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Posted by: Brando Apr 11 2005, 12:55 PM
So saturday morning I get the good idea that I'll jack the car up on the street and do a valve adjustment. I get the thing up on jack stands and try to pull the valve cover wires down. Blegh, I can't reach so I'll just take the exhaust off to reach it.
Well, that wasn't a good idea. Needless to say cars kept zooming up and down the street (little rice burners) and almost hitting me, thought for a second this might not be a good idea. So i start putting the nuts for the exhaust back on.
I guess the exhaust tubes didn't set into the heads right, cause now I have a small exhaust leak on 3 and 4. Oh wells. I'll pull into the garage and do it right today. Boy oh boy I love doing things twice.
Posted by: brp914 Apr 11 2005, 01:26 PM
Dont take off the exhuast - you're asking for trouble (as you have discovered). Careful putting it back on. Dont overtighten the nuts or you could easily pull the studs out of the head, then you'll really be in a world of hurt. Put a dab of grease on the copper exhuast gaskets to secure them in the head before you lift in the heat exchanger.
For removing the valve cover I use the handle from my floor jack. Pry up against the control arm. Easy.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 11 2005, 01:31 PM
| QUOTE (brp914 @ Apr 11 2005, 02:26 PM) |
| For removing the valve cover I use the handle from my floor jack. Pry up against the control arm. Easy. |
or a long screwdriver...
Posted by: Toast Apr 11 2005, 01:35 PM
Just ask Slits about adjusting valves. 
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 11 2005, 01:37 PM
| QUOTE (Toast @ Apr 11 2005, 12:35 PM) |
| Just ask Slits about adjusting valves. |
i use a shoprag.... loop it over...and pull down....
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 11 2005, 01:41 PM
i just cuss at it and hope my valves magically adjust on thier own
Posted by: Brando Apr 11 2005, 02:13 PM
Well, I found the source of my exhaust leak. The manifold was seated into the head properly it turns out. Driver's side manifold has one nut that is rustwelded on to the stud. I decided after it turned a tiny amount with a lot of force that I shouldn't attempt lest I break the stud or pull it out (both bad).
Anyhow, seems my the rust finally gave way on my Passenger's side manifold. Is this supposed to wiggle?
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Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 11 2005, 02:15 PM
can you say backdate to early style exhaust??
BTW - PM skline...i belive he has a set of lat emodel (your style) heat exchangers leaning up on his fence in the backyard....
Posted by: SLITS Apr 11 2005, 02:18 PM
| QUOTE (Toast @ Apr 11 2005, 12:35 PM) |
| Just ask Slits about adjusting valves. |
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 11 2005, 02:19 PM
| QUOTE (SLITS @ Apr 11 2005, 01:18 PM) | ||
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busted!
Posted by: Brando Apr 11 2005, 02:45 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Apr 11 2005, 12:15 PM) |
| can you say backdate to early style exhaust?? BTW - PM skline...i belive he has a set of lat emodel (your style) heat exchangers leaning up on his fence in the backyard.... |
I think i'll just ride it out until i get those 2.0 SSIs...
Actually, I'm gonna give Ron a call. (dun dun dun)
Posted by: SLITS Apr 11 2005, 02:53 PM
| QUOTE (Brando @ Apr 11 2005, 01:45 PM) | ||
I think i'll just ride it out until i get those 2.0 SSIs... Actually, I'm gonna give Ron a call. (dun dun dun) |
I might have one set of the exhaust manifolds.....need to look....none are loose from the HEs though.
Hell, even if you back dated to the 1.7/1.8 style you would be power ahead.
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 11 2005, 02:59 PM
Yep, dump the late model crap, or if ya really need the manifold, I got three sets I'll give ya.
Posted by: Brando Apr 11 2005, 03:30 PM
What's the difference between the late style 1.8 and the early style 1.7/1.8? If it's the dual-port outlet where it bolts to the muffler I don't really have the necessary parts for my heating to switch over just yet... I got the single large outlet currently, not the dual-large outlet. Although, beggars can't be choosers. I'll go with what's best reccommended and in stock 
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 11 2005, 05:49 PM
The difference, in a nutshell, is "everything". The only parts they have in common are the flapper valves and the hoses that go from those to the body.
--DD
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 11 2005, 06:51 PM
The best way to remove the valve cover wires is to reach up and grasp it firmly between your thumb and index finger and pull down kinda hard. Works everytime.
Cheers, Elliot
Posted by: Brando Apr 11 2005, 07:29 PM
Shyaddup Elliott
My bail wires were stuck to the covers by rust, wouldnt budge by hand or with a big screwdriver. So I used a 8ft breaker bar with a 35lb angled tip. Set reached it on past the HEs and set it on top of the wire. Gave it a little tap with my palm a couple times and the wires sprang down eventually.
Does anyone make aftermarket Aluminum valve covers? Preferably ones that bolt to the case instead of wire-affix... Kind of like empi aftermarket ones for most VWs.
Posted by: skline Apr 11 2005, 07:48 PM
Joe Buckle has them on his car, I dont care for them but they do add a little bling to the engine. As for the bails, I always take a large screwdriver and go from the side and pop it off the head and it falls right out. That way you can clean them before putting them back in. It make it easier to pull the cover off too and reinstall it. It works for me and it takes about 2 seconds. Works everytime.
As for your exhaust, yeah, I have a couple of sets here that you can have. I have to agree with others that you should back date it to the earlier style. As DD mentioned, the flappers are the same parts. I even have a set of the big 74 1.8 liters here you can take with you. The tubes are the same size as the 2 liter. It even has a monza exhaust on it. The guy who wanted them at first no longer wants them and is going with something else.
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 11 2005, 07:55 PM
with Scott. Damn, I thought I was the only one to do that way. Get the damn thing out of the way.
Posted by: Brando Apr 12 2005, 11:42 AM
| QUOTE (skline @ Apr 11 2005, 05:48 PM) |
| Joe Buckle has them on his car, I dont care for them but they do add a little bling to the engine. As for the bails, I always take a large screwdriver and go from the side and pop it off the head and it falls right out. That way you can clean them before putting them back in. It make it easier to pull the cover off too and reinstall it. It works for me and it takes about 2 seconds. Works everytime. As for your exhaust, yeah, I have a couple of sets here that you can have. I have to agree with others that you should back date it to the earlier style. As DD mentioned, the flappers are the same parts. I even have a set of the big 74 1.8 liters here you can take with you. The tubes are the same size as the 2 liter. It even has a monza exhaust on it. The guy who wanted them at first no longer wants them and is going with something else. |
Yo Scott, I'll take it!
I'll give you a call today.
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 12 2005, 11:51 AM
Good call Brando.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Apr 13 2005, 01:27 PM
| QUOTE (Brando @ Apr 11 2005, 05:29 PM) |
| Does anyone make aftermarket Aluminum valve covers? Preferably ones that bolt to the case instead of wire-affix... |
Yes, someone does. They suck--you don't want them unless you really like oil leaks and trying to figure out how to time-sert the rocker stands.... See a discussion on this very subject from last week elsewhere on the board.
--DD
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