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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ FUN RUN & BBQ, Ojai/Lockwood Valley/Pine Mtn Club, SEPT 17, 2016

Posted by: Mike D. Aug 8 2016, 04:49 PM

From the Guys that brought you WCC2015 in San Simeon biggrin.gif

Who wants have a fun run? Saturday Sept. 17th, 2016

This was one of our good friend Howards favorite runs. howard.gif
We are planning to run Hwy33 north out of Ojai, then cut across Lockwood Valley to Fraiser Park, Left on Cuddy Valley Rd. to Pine Mountain Club.
Don & Tina Cameron have home up there with plenty of 914 parking. We will be grilling Burgers and Dogs and have time for the usual 914 BS sessions. jsharp.gif
From there is easy access back to LA and environs via I5.

We will meet at 9am at the Starbucks on South Palm Ave. near the exit from Hwy126. There are several options for a quick breakfast/snack etc. and a Texaco right across the street for a fuel top off for those of us guzzle the petrol.
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We can have earlier meet ups in San Fernando Valley and Santa Clarita for the drive to Santa Paula. This can all be TBA, later.

More Details to Come.

So, who wants to go?!?! beerchug.gif


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Posted by: 914 RZ-1 Aug 8 2016, 09:46 PM

I'm in! aktion035.gif

Posted by: second wind Aug 8 2016, 09:55 PM

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I'm in! aktion035.gif

Me too...sounds fun....
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Posted by: 7TPorsh Aug 8 2016, 11:24 PM

Gotta check but I think I'm in....

I kinda like the other side, 126 to the 150 from Santa Paula to Ojai. Goes through some wineries.

One of my favorite stops along the way...Killer pizza...wine...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boccali+Vineyards+%26+Winery/@34.4459303,-119.2042324,3a,75y,55.47h,83.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJNmFWYoy-IdaUP4G_fWtKQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DJNmFWYoy-IdaUP4G_fWtKQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D98.189583%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swinery+ojai!3m4!1s0x80e9b0a4d840fdaf:0x83e32544f91fedfc!8m2!3d34.4460528!4d-119.2039988!6m1!1e1


Posted by: 914_teener Aug 9 2016, 08:28 AM

I.m in.

This is day thing?

Gonna look for lodging Sat night.

Posted by: Mike D. Aug 9 2016, 09:22 AM

QUOTE(7TPorsh @ Aug 8 2016, 10:24 PM) *

I kinda like the other side, 126 to the 150 from Santa Paula to Ojai. Goes through some wineries.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boccali+Vineyards+%26+Winery/@34.4459303,-119.2042324,3a,75y,55.47h,83.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJNmFWYoy-IdaUP4G_fWtKQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DJNmFWYoy-IdaUP4G_fWtKQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D98.189583%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swinery+ojai!3m4!1s0x80e9b0a4d840fdaf:0x83e32544f91fedfc!8m2!3d34.4460528!4d-119.2039988!6m1!1e1


Yeah, that road will be on the way there. Unless we meet in Santa Paula. Hum idea.gif you may have something there...

QUOTE(914_teener @ Aug 9 2016, 07:28 AM) *

I.m in.

This is day thing?

Gonna look for lodging Sat night.

Yep, just a one day thing.

Posted by: andys Aug 9 2016, 10:23 AM

A tentative yes, depending on my upcoming schedule.
Thanks for putting this together, Mike!

Andys

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Aug 10 2016, 11:29 PM

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Posted by: 2mAn Aug 10 2016, 11:30 PM

Can I drive the 2270 if I havent bought it by then?

Posted by: Sandy Teener Aug 12 2016, 11:04 PM



They just repaved the33 and it's smooth as glass! Took it to cuyama two weeks ago!

Posted by: russmoffat Aug 13 2016, 01:17 AM

Yep, I'm in! driving.gif

Posted by: Coondog Aug 13 2016, 01:35 AM

167 miles from my house........... sad.gif not looking good

Posted by: Mike D. Aug 14 2016, 10:43 PM

QUOTE(2mAn @ Aug 10 2016, 10:30 PM) *

Can I drive the 2270 if I havent bought it by then?

biggrin.gif could be! However, I may be driving it. My 6 is acting strange. Gotta check it out.


Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 15 2016, 02:55 PM

Doesn't look like Red Rocks is in the cards for me, so I'll do my best to make this one. I'll probably stay somewhere (Carpentaria) the night before so, nail down a day and I'll make a res.

Posted by: BigFour1973 Aug 15 2016, 03:38 PM

As long as my car stays in one piece, ill make this one

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 17 2016, 11:22 AM

17th? 18th? When?

Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 17 2016, 01:20 PM

Maybe, would have to drive the Boxster; for those that didn't make WCR 2015, Mike, Don, and Leamon organize great events.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 18 2016, 08:19 PM

Awrite. Awaiting further details. smoke.gif

Posted by: Mike D. Aug 18 2016, 09:00 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 17 2016, 10:22 AM) *

17th? 18th? When?


Saturday 17th for sure now! I don't want people getting in traffic on Sunday Afternoon/evening trying to get home after a couple beer3.gif
I'll get my camouflage shorts ready for you to make fun of Elliot. bootyshake.gif

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ Aug 17 2016, 12:20 PM) *

Maybe, would have to drive the Boxster; for those that didn't make WCR 2015, Mike, Don, and Leamon organize great events.


Thanks Jim! biggrin.gif


I'll post more details at the top soon. We have a few others that aren't regulars here that want to go too. Looks like about 12 cars so far and still a month away.
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Posted by: 914 RZ-1 Aug 20 2016, 02:35 PM

Will there be t-shirts? smile.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 20 2016, 03:10 PM

QUOTE(914 RZ-1 @ Aug 20 2016, 01:35 PM) *

Will there be t-shirts? smile.gif


Track fees?

Posted by: Mike D. Aug 23 2016, 05:04 PM

New Info in first Post! smile.gif
And Route here



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Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 24 2016, 12:09 AM

I'll be coming from the opposite direction on highway 150. I'll meet up with you all at Vons in Ojai.

Posted by: 914_teener Aug 30 2016, 11:31 AM

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Planning on going.


Posted by: JRust Aug 30 2016, 01:37 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 15 2016, 01:55 PM) *

Doesn't look like Red Rocks is in the cards for me, so I'll do my best to make this one. I'll probably stay somewhere (Carpentaria) the night before so, nail down a day and I'll make a res.

WTF.gif Elliot fly up for Red Rocks. I'll pick you up & give you my passenger seat for the weekend confused24.gif .

Posted by: Mike D. Aug 31 2016, 02:11 PM

Plans are still under way. We might have a stop at a private car collection in Ojai, I'm still checking on it.

I'll need to make a list of attendees so I can buy enough food.

Everyone be sure to bring a folding chair for the lunch at Don's cabin.

More to come...smile.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 31 2016, 04:52 PM

QUOTE(JRust @ Aug 30 2016, 12:37 PM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 15 2016, 01:55 PM) *

Doesn't look like Red Rocks is in the cards for me, so I'll do my best to make this one. I'll probably stay somewhere (Carpentaria) the night before so, nail down a day and I'll make a res.

WTF.gif Elliot fly up for Red Rocks. I'll pick you up & give you my passenger seat for the weekend confused24.gif .


I would if I still had the Bonanza. I had to sell it after the $47,000 engine re-build. Now I'm just a little bit slower and lower than before. laugh.gif



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Posted by: olsib914 Sep 1 2016, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Aug 31 2016, 01:11 PM) *

Plans are still under way. We might have a stop at a private car collection in Ojai, I'm still checking on it.

I'll need to make a list of attendees so I can buy enough food.

Everyone be sure to bring a folding chair for the lunch at Don's cabin.

More to come...smile.gif

Count me and my oxidized bahia red 72 and Marc (mechanic from Fullerton) might have his running too..if not he will co pilot so two for sure
Ol sib 914
Palmer (another mike)

Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 6 2016, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Aug 31 2016, 01:11 PM) *

Plans are still under way. We might have a stop at a private car collection in Ojai, I'm still checking on it.

I'll need to make a list of attendees so I can buy enough food.

Everyone be sure to bring a folding chair for the lunch at Don's cabin.

More to come...smile.gif

Vehicle permitting, I'm in. Blue 73 from santa barbara.

Posted by: jsaum Sep 6 2016, 08:34 PM

I grew up in Ojai and learned to drive on those roads! You guys are going to have a great drive I wish I could join you.

Posted by: don-6 Sep 10 2016, 06:36 PM

Ok drivers, it's one week until the fun run.
Time to get your cars serviced and ready.
The weather in Pine Mountain has been great.
I look forward to seeing everyone next Saturday.

Don, don-6

Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 10 2016, 08:05 PM

My white car is dodgy. Can I come if I drive my Tacoma?

I could park it and co-pilot????

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Sep 11 2016, 08:09 AM

Count me in.

Posted by: 914_teener Sep 11 2016, 12:47 PM

hey Don....


Grandson is coming by from Prescott AZ next weekend....so I am out now.


Have fun guys/gals......that looks like a very fun drive.

Rob

Posted by: euro911 Sep 11 2016, 04:07 PM

No running P-cars here yet (whatta surprise, right) dry.gif

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 12 2016, 01:01 PM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Sep 10 2016, 07:05 PM) *

My white car is dodgy. Can I come if I drive my Tacoma?

I could park it and co-pilot????


Sure Lawrence, you have to park where someone can get you back to your car tho, as this isn't a round trip run.

You could park at meeting place in Santa Clarita, or La Canada. I'll post those early meeting places today.

stay tuned

Posted by: second wind Sep 12 2016, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 12 2016, 12:01 PM) *

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Sep 10 2016, 07:05 PM) *

My white car is dodgy. Can I come if I drive my Tacoma?

I could park it and co-pilot????


Sure Lawrence, you have to park where someone can get you back to your car tho, as this isn't a round trip run.

You could park at meeting place in Santa Clarita, or La Canada. I'll post those early meeting places today.

stay tuned


Where and when are the santa clarita and la canada meet ups?

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 12 2016, 05:28 PM

Two Early Meeting Places before the Scheduled 9:14am Departure from Santa Paula Starbucks.

I will be meeting at 7:45am with the Santa Clarita crowd, and anyone who wants to come up, at the Coffee Been & Tea Leaf, 28291 Newhall Ranch Rd., Valencia. You can't really see it from the road, but it is in the parking lot with a Smart and Final and LA Fitness.
I will bring Donuts! drooley.gif We'll leave and head to Santa Paula @ 8:15 am Sharp!

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Leamon will be meeting a group at the La Canada Cars & Coffee Show in the parking lot of the UA Theater @ 7:am, 1919 Verdugo Blvd. LaCanada/Flintridge. This group will be leaving there aprox. 7:55.

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If you are coming up 405N and don't want the extra seat time, you can just go on to Santa Paula Starbucks. Be there by 9am.
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We will Leave Santa Paula and head to Ojai to meet up with Eliot at the Vons, should be there 10am.

FUN, FUN, FUN!

Posted by: Heeltoe914 Sep 13 2016, 08:29 AM

If you haven’t been to a early morning Cars and coffee this one is truly a great treat to start your day, If you get their early I will have coffee and bagels ready. Looking forward to seeing you guys..


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Posted by: Heeltoe914 Sep 13 2016, 08:37 AM

La Canada show starts at 630am, We will depart about 7.45am as well. Call if you need a few mins, to catch us , 8 one 8 two six six 7774 I know their are allot of freeway closers going on. 1919 Verdugo off the 2 fry or 210 ocean view exit.

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 13 2016, 04:03 PM

How about a quick roll call? Let me know if you coming for sure and where you'll meet up, so we know who to look out for at each location.

I know Russ and Jeff (914 RZ-1) are meeting me in Santa Clarita.

Elliot is meeting us at Vons in Ojai, 10am-ish

Who? Where? I gotta know how much beer.gif to fit in the trunk. smile.gif

Posted by: BigFour1973 Sep 13 2016, 04:52 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 13 2016, 03:03 PM) *

How about a quick roll call? Let me know if you coming for sure and where you'll meet up, so we know who to look out for at each location.

I know Russ and Jeff (914 RZ-1) are meeting me in Santa Clarita.

Elliot is meeting us at Vons in Ojai, 10am-ish

Who? Where? I gotta know how much beer.gif to fit in the trunk. smile.gif

Going to have to pull out, gotta work in Bakersfield this weekend.

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 14 2016, 06:34 PM

OK, so only one 6 pack, and a lettuce sandwich for Elliot blink.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 14 2016, 06:54 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 14 2016, 05:34 PM) *

OK, so only one 6 pack, and a lettuce sandwich for Elliot blink.gif

Lettuce and tomato please. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 14 2016, 07:25 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 14 2016, 05:54 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 14 2016, 05:34 PM) *

OK, so only one 6 pack, and a lettuce sandwich for Elliot blink.gif

Lettuce and tomato please. biggrin.gif


I could grill you up some Teriyaki tofu... poke.gif
or maybe just some zucchini and eggplant chowtime.gif


Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 14 2016, 07:26 PM

OK, forget Vons. I'll be in the Ojai Gas station across the street. (Easier turn on to 33). If I'm in the car with my head tilted back and it looks like I'm still breathing, just gently nudge me and I'll be right with you.

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 14 2016, 07:28 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 14 2016, 06:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 14 2016, 05:54 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 14 2016, 05:34 PM) *

OK, so only one 6 pack, and a lettuce sandwich for Elliot blink.gif

Lettuce and tomato please. biggrin.gif


I could grill you up some Teriyaki tofu... poke.gif
or maybe just some zucchini and eggplant chowtime.gif

Hey! You're OK Mike. I don't care what your wife says. laugh.gif

Posted by: euro911 Sep 14 2016, 09:00 PM

Lettuce all be happy campers on 9/14 rolleyes.gif

Posted by: 914_teener Sep 14 2016, 11:24 PM

I wish I could go Mike.


My grandson is making a surprise visit this Saturday, don't see him that often.

You guys have fun.

Posted by: second wind Sep 15 2016, 12:16 AM

Greg here....all in!!!!!!!!!! Clarita at 7:45......
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Posted by: andys Sep 15 2016, 09:05 AM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 13 2016, 03:03 PM) *

How about a quick roll call? Let me know if you coming for sure and where you'll meet up, so we know who to look out for at each location.

I know Russ and Jeff (914 RZ-1) are meeting me in Santa Clarita.

Elliot is meeting us at Vons in Ojai, 10am-ish

Who? Where? I gotta know how much beer.gif to fit in the trunk. smile.gif


Mike,

What's the planned route from Santa Paula Starbucks? Ojai Rd. to Ojai, or freeway thru Ventura via 33 to Ojai?

Still trying to gather myself together; haven't driven the 914 in nearly three months. Nevertheless, I'd still like to go.

Andys

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 15 2016, 01:58 PM

QUOTE(andys @ Sep 15 2016, 08:05 AM) *

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 13 2016, 03:03 PM) *

How about a quick roll call? Let me know if you coming for sure and where you'll meet up, so we know who to look out for at each location.

I know Russ and Jeff (914 RZ-1) are meeting me in Santa Clarita.

Elliot is meeting us at Vons in Ojai, 10am-ish

Who? Where? I gotta know how much beer.gif to fit in the trunk. smile.gif


Mike,

What's the planned route from Santa Paula Starbucks? Ojai Rd. to Ojai, or freeway thru Ventura via 33 to Ojai?

Still trying to gather myself together; haven't driven the 914 in nearly three months. Nevertheless, I'd still like to go.

Andys


Yes, Ojai Rd. through the mountains, (hwy150)
We hope to see you there!

Posted by: Heeltoe914 Sep 15 2016, 06:06 PM

Did we mention free bagels or donuts? All cars welcomed.


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Posted by: euro911 Sep 15 2016, 09:54 PM

I've racked up a lot of miles on my Tacoma over the past several months so that's out until I service it, the Tundra gets really crummy mileage, and the Vanagon wouldn't keep with all you guys in your fast cars mad.gif


Wait, did Leamon say bagels ??? drooley.gif ... chowtime.gif

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I'm still out dry.gif

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 15 2016, 11:12 PM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 15 2016, 08:54 PM) *

I've racked up a lot of miles on my Tacoma over the past several months so that's out until I service it, the Tundra gets really crummy mileage, and the Vanagon wouldn't keep with all you guys in your fast cars mad.gif


Wait, did Leamon say bagels ??? drooley.gif ... chowtime.gif

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I'm still out dry.gif


Rent a mazda for the day driving-girl.gif

Posted by: don-6 Sep 16 2016, 05:33 PM

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See you guys tomorrow morning driving-girl.gif

Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 16 2016, 10:28 PM

QUOTE(Mike D. @ Sep 13 2016, 03:03 PM) *

How about a quick roll call? Let me know if you coming for sure and where you'll meet up, so we know who to look out for at each location.

I know Russ and Jeff (914 RZ-1) are meeting me in Santa Clarita.

Elliot is meeting us at Vons in Ojai, 10am-ish

Who? Where? I gotta know how much beer.gif to fit in the trunk. smile.gif

beer3.gif



See you in santa paula in the am! Coming from SB. Blue 1.7 rusty bucket.

Posted by: BMITCHELL Sep 17 2016, 04:59 PM

12 914s made it! driving.gif I went with them as far as Ojai but had to come back home for my grandsons club soccer game. Hope to see some pictures.

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Sep 17 2016, 07:17 PM

Just made it home. piratenanner.gif
Left Don's place at 3:30 and got home at 5:30.
Brakes screaming in traffic.
Had a great time.
Thank you Mike and Leaman for putting it together and feeding us animals.
Thank you Don for hosting us.
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Posted by: 914-300Hemi Sep 17 2016, 07:51 PM

Mike trying to ski.
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Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 17 2016, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(BMITCHELL @ Sep 17 2016, 03:59 PM) *

12 914s made it! driving.gif I went with them as far as Ojai but had to come back home for my grandsons club soccer game. Hope to see some pictures.

I missed the part about you not making the whole trip. I thought you got stuck in traffic and was going to stop and wait for you. It would have been a long wait. av-943.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 17 2016, 09:40 PM

A great way to spend a Saturday. Good weather (a little hot) nice cars and great people. Lots of twisty roads especially on my way home. It was about 360 miles for me and I'm a little tired. The only mechanical issues where some loose lug nuts that were quickly and easily fixed. Much thanks to Don and his wife for opening up their mountain cabin for all us low-lifes to hang out at. They even grilled some zukini for me. Yum! A big shout out to Mike D. and Heeltoe914 for their work putting this together. Everyone stand by for some news about the year 2020. Can anyone guess the significance of that year?

Posted by: euro911 Sep 17 2016, 11:40 PM

Yes, we'll have 20/20 hindsight ...

Posted by: andys Sep 18 2016, 09:37 AM

Great drive; thanks to Mike and Leamon for organizing the event. Nearly got ousted for being the only 914 with AC. Didn't stay for the BBQ, but thanks to Don and his wife for the invite.

Andys

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 18 2016, 01:57 PM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 17 2016, 10:40 PM) *

Yes, we'll have 20/20 hindsight ...

No. The year 2020 is when you will have a drivable 914. av-943.gif

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 18 2016, 02:46 PM

QUOTE(914-300Hemi @ Sep 17 2016, 06:51 PM) *

Mike trying to ski.
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it was a mountain cabin, Right!?! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 18 2016, 02:53 PM

Thanks to everyone who came out. It's the people that make these cars so much fun. Well maybe it's the roads, the tires, the engines.... Well whatever, great group, good fun, thanks for letting us entertain you for a little while. beerchug.gif

Posted by: euro911 Sep 18 2016, 03:15 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Sep 18 2016, 12:57 PM) *
QUOTE(euro911 @ Sep 17 2016, 10:40 PM) *
Yes, we'll have 20/20 hindsight ...
No. The year 2020 is when you will have a drivable 914. av-943.gif
Don't hold your breath laugh.gif

Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 18 2016, 07:16 PM

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The 914 invasion begins at Jack in the Box, Santa Paula.

Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 18 2016, 07:25 PM

Thanks to Mike, Don and Leaman for organizing an awesome day/ drive!
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The meeting of the minds!
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Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 18 2016, 07:28 PM

914 Rainbow shots.
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Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 18 2016, 07:31 PM

Taillights.
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the silver beast in the foreground!
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Thanks for more fun than I've had in a long time!

Posted by: Sandy Teener Sep 18 2016, 07:54 PM

On the road riding flat!
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Posted by: Heeltoe914 Sep 18 2016, 08:18 PM

Thanks everyone for coming out.. Thanks so much for your kind words.. Any time you get more than three 914 together it's a good time..
As Elliot mentioned stay tuned for news about 2020.. we are in the very beginning stages but you can be assured we're going to call in all resourses, vendors ideas and supporters enough said.

A very big thanks to my two buddies Don and Mike for putting this Ojai run together they really deserve all the credit on planning and they did a marvelous job..

Posted by: euro911 Sep 18 2016, 08:36 PM

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914 Rainbow shots.
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QUOTE(Heeltoe914 @ Sep 18 2016, 07:18 PM) *
Thanks everyone for coming out. ...
Hmmm ... maybe it was a good thing that I couldn't make this one with the 'coming out' & 'rainbows' and all ... not that there's anything wrong with that rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

poke.gif

So, we have to wait until 2020 to find out WTF is going on ??? dry.gif

Posted by: don-6 Sep 18 2016, 08:36 PM

Thanks to all who attended. We had a great time.
Good drive, good food and good friends. beerchug.gif

Don

Posted by: Mike D. Sep 19 2016, 03:45 PM

A few more...


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Posted by: Mike D. Sep 19 2016, 03:46 PM

Did anyone get a pic at the cabin with all the cars parked in front?

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