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Posted by: OU812 Jun 25 2016, 06:00 PM

Have the Opportunity to purchase a GEX built 2.0 liter out of a 74 914 that was involved if a front end wreck.....may buy the complete car depending on $$$$.

The engine has a little over 2,000 miles on it and has the
2100 cc, Power Master upgrade - Pick up the additional HP to climb hills, Electronic Balancing - For longer life and a smooth running engine. Counterweighted Crankshaft - Allows engine to run smoother and ultimately to last longer.
alt Maxi Oil Pump - Closer tolerances than a stock pump, provides added volume and increased oil pressure during low speed operation.
high output alternator and the Compufire Ignition.

The engine starts and runs fine, but no longer has any warranty on it. trying to come up with a value, because the guys wife is tried of looking at it and he just wants it gone. (think its the cause of many arguments)

I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.

Anyone have info on GEX?

Thanks

Posted by: Tom_T Jun 25 2016, 06:04 PM

It seems to me that GEX doesn't have a great rep for their rebuilds IIRC.

Hopefully someone with 1st hand experience can weigh in on here.

Good Luck, but be cautious! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 25 2016, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 25 2016, 05:00 PM) *

Have the Opportunity to purchase a GEX built 2.0 liter out of a 74 914 that was involved if a front end wreck.....may buy the complete car depending on $$$$.

The engine has a little over 2,000 miles on it and has the
2100 cc, Power Master upgrade - Pick up the additional HP to climb hills, Electronic Balancing - For longer life and a smooth running engine. Counterweighted Crankshaft - Allows engine to run smoother and ultimately to last longer.
alt Maxi Oil Pump - Closer tolerances than a stock pump, provides added volume and increased oil pressure during low speed operation.
high output alternator and the Compufire Ignition.

The engine starts and runs fine, but no longer has any warranty on it. trying to come up with a value, because the guys wife is tried of looking at it and he just wants it gone. (think its the cause of many arguments)

I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.

Anyone have info on GEX?

Thanks


Use the Search function

Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 25 2016, 07:16 PM

this took 2 seconds, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=df4e3edfc2a7c45747cec35c374c0e85&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=GEX+engine

every question you ask has been asked time and time again. No post should say

QUOTE
I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.
unless you did a search and read the threads that will follow......

YMMV

Posted by: bdstone914 Jun 25 2016, 08:25 PM

How much are they asking? Might be ok it the price is low

Posted by: 914_teener Jun 25 2016, 08:39 PM

Buy it.

4 out of 5 engine guru's believe that GEX is a solid engine.

You've already stated the facts.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 25 2016, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Jun 25 2016, 09:39 PM) *

Buy it.

4 out of 5 engine guru's believe that GEX is a solid engine.

You've already stated the facts.


That's a rather juvenile statement.

Never said 4 out of 5 engine gurus said anything about GEX engines.

And if you read my post were I did use that phrase I said it was incorrect.

So now no one on the site ever makes a mistake or has a Misstatement.

Thanks for your input though.



Posted by: OU812 Jun 25 2016, 09:01 PM

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 25 2016, 08:16 PM) *

this took 2 seconds, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=df4e3edfc2a7c45747cec35c374c0e85&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=GEX+engine

every question you ask has been asked time and time again. No post should say
QUOTE
I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.
unless you did a search and read the threads that will follow......

YMMV


I did use the search function and got very little info.

That is why I asked the question.

So does this mean the next time someone asks why their coil is overheating, or why they have a dead spot while getting the car up to speed, we are to say "use the search function"

Can't understand why some of you are so willing to help others and share your expertise and opinions but not me.

Just don't quite understand the animosity.

But Thanks for help anyway.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 25 2016, 09:04 PM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Jun 25 2016, 09:25 PM) *

How much are they asking? Might be ok it the price is low


He wants a offer

That why I am asking for input.

Thanks

Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 25 2016, 09:14 PM

Again, you stated you had heard no info good or bad, I said use search as there is plenty of threads with negative remarks, I have no personal knowledge of their product other than what has been written here. That alone has caused me to steer clear of them, you might not, that is your choice. The search function brings over a decade worth of info on most every subject, that is why I said to use it first. In this case it will lead you to first hand experiences, and some of those members might not be online during the run of this thread and you would never read their responses.

and yes, to your new question always use the search first, why wait for the correct response when it may only be a click away.



QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 25 2016, 08:01 PM) *

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 25 2016, 08:16 PM) *

this took 2 seconds, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=df4e3edfc2a7c45747cec35c374c0e85&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=GEX+engine

every question you ask has been asked time and time again. No post should say
QUOTE
I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.
unless you did a search and read the threads that will follow......

YMMV


I did use the search function and got very little info.

That is why I asked the question.

So does this mean the next time someone asks why their coil is overheating, or why they have a dead spot while getting the car up to speed, we are to say "use the search function"

Can't understand why some of you are so willing to help others and share your expertise and opinions but not me.

Just don't quite understand the animosity.

But Thanks for help anyway.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 25 2016, 09:31 PM

This question also included the wrecked car and what the engine would be worth in its present state. So yes part was quality of build which may be found in a previous post but not what may be the individual response regarding value of a engine of this type with no warranty and the wrecked car that comes with it.

Those answers cannot be found through a search function, they are probably more individual to the thread was my point.

Thanks again



QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 25 2016, 10:14 PM) *

Again, you stated you had heard no info good or bad, I said use search as there is plenty of threads with negative remarks, I have no personal knowledge of their product other than what has been written here. That alone has caused me to steer clear of them, you might not, that is your choice. The search function brings over a decade worth of info on most every subject, that is why I said to use it first. In this case it will lead you to first hand experiences, and some of those members might not be online during the run of this thread and you would never read their responses.

and yes, to your new question always use the search first, why wait for the correct response when it may only be a click away.



QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 25 2016, 08:01 PM) *

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 25 2016, 08:16 PM) *

this took 2 seconds, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=df4e3edfc2a7c45747cec35c374c0e85&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=GEX+engine

every question you ask has been asked time and time again. No post should say
QUOTE
I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.
unless you did a search and read the threads that will follow......

YMMV


I did use the search function and got very little info.

That is why I asked the question.

So does this mean the next time someone asks why their coil is overheating, or why they have a dead spot while getting the car up to speed, we are to say "use the search function"

Can't understand why some of you are so willing to help others and share your expertise and opinions but not me.

Just don't quite understand the animosity.

But Thanks for help anyway.



Posted by: Mueller Jun 25 2016, 09:32 PM

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gex+rebuilt+engines

See above link...based on that quick read unless it came with a transferable warranty in writing and it cost a grand or so, I'd pass.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 25 2016, 09:36 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 25 2016, 10:32 PM) *

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gex+rebuilt+engines

See above link...based on that quick read unless it came with a transferable warranty in writing and it cost a grand or so, I'd pass.


Thank you very much appreciated

Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 07:54 AM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 25 2016, 10:32 PM) *

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gex+rebuilt+engines

See above link...based on that quick read unless it came with a transferable warranty in writing and it cost a grand or so, I'd pass.


Thanks all for the input.

I did what Mueller suggested and offered the seller a grand for the car, three boxes of parts (including EFI parts) two tatga's (one of them a Saratoga) the GEX engine and 5 of the four lug Fuchs. Not sure if the Fuchs are orig or rep but if I can purchase at this price don't think it really matters.
Car also has the Blaunkpundt radio as well.

As one of the members said here "she's got his balls in her purse"

We will see what happens ....

Thanks again for the help...GEX really doesn't have to good of a rep.....

Posted by: somd914 Jun 26 2016, 09:57 AM

If you look at the prices GEX sells remanufactured engines for, you can't even begin to buy respectable parts and have typical machining performed for a DYI rebuild for those prices. That alone is a big red flag.

For me, a GEX engine is worth very little - nothing more than a questionable core. Good luck.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 10:08 AM

QUOTE(somd914 @ Jun 26 2016, 10:57 AM) *

If you look at the prices GEX sells remanufactured engines for, you can't even begin to buy respectable parts and have typical machining performed for a DYI rebuild for those prices. That alone is a big red flag.

For me, a GEX engine is worth very little - nothing more than a questionable core. Good luck.


Primarily buying for the cumlitive amount of parts and goodies on the car.

The engine is really secondary at this point.

I see the value in the engine is in the Weber down drafts, external oil cooler, electronic ignition and other associated hard parts.


Posted by: SirAndy Jun 26 2016, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 25 2016, 05:00 PM) *
I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.

Try searching for GEX ...
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Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 26 2016, 11:34 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 26 2016, 09:25 AM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 25 2016, 05:00 PM) *
I haven't heard anything good or bad regarding GEX and their quality.

Try searching for GEX ...
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Posted by: Rand Jun 26 2016, 11:54 AM

As an aside, what's your most successful search phrase/keywords to search with? Searching GEX turns up nothing. Yet I know there are tons of threads about them going back well over a decade. I've tried "+GEX +engine*" but that brings up a lot of other unrelated results. I usually end up using google, with "site:914world.com" in front of the keywords. But I'd be interested in knowing what you've found works best.

Posted by: FlatIV Jun 26 2016, 12:37 PM

This may be helpful or not. It uses google to search the site.

Go to google and type:
gex site:914world.com

Posted by: westtexass2k Jun 26 2016, 12:54 PM

I have tried the search function on several items and spend hours reading thru a 32 page post to find that it had absolutely nothing to do with my search. So either I am using the search function improperly or it doesn't work well for me.
I have had the use the search function comment on most of my questions.

Posted by: Mueller Jun 26 2016, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 26 2016, 10:54 AM) *

As an aside, what's your most successful search phrase/keywords to search with? Searching GEX turns up nothing. Yet I know there are tons of threads about them going back well over a decade. I've tried "+GEX +engine*" but that brings up a lot of other unrelated results. I usually end up using google, with "site:914world.com" in front of the keywords. But I'd be interested in knowing what you've found works best.



OP has a tendency of not searching anywhere for anything 1st...he might not know what google is....


There was no reason to ask on 914world what a NACA duct is, none at all.
Would it be a different definition here? No.

I can see learning what a NACA duct is elsewhere and then asking how one has used one on a 914. That makes sense.


Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 02:02 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 26 2016, 02:07 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 26 2016, 10:54 AM) *

As an aside, what's your most successful search phrase/keywords to search with? Searching GEX turns up nothing. Yet I know there are tons of threads about them going back well over a decade. I've tried "+GEX +engine*" but that brings up a lot of other unrelated results. I usually end up using google, with "site:914world.com" in front of the keywords. But I'd be interested in knowing what you've found works best.



OP has a tendency of not searching anywhere for anything 1st...he might not know what google is....


There was no reason to ask on 914world what a NACA duct is, none at all.
Would it be a different definition here? No.

I can see learning what a NACA duct is elsewhere and then asking how one has used one on a 914. That makes sense.


I am so blessed to have mueller determining what I do and not do searches on.

As I have said before, many ask many questions in the garage that clearly have been covered before and probably could be found using the search function.

The search function here isn't the best as others have attested and if I wanted to google everything, why would we even need the World?

Posted by: Rand Jun 26 2016, 02:07 PM

QUOTE
if I wanted to google everything, why would we even need the World?

The point about google was to use it to search 914world.com. This site is where the information is. For example:
https://www.google.com/#q=gex+engine*+site:914world.com

I also set up a custom search that is helpful. For example:
https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=013769333545032935419%3A4t8j_fm9oky&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&q=gex%20engine#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=gex%20engine&gsc.page=1

Just wondered if others have found better tricks for finding these threads.

Posted by: Mueller Jun 26 2016, 02:13 PM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 01:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 26 2016, 02:07 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 26 2016, 10:54 AM) *

As an aside, what's your most successful search phrase/keywords to search with? Searching GEX turns up nothing. Yet I know there are tons of threads about them going back well over a decade. I've tried "+GEX +engine*" but that brings up a lot of other unrelated results. I usually end up using google, with "site:914world.com" in front of the keywords. But I'd be interested in knowing what you've found works best.



OP has a tendency of not searching anywhere for anything 1st...he might not know what google is....


There was no reason to ask on 914world what a NACA duct is, none at all.
Would it be a different definition here? No.

I can see learning what a NACA duct is elsewhere and then asking how one has used one on a 914. That makes sense.


I am so blessed to have mueller determining what I do and not do searches on.

As I have said before, many ask many questions in the garage that clearly have been covered before and probably could be found using the search function.

The search function here isn't the best as others have attested and if I wanted to google everything, why would we even need the World?


If you ask a question you expect a response yes?

Someone has to take the time to reply, sure it is a pure voluntary response but don't you think it is a tad selfish to ask someone (anyone) to give you an answer to something so obvious and not 914 specific?

Might as well ask on World "why is the sky blue"? I mean why search on google, this way you get a personal response that is all your own.







Posted by: Montreal914 Jun 26 2016, 02:21 PM

$1000 for a wreck with a 2.0 FI engine, Fuchs and a Saratoga, that would be an awesome deal (even for a GEX).

Sell of everything in parts and build yourself a nice fresh engine with the sales profit. smash.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 26 2016, 02:23 PM

Double check on the parameters you're using. Make sure:

You select the correct sub forum
Set the search dates correctly.
The 'titles or text?'

Start broad and then narrow.

Mike, why even hang out here if one has to google because a simple answer, instantly, is bothersome? Why take a member to task over it? The NACA topic had me perplexed. I just waited for someone to clarify. Simple...

Posted by: stugray Jun 26 2016, 03:49 PM

I just googled "why is Mueller such a dick to OU812" and it turned up nothing related to this conversation.

Is it OK to ask that question here or do I need permission first?

Posted by: HAM Inc Jun 26 2016, 05:02 PM

QUOTE(somd914 @ Jun 26 2016, 08:57 AM) *

If you look at the prices GEX sells remanufactured engines for, you can't even begin to buy respectable parts and have typical machining performed for a DYI rebuild for those prices. That alone is a big red flag.

For me, a GEX engine is worth very little - nothing more than a questionable core. Good luck.

GEX engines are not remanufactured, they are rebuilt. There is a legal distinction, and GEX engines don't even come close to meeting the reman standard.

GEX rebuilt T4 cylinder heads consistently had the worst workmanship I have ever seen in a rebuilt cylinder head. I saw a LOT of them and every single one was a hacked up mess. Around 2005 I stopped accepting any heads with a GEX stamp.

Their engines are also garbage. I would offer no more than scrap value for the engine because there is a very good chance that you will salvage nothing of significant value from a GEX "powerplant".

Handle it like a turd.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 06:24 PM

QUOTE(HAM Inc @ Jun 26 2016, 06:02 PM) *

QUOTE(somd914 @ Jun 26 2016, 08:57 AM) *

If you look at the prices GEX sells remanufactured engines for, you can't even begin to buy respectable parts and have typical machining performed for a DYI rebuild for those prices. That alone is a big red flag.

For me, a GEX engine is worth very little - nothing more than a questionable core. Good luck.

GEX engines are not remanufactured, they are rebuilt. There is a legal distinction, and GEX engines don't even come close to meeting the reman standard.

GEX rebuilt T4 cylinder heads consistently had the worst workmanship I have ever seen in a rebuilt cylinder head. I saw a LOT of them and every single one was a hacked up mess. Around 2005 I stopped accepting any heads with a GEX stamp.

Their engines are also garbage. I would offer no more than scrap value for the engine because there is a very good chance that you will salvage nothing of significant value from a GEX "powerplant".

Handle it like a turd.


Thanks for the info HAM...

See now this response is something I would never have gotten from a "Search function"

And although I am not paying HAM or Mueller for their replies, I do appreciate and consider what they say.

Another thing that can cause search functions to be inaccurate is time. Various metrics can change over time rendering the info put forth in the non current post / thread as incorrect. Prices change, technics change, suppliers change, we change.

That is why while a post found as part of search can provide helpful info, It is not the end all be all in the quest for a certain query and shouldn't be used to hang your hat on.

Thank you

Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 26 2016, 06:30 PM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 05:24 PM) *





See now this response is something I would never have gotten from a "Search function"



Thank you



WRONG... on the link to threads I posted using"GEX engine" as my search parameters this http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=158215&hl=GEX+engine Has HAM's response from 5 years ago

QUOTE
I have seen work from both GEX and JCS over the years. I can not understate how poor the workmanship was. The only hope you have with these companies is if they happened to build your engine from a good core. They will build off any core, regardless of the condition. If you read my used T4 head policy on my website you find that I will not even consider heads stamped JCS or GEX for re-manufacture.

I bet you would be hard pressed to find a single person who has bought more than one engine from them, or anyone who has dealt with them who would deal with them again.

If you want to give your money away, give it to charity. At least you'll feel warm and fuzzy afterward and not homicidal.


ar15.gif ar15.gif stirthepot.gif stirthepot.gif

Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 26 2016, 07:30 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 05:24 PM) *





See now this response is something I would never have gotten from a "Search function"



Thank you



WRONG... on the link to threads I posted using"GEX engine" as my search parameters this http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=158215&hl=GEX+engine Has HAM's response from 5 years ago

QUOTE
I have seen work from both GEX and JCS over the years. I can not understate how poor the workmanship was. The only hope you have with these companies is if they happened to build your engine from a good core. They will build off any core, regardless of the condition. If you read my used T4 head policy on my website you find that I will not even consider heads stamped JCS or GEX for re-manufacture.

I bet you would be hard pressed to find a single person who has bought more than one engine from them, or anyone who has dealt with them who would deal with them again.

If you want to give your money away, give it to charity. At least you'll feel warm and fuzzy afterward and not homicidal.




ar15.gif ar15.gif stirthepot.gif stirthepot.gif



WRONG the post while simular is different from the reply recently sent to me.

If you want to make it a contest go ahead.

I am going to do a search AND ask questions just like the rest do....

If you don't like it.....don't respond....or be like some of the other intolerant members here and put me on your ignore list.

That's another function that I find to be so silly. We are adults here and we need a button to push to ignore someone? Come on!

If I want to ignore someone(which I don't) I would ignore them, I don't need some stinkin button to do it.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 07:22 PM

QUOTE(stugray @ Jun 26 2016, 04:49 PM) *

I just googled "why is Mueller such a dick to OU812" and it turned up nothing related to this conversation.

Is it OK to ask that question here or do I need permission first?


I just think we all have ideas on how things should run around here, and Mueller has his.

No worries he has his opinions, which isn't a crime.

I would just hope even if we disagree we are at least tolerant of each other's views

I think it would be difficult to be one of the administrators. Can you imagine how hard it would be to keep quiet when you really wanted to let someone have it?

Geez

Posted by: 396 Jun 26 2016, 07:33 PM

Since "this" posting is at the top again, my thoughts are that several have added some valuable replies to the original question posted.
But some how you still do not accept the answers, and thus continue to ask the same question. I hope this tread will not mushroom into another five pages of the same questions from you, similar to your posting on why Porsche didn't simply keep carburetors on all their cars. I have a high school friend that's a Master Porsche tech....if I asked him your question on carbs vs the current fuel injection. I think he might ask me, what century are you living in.

Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 26 2016, 07:57 PM

HAM's responses to this thread and the one from 11' are not identical, true, but both specify that he does not accept their heads and his opinion on quality seem to be the same in each answer. headbang.gif

I guess unless the answer is directed to you specifically it is insufficient?

I think your grasping at straws to try and make some point that " search" has limited redeeming use and every question should be asked and answered over and over for each new Poster.

here are some rarely asked topics you can get a head start on.

What size tires fit under a narrow body?

will 7" Fuchs fit?

what vin #'s fall under the "S" edition?

Big 4 or 6 which is better?

is yellow faster?

Mayo or Miracle Whip?









QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 06:13 PM) *

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 26 2016, 07:30 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 05:24 PM) *





See now this response is something I would never have gotten from a "Search function"



Thank you



WRONG... on the link to threads I posted using"GEX engine" as my search parameters this http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=158215&hl=GEX+engine Has HAM's response from 5 years ago

QUOTE
I have seen work from both GEX and JCS over the years. I can not understate how poor the workmanship was. The only hope you have with these companies is if they happened to build your engine from a good core. They will build off any core, regardless of the condition. If you read my used T4 head policy on my website you find that I will not even consider heads stamped JCS or GEX for re-manufacture.

I bet you would be hard pressed to find a single person who has bought more than one engine from them, or anyone who has dealt with them who would deal with them again.

If you want to give your money away, give it to charity. At least you'll feel warm and fuzzy afterward and not homicidal.




ar15.gif ar15.gif stirthepot.gif stirthepot.gif



WRONG the post while simular is different from the reply recently sent to me.

If you want to make it a contest go ahead.

I am going to do a search AND ask questions just like the rest do....

If you don't like it.....don't respond....or be like some of the other intolerant members here and put me on your ignore list.

That's another function that I find to be so silly. We are adults here and we need a button to push to ignore someone? Come on!

If I want to ignore someone(which I don't) I would ignore them, I don't need some stinkin button to do it.


Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 08:09 PM

QUOTE(396 @ Jun 26 2016, 08:33 PM) *

Since "this" posting is at the top again, my thoughts are that several have added some valuable replies to the original question posted.
But some how you still do not accept the answers, and thus continue to ask the same question. I hope this tread will not mushroom into another five pages of the same questions from you, similar to your posting on why Porsche didn't simply keep carburetors on all their cars. I have a high school friend that's a Master Porsche tech....if I asked him your question on carbs vs the current fuel injection. I think he might ask me, what century are you living in.


Respectfully,
You need to read the threads

This one because I have accepted and thanked everyone for their comments and advise.
In fact I made the offer that Mueller suggested and am waiting for a counter or acceptance. This post helped me educate the seller why his GEX is not what he thought it was. I would also hazard a guess it has maybe informed some who haven't weighed in but read through the thread, that may now steer clear of a GEX product.

The EFI post you refer to morphed from me having serious questions regarding why certain decisions were made. At the end of the thread I called out many of my first statements as being incorrect and corrected myself.

If indeed your friend is the school teacher and master mechanic you say he is, I don't think he'd ask what century I live in because that is obvious. I would bet he would say "he has some good questions, but let's educate him on why his questions are wrong and why Porsche did what history shows."

Thank you


Posted by: OU812 Jun 26 2016, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 26 2016, 08:57 PM) *

HAM's responses to this thread and the one from 11' are not identical, true, but both specify that he does not accept their heads and his opinion on quality seem to be the same in each answer. headbang.gif

I guess unless the answer is directed to you specifically it is insufficient?

I think your grasping at straws to try and make some point that " search" has limited redeeming use and every question should be asked and answered over and over for each new Poster.

here are some rarely asked topics you can get a head start on.

What size tires fit under a narrow body?

will 7" Fuchs fit?

what vin #'s fall under the "S" edition?

Big 4 or 6 which is better?

is yellow faster?

Mayo or Miracle Whip?


How can you possibly be so ignorant.....of course yellow is faster

Unless your mepstein then red is.






QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 06:13 PM) *

QUOTE(G e o r g e @ Jun 26 2016, 07:30 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 26 2016, 05:24 PM) *





See now this response is something I would never have gotten from a "Search function"



Thank you



WRONG... on the link to threads I posted using"GEX engine" as my search parameters this http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=158215&hl=GEX+engine Has HAM's response from 5 years ago

QUOTE
I have seen work from both GEX and JCS over the years. I can not understate how poor the workmanship was. The only hope you have with these companies is if they happened to build your engine from a good core. They will build off any core, regardless of the condition. If you read my used T4 head policy on my website you find that I will not even consider heads stamped JCS or GEX for re-manufacture.

I bet you would be hard pressed to find a single person who has bought more than one engine from them, or anyone who has dealt with them who would deal with them again.

If you want to give your money away, give it to charity. At least you'll feel warm and fuzzy afterward and not homicidal.




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WRONG the post while simular is different from the reply recently sent to me.

If you want to make it a contest go ahead.

I am going to do a search AND ask questions just like the rest do....

If you don't like it.....don't respond....or be like some of the other intolerant members here and put me on your ignore list.

That's another function that I find to be so silly. We are adults here and we need a button to push to ignore someone? Come on!

If I want to ignore someone(which I don't) I would ignore them, I don't need some stinkin button to do it.


Posted by: Jake Raby Jun 27 2016, 06:12 AM

I also refuse to base an engine from any crankcase with the signature "gold" paint job from GEX, or those 3 letters stamped in the case, or any part.

I won't even consider it. I throw it away.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2016, 08:09 AM

Damn quotes. Screens of them. Why? Can't you guys keep track of a 'conversation'? Fucking waste of time and I have a new callus on my finger, not middle, from all the scrolling.

Btw. The GEX engines are old news. They're cheap for a reason.

Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Jun 27 2016, 09:31 AM

Pay attention Kevin!

Posted by: Mark Henry Jun 27 2016, 09:38 AM

I've had several in the scrap pile rolleyes.gif

I can't tell you how many peeps have left the hobby do to the disappointment and expense of a GEX engine. dry.gif

And Len is right on about the heads, worst garbage you will ever see. wacko.gif


Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2016, 09:55 AM

I try Curt. All of the quotes get in the way and are a HUGE distraction. I'm getting old and feeble. wink.gif

Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 27 2016, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 27 2016, 08:55 AM) *

I try Curt. All of the quotes get in the way and are a HUGE distraction. I'm getting old and feeble. wink.gif

Come on Kevin their not that bad.



















































































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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2016, 10:06 AM

More quotes AND a 'wait for it'. AARGH! Get the hell off of my lawn!

Posted by: G e o r g e Jun 27 2016, 10:09 AM

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Posted by: 914_teener Jun 27 2016, 10:18 AM

Just use the ignore function Kevin....makes it a lot shorter.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2016, 10:19 AM

Like ignoring a toothache?

Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Jun 27 2016, 10:52 AM

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Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 27 2016, 11:05 AM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 27 2016, 09:19 AM) *

Like ignoring a toothache?


More like going out in I-5 traffic at 4PM. biggrin.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2016, 11:15 AM

That 4pm business is easy to ignore. I practice daily. The prime reason I IGNORE teener Tuesday's. Not leaving my house at 1pm for a burger in Seattle, or points north, at 6. This thread has shot straight to hell. Turn it in to a kegger?





























What was I saying? Hard to keep track with all of the quotes.

Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 27 2016, 11:32 AM

[quote name='rhodyguy' date='Jun 27 2016, 10:15 AM' post='2364608'
What was I saying? Hard to keep track with all of the quotes.
[/quote]

I don't think the quotes are the problem. shades.gif

Posted by: OU812 Jun 27 2016, 07:42 PM

Just got home from work.....some of us still have to unlike all you old retired bastards out there.

The seller with the wreck and all of the EFI parts, Fuchs and Saratoga top just called and we settled on 1050.00 and a case of Grainbelt Beer.

Just so you all Know I will be pulling all the goodies, Carbs, Manifolds and electronics off of the GEX and give the rest of it to a buddy of mine who wants to turn it into a gas powered air compressor. Had never heard of it before but he converts it to run on two of the four cylinders while the remaining two do the air compressing.

He already had one that he made from a old V dub engine, its mounted on a home built trailer with a 500 gallon tank. I had never seen it before. He fired it up for me last night and boy does it make the air......It will run two 90 pound jackhammers full bore and not run out of air.

Maybe I found a new use for all the GEX engines out there but then again maybe not.

Buy the way.....Nice to see you back Cabinetmaker, thought you were lost forever bud.

Oh and "I've got blistas on my fingas!"

Pay attention Kevin!

Posted by: OU812 Jun 27 2016, 07:59 PM

Just pulled off the web, but I think My buddy makes his own kit

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Thanks

Posted by: Rand Jun 27 2016, 08:36 PM

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2016, 08:41 PM

Does the tank hold compressed air to start the t-1 engine? Sounds like a good parts score. I look forward to the ads. OH BOY!!!! The firecrackers have just started. A week of this crap. No fun.

Posted by: Rand Jun 27 2016, 08:48 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 27 2016, 07:41 PM) *

.......OH BOY!!!! The firecrackers have just started. A week of this crap. No fun.

Oh man, I miss getting fireworks at the reservations. Maybe you should join in. Launch some tubers back. Potato guns pack a thump. laugh.gif

Posted by: OU812 Jun 27 2016, 08:52 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 27 2016, 09:41 PM) *

Does the tank hold compressed air to start the t-1 engine? Sounds like a good parts score. I look forward to the ads. OH BOY!!!! The firecrackers have just started. A week of this crap. No fun.


No his has a 12v starter just like it did when mounted in the car.

Fireworks aren't legal at least the good ones in Mn. Most of us have to drive to
Wisconsin or North Dakota to get the big mortars and Rockets....

But yeah they've already started here to.

Unless your talking about a different type of fireworks!

Posted by: OU812 Jun 27 2016, 09:00 PM

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???


No this is not Woody...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?

Posted by: Rand Jun 27 2016, 09:08 PM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Wood%? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???


No this is not Wood%...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?

Did I say Wood% was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.

Posted by: OU812 Jun 27 2016, 09:18 PM

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???


No this is not Woody...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?

Did I say Woody was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.


Besides a clambake all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
Hurupff

Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 28 2016, 10:33 AM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 11:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???


No this is not Woody...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?

Did I say Woody was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.


Besides a clambake all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
Hurupff


Are you surfing Lake Harriet? There are no waves worth a surfboard in Minnesota blink.gif

Posted by: OU812 Jun 28 2016, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Jun 28 2016, 11:33 AM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 11:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???


No this is not Woody...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?

Did I say Woody was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.


Besides a clambake all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
Hurupff


Are you surfing Lake Harriet? There are no waves worth a surfboard in Minnesota blink.gif



Surfing on the big lake they called 'gitche gumee'
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and crew was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early.

Those were some waves

Posted by: veekry9 Jun 28 2016, 05:17 PM

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Lake Erie,likely Long Point off the sw shore,seen these there,'standing up'.

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=rogue+waves+great+lakes
https://www.davesandfordphotos.com/
/
I've never come across a GEX built engine,tho from what I hear,they would make a great mooring anchor.
Well,that is the price of admission,a cheap,reliable and fault-free four for your 914,may not be inexpensive.
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=gex%20type%204%20engine%20fail
Get the low down here,you may have to use your bs filter,diligently.
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Posted by: Rand Jun 28 2016, 05:25 PM

I surfed Lake Tahoe.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=surf+tahoe

Posted by: Woody Jun 28 2016, 05:32 PM

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???



QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Rand @ Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM) *

This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Wood%? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???


No this is not Wood%...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?

Did I say Wood% was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.




Leave me teh Fuch out of this. But yeah righteous and oh man those clam bakes. bye1.gif beerchug.gif

Posted by: OU812 Jun 28 2016, 05:33 PM

QUOTE(veekry9 @ Jun 28 2016, 06:17 PM) *

Attached Image
Lake Erie,likely Long Point off the sw shore,seen these there,'standing up'.

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=rogue+waves+great+lakes
https://www.davesandfordphotos.com/
/
I've never come across a GEX built engine,tho from what I hear,they would make a great mooring anchor.
Well,that is the price of admission,a cheap,reliable and fault-free four for your 914,may not be inexpensive.
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=gex%20type%204%20engine%20fail
Get the low down here,you may have to use your bs filter,diligently.
/


Now that's a tasty wave! With a cool breeze

Don't mess with Mother Nature she is invinsable!

Posted by: porschetub Jun 28 2016, 08:21 PM

[quote name='ConeDodger' date='Jun 29 2016, 04:33 AM' post='2365042']
[quote name='OU812' post='2364872' date='Jun 27 2016, 11:18 PM']
[quote name='Rand' post='2364864' date='Jun 27 2016, 10:08 PM']
[quote name='OU812' post='2364858' date='Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM']
[quote name='Rand' post='2364839' date='Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM']
This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???
[/quote]

No this is not Woody...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?
[/quote]
Did I say Woody was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.
[/quot

Besides a clambake all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
Hurupff
[/quote]

Are you surfing Lake Harriet? There are no waves worth a surfboard in Minnesota blink.gif
[/quote]

Rob agree.gif ,however there appears to be a "cool buzz" ,think that's not a blowfly in the ear so can only be something else.... smoke.gif smoke.gif smoke.gif

Posted by: OU812 Jun 29 2016, 01:00 AM

[quote name='porschetub' date='Jun 28 2016, 09:21 PM' post='2365259']
[quote name='ConeDodger' date='Jun 29 2016, 04:33 AM' post='2365042']
[quote name='OU812' post='2364872' date='Jun 27 2016, 11:18 PM']
[quote name='Rand' post='2364864' date='Jun 27 2016, 10:08 PM']
[quote name='OU812' post='2364858' date='Jun 27 2016, 08:00 PM']
[quote name='Rand' post='2364839' date='Jun 27 2016, 09:36 PM']
This ou812 dude has to be a moniker. Is it really you Woody? Scooter? Dr Evil has been asleep. Has to be one of those east coasters. Who is it really toying with us???
[/quote]

No this is not Woody...

Why is he a Righteous dude?

Do all sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, tweeners, dickheads all adore him?
[/quote]
Did I say Woody was a Righteous dude? No sir, I did not. But if you want to plan a clambake party, he IS the man.
[/quot

Besides a clambake all I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.
Hurupff
[/quote]

Are you surfing Lake Harriet? There are no waves worth a surfboard in Minnesota blink.gif
[/quote]

Rob agree.gif ,however there appears to be a "cool buzz" ,think that's not a blowfly in the ear so can only be something else.... smoke.gif smoke.gif smoke.gif
[/quote]

Just high on life and posting on 914World!
Appreciate the in put though.

Posted by: OU812 Jul 6 2016, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 09:52 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 27 2016, 09:41 PM) *

Does the tank hold compressed air to start the t-1 engine? Sounds like a good parts score. I look forward to the ads. OH BOY!!!! The firecrackers have just started. A week of this crap. No fun.


No his has a 12v starter just like it did when mounted in the car.

Fireworks aren't legal at least the good ones in Mn. Most of us have to drive to
Wisconsin or North Dakota to get the big mortars and Rockets....

But yeah they've already started here to.

Unless your talking about a different type of fireworks!


The GEX took its last breath over the 4th, After it was repurposed(California Lingo)
into half air compressor, half gasoline engine. it was making pretty good air for around 5 minutes until it dropped a valve seat.

So we decided to take it out to the gravel pit with a case of grainbelt beer and throw some black powder in the jugs and put the two spark plugs back in it.

hot wired it, stood back and blew her up...... nothing left of the GEX!

Talk about your alternate fuel sources.....Didn't the Mythbusters do a show on a engine that ran on gunpowder?

Maybe my next post? Naw

Posted by: Mueller Jul 6 2016, 10:32 PM

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jul 6 2016, 06:41 PM) *

QUOTE(OU812 @ Jun 27 2016, 09:52 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 27 2016, 09:41 PM) *

Does the tank hold compressed air to start the t-1 engine? Sounds like a good parts score. I look forward to the ads. OH BOY!!!! The firecrackers have just started. A week of this crap. No fun.


No his has a 12v starter just like it did when mounted in the car.

Fireworks aren't legal at least the good ones in Mn. Most of us have to drive to
Wisconsin or North Dakota to get the big mortars and Rockets....

But yeah they've already started here to.

Unless your talking about a different type of fireworks!


The GEX took its last breath over the 4th, After it was repurposed(California Lingo)
into half air compressor, half gasoline engine. it was making pretty good air for around 5 minutes until it dropped a valve seat.

So we decided to take it out to the gravel pit with a case of grainbelt beer and throw some black powder in the jugs and put the two spark plugs back in it.

hot wired it, stood back and blew her up...... nothing left of the GEX!

Talk about your alternate fuel sources.....Didn't the Mythbusters do a show on a engine that ran on gunpowder?

Maybe my next post? Naw


hope your kidding, still a $500 core motor if the case didn't have a hole in it.

Posted by: Frankvw Jul 7 2016, 07:30 AM

"hot wired it, stood back and blew her up...... nothing left of the GEX!"

and if you are not kidding about blowing it up, it is hard to believe there was nothing left..... but I guess you guys made a movie while doing that, right ?

Posted by: OU812 Jul 7 2016, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(Frankvw @ Jul 7 2016, 08:30 AM) *

"hot wired it, stood back and blew her up...... nothing left of the GEX!"

and if you are not kidding about blowing it up, it is hard to believe there was nothing left..... but I guess you guys made a movie while doing that, right ?


I gave it to a "acquaintance" so it was ultimately his to do with what he wanted.

If we are going the literal route, yes there was something left, but nothing left of any consequence, Maybe the crank and a few other things could have been salvaged.

And as far as filming that kind of explosion.....no film, no evidence is all I will say.

Posted by: Series9 Jul 7 2016, 07:28 PM

I have installed a number of GEX long blocks and crate motors over the years.

All of the motors are supposedly test run, yet I have never received one that had valves adjusted in a way that an engine would run.

Of the crate motors, I have never received one that had the valves, carbs or timing adjusted in a manner that would allow the engine to run.

On the last one, all of the above was the same and it wouldn't hold oil due to a stripped drain plug.


As far as I'm concerned, GEX is the "Motormeister" of 4 cylinder engines. Buyer beware.

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