My first 914 !
Introduction of guy and car....
Frank, from Holland, the Netherlands, Europe. Frankvw on the forum.
I am no stranger to the car hobby, but totally new to the Porsche world. So, not only did I recently buy my first 914, it was actually my first Porsche.
For many years I am into VW's some came and went, but also some stayed: a 1960 VW Beetle Ragtop and a 1978 VW T2b Westfalia Berlin.
After deciding I wanted a 914, I did a lot of reading and looking what was 'out there'
I did check a lot on the internet, including (of course) the 914world forums, especially from January 2016 onwards when I sort of decided I was going for it !
In april 2016 I did sign up to 914world as a member to make it more registered and tried to keep up through the different topics.
I already tried to contribute in different topics, since I also will be taking a lot from the 914world community.
How did I buy my first 914 ?
I kept an eye on the classified section of 914world, but nothing came along or was sold too soon. I wanted to buy from a clubmember so I had a better idea what I was buying.
Being from the Netherlands, Europe, it would be a buy based on trust. I figured that was easier to find on the 914world with your backup.
I did also check Craigs List to see what was out there, prices, details etc but my idea was that it would be hard to find a trust-deal on there.
I also kept an eye on Ebay, but I learned soon the cars were sold for higher prices then I had in mind. I saw the comment on the 914world somewhere : 'Evilbay is a great place to overpay'
I wanted a driver, not a project car and one day a 914 showed up on Ebay, a 1973 1.7 914, second owner with all history with it.
I contacted the seller and I had the idea I could find that trust-buy with him, we had good communication (mail, phone, SMS) and he was willing to help out in the shipping process.
I did enter the bidding war (well...20 bids in total) and I won !
The car and the color...
as mentioned, a 1973 914 1.7 with its original FI, on Riviera's. In fact, all is original except for one respray in 2002, in the original color.
The second owner bought it 18 years ago from the original owner who had it the first 25 years. Almost all history and maintenance known !
The most interesting part is the color. It was already discussed on the forum, since the seller called it sepia brown and it wasn't.
Before the auction ended I contacted Porsche Germany to help me check the color and they helped out (as much as possible).
We found the data they normally print on the COA, and there was stated it had several options. for example interior 31 (beige leatherette), was sold through a dealer in LA to first owner, option 570 (extra seat cushion) etc.
But also was stated on the files that this 914 was delivered in Color option 99 - Special Wish, which translated in code 98 on the Karmann doorpillar ID.
It was definately a custom wish, since the car was bought in the original color by last owner and he had it resprayed in 2002 since some of the clearcoat faded/came off.... and 914's had no clearcoat from the factory I learned.
Porsche could not find out what color it ended up in, so no more info on the color besides seller claiming it was resprayed in the same color it was before.
It is for sure a metallic brownish color, and the targaroof was also painted that color by the way...
I will have to wait what the real original color was if I remove some parts/carpets.....In case you have ideas or opinions about this color...let me know !
Yes. Car has to be transported to the Netherlands from USA. First, car will be transported from Connecticut to NJ (see pic attached)
and from NJ it will be loaded in the harbour of NY to be send on it's way to Europe.
I waited to post this intro since I thought when the car started his journey away from the sellers house, my adventure and ownership will start (although I already went through the financial process and paperwork)
Car was just picked up in Connecticut ! (see pic attached) voila, my intro !
What is next?
After the car arrives in the Netherlands, I have to pay tax, more tax and some other tax, since it is from outside Europe. Then I have to bring it for a Identity check and a Technical check
All needs to work and should be in good (enough) order, important stuff like structure and brakes, but also the small stuff like wiperrubbers and working horn. You get the idea.
This means I have to go through the car before I go there, and that is when I see what I still really need to do on the car to be able to drive it in NL.
I already know about some small issues with the car, from the info of the seller, but you always have to wait what really pops up, right ?
I also need some items not needed for this tests, like better beige vinyl seatcushion covers and one targaroof clip holder, but I will keep my eyes on the classifieds here !
After the tests, a Dutch registration, licenseplates, insurance and go with that banana (like we say in Holland) :-)
Ok...enough for now (problably already too much to share for an intro, but I got carried away typing, sorry)
"...go with that banana..." LOL ;-)
Nice buy and some effort you took. Hope the car will be as good as you hope once it arrives, but it's great you have a lot of info about the history of the car.
Nice one! Keep us updated and good luck while waiting...
Congratulations and I hope your car is worth the wait
Congratulations on your purchase. The car looks very nice in those pictures. I hope it is all it was represented to be. I liked your introduction and hope your car sails through your registration process so you can drive it soon.
Another euro here. That's the best intro i've seen on any forum.
Your car looks very nice, i'm a fan of the riviera wheels and have a set waiting to go on my car.
Hope the car works out well for you.
Nice! Love the color!
Nice color - chances are that was another Porsche color - it being a 99 code (versus a "match to sample") - so google for some 911 websites with colors on them to see what might match.
PS - the 31 interior code should be for a Beige (tan) interior with basketweave seat inserts. If that's not what's on the car, then get with the German Porsche COA folks to correct it, because PCNA screws up the COAs all the time.
Mine was the #31, but it took me researching for them & sending them the info I found on the color codes & 2x tries + a call to the customer care general manager over the COA staff to get PCNA to correct their error!
It looks darker than the `75 914 Copper Metallic that I'd repainted mine to in summer 76 (2nd owner since 12/75). Mine also has the Riviera wheels, but in the far rarer brushed finish.
If the p914.com website is back up yet, then you can find sample of that Copper color on a 914 there.
PSS - in case it's still down, here's one I saved from online of the Copper:
And this is pix of the 73 colors brochure FYI:
>>>> Jeff Bowlsby - you may want to add these to your set on your site, since you don't have 1973 MY on there.
Good luck with the VAT & Tariff mania!
It appears to be a very nice vehicle. That 1.7 is bullet proof and a good fit for your wallet given Denmark's gas prices. Looking forward to it's delivery. Enjoy the madness.
... from the south
looks like "COPPER BROWN METALLIC" (Code 432) to me
that was a 911 color from 1974 & 75
Congrats. Wish you lots of fun and adventure.
looks like a very nice car
Great looking car and great enthusiasm!!
Great-looking car... congrats!!!!
@all: Thanks for the kind words and comments.
"the 31 interior code should be for a Beige (tan) interior with basketweave seat inserts."
Yes, the car has beige vinyl ('leatherette') seats, with basketweave seatinserts, but the bolders and the backpad is smooth beige vinyl. Doorpanels have beige basketweave pattern as well, but black armrest with beige pockets. Black windowrollers.
Thanks for the comments on the color and the examples.
"looks like "COPPER BROWN METALLIC" (Code 432) to me ,that was a 911 color from 1974 & 75"
It is really hard to tell without the car in my hands, but if that is the case...it is a 1973 car.
That would mean the first owner was ahead of his time and Porsche liked it so much they adopted it in 1974 OR (more likely) the car was not 432 in 1973 but resprayed to 432 in 2002.
According to the last (second) owner, car was resprayed in teh same color as it was. I will have to wait till it arrives...
Welcome from another european, soon we'll introduce you to the dangers of 914rubber and pmb performance. Hazardous to your credit card mostly tho...
I have been checking out your stories and website last months as well ! wow !
I already bought my first 914 parts as well !
The passenger side seat cushion has tears/cracks, I did post a WTB add on the forum as well.
I got in contact with jmink on this site and he send some seat cushions in better condition to the warehouse where they ship the 914 from to Holland.
In time, since I understand they did put them in the car as spare parts for me.
I did not see the cushions in person yet, but they will arrive together with the car, so already one (easy) to-do thing on the list of things to tackle when I get it.
Thanks Jim for your quick actions !
some parts that I know are missing on the car:
- 1 targaroof holder clip, the white one on the engine side
- 1 jack entry cover
I will check with 914rubber.com if they come in stock again , but maybe better wait till I know if I need some more things to save on the shipping.....
In case you want to send me those parts, feel free and I will return the favour with a great postcard from Amsterdam
It does not look like the door jam was repainted, looking at the Karmann plate and your compliance sticker:
If that's true, I think the color would have to be Copper Brown Metallic, Porsche color 432 from 1974 (I don't know what the VW equivalent would be). Since your car is a very late '73 build, it wouldn't surprise me if a '74 color somehow made its way onto your car.
Welcome, nice looking car!
Interesting ! 432...
thanks a lot for your thoughts and input on my first 914 !
..........love that beer color!
Today I received mail that made me happy !
A package from FedEx from the previous owner to me, the new owner.
It contains the maintenance history of the car from the first invoice in 1973 till last bill (inch thick pile of papers), the original first CA plate, plus all the documentation from the car.
Besides the stuff on the pics, there was a lot more !
How cool is that !!!! especially since I will have to wait for the car, it is cool to get something that is related to the car and is something I can touch. Pics are cool, but this is more real.
Have a great weekend !
WELCOME!..... my notes say L99K Copper Metallic
The colors available for this model year were:
Berber Yellow L11D
Summer Yellow L13K
Nepal Orange L20C
Malaga Red L30C
Scarlet Red L31M
Laguna Blue L50C
Forest Green L64K
Light Ivory L80E
Palma Green Metallic L95K
Silver Metallic L96D
Anacona Blue Metallic L97B
Copper Metallic L99K
Thanks for your feedback 7TPorsch !
The car was build june 1973, sold juli 1973, so I am not sure about L99K. I do agree it looks like it a bit, but the year is a mismatch to be that color.....but who knows....
Expected shipping out of NY at July 7th. Then about another 20 days to the Netherlands..... waiting always takes longer than you want....
in the meantime reading up into the 914 books, docs and forumposts....
Good luck! It will be interesting to see what little things the car needs to "sort it out" and make it yours.
Oh yes ! I will keep you updated . I am going through the pile of bills / maintenance history that i already received earlier than teh car (see previous posts in this item) and check what/when is already done. It had some interesting repairs in its past, including the relocation of the fuelpump. It does not mention to where :-)
Also the AC was charged at least 10 times during its life but is not currently working according to the last owner. Really nice to go through the maintenancehistory !
Seems like it takes forever, but the 914 is nearly in sight. It is floating on the sea under England, but getting close to Belgium, it will visit the harbour of Antwerp first (Belgium) and then it will set sail for the Netherlands, and will arrive in the evening of 21st of July. From there harbour actions and customs etc. after that the car is released to me.
So...I guess next week I will get a first hands-on on the car.
So, did your 914 arrive safely?
Thanks for asking !
Well...it arrived in Holland.... that is the good news.
it came out of the container yesterday.
Now for the bad news....
There are some issues with the car because of the way it was handled during transport, but I di not want to get ahead now....because I only saw the pics and transportcompany will work on a solution ( after a little persuasion from my side)
Car will be brought to my house tomorrow and after I did see with my own eyes what the status is....then I will give an update.
My transportcompany has a very good reputation and i have faith they will sort it out for me. I will post progress and updates here after car is here ....
Oh, that's a bummer :-( Hope it all will go smooth so you can start enjoying your 914...and start sharing pics!
Wondered how the car was? Which shipping company did you use out of interest?
All the very best with it and look forward to updates.
congrats on the 914 score / looks like a nice ride.
Any news on your car?, hoping whatever the issue is its minor
Hi guys (and girls). thanks for the interest.
The car arrived on the friday before I left for vacation on saturday morning.
The issue with the car was that during transport it developed some mold in the container which affected my car as well.
The receiving transport company on the Dutch side called me to state that there was some mold on/in the car, and I had to wait to see for myself how bad it was.
The shipping companies stated that this happens more often, and is even mentioned in the contract in the small-print. I did talk to the USA transport company to express my concerns and worries since I did give them superdry car without mold and they offered to work on a 'Mutual solution' with me after we solved the issues.
I already spoke to a steamclean company that is specialized in mold-removal in cars in the next days, before the car was delivered to my house, so they were standby if needed.
The car was delivered Friday, saw the car and I did call the steamclean guys and they cleaned the 914 for me, only little later after I received the car. Normally they do newer cars, but they liked it to have a vintage car in their portfolio, so they took some pictures for their own webpages as well.
After the cleaning of the inside, the outside still has to be cleaned, it was steamed as well but it needs to be polished/waxed...however you guys call that... but that needs another company to do that, and could be done later.
So...I put the 914 in the garage and went on holiday the next morning.
Last weekend I came home and yesterday (Sunday) I could check the 914 better for the first time...... Update coming soon, promised !! !
Enjoy your CA / USA ride!
Great story ! Thanks for sharing with us Thanks for adding to VIN database too.
Keep this thread alive with future mods or changes
As mentioned, another company came to do the last polishing on the 914. All small spots and stains were removed by polishing the car.
It took more time than expected, but it looks nice again, just like how it was when it was bought (before the shipping started).
Yes, that is a beetle in the back, it's job was to hold the 914 targaroof during the cleaning :-)
From now on I can start on the work on the 914, and I will create a list of things to do after the first tech checks.
To be continued !
Looking good Frank.
Ok, so after the oil- and oilfilter change I decided to check what was not working first, since I need to get it ready for the Ducth Registration Test, where all should be in good order.
First the lights :
I found the rear light was not working, the instrument illumination does not work and license platelights do not work.
The rear light was a pita to solve. It was just the bulb that was not making good contact, but it was really hard to open the unit that was glued together by some previous fix where the glue also touched the lens at some points....but got that sorted.
The licenseplate lights had a short in the wiring, and could not find the issue and blew many fuses in the process. To get it working I did rewire the lights and attached the positive to the rearlights, instead of on its own fuse. Works now.
They should come on at the same time as the lights, so they are switched properly.
The instrumentlights are a mystery. well...not really...they get no 12V. The blue/black wire is somewhere loosing its power under the dash, really hard to find where. So after a lot of swearing, I decided to come up with the following
I bought some blue/black wire to keep the wirecoding the same and bought some fittings from a VW beetle and created a new instrument-illumination-harness. negative ground comes from the meters themselves, 12V I will maybe get from the fuse5 wires (lights) since they should come on with the lights at the same time. Or maybe I will check if the blue/black wire under the tunnelcarpet for the (not installed) consolemeters has juice and take it from there.
On my 74, a body shop had mis-wired the license plate lights. One of the two electrical tabs actually has continuity to the mounting screws; that one is supposed to get the brown ground wire. If you hook it up the wrong way around, the fuse will pop every time you turn on the headlights.
Not only will that take out your license plate lights, but also the rear compartment light and the center console instrument illumination lights. I don't remember if it also took out the regular instrument lights.
My car is a 74; the center console light wiring is a bit different on the 73s so I think those will lose the main instrument lighting if the license plate lights are mis-wired.
You've mentioned the targa cup a couple of times. They have been reproduced by 914Rubber.Com and are great. If you must have original, I'll send you my old dirty ones.
@Dave_Darling : thanks for this feedabck, I will check once more the wiring diagram, I was not aware it worked like this, at least I did not notice a relationship between those components (but I do not use these diagrams every day...)
@ConeDodger : thanks for the offer. I already bought them at the Porsche dealer directly, I mean the plastic parts that hold the roof in the trunk. They are super white, and maybe your old dirty ones were a better solution :-) Now I will have to replace them both since they are far apart in color !
Nice looking car! You will get to drive yours much more than I can drive mine as it is safely tucked away in a heated garage in the winter. Snow doesn't bother me or a 914 but a lot of salt is used on the roads in Atlantic Canada during the winter months and it would eat my teener in no time! Mine is a California car originally and is great shape, only sees rain if I get caught in it. Just finished the Acadia Region tour on Sunday, did around 650 KM, car worked great, lots of fun, 28 Porsches on that tour, 2 were 356's, and mine was the only 914. Get used to people coming up to you and asking questions about your 914, when you are getting fuel, going shopping etc. that is part of the fun.
Good luck with your teener and happy motoring!
@Ian: thanks. I also have a T2b and a beetle...So I guess I have an idea what to expect...
I also did set Dwell.
Since I was reading about 914 stuff (Haynes, online, 914world etc) to get more familiair with the car (first 914) I came across this step, so I decided to do it as well.
Dwell setting in progress ....
(I know boring pic to you guys, but I learn some stuff here !)
Ok, so I am busy prepping the 914 for the Dutch test by the DMV (called RDW over here) where they will test Identity, structure/damage and the feared technical test where all must work incl the smallest light, wiper and horn etc.
The lights had some issues, I solved that, but next were the drivinglights. I thought I had to disconnect them, but we checked regulations and it is not stated it is not allowed. It is not allowed to project orange light to the back it sais, which it does not really since it is on the fromt/side. So I found some nice driverlights and mounted them (old ones were cracked, rubber too far gone)
Next were the lights in the turnsignal lens. I am not allowed to project orange light to the front while driving, which they do. I thought an easy solution for the test was to turn them around like this:
But they do project orange glow anyway on the front of the car while they are mounted upside-down, not allowed, so not an option. We also found out that indicator light color can either be orange or yellow as long as they do not stay on while driving. OR...white ! which can also stay on while driving....
So...I bought clear lenses on evilbay and I think that solves the issue for the test, since I have no colored light on the front (white stays on while driving ) and when using the indicator they stay white (on/off/on) which is allowed according to regulations.
I hope they will accept this, actually my worry is when the indicator goes on/off/on/off...in blinkmode when off I have no white drivinglight in this setup...and I should have a drivinglight...I think I can show them I tried to take action and am serious....the instructions are not so clear on this....we will see at the test later. But thinking about it...I do have a driving light when the indicator is in use...the orange one on the side ! well....I guess I have to wait what the judge will say....
Another thing off the to-do list.....one small step closer to book the test ....
Ok, no real big updates, but I managed to get all the electrical little issues solved as good as possible.
I also did replace the 022.133.083 vacuum elbow
and of course the vacuumhoses connected to that.
I also wanted to replace all other vacuumhoses, but it was not so easy to find all correct diameters. it took some time and I had to use some alternatives. example : For the ones going to carcoal-canister-pipes in the engineroom (filter is up front) I ended up using reinforced fuel hose (no strong vacuum there, so should be OK).
Small things to do to get her ready for the big registrion/technical/DMV test, and in the meantime I am reading up in books and this forum to gather knowledge.
Thanks for the support sofar, you are very helpful !
Hi, today was a good day for my part-list.
I found a NOS 021 251 171 M
I have a 1.7 original exhaust, which needs an endpipe. this is the endpipe that start in the middle of the exhaust. It is No Longer Available, and the solution would be to buy a later type exhaust with the short endpipe.
I searched a long time, but found it....NOS in Germany, 600 miles away.
Today it arrived. Another part to be taken off from my list !!!!!
The original factory sticker is still attached:
I noticed somewhere along this thread that 914Rubber and PMB shops were disparaged... / or was that a joke?/..
They may be a little high on their pricing but they also, in most cases, are the only source for the products one needs in the 914 world we are bound to. As for Eric's work, it may be the only thing between you and death. I opt for his solution on brakes and other safety solutions every time.
Your car is of a great color. Hopefully the regs in the Netherlands are negotiable. If not, call Trump!
Hi Forrestkhaag, thanks for the compliment on the color. Not everybody likes it (my wife still is trying to get used to it for example :-) )
I like it !
the word "disparaged"...I had to look it up and I see it is a negative thing. No. In this post they are not mentioned as far as I know.
@SirAndy : yes, they can be fabricated easily, I did ask around when I could not find one, even stainless steel is an option, no problem. Even a simple pipe with 2 bends without the thicker part was an option (cheaper). I found this original NOS one, so I will not go that route anymore.
I found 3 NOS exhaust pipes if somebody else needs one.
Well..it sure is time for an update. It has been a while since I worked on the 914. Sometimes life gets in the way of...life :-)
I stayed reading the forum, but did not do a lot on my 914, so it is still not roadworthy.
But now we have a coronacrisis and I have to stay/work from home, all of a sudden I have a little time to tinker with my cars again.
And doing a little work got me motivated again and I have ordered several parts so when they arrive I will do some work on the 914.
I will post some updates of the work, I see there are several new and young members with a 914, maybe it will help or motivate them as well !
Stay healthy and safe !
so, to begin after a long time, the trick is to start with an easy task that gives success to boost the motivation.
One of the trunkwheels was missing, and I got one from a 914 owner that had a spare.
There is a lot of power on these bars...wow !
so...easy first task, succes....motivation boosted.
While I was in the trunk area, a new targaclip (I could still order it at Porsche NL) and a trunkseal installed, the new style.
So, maybe peanuts for most of you, but a great start after a 3 year 914-break for me !
Next are more challenging topics....fuelpump, brakes, wipers etc etc.
To be continued !
One step at a time will still get you there. Nice job.
Since I was working on the backside, I saw how dirty the chrome of the backbumper was.
Another easy job that came out OK.
A bit of spit and polish and a bit of spraypaint it is already a total difference
It is more mirrorring than my rearviewmirror !
Agin an easy job, but one that can be taking from the list.
Waiting for the last parts to come in to start working on the fuelpumpconversion.....
I put on the rear valance again after I took out the little dents and gave it a black spraypaint.
Looks like I gave the bumper a brickwrap, but it really became this shiny after the cleaning of it, really happy with the result.
The bumper and valence look great.
thanks Spoke !
today a busy 914 day. A small easy task : Wiperarms painted. New wiperblades.
and......a bit more challenging task.
I did replace the 3port fuelpump with a 2port pump setup. I created a separate topic for it so it can help others that want to do this.
Today another milestone, I replaced the firewall shifter bushing
And I created a tips&tricks topic for it under:
Frank, glad to see ya back at it. Love the colour.
Also nice write up on the firewall bushing. You’re a close second to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845 on the smart-ass comments Keep posting!
Ok, so on to the next thing on the list. Brakes.....a bit more challenging..
I ordered also the flex hoses for the rear.. They are cheap, but at first I sort of did not want to do them since I read here it is a major PITA job. But looking at them...they really looked old, and skipping this because it is difficult is the wrong approach
Rear hose replaced. I have to say...it was actually not much PITA guys !
I moved the fastenerclip sideways so it sticks out on the side and a screwdriver to wiggle and it was out. I was surprised.
Then to loosen the hose it was a bit fiddling under tehre. I was super happy I had safety goggles on, a lot of sand and dirt is falling down from that area if you are trying to get that done. (I am on my back, looking up...car on jackstands..not too much space.
Went relatively well....there are more easy jobs, but again...it was not the PITA as I expected.
Interesting to mention...the old hose was spanner 14. I could not see a brand or marking on it. New hose is Bilstein and was spanner 17.
The new caliper is now on with the handbrake attached and with the pads in, but not the spring.
I have to bleed the brakes and set the clearance of the rear pads to the disk first, after that put the springplate in again.
So...overall....very happy with how this went.
And since I went through the trouble of the flexhose...I cut the old one to see how it was.
I guess I did the right thing....
I did this on the left and right side, so another thing from the list done !
On to the next thingie on the list !
the difference in looks already is huge. Feels good to put a part like this on the car !
I did not realize it was looking bad, only when you put the new one next to it...
The car is looking great and good to see that you have a chance to work on it even if we are in the strangest of times
Just out of interest who did you use for shipping to Europe? You posted information about the mould resolution but nothing about the shipper
Interested as to who you considered and actually ended up using as I'm also considering shipping a car over
Keep the pictures coming
Nice work and approach to your projects. One at a time and when you wrap it up move on to the next project. Keeps you from going insane.
Thanks SixerJ !
I used SHIPDEI. I did use them before where I was extremely happy.But I think they did outsource part of this export to another company. I was not so happy with this transport overall but I do not know where it went wrong. But mistakes and issues can happen, it is how they deal with it, right ? And that could have been done way better !
The transport from buyer to port was arranged by myself, and that became a disaster and costed a lot more in the end. I would advice to also give that part to the shipping company and leave it their problem if things do not go as planned.
But it was a great learning experience and next time I will do it better :-)
Another thing done from the list.
Gearboxoil change and while we are at it...the speedodrive seals, inner and outer replaced.
To-Do list is already getting a lot smaller, still some interesting tasks to perform.....
a small task this time, but one from the list gone with this.
One was missing and one was broken, but I got some used jackstraps so now I have them. Installed them but not sure how the jack and tools should be under these straps, but they are now secured.
Looking great there Frank. Enjoy seeing your posts. I don’t know if there’s a wrong way
with regards to the jack. Mines been apart so long I don’t remember. Have a look at the manual or originality forum. I guess as long as it’s secured and tidy your good to go.
Keep at it.
Ok, time for the next thing on the list. Removal/disassembly of the front brakes.
Something I kept on moving forward on the list, but since the list is getting shorter, I can almost not do any cherrypicking anymore.
I have to say up front that disassembly of the frontcalipers was by far one the most challenging things I have done sofar. I rather do the flexible hoses in the rear again
These sucker-pistons were stuck. And that after sitting for 2,5 year or so ? wow, that went fast. I first removed the caliper and watching it sitting on the bench I thought : how can I ever get them out ?
I remounted them on the car and 'kicked' them loose using the brakepedal with a pad in between. then took them off the car again, removed the pad, and with a lot of swearing and blocking and holding and pushing with the airmethod....they came out.
Speed of sound.
I read online they could come flying out using the airmethod and that you have to watch your fingers. Well...all I can say is that I was happy I did not put my finger in between the pistons when one side came out.
Wow. We are talking E=MC2 force kind of thing with the speed of sound. You cannot see it come out, a loud bang is all that tells you it came out, which is of course the breaking of the soundbarrier, that is obvious.
Ok, time for the front brakes. In my last post I already took off the calipers and took the pistons out. My ears are still recovering from the loud bang they came out with.....
So....All sorted, cleaned, new parts and seals. ATE brakepiston grease for internals is used. Caliper could not be 'zinced' this time, because of corona they do not accept 'walk-ins' at the moment. But for the rest all redone.
As a quick reminder : This is what it looked like before the start:
Wheel could not be turned at this point. Calipers stuck. This car drove and braked when I bought it, standstill did not do it good...that goes very fast I have to say.
Then after the cleaning and repacking and turning etc:
Spins already much better. Clean look without the caliper. Shaved look. But we need a caliper.
The new parts for the caliper, pads, hardware and flexline:
And I dealt with the 20degree myth I had the positioners, so that helped me already 50%
And then all together. You see the new flexline as well in the picture.
A very rewarding job. I still have to bleed the brakes, but first the other side must undergo the same procedure, all stuff is prepared, so the other side will be next soon.
It feels really good that after this the wheel spins so freely by hand....yeah baby !
talking about humidity:
super difference !
another rewarding job and another tick on the to-do list !
Lookin great, keep it up.
Ok, time for something else !
The Curse Of The Rattling Rear Window
Rattling rear window, so interior is out, and rear window is out.
Old seal between window and car came out hard, in 1 piece. I did not have the 2 small pieces that are below the window on the lower sill, so I guess it was out before at some point in time.
Backpad needs some love and care, I will see how to repair it a bit, lower part backside is a bit crusty at some parts.
The old rubber bewteen window and engine lid was not re-usable
So, enter the dragon, a new one !
to be continued !
Good luck with your purchase
I also did what you're doing about fixing many little things when you buy the car. So far I have fixed 25 tiny to small things, mechanic one too to try to get it as perfect as I can. Not perfect but I have a good survivor.
While the interior was out for the re-sticking of the rear window, I noticed that behind the backpad I had some hungry rodents in the past over there.
They were not there for long, no droppings or smell but I guess they were a bit hungry. Porsche wires are a delicacy !
Interesting they even chewed total through one wire, they are not thick, but still a challenge for a small rodent you would think. I guess if you are really hungry you also eat copper !
But a new piece is already created, a great little job for a rainy day.
I ordered 'color-correct' wires to work with, at least the colors match up with the original situation.
I did not remember which terminal was 12V so I did use isolated endclamps on all to be sure.
So, this was a job NOT on the list. Always a surprise where one job leads to !
Wow great progress,I stopped making lists of jobs I just forge on as s#it happens and I'am slowly getting ahead and so happy doing it that way,works for me.
One of my fav colours you have,keep up the good work.
so, rear window is in again, tape across the lower horizontal glass (forgot that first) and the surrounding parts are back in, new seatbelts and also the new wiring for the backpad/interior light (see earlier post where the mice ate it) ....backpad back in....and the test to see if the light did work now....
Funny fact : @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11106 did his interior light work on the same day as me.
So....same(*) picture as @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11106
(*) not really the same, his came from sierraMadre and my interiorlight was what came with the car and clearly states 'made in mexico' and that is what is really noticable.
No idea what person designed this part, but what was he thinking ?? just put 'made in mexico'it all across the front lense ?? (I guess it is a beetle part)
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11106 (and others) so, the 'made in Mexico' did bother me the whole week. And I sorted it out and bought a used original 914 Hella one. Way better for the ease of mind
Made in Germany.
Another job from the list: Operation H4 (or maybe call it Operation Agent Orange, see below)
I still had the USA sealed beams in the headlights, and they are not allowed in the Netherlands and since I have to go for the government official testing to get a Dutch registration on the car, I had to change it to H4 units.
It was actually a straight forward job to swap them over, but the small screws that hold the Hella chrome ring were rusted stuck (1 one 1 side, 2 on other side) so I had to drill them out.
Nevertheless....all done and result is there !
Small tip for the person who is going to work on his/her headlights: place a small rag on the bottom of the headlight bucket before you take out the small screws. They can disappear in the draintube......
As you can see I have black plastic headlight surroundings, not painted and with 914 nrs in it. I followed the post about the white ones, but these are black and look original.
Oh yeah....Why Operation Agent Orange ?
Because I had to de-leave the headlight buckets, a lot more sand, dirt and leaves than expected in there.... since units, holder and ring were out, easy access to do some vacuumcleaning in there ! Now a clean space again.
Love the color and love the wheels ! Great score !
and welcome to 914 World
Did the originals say Made in WEST Germany?
many small to-do's are done, worth a lot to me but not really worth a lot of pictures to you.
Interior work.....I already did some work on the backpad and interiorlight, plus I added new securitybelts (the original ones did not retract in a good way anymore and that is a major thingie on the test that is coming)
- handbrakelever re-painted
- seat handles re-painted
- placed back carpets, seats and mats
- refitted the gearshiftknob and speakerholders
- new pedal rubber
- new driverdoor rubber
- plastic sills back in place
(it looks like a car again instead of a project which motivated a lot)
I also bought a Momo 8002 adapter I came across online, the solid version, to be used later....
After the Dutch inspection/Test end this month I first focus on the issues found (they always find something on an old car of course)
But before I am done to the point to be ready for the test, I still have some work to do........but the to-do list is getting smaller !
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24647 Thanks. Wheels are Pacific Italia's, with the 82mm PI caps (I put the caps on my search/wanted-list for some nicer ones)
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5782 I will check the headlightsurrounds for the markings later, they will come off again at some point.
yesterday afternoon the big day, the Nation Road/Safety test to get a license registration in NL to drive the car in Holland.
It has multiple layers since the car was never registered in Europe before, so some extra tests are required to make it road-legal here.
Paperwork, ID check, check if it is not build out of more than 2 cars, structural integrity check (rust), length, width, determine weight of the car, and then enter the technical area.
The Technical Area was the part why I was a bit nervous. They check everything really strict and since I did a lot to the car, a lot could come out of it...
did I do a good job ?
this is the scale where they determine the weight of the car, one of the checks/tests
Short sad version : it failed the test.
Emotional version: why fail it over such small defects ?!?!
Optimistic version : it only failed over 2 easy thingies, easy to solve
Everything was in great order, also the brakes (that cost me a lot of money, time and energy), lights, tires, electrics, play, steering, shocks etc etc all in good order.
It failed because of two things:
1) damaged rubber dustcover of the steering balljoints
2) left windscreenwasher nozzle was not effective enough (it worked, but not good enough)
So, at first I was disappointed the car failed (actually it meant that I failed), then I realized it is actually roadworthy and legal after those thingies are fixed !
But that will take some time, since due to Covid19 the earliest re-check will be about 6 weeks from now.
This gives me some time to find and replace the dustcoverboots and fix the nozzle defect.
It was a day filled with different emotions, and I slept good last night (better than the night before the test )
PS a good thing to mention: I was not allowed to drive the car on the Dutch roads, because it is not registered yet. That gives some challenges if you want to test stuff like the brakes.
Yesterday, at the day of the test, you get a license registration for the day to drive it so you can come to the teststation.
This means I really drove it for the first time since I bought it, which was also exciting.
In the end this day was a good test for man and machine....
Hey Frank that's a great result, its a shame that there is a 6 weeks wait until you can get the retest but at least you know its road ready
washer squirter, really i've had my car for almost 12 years, and they have never worked, i am installing the switch from Carmagic soon and pump from 914sixer, but up to this point i have just applied Rainx windshield treatment, wipers work so i've never had an issue even in severly heavy rain storm, had great visibility, but oh well you have to play within the system you have, you should be able to fix that and maybe its just low pressure in your tire/bottle that didnt allow for this to work, but loook at the lines, they rot out at the connection in the steering column and under the dash make sure you are not squirting water on the floor either. your local auto parts should have tubing , but if the nossle is bad and clogged then 914rubber has replacement ones.
Good luck and look forward to your next update being a fully licensed roadworthy car!!
Good work - two easily correctable things but it's a shame to have to wait so long for the re-test.
When you go back, do they check everything again or just the items that "failed"? Do you get the same inspector?
Thanks all for the positive replies.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11106 I should have mentioned I converted the washer system to an electric one, using the original washer reservoir with a pump attached on it, small pushbutton at the dash, using one of the already present holes under the dashmaterial next to the sigarettelighter.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21628 They will only check what is marked as failed in the report. It is possible I get the same inspector, but he mentioned for these universal issues any inspector should be able to perform the check.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19896 - Congratulations on passing all but 2 very minor issues that are easily addressed.
I wish we had stricter vehicle registration laws here in the USA- especially CA. I regularly see complete piece of craX cars which are currently registered rolling down the road. The Highway Patrol (police whose main job is the enforcement of the CA Vehicle Code) do nothing as these rolling wrecks drive right by them.
When I was a lot younger, we had surprise CHP inspection stations that were set-up on major roads and your car was put through a basic inspection to see if it was road worthy. That was stopped probably 35 years ago unfortunately.
Admin Edit: Sorry... had to remove the political comment.
Car looks great BTW!
Thanks for the update.
Yep - it's a beauty - you'll be free and clear soon!
so, the parts arrived, since it was hard to find just the rubber dustcovers, I thought...why not change the whole thing, right ?
They are old and new ones do not break the bank.
before (soaking in WD40):
The rubber bootcover was a goner for sure. I could tear parts of easily as you can see.
How could I have missed that going through all stiff I wonder now.....
So, the new part installed (on both sides of course)
With a selflocking nut instead of a castell nut with pin.
I also fixed the not-good-enough-spraying-windscreenwasher on the driver side (the other item it failed on). It turned out the valve that is in in front of the washernozzle was clogged. I could not get it free, so I deleted it and now it works fine.
The next test possible is in 5 weeks to show I fixed the items it failed on previously.
It takes so long because of Covid-19. A full test is 12 weeks waiting time at the moment.
Untill then, no driving is allowed....... waiting waiting waiting......
Ok....BigDay#2...Today the new test for a road-legal-registration in the Netherlands after Test#1 failed me on small issues (see earlier post).
Fixes were done and I drove there on a 1day temp license (that is the white homebrew plate on the car)
Always scary to drive there since it is its second run ever here and I have to ride highways but also need to go through a long tunnel. You never know right ?
I made it in 1 piece, got during my ride there several people looking at the car (welll...I guess they were not looking at me) and some thumbs up, That is always cool.
Inside it is not allowed to take pics, so you have to take my word the test was done
So...tested.... previous issues extra checked and when we were done, we close the drivers door, but it would not latch..and the inspector said that was a no-go if the door did lot click in its lock.
Unbelievable...I never had that before and now it is killing my test ?!?!
I tried shutting it like 15 times but it did not latch. He told me to take a seat and he would get a fellow inspector to discuss the status.
So, I close the door to walk away and it latched. ...so...we both look at each other and he marks the form as PASSED !
Next is to do a tax thingie on the car online (done afterwards immediately) and wait for the licenseplate registration to arrive (in about 1 week).
Then insure it and have the plates made. After they are on the car it will be road-legal !
Almost there....and again I feel like I am allowed to use the banana icon !
Wow, what an journey. Congratulations, have fun.
What an exciting story, indeed. Sounds like the inspections in the Netherlands are even tougher to pass than here in good old Germany.
Nice Pictures, too! Hope to meet you some day at an European 914 meeting.
Congratulations! You are on the down hill side now and will be cruising around in that beauty in no time.
What a well-earned banana! Here, I'll give you another
I don't know how I missed this thread, but better late than never
Great car...and a great story.
I am very happy for you.
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Thanks for the feedback and kind words ! That really means a lot in my motivation to work on my 914.
To the rest that reads my posts...thanks a lot for your interest in my topic.
Hi Frank, I'm working on a 914 restoration right now and have to go to the RDW at some point next year (I hope/guess...). Any thing special on the tail lights? Are the original US spec tail oke for the inspector?
Nice car and nice color...!
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24 yes, let us see what the world looks like in Spring 2021 !
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=23255 : in NL you are allowed to have the US spec taillights. That was in the past not allowed, but now it is.
Headlights were US sealed Beams....that was not allowed (unless they give a correct lightpattern in the test, but they did not) so those were replaced with Euro H4 units.
For the indicatorlights (not the sidemarkers) I had to change the lenses for the most easy solution since they also act as drivinglight. Sidemarkers were allowed, they are not blinking on my car, just lights. Good luck ! Ask me in case of issues.
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