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Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 12 2016, 12:21 AM
I met a guy at a local Air Cooled VW Club meeting a few years back. He was an older guy who said he had a 914 in his garage and had never drove it. He asked for my contact info and if I ever worked on them. 2 years later I get a call from him asking if I could come look at the car. I grabbed a buddy and we headed over. When we arrived we saw several cars under tarps and I thought this thing was going to need a lot of work being an East Coast car. We we to a garage out back and there it was.... A 1972 local owned, zero rust car. He bought it from an estate sale 8 years ago. After chatting a bit I discovered he wanted to sell the car. After a little negotiating with house CEO and the pending Sale of my Mini S, I now own another 914. It felt like something out of American Pickers and I'm honored to have been able to buy this car. It has a re-spray but is very original with owners manual and tool pouch. I hope to bond with it this weekend and get it going. Any feedback or comments are appreciated.
Jon
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Posted by: Cuda911 Aug 12 2016, 12:30 AM
Very nice!!! Congrats!
Posted by: SKL1 Aug 12 2016, 12:40 AM
If it is actually zero or little rust, that is a great find! Love the steelies- looks like a time warp for sure!
Need more pix!!
Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 12 2016, 02:41 AM
Beautiful! Bring it to Okteenerfest 
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 12 2016, 03:44 AM
It was late getting home and my phone only allowed the one picture
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Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 12 2016, 03:49 AM
Taking a ride to her new home.
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Posted by: orthobiz Aug 12 2016, 04:14 AM
I agree, steelies rule!
Paul
Posted by: Big Len Aug 12 2016, 04:19 AM
Feedback= It's freakin' beautiful. Best of luck.
Need more pics.
Posted by: jrblackbox Aug 12 2016, 05:17 AM
Great looking car!!
Posted by: BeatNavy Aug 12 2016, 05:50 AM
And the East Coast crowd goes wild!!!
Nice score, and yet....you won't be able to lie awake at nights wondering where the rust worm is attacking your car while you sleep. That's most of the "fun" of owning a teener 
Congrats.
Posted by: wndsrfr Aug 12 2016, 05:58 AM
It was late getting home and my phone only allowed the one picture
Wake me up.....I'm having this great dream.....about a perfect teener....just too beautiful! Oh, it's real? Wow! How many miles on the ODO?
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Aug 12 2016, 06:21 AM
Looks great!!! Enjoy
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 12 2016, 06:38 AM
It was late getting home and my phone only allowed the one picture
Wake me up.....I'm having this great dream.....about a perfect teener....just too beautiful! Oh, it's real? Wow! How many miles on the ODO?
80882 miles
Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 12 2016, 06:50 AM
Wow - that is a great looking 914. You definitely won the lottery that day. Enjoy and please post a lot of pictures, you know the drill.
Posted by: JmuRiz Aug 12 2016, 06:52 AM
WOW, what a great find!!!
Posted by: mepstein Aug 12 2016, 06:53 AM
Looks like a new car
Posted by: billh1963 Aug 12 2016, 07:01 AM
WoW! 
Posted by: poorsche914 Aug 12 2016, 07:07 AM
And the cinnamon interior makes it 10x better
Posted by: scott_in_nh Aug 12 2016, 07:11 AM
Congrats! That thing is sweet!
I hope you paid out the ass for it so I can feel better about my eastern car 
Posted by: Coondog Aug 12 2016, 07:20 AM
Feedback= It's freakin' beautiful. Best of luck.
Posted by: scotty b Aug 12 2016, 07:30 AM
some guys 
Congrats on an outstanding looking car 
Posted by: 914Next Aug 12 2016, 07:42 AM
wow. Congrats! Looks like a really nice find. Love the color and condition.
Posted by: 76-914 Aug 12 2016, 07:42 AM
Posted by: napasteve Aug 12 2016, 08:23 AM
Fantastic. Love the color and the wheels. A real time machine. What a great find. Cue the Led Zeppelin 1 music.
Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn Aug 12 2016, 12:49 PM
Looks like a keeper. You are indeed fortunate that these days you can still find a seemingly well cared for and preserved 914. I too love the exterior Irish Green with the not often seen interior trim color. 
I do hope you keep it OEM as its condition merits it.
Paul
Posted by: iwanta914-6 Aug 12 2016, 01:07 PM
<---- Jealous!
Posted by: Shadowfax Aug 12 2016, 01:13 PM
Terrific looking car.
Posted by: Ian Stott Aug 12 2016, 02:25 PM
Really like the colour! Congrats on getting this teener, treat it right!
Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 15 2016, 08:29 PM
I bought a battery this weekend to get things going. Found a small fuel leak and the pump, so I replaced them. Added fresh fuel and checked point gap and condition. Turned the key and she came to life. There is a surge/ high revving, which I am sure is from a vacuum leak. She got a bath, clay bar and a coat of wax. More to come
Posted by: anderssj Aug 15 2016, 08:43 PM
Wholly shirts and pants! Was that Shek's car? Near the DQ off Rt-134 in south York County?
I think I drove that car back in JUL 2008 before he bought it . . . . 
It was a time capsule.
Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 15 2016, 08:51 PM
It's funny how people say they love the steelies but NOBODY really runs them.
They look cool, but I would buy that nice set of baby burners for it that are for sale in the FS threads right now….
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 15 2016, 08:58 PM
Wholly shirts and pants! Was that Shek's car? Near the DQ off Rt-134 in south York County?
I think I drove that car back in JUL 2008 before he bought it . . . .
It was a time capsule.
That's the one!! Cool guy
Posted by: anderssj Aug 15 2016, 09:02 PM
I checked the database entry I made back in 2008:
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"Recent purchase by a VW guy I met (Shek) some years back--he got the 914 at an estate sale. Said he used to park next to this car sometimes at NASA over 20 years ago.
The car's been garaged for the better part of 12 years. I saw it last Sunday--it's like looking at/into a time machine.
Roughly 80K original miles, Irish green with tan interior and appearance group. Has the movable pass-side seat, original style (non-interial) seat belts, Sapphire radio, Michelin XZX tires on steel rimes with good caps. Had an early round screw-in heater control knob intead of the later angular, push-on type."
I loaned him a couple of books and manuals some years back--but it looks like he never got around to doing anything with the car.
Another picture from before the estate sale:
You did good!
BTW, Shek did some AMAZING custom work on Karmann Ghias back in the day (not sure if he's still involved in that or not).
Posted by: mark04usa Aug 15 2016, 09:09 PM
Good looking car! I always love to see a 914 in original form, it just looks so right to me, especially with the steel wheels. Yes, I run steelies on my '70 914 
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 15 2016, 09:09 PM
I checked the database entry I made back in 2008:
4722907721
"Recent purchase by a VW guy I met (Shek) some years back--he got the 914 at an estate sale. Said he used to park next to this car sometimes at NASA over 20 years ago.
The car's been garaged for the better part of 12 years. I saw it last Sunday--it's like looking at/into a time machine.
Roughly 80K original miles, Irish green with tan interior and appearance group. Has the movable pass-side seat, original style (non-interial) seat belts, Sapphire radio, Michelin XZX tires on steel rimes with good caps. Had an early round screw-in heater control knob intead of the later angular, push-on type."
I loaned him a couple of books and manuals some years back--but it looks like he never got around to doing anything with the car.
Another picture from before the estate sale:
You did good!
BTW, Shek did some AMAZING custom work on Karmann Ghias back in the day (not sure if he's still involved in that or not).
I counted almost 35 VW's at his place. I'm not sure he works on them anymore. The car is amazing. Looks to be a 3 owner. Always here in Yorktown/ Newport News.
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 15 2016, 09:11 PM
Good looking car! I always love to see a 914 in original form, it just looks so right to me, especially with the steel wheels. Yes, I run steelies on my '70 914
Posted by: anderssj Aug 15 2016, 09:16 PM
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Always here in Yorktown/ Newport News.
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So you're here in the Y-town area too? You need to come by for a beer 
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 15 2016, 09:18 PM
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Always here in Yorktown/ Newport News.
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So you're here in the Y-town area too? You need to come by for a beer
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I sent you a PM with my info
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 28 2016, 06:12 PM
I'm new to the FI system... The car starts and idles at 3K rpm, after it warms up the idle comes down and it starts to surge. As the engine gets warmer it will slowly start to die then surge back up. The RPM goes to 3k then drops back down...The engine also gets very hot.... And pops and pings after I shut it off. Any thoughts on where to begin? Thanks in advance for the help.
Posted by: BeatNavy Aug 28 2016, 06:42 PM
I'm new to the FI system... The car starts and idles at 3K rpm, after it warms up the idle comes down and it starts to surge. As the engine gets warmer it will slowly start to die then surge back up. The RPM goes to 3k then drops back down...The engine also gets very hot.... And pops and pings after I shut it off. Any thoughts on where to begin? Thanks in advance for the help.
Jon, I'm going to give you the obligatory link: http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/djetparts.htm
And specific to idle: http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/idle.htm
If you're going to do your own work, you definitely need to learn about D-Jet, and that's about the best resource there is. You can figure it out, but there's a little bit of a learning curve particularly as you try to make up for years of maintenance that may or may not have been done. I like D-Jet personally, but there are a lot of variables in play, and if they haven't been serviced recently they're all suspect at some point.
My first guess would be that you're running lean, but that's just a guess at this point. You need to eliminate vacuum leaks and do some basic maintenance. I'd replace all the vacuum lines and perhaps have the injectors serviced. Then start looking to adjust valves and do the basic tune-up items (plugs, points, timing, fuel pressure, etc.).
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 30 2016, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the links... I have been reading up on the FI .... I found a vacuum leak on the intake tube. Made the repair, started it up and runs smooth. I hope to take it for a spin in this weekend. Wish me luck and thanks for the help.
Posted by: SKL1 Aug 30 2016, 07:34 PM
Looks like a good candidate for preservation class at some local or regional PCA events...
Posted by: Philip W. Aug 30 2016, 07:50 PM
Thanks for the links... I have been reading up on the FI .... I found a vacuum leak on the intake tube. Made the repair, started it up and runs smooth. I hope to take it for a spin in this weekend. Wish me luck and thanks for the help.
beautiful find and great when a car comes out of hiding and is enjoyed again! hope to see it at an event some time in the future- not too late to join us in NC in 3 weeks for the okteenerfest !
Posted by: theleschyouknow Aug 30 2016, 08:33 PM
beautiful car & color & interior way to go!
sorry if it's out of line but curious what a car like that sells for?
full disclosure & for reference: 2 years ago I found mine in the classifieds here, got it from a previously unknown seller, I paid $10,5000 -73 2.0 appearance/sport group car with ~180,000 miles and a salvage title(front end smack in the 80's but very well repaired -I can't find any evidence of it). 0 rust 
(ok very little rust) I'm the third owner and have all the service records from new and orig window sticker, complete tool kit & (other than the repair) it is all pretty much original
with knowledge here you'll have it running tip top in no time. enjoy!
cjl
Posted by: RobW Aug 30 2016, 08:36 PM
Posted by: Porschef Aug 31 2016, 04:19 AM
Running very hot? Stored under a tarp? 
I'd check carefully for evidence of Señor Rattón having made nest/s under your tins...
She's a beaut btw
Posted by: lvnzdrm Aug 31 2016, 11:40 AM
Thanks for the links... I have been reading up on the FI .... I found a vacuum leak on the intake tube. Made the repair, started it up and runs smooth. I hope to take it for a spin in this weekend. Wish me luck and thanks for the help.
beautiful find and great when a car comes out of hiding and is enjoyed again! hope to see it at an event some time in the future- not too late to join us in NC in 3 weeks for the okteenerfest !I've debated on heading out .... Not sure it will ready for such a trip so quickly. Still working out the bugs.
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Aug 31 2016, 12:35 PM
Running very hot? Stored under a tarp?
I'd check carefully for evidence of Señor Rattón having made nest/s under your tins...
She's a beaut btw
Yup. Mouse nests are a real possibility.
Also, fuel pressure.
Also valves.
Also timing.
Zach
Posted by: lvnzdrm Sep 2 2016, 06:38 PM
Getting ready for a day of rain in VA
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Posted by: Wdunster Sep 2 2016, 08:57 PM
Getting ready for a day of rain in VA
Common down for Okteenerfest!!!!! Still registering
don't be skeerd
Posted by: RickS Sep 4 2016, 08:46 AM
One of my absolute favorite color combinations. What a perfect time capsule. Congrats on a tremendous score.
For overheating, you may want to check if the cold start bellows are functioning correctly. I am far from a mechanic, but saw that was an issue on a teener Ed worked on, on Wheeler Dealers.
Posted by: lvnzdrm Sep 4 2016, 03:51 PM
Fixed the leaking fuel line, completed a 12 mile shake down drive. No fuel leaks and she drives great. Much better than my 71. Left turn signal doesn't work, checked the bulbs all ok. I suspect a bad connection in the switch when turning left it started to work. I also have the blinking brake lights on dash. It looks like the ebrake isn't hitting the switch. I've searched for a fix but do not see a thing for the early split lever. Car is so quiet and smooth.
Posted by: My 914 Sep 4 2016, 08:30 PM
Fixed the leaking fuel line, completed a 12 mile shake down drive. No fuel leaks and she drives great. Much better than my 71. Left turn signal doesn't work, checked the bulbs all ok. I suspect a bad connection in the switch when turning left it started to work. I also have the blinking brake lights on dash. It looks like the ebrake isn't hitting the switch. I've searched for a fix but do not see a thing for the early split lever. Car is so quiet and smooth.
Its nice. I like the green with the tan interior combo.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 5 2016, 05:46 AM
Fixed the leaking fuel line, completed a 12 mile shake down drive. No fuel leaks and she drives great. Much better than my 71. Left turn signal doesn't work, checked the bulbs all ok. I suspect a bad connection in the switch when turning left it started to work. I also have the blinking brake lights on dash. It looks like the ebrake isn't hitting the switch. I've searched for a fix but do not see a thing for the early split lever. Car is so quiet and smooth.
I have the early handbrake in my car.
When I release it I apply force on the rear of the handle to insure that the part that presses on the switch rotates down fully.
It's not ideal and you could never explain it to a new driver but I can always get the light to go out.
Check the brake pad clearance and the brake cable adjustment.
Sometimes the handles are weak or bent and miss the switch completely.
And of course the wire could be grounding somewhere.
Posted by: lvnzdrm Sep 5 2016, 04:44 PM
Fixed the leaking fuel line, completed a 12 mile shake down drive. No fuel leaks and she drives great. Much better than my 71. Left turn signal doesn't work, checked the bulbs all ok. I suspect a bad connection in the switch when turning left it started to work. I also have the blinking brake lights on dash. It looks like the ebrake isn't hitting the switch. I've searched for a fix but do not see a thing for the early split lever. Car is so quiet and smooth.
I have the early handbrake in my car.
When I release it I apply force on the rear of the handle to insure that the part that presses on the switch rotates down fully.
It's not ideal and you could never explain it to a new driver but I can always get the light to go out.
Check the brake pad clearance and the brake cable adjustment.
Sometimes the handles are weak or bent and miss the switch completely.
And of course the wire could be grounding somewhere.
Thanks for the info, it worked like a champ. My 71 doesn't have a switch in it yet (floor board repair). I pushed down on the rear half of the handle and the light went out. I understand why it would be hard to explain to a driver.
I drove another 12 miles today. There was a hesitation when turning.... I have to keep doing the shake down drives. Hoping to make a local car show in 2 weeks.
Posted by: 9fourteen14 Sep 5 2016, 07:52 PM
I met a guy at a local Air Cooled VW Club meeting a few years back. He was an older guy who said he had a 914 in his garage and had never drove it. He asked for my contact info and if I ever worked on them. 2 years later I get a call from him asking if I could come look at the car. I grabbed a buddy and we headed over. When we arrived we saw several cars under tarps and I thought this thing was going to need a lot of work being an East Coast car. We we to a garage out back and there it was.... A 1972 local owned, zero rust car. He bought it from an estate sale 8 years ago. After chatting a bit I discovered he wanted to sell the car. After a little negotiating with house CEO and the pending Sale of my Mini S, I now own another 914. It felt like something out of American Pickers and I'm honored to have been able to buy this car. It has a re-spray but is very original with owners manual and tool pouch. I hope to bond with it this weekend and get it going. Any feedback or comments are appreciated.
Jon
WOW what a find. it looks pristene from here.... but you MUST tell us the real story.
have you gotten under it yet?
congrats I am jealous
Posted by: lvnzdrm Apr 14 2017, 03:42 PM
I need some help with this 72, it quit running on me and I'm fighting gremlins. This what I have done so far:
Valve adjustment
Test and replace CHT
Test and repaired AAR
Replaced Vaccumm lines
Test and Passed MSP
Pertronix installed- after points drove me crazy
Triggers points Ohmed out cleaned and tested
Fuel pressure tested 30psi
Replaced fuel filter
Cleaned ground on center engine case
Attempted to set timing, car not making any power
Car starts when cold and idles fine, then starts to slowly die. Car makes no power. I can not get it to rev up. The goal is to drive it to Hershey in 7 days, my wife says I look like a kid with a broke big wheel. Any help is appreciated. If not sorted by end of weekend I'll have to work on plan B for Friday
Thanks in advance
Posted by: injunmort Apr 14 2017, 04:45 PM
swap the coil it could be failing or alternator has packed up. sounds like your spark is breaking down.
Posted by: BeatNavy Apr 14 2017, 05:00 PM
Jon, based on symptoms described I would recommend carefully inspecting the wiring between the CHT and ECU for shorts. These harnesses get old and brittle, and your CHT may be new but if the connection is sketchy or plain shorted you will experience symptoms like what you have. Good luck. Gotta get it fixed for Hershey!
Posted by: lvnzdrm Apr 14 2017, 05:08 PM
Swapped coil, no change. It will only run on starting fluid than shuts off. No fuel.... how do I test the pump running when the car fires? Vapor lock maybe???
All help is appreciated
Posted by: lvnzdrm Apr 14 2017, 05:18 PM
Jon, based on symptoms described I would recommend carefully inspecting the wiring between the CHT and ECU for shorts. These harnesses get old and brittle, and your CHT may be new but if the connection is sketchy or plain shorted you will experience symptoms like what you have. Good luck. Gotta get it fixed for Hershey!
Completed the wiggle test through the harness, if it sits for about 15 minutes it will start up for a second then shut off...3 hours ago it was purring.... then shut off. Plan B may be the 71
Posted by: injunmort Apr 14 2017, 05:54 PM
disconnect the harness from the the fuel pump, run jumper wires to the post from a 12 volt battery and see if the pump runs continuously. if it does, not the pump go backwards on the wiring
Posted by: lvnzdrm Apr 14 2017, 05:59 PM
disconnect the harness from the the fuel pump, run jumper wires to the post from a 12 volt battery and see if the pump runs continuously. if it does, not the pump go backwards on the wiring
The pump comes on with the key, then stops. When cranking I can feel the pump working. It never starts up. Should I cut open the harness to check all the wires?
Posted by: lvnzdrm Apr 16 2017, 04:27 PM
I got it running.... it was a faulty "ID 10 Tee" valve.... and the "OOG" sensor failed. Drove the car close to 200 miles. Thanks for all the help.
Jon
Posted by: bigkensteele Apr 16 2017, 07:06 PM
I got it running.... it was a faulty "ID 10 Tee" valve.... and the "OOG" sensor failed. Drove the car close to 200 miles. Thanks for all the help.
Jon
Time to fess up. What was it?
Posted by: lvnzdrm Apr 16 2017, 08:11 PM
Some how...... it was Out Of Gas.....
Posted by: jd74914 Apr 16 2017, 08:19 PM
I've BTDT before though...
Look like a beautiful car!
Posted by: bigkensteele Apr 16 2017, 08:32 PM
I got it running.... it was a faulty "ID 10 Tee" valve.... and the "OOG" sensor failed. Drove the car close to 200 miles. Thanks for all the help.
Jon
Time to fess up. What was it?
I wouldn't feel too bad about that. I ran out of gas on my first trip in my car. I found out the hard way that 3/8 on the gauge was empty. I have since cleaned up my sending unit, and I think that it is probably accurate, but I have no reason to take it to less than 3/8, so why risk it?
Posted by: porschetub Apr 17 2017, 12:29 AM
I got it running.... it was a faulty "ID 10 Tee" valve.... and the "OOG" sensor failed. Drove the car close to 200 miles. Thanks for all the help.
Jon
Time to fess up. What was it?
I wouldn't feel too bad about that. I ran out of gas on my first trip in my car. I found out the hard way that 3/8 on the gauge was empty. I have since cleaned up my sending unit, and I think that it is probably accurate, but I have no reason to take it to less than 3/8, so why risk it?
no shame on that,old cars eh?..have found in the past with my paddock collection that they read fuel onboard and die after a short run,usually involves a walk with a fuel can
and then the level seems to show correctly...happened many times.Powered by Invision Power Board (http://www.invisionboard.com)
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