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Posted by: bd1308 Apr 11 2005, 08:23 PM
got a letter from the Jury Pool, and I have been selected for Jury Duty....!!!!!! what the hell??? I hope I can get out, since I don't live in my home county anymore AND the date falls on exam week....isn't this saved for like older people?
Posted by: CptTripps Apr 11 2005, 08:25 PM
All you'll have to do is write back and explain that you don't live in that county anymore. You'll get out of it.
If you DO have to go, just use a bunch or racial slurs, and you'll be out of there in no time. 
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 11 2005, 08:28 PM
and watch whoever i am talking to be a member of a different race...then i'm in jail....thats MY luck! 
Posted by: ! Apr 11 2005, 08:40 PM
Be yerself....that always gets me kicked loose.... 
Posted by: Qarl Apr 11 2005, 08:41 PM
Make a call and explain that you are looking forward to jury duty. Tell them that you've always wanted to have the power to fry someone in the electric chair.
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 11 2005, 08:51 PM
Just walk in and sing a bar of Alices restaurant and walk out. They'll think your nuts and won't take you. If that don't work, tell them about all the stuff you wanna do to your 914. They'll think your nuts and won't take you.
Posted by: Mueller Apr 11 2005, 09:06 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Apr 11 2005, 07:28 PM) |
| and watch whoever i am talking to be a member of a different race...then i'm in jail....thats MY luck! |
i was going to say print out this thread, if you have ask silly questions and post stupid replies, they sure as hell don't want some poor bastards life being put in your hands
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 11 2005, 09:07 PM
OMG....Alice's resturant....lol i remember that whole thing...... that was a long time ago, no? i'll do that if being a student doesnt count
Posted by: Lyressa Roberts Apr 11 2005, 09:08 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Apr 11 2005, 06:23 PM) |
| got a letter from the Jury Pool, and I have been selected for Jury Duty....!!!!!! what the hell??? I hope I can get out, since I don't live in my home county anymore AND the date falls on exam week....isn't this saved for like older people? |
Are you in school? They will let you out if you are in school because you never know if you will get on a jury that will take a while and it will interfere. I've gotten out of Jury Duty twice on the school gig. I actually even told the judge once that I would like to and she told me that since I was in school that it was NOT a good idea. So it works.
Posted by: Lou W Apr 11 2005, 09:10 PM
They'll usually give you a one time extension if you explain your situation. But then again, unless they sent the letter certified, how would they know you got it? you could be in California on vacation.
Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 11 2005, 09:16 PM
Tell them you cut up the special order pink car to fix your common red car. They'll realize your not too bright and send you packing.
Posted by: markb Apr 11 2005, 09:29 PM
My Dad had the best line I've heard. He just looked at the Judge & told him to bring that guilty son of a bi... in and let's get this over with. He was kicked loose every time.
Oh, yeah. I'm sure his being a Policeman had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: grantsfo Apr 11 2005, 09:54 PM
You didnt get any notification. ...right? ...right? Thats the easiest way of all. Then they have to send a registered letter which they wont because they have a huge pool of people.
I always go, but my wife doesnt and uses this approach very successfully.
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 11 2005, 10:08 PM
Rick, i will use that one!
grantsfo, good point....didn't think of that one....
Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 11 2005, 10:32 PM
I have been selected once...
I told them I was a former Marine that didn't like many people and pretty much disliked the world.
They sent me home in less than 30 minutes.
Posted by: iiibdsiil Apr 11 2005, 10:37 PM
I would just ask a bunch of questions about the death penalty. And be like "So, if he steals a car, we can't fry his ass?" or a "Can I watch him get fried" might work too?
Seriously though, you have school, I can't imagine them not letting you get out of it.
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 11 2005, 10:41 PM
well i dislike the world and i'm not a marine....i'm just pissed
Posted by: Rgreen914 Apr 12 2005, 12:38 AM
I was once seated on a jury panel but the judge wasn't too sure of my job classification (Parole Agent). We went to lunch and when we returned, the judge had done some research and he called me "a badge-wearing, gun-toting 'cop' "! And when I replied that sometimes I was...he threw me off the jury!
Ron
Posted by: skline Apr 12 2005, 12:45 AM
Grant is correct, do not do anything, you can say you never got it and didnt know. It has never been questioned. They dont send registered due to costs and they usually have a large pool to pick from.
Posted by: MattR Apr 12 2005, 12:46 AM
Geez, it really that much to ask of someone to give a week of their lives to try to put guilty people behind bars? I mean I know our time is so fucking important, but stand up and do what needs to be done. I think a jury of our peers is a fair way to do a trial and if that means you have to be on call for a week or whatever, its worth it in my opinion. Okay, flame away.
Posted by: skline Apr 12 2005, 12:49 AM
Nobody will flame you for speaking your mind, I have to agree with you even. My god, what is this world coming to. Matt is growing up right before our eyes.
Posted by: Cano Apr 12 2005, 06:55 AM
Britt:
Just fill in the form explaining that you are at Western and will be in finals that week, and send it in. Within a week or two you will get a notice from the court that you have been excused. You won't even have to appear.
Posted by: TimT Apr 12 2005, 07:13 AM
| QUOTE |
| I hope I can get out |
I cant believe this.. serving on jury duty is not a pain in the ass, or an inconvenience. Its actually part running this country. "for the people and by the people"
You might actually learn something about our judicial system!. Ive been called four time to serve, been through voi dir (sp) a number of times, but have never sat on a jury.
Just do it
though living in another county will goet you off, yo may still have to show up and prove that you dont live in the county that called you
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 12 2005, 07:45 AM
yeah man....it's not like I mind or anything, I just thought it was hillarious that they picked a corrupt kid out of all the people they COULD have gotten.....anyway, i filled out the form....
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Apr 12 2005, 09:08 AM
| QUOTE (skline @ Apr 11 2005, 10:45 PM) |
| Grant is correct, do not do anything, you can say you never got it and didnt know. It has never been questioned. They dont send registered due to costs and they usually have a large pool to pick from. |
Just don't try that in LA County. They've been aggressively hunting down jury duty no-shows, arresting them for contempt, and fining them relatively large amounts. Rumor has it the trend is spreading ........... The Cap'n
Posted by: root Apr 12 2005, 09:19 AM
What's wrong with jury duty?
You get paid and have free time to doodle while hanging out in court!
Posted by: aircooledboy Apr 12 2005, 09:30 AM
I get this call from family & friends all the time: "you are in the system, how do I get out of jury duty?"
By the time I am done with them, they are usually REALLY sorry they called. 
I am not a flag waving, do your civic duty, get in your face kind of guy, but damn it, it is a very small price we ask of our citizens to be available for jury duty. If you can go, you should go. End of analysis.
BTW, the "pretend you didn't get the notice" plan is very risky. In the law there is a thing called the "mail box rule." If a letter is addressed properly, and put in a mail box, the law presumes it went to that address. Your assertion that you didn't get it might keep you from actually getting sentenced for Contempt, but it will NOT prevent you from getting summoned and brought before a judge to offer that explainantion. Those who have ignored a jury notice without a problem live in the 30% of counties who do not have the resources to track them down (mostly big cities). In the other 70% of counties, that plan will get you a either a personal invitation from a friendly deputy with a pair of handcuffs, or if you are lucky a Rule to Show Cause in the mail, and you will get to explain how you didn't get the notice to some cranky judge who just heard the last 27 people tell him the same thing. 
Sermon over. This poor soap box is creaking like it can't handle my well fed butt too much longer. 
Posted by: mudfoot76 Apr 12 2005, 09:31 AM
| QUOTE (Cano @ Apr 12 2005, 07:55 AM) |
| Just fill in the form explaining that you are at Western and will be in finals that week, and send it in. Within a week or two you will get a notice from the court that you have been excused. You won't even have to appear. |
I was summoned a number of times while away at university, and each time I just replied that I was a college student in another part of the state. No problems...
Jury duty is another part of being a citizen here.
Posted by: markb Apr 12 2005, 09:43 AM
I've only been called to actually sit in the jury box twice. The first time, when they brought in the defendant, he was someone who was in a band I used to work with back in my producing days, so they kicked me off. Second time they asked me what I did for a living and they kicked me off. Guess they figured I'd be a little harsh on a drunk driver.
Posted by: Jenny Apr 12 2005, 10:13 AM
My cousin's going to school @ Berkeley, about 50min from home. When he wrote them stating he was away at school, they sent him an extension for spring break week, when he'd be home (in santa clara county) and on break (no time off from school)
The system works!
Jen
Posted by: Mueller Apr 12 2005, 10:17 AM
my biggest gripe is the parking, or lack of parking for jury duty...other than that, I don't mind the excuse to take a day off from work.....
Posted by: TC/914 Apr 12 2005, 10:17 AM
I've been kicked loose more times than accepted to serve, but I gotta say that it was a lot of fun being on the jury. Like being an extra in a movie or something, it's a very surreal experience over-all and when you get to decide someone's future . . . it REALLY becomes strange.
If you ever get the chance, report for duty. It's like NOTHING else in the world. Not to be missed, IF you give yourself over to the experience completely!
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Apr 12 2005, 10:46 AM
The Cap'n, hisownself, served a 90 day federal jury duty stint. Unlike the locals, it paid VERY well, and was an enlightening experience. Sat on only trial, where the defendant sold 7 kilos of Cocaine to a motorcycle cop. That's right, a motor cop, who looked like nothing else BUT a motor officer. We convicted him in short order ........ The feds run a tight ship in their courts. None of that fooling around like you see on TV. The judge in charge told us we could get out of serving IF we were dead AND had a note from our doctor. Once during the trial our judge told the defendant's lawyer to sit down and shut up. We liked that, a bunch! The Cap'n
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 12 2005, 10:55 AM
well...its not like i dont want to, i find it intresting myself 
I just thought picking a person with only a partially-functioning mind wasn't a bright idea.
Posted by: Mueller Apr 12 2005, 10:59 AM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Apr 12 2005, 09:55 AM) |
| well...its not like i dont want to, i find it intresting myself I just thought picking a person with only a partially-functioning mind wasn't a bright idea. |
you think they know the mental state of everyone they send a letter to??
of course not, that is why you go down there and get interviewed...you might get lucky and put on the "must be related to Miles" list and never be contacted again
Posted by: bd1308 Apr 12 2005, 11:06 AM
me and Miles, long-lost relatives....???we have to be. we're both 
Posted by: sgomes Apr 12 2005, 11:24 AM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 12 2005, 08:17 AM) |
| my biggest gripe is the parking, or lack of parking for jury duty...other than that, I don't mind the excuse to take a day off from work..... |
Funny story - Last time I went in for jury duty. There was about 50-60 of us in the court room waiting to be picked. The balif (sp?) comes in and says, "for those of you who don't know, the parking lot across from the court house is NOT for jury duty parking. Any car parked there without a sticker will be towed." I kid you not as soon as he finished talking about 40 of us (me included) got up to go move our cars.
I looked everywhere for a sign. I finally found it on my way OUT of the parking lot. There was a little 5" square sign on the INSIDE of the fence declaring the lot for official cars only.
Posted by: Sparky Apr 12 2005, 11:32 AM
My favorite:
Tell them your really excited and that you have watched every episode of Law and Order. When they ask a question preface it with the Doink Doink sound from the show.
Should work...
My best,
Mike D.
Posted by: Part Pricer Apr 12 2005, 12:22 PM
Over the years, I’ve been summoned for Jury Duty a few times. Normally, I would show up, be excused and then enjoy the rest of my unscheduled day off. However, a few years ago I was summoned for Jury Duty by a Federal court instead of State or Municipal courts as I had been in the past. It was quite a different experience.
As potential jurors, we underwent a rigorous vetting process. There were written questionnaires that consisted of about 150 questions. This was followed by two-minute stand-up presentations by each of the roughly 100 potential jurors where we were told to “State your name, city in which you live, occupation, marital status, number of children and their names, your hobbies, and anything special about you that you would like the court to know.” The presentations were all done under the watchful eyes of the judge and the prosecution and defense teams. After this, we were given a lunch break.
After lunch, they read off a group of juror numbers. If your number was called out, you were excused. About half of the original pool of people got to go home. I was not one of the lucky few. Then, we were called up into the jury box in groups of 8 to 10 people. The attorneys on both sides were allowed to ask questions of each individual. The lawyers scribbled notes on Post-Its and passed them to one another during all of this. This went on for about an hour and a half. We then took a break.
After the break, juror numbers were called out one-by-one. When a person’s number was called, they had to go sit in the jury box. When the person sat down, the judge asked both sides if that person was acceptable. If they were acceptable to both sides, the person remained seated and they became part of the jury. There were a few people that did get kicked out. The jury box was filling up. I was sitting there saying to myself, “Don’t call my number, don’t call my number.” I breathed a big sigh of relief when the woman sitting next to me was called up to sit in the last available seat in the jury box. “Cool”, I thought. “They’ve got their jury, I can go home.” I didn’t work out that way. They dismissed the woman and my number was called next. I got up sat in the jury box and waited to hear if I was an acceptable juror. Both sides agreed. The judge said, “Thank you, we now have our jury”. She then dismissed the potential jurors from the room that had not been chosen. She then turned to the group of us sitting in the jury box and told us when we would have to arrive in the mornings, what time we would be dismissed daily, and told us about nearby eating establishments. She then dismissed us for the day and told us to be back first thing next morning.
Great! I was now on a Federal jury! And, I had no idea what the case was about!
The next day it didn’t take long to find out the details of the trial. The judge introduced the defendants to us. There were five of them. They were all police officers in the City of New London (the other side of the state) and they were all charged in the beating death of a mentally retarded man. Well, if I had to sit on a jury at least I got an interesting case.
The case went on for three weeks. We heard from eyewitnesses, expert witnesses (police procedures, beatings, coroners, etc.), family, friends and the Chief of Police. However, the most interesting witness was on the first day. There was an eyewitness that clearly didn’t want to be there. As jurors, we were excused from the room four times during his testimony. He was obviously very reluctant to testify. I guess he didn’t want to have to testify against local cops and then have to go back home. He never completed his testimony. When we came back after the forth time being excused, he was gone. They called up another witness. We were never given an explanation.
There were all other types of maneuvers, objections and sidebars going on during the trial. It was nothing like what you see on television. It was very frustrating because you wanted to stand up and yell at the lawyers to get to the point. But, that’s not how the system works.
Anyway, after three weeks of testimony, we were given the case to deliberate. This was probably the most interesting part of all. I had been part of a group of twelve people for the last three weeks listening to the details of an event. Yet, we were not allowed to discuss it with each other until we were handed the case. It was interesting to hear what others had observed and concluded.
We were given a 25 page verdict sheet. We had to go down the sheet and determine each individual charge for each individual defendant. At first, we were not unanimous in all of our positions. It took us 3 and a half days of deliberation to come up with unanimous verdicts for all counts. All five were found guilty.
Posted by: CptTripps Apr 12 2005, 12:50 PM
In Ohio, we only get $6 a day. I was summoned, and picked at the age of 19. I was about to get a promotion at my job, and got picked to serve in a federal case in Cuyahog County. I served 7hrs a day for 4 weeks, on a BS case about a drug dealer that wasn't really a drug dealer, and after the guy pled-out, I was handed a paycheck for $118.00. When I returned to my job, I'd been passed over for the promotion. Employers aren't SUPPOSSED to penelize you for jury duty, but when you are 19 and just starting out, it REALLY hurts your career path. I COULD have gotten out of it, but I wanted to do "the right thing."
Now all things happen for a reason, but ever since then, I've been REAL pissed at the system that we have. I know, I know...Go USA and all that, but there are much better ways of being patriotic.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 12 2005, 01:08 PM
the last time I had to go was for a drunk driver that killed his friend and 2 innocents in the other car, driving 90 during a cowboy's halftime to go get more beer... he'd pleaded guilty so it was just for sentancing... I basically told them I'd be pro-death penalty(not an option), though it would be too lenient... I've lost too many friends to drunk driving...
they kept all of us there the whole day, in case we were needed in another jury pool, but I was left alone... no way they guy coulda got a fair shake from me...
I haven't had to go back either...
I would have been open minded about it if it was a trial to determine guilt... I could give him the benefit of the doubt, but he admitted it, he had a BAL of 2.5x the legal limit. and said he'd been drinking all day with the friend... and this was a 3rd strike offense(3rd time he'd gotten a DWI)
Posted by: Lyressa Roberts Apr 12 2005, 02:24 PM
I eventually want to serve on Jury Duty...I would like to get a really good murder case... 
But I don't have the bandwidth with school. Hell, I don't have time to have a life, much less time for jury duty.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 12 2005, 02:31 PM
| QUOTE (Lyressa Roberts @ Apr 12 2005, 03:24 PM) |
| I eventually want to serve on Jury Duty...I would like to get a really good murder case... But I don't have the bandwidth with school. Hell, I don't have time to have a life, much less time for jury duty. |
it sounds like fun until you realize you lose a day at your paying job for $8 and a free lunch...
I would have skipped class for $8 and free lunch while I was on college, but having a real job, and not having to go downtown (where the real crime actually occurs in this town) is much better
Posted by: CptTripps Apr 12 2005, 02:32 PM
No fair, I only got $6 a day + bagged lunch I NEVER ate.
Posted by: balljoint Apr 12 2005, 02:34 PM
I just hate all the phone calls at home from "friends" of the accused. And PLEASE stop revving your motorcycle engines at 3 AM.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 12 2005, 02:35 PM
| QUOTE (CptTripps @ Apr 12 2005, 03:32 PM) |
| No fair, I only got $6 a day + bagged lunch I NEVER ate. |
on jury selection day, you don't get anything, not even a free lunch... I'm sure the prisoners get a better lunch than the jury...
Posted by: Jenny Apr 12 2005, 02:48 PM
$4/day here. And I don't believe they serve lunch. 
Jen
Posted by: aircooledboy Apr 12 2005, 02:54 PM
$5 a day here, and no lunch until you begin deliberations. 
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 12 2005, 02:57 PM
| QUOTE (Sparky @ Apr 12 2005, 10:32 AM) |
| My favorite: Tell them your really excited and that you have watched every episode of Law and Order. When they ask a question preface it with the Doink Doink sound from the show. Should work... My best, Mike D. |
all time greatest reply....
"dun dun"
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 12 2005, 03:03 PM
6 bucks a day here. Ya gotta park in a special lot that cost 8 bucks a day 
Posted by: Andy Apr 12 2005, 03:30 PM
The only time Ive been called up for jury duty I was a student and was dismissed because of it.
Several years back my Mom had to go through the whole interview process, during which they asked her; "Do you have a nickname or another name you'd like to be called?" Being a wiseass (I can only promise she wasn't trying to get dismissed) she answered "I've always been partial to 'Your Highness'" - they were less than amused and dismissed her. Worse yet, nobody laughed!
Posted by: tat2dphreak Apr 12 2005, 04:00 PM
| QUOTE (vsg914 @ Apr 12 2005, 04:03 PM) |
| 6 bucks a day here. Ya gotta park in a special lot that cost 8 bucks a day |
yea, there's that too... they give you a $2 parking pass, but the lot that would be free with it has only like 10 spots...
they give you a free train pass though, so you can ride the DART bus/train system... and next time, you'l be a witness or victim... but you won't be on jury duty... Posted by: Lyressa Roberts Apr 12 2005, 05:32 PM
| QUOTE (vsg914 @ Apr 12 2005, 01:03 PM) |
| 6 bucks a day here. Ya gotta park in a special lot that cost 8 bucks a day |
LOL!!! That sucks!!! We get paid at my job for going, but at a reduced rate. I don't know what we get paid for the duty itself...I'm sure it's the same as what Jenny said since we're in the same area.
Posted by: Lyressa Roberts Apr 12 2005, 05:34 PM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Apr 12 2005, 02:00 PM) | ||
yea, there's that too... they give you a $2 parking pass, but the lot that would be free with it has only like 10 spots... they give you a free train pass though, so you can ride the DART bus/train system... and next time, you'l be a witness or victim... but you won't be on jury duty... |
Too funny. Yea, I would be afraid to ride the bus here...but I have rode the train and it can get interesting.
Posted by: SLITS Apr 12 2005, 05:40 PM
My line to get out...."If he's/she's/it's here, they're automatically guilty".
Or you can ask to see the judge during lunch break and inform him that the game of mental masturbation the lawyers are playing to stack the jury in their favor is costing you money. That one worked really well!
Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 12 2005, 05:45 PM
Simplist way to get out of jury duty....
Go buy a hardback copy of Tom Clancy's "Without Remorse" Leave the dust jacket on, and make sure the defense attorney can see it. Once he sees that book, you will be eliminated for sure.
Posted by: SLITS Apr 12 2005, 05:49 PM
Wear a white hood to jury selection!
Posted by: ! Apr 12 2005, 05:52 PM
Depends on the "hood Joe Bob.....someplaces that will get ya shot.
Best to wear dark glasses and a grey hooded sweatshirt ala the UniBomber.... 
Posted by: kwales Apr 12 2005, 06:07 PM
I've been called twice...
First one they settled before the jury was selected.
The second one was really different. I went in and there was 120 prospective jurors. They handed me this 35 page book to fill out. Lotsa questions on the death penalty, would you feel bad about executing someone, can you comprehend insanity, etc,
I made it into the process as number 57. Found out this case was about a murderer who was in the pen, received a new roomate, and they found the new roomate dead the next morning. Seems the new murdered guy was a child molester that held a 6 year old girl in his attic for a week.
The murder listened to the molester brag about the little girl. Then he told the molester "I've got a great idea to get you out of my cell and into your own cell." "I'll tie you up and tell them I'm holding you hostage." The molester went along with it and then the murder did to the molester what the molester did to the 6 year old girl. He died in the process.
I was gonna give him a medal, but they stopped selection 2 jurors in front of me.....
Who would you like on your jury?
Go do your duty dude!
Ken
Posted by: scotty b Apr 12 2005, 06:11 PM
| QUOTE (rick 918-S @ Apr 11 2005, 07:16 PM) |
| Tell them you cut up the special order pink car to fix your common red car. They'll realize your not too bright and send you packing. |
Tell them you killed Miles!
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