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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Porsche 914/6 GT Ex KREMER Racing car
Posted by: Nine_14 Aug 11 2016, 11:32 AM
https://home.mobile.de/BEERENSSCNV#des_230925922
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 11 2016, 11:56 AM
914.043.1533
Posted by: db9146 Aug 11 2016, 11:58 AM
Cool....but missing the vintage seats. Its interesting that they've thrown in pics of other cars. Hhmmmmm..... and the K&N air filters?
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 11 2016, 01:38 PM
cough cough bS.....
Mr. Uli Richter built this car and raced it one or two times until he died in a cup-car accident during the 24h-race at the Nürburgring in 2002 (or 2003, I can't remember).
The next owner was Oliver Mathai, he raced it at the historic races until he sold it to France or Belgium and those are the facts. You may want to further check your resources and confirm what I just said, it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not.
This car drive by ADAC-Classic Trophy 2006 with Michael Martin and Michael Rook
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 11 2016, 02:09 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Aug 11 2016, 12:38 PM)
cough cough bS.....
it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not.
The Ad clearly states that the car was build by the Kremer Team using the Porsche GT kit.
Nobody is trying to pass this off as one of the Porsche built GT cars ...
Posted by: 396 Aug 11 2016, 02:50 PM
QUOTE(Nine_14 @ Aug 11 2016, 10:32 AM)
https://home.mobile.de/BEERENSSCNV#des_230925922
Someone with deep pockets should jump in and fetch it before someone else in Europe does.
Who's going to step up - especially those that "have " been searching far and wide for a -6.
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 11 2016, 09:59 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 11 2016, 12:09 PM)
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Aug 11 2016, 12:38 PM)
cough cough bS.....
it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not.
The Ad clearly states that the car was build by the Kremer Team using the Porsche GT kit.
Nobody is trying to pass this off as one of the Porsche built GT cars ...
I didn't give credit to the og poster and the remarks are from when it was previously for sale..12-Sep-2009 21:59.. my bad
the picture in the add are very misleading ........
the chassis number stamped in the wheel well ....well ??? buy it now..
may have been at Kremers ,,woopee ..it crashed hard dissappeared until uli richter had it built..
If you need a FIA paper trail for modern racing its perfect..
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Posted by: SixerJ Aug 12 2016, 01:11 AM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 11 2016, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Aug 11 2016, 12:38 PM)
cough cough bS.....
it would be a shame for someone to consider buying this 914-6 being marketed as a "Porsche Factory Built 914-6 GT" when in fact it is not.
The Ad clearly states that the car was build by the Kremer Team using the Porsche GT kit.
Nobody is trying to pass this off as one of the Porsche built GT cars ...
Interesting that he could afford to install the 100lt tank, shock tower supports etc, but ran out of coin for the metal cooler shroud
Even I have one of those.......no tank or shock towers yet though
Posted by: sechszylinder Aug 12 2016, 12:16 PM
Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ...
The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one..
The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin.
Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ...
br
Benno
Posted by: 396 Aug 12 2016, 01:31 PM
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM)
Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ...
The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one..
The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin.
Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ...
br
Benno
Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above.
I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too?
Posted by: sechszylinder Aug 12 2016, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 11:31 AM)
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM)
Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ...
The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one..
The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin.
Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ...
br
Benno
Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above.
I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too?
Hi,
the chassis number should look like this
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313015
the vin tag should look like the 4 cylinder models but stating porsche as the manufacturer and not like the ones used on 911 and other newer porsche modells.
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313017
I've never seen an original -6 showing this kind of markings.
br
Benno
Posted by: 396 Aug 12 2016, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 11:31 AM)
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM)
Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ...
The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one..
The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin.
Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ...
br
Benno
Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above.
I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too?
Hi,
the chassis number should look like this
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313015
the vin tag should look like the 4 cylinder models but stating porsche as the manufacturer and not like the ones used on 911 and other newer porsche modells.
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313017
I've never seen an original -6 showing this kind of markings.
br
Benno
It's been awhile since I looked at mine, I guess I have to uncover mine to validate this.
Posted by: gms Aug 12 2016, 02:24 PM
QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 03:19 PM)
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 01:05 PM)
QUOTE(396 @ Aug 12 2016, 11:31 AM)
QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 12 2016, 11:16 AM)
Honestly, i'm a little bit in doubt, if this is an original car ...
The chassis number looks suspicious and the vin tag in the front trunk if definately not an original one..
The chassis number is missing the star before and after the actual vin.
Maybe the car has been repaired after a front crash ...
Maybe I'm wrong, but at this price one should take care of those details ...
br
Benno
Not to question your knowledge, I don't remember ever seeing this "star" before and after the vin tag. Also all the -6's that I've had the opportunity to view the vin on the body, is like the one presented in the link above.
I guess I should ask, do you actually a European-6 to compare these findings too?
Hi,
the chassis number should look like this
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313015
the vin tag should look like the 4 cylinder models but stating porsche as the manufacturer and not like the ones used on 911 and other newer porsche modells.
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/159313017
I've never seen an original -6 showing this kind of markings.
br
Benno
It's been awhile since I looked at mine, I guess I have to uncover mine to validate this.
Yes every 1970 or 1971 914/6 I have seen has a star before and after the VIN
the 1972 914/6 has an asterisk like the 914/4
Posted by: gms Aug 12 2016, 02:29 PM
and here is the the car made right before it
Posted by: sechszylinder Aug 12 2016, 11:47 PM
QUOTE(gms @ Aug 12 2016, 12:29 PM)
and here is the the car made right before it
so, it really seems to be a faked -6 and not the original car or a crash repair ?!?
br
benno
Posted by: SixerJ Aug 13 2016, 02:31 AM
I thought that given the proper evidence and participation of the factory they will re-stamp the chassis after say an inner wing replacement due to an accident
The numbers seem a bit too evenly spaced / lined up. On the production line I suspect they would not have been taking too long over the stamping
Does seem a bit odd and you would have thought the advert would be a bit more up front about the history
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