
Posted by: Justinp71 Jun 22 2016, 11:17 AM
If you want to just jack up the back is there a single spot that you can use for jacking? I know some have jacked up the back of the trans, but other have said this is a bad idea?
I typically just jack up at the side jack points and put a stand under the rear trailing arm.
Posted by: Keith914 Jun 22 2016, 02:02 PM
For many years I have jacked up the front of 911's and 914's by placing a good quality (no big knots in the wood) piece of 2'x4' wood at right angles to the direction of travel that is long enough to span and support on the underside of both front suspension points, then position the jack in the middle of this length of wood to raise the car. After raising the car, I place jack stands at the left and right front jacking points on the tub (just behind the rear of the front wheel wells), supporting the car while working on it. No guarantee, but this has always worked for me. I do not know of an "equivalent" for jacking the rear of a 914.
Posted by: stugray Jun 22 2016, 03:25 PM
If you want to just jack up the back is there a single spot that you can use for jacking? I know some have jacked up the back of the trans, but other have said this is a bad idea?
I typically just jack up at the side jack points and put a stand under the rear trailing arm.
Well, there IS, but its not stock:
It works well.
I tried jacking it by the intermediate plate before, but it just seemed that if anything shifted it would slip & break the cover
Posted by: Justinp71 Jun 24 2016, 11:13 AM
If you want to just jack up the back is there a single spot that you can use for jacking? I know some have jacked up the back of the trans, but other have said this is a bad idea?
I typically just jack up at the side jack points and put a stand under the rear trailing arm.
Well, there IS, but its not stock:
It works well.
I tried jacking it by the intermediate plate before, but it just seemed that if anything shifted it would slip & break the cover
Nice! Does anyone sell that?
Posted by: stugray Jun 24 2016, 04:05 PM
If you want to just jack up the back is there a single spot that you can use for jacking? I know some have jacked up the back of the trans, but other have said this is a bad idea?
I typically just jack up at the side jack points and put a stand under the rear trailing arm.
Well, there IS, but its not stock:
It works well.
I tried jacking it by the intermediate plate before, but it just seemed that if anything shifted it would slip & break the cover
Nice! Does anyone sell that?
Nope, custom made.
Posted by: arkitect Jun 25 2016, 06:58 AM
This is my odd way of lifting the rear. Fabricated a steel bumper to connect to the 4 stock locations, was made originally for a rotisserie.
Dave
Posted by: stugray Jun 25 2016, 10:10 AM
This is my odd way of lifting the rear. Fabricated a steel bumper to connect to the 4 stock locations, was made originally for a rotisserie.
Dave
Interesting: You are probably aware BUT, with the weight of the vehicle in front of the wheels of the cherry picker, it is teetering ready to flip that engine hoist over in a second. (I cant quite see in the shadow to see if it is attached to that other vehicle)
I have actually been SITTING on an engine hoist trying to hold it down from some similar tom-foolery when the hoist flipped and catapulted the whole shebang in the air.
Be very careful right there and dont get under it like that.
Posted by: arkitect Jun 25 2016, 10:44 AM
It lost the engine weight before the lift...very stable.
Dave
Posted by: worn Jun 25 2016, 12:14 PM
This is my odd way of lifting the rear. Fabricated a steel bumper to connect to the 4 stock locations, was made originally for a rotisserie.
Dave
Interesting: You are probably aware BUT, with the weight of the vehicle in front of the wheels of the cherry picker, it is teetering ready to flip that engine hoist over in a second. (I cant quite see in the shadow to see if it is attached to that other vehicle)
I have actually been SITTING on an engine hoist trying to hold it down from some similar tom-foolery when the hoist flipped and catapulted the whole shebang in the air.
Be very careful right there and dont get under it like that.
I do not agree. Imagine it is just a motor. The chain is pointing straight down to the load and the extra metal out front does not make a moment arm. I do agree that the end of the boom is very close to the leg ends and find that strange. If they aren't at full length out, they should be lengthened out. But maybe the designers feel they are out far enough.
Posted by: worn Jun 25 2016, 12:16 PM
Hi everyone!
Sorry, but I'm sure this has been asked before but I just can't seem to find a link. I have 4 very unused (maybe a little) Kumho tires I got from a friend and want to mount them. Instead of using the tire store my buddy has a tire mount and balance tools he said he'd do it for free.
The rear is no issue but finding a place to jack up the front of the car to take both wheels to him seems daunting for raising the front up in order to take off both tires.
Best and safest place to jack it. I still have the front rack cover on the car. Your thoughts?
Thanks!!
When I first read the title I thought it was about front end lift at high speed, and at what speed it would lift. There are folks on the board who know the answer, but I do not
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Posted by: Marty Yeoman Jun 25 2016, 04:18 PM
For many years I have jacked up the front of 911's and 914's by placing a good quality (no big knots in the wood) piece of 2'x4' wood at right angles to the direction of travel that is long enough to span and support on the underside of both front suspension points, then position the jack in the middle of this length of wood to raise the car. After raising the car, I place jack stands at the left and right front jacking points on the tub (just behind the rear of the front wheel wells), supporting the car while working on it. No guarantee, but this has always worked for me. I do not know of an "equivalent" for jacking the rear of a 914.
I've used the same technique. Works just fine. Posted by: theleschyouknow Jun 25 2016, 04:58 PM
I used the above drawing when figuring out lifting points
I have used the "knuckle" at the front of the suspension triangle -the circled spots nearest the front in the drawing- successfully lift either side and the whole front goes up then jackstands under the front donuts
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