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Posted by: jkb944t Aug 20 2016, 06:40 AM
I need to know what the correct height of a 914-6 motor is at the front of the motor as shown in the picture. I think my motor is too high at the front.
Jeff B
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 20 2016, 11:01 AM
QUOTE(jkb944t @ Aug 20 2016, 08:40 AM)
I need to know what the correct height of a 914-6 motor is at the front of the motor as shown in the picture. I think my motor is too high at the front.
Jeff B
Stock mount, real 6
Dayton graduate.
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Posted by: wndsnd Aug 20 2016, 08:37 PM
Well my car is a conversion, so my answer is not what you are looking for, but it interested me after seeing your post so I measured it.
I have a modified custom mount and we actually played with it in a couple of variations. First I was concerned about shift rod clearance. Secondly I was concerned with sheet metal fitment.
We finally settled on matching the sheet metal to the engine bay gasketing and shelf, which gave me plenty of clearance on the shift rod.
After all was said and done, measuring like you did in your photo, we are basically dead on together...
My measurement matches yours as shown. FWIW...
Posted by: porschetub Aug 20 2016, 09:24 PM
QUOTE(wndsnd @ Aug 21 2016, 02:37 PM)
Well my car is a conversion, so my answer is not what you are looking for, but it interested me after seeing your post so I measured it.
I have a modified custom mount and we actually played with it in a couple of variations. First I was concerned about shift rod clearance. Secondly I was concerned with sheet metal fitment.
We finally settled on matching the sheet metal to the engine bay gasketing and shelf, which gave me plenty of clearance on the shift rod.
After all was said and done, measuring like you did in your photo, we are basically dead on together...
My measurement matches yours as shown. FWIW...
Thanks for reply John I will check mine when the rain stops and hopefully help the OP also,think my height is correct but PO has cocked up my engine carrier mount and the engine is too far rearwards.
Measurements @ the gearbox mounts shows around 15mm out ,ticks me off as he said the mount was a exact copy of an original -6 mount he had the use of for a pattern.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Aug 21 2016, 06:40 AM
QUOTE(jkb944t @ Aug 20 2016, 08:40 AM)
I need to know what the correct height of a 914-6 motor is at the front of the motor as shown in the picture. I think my motor is too high at the front.
Jeff B
As John mentioned, if the engine tin lines up with the engine shelf and
gasket on the body, it should be fine.
If it is a factory 6 with a factory mount, there isn't much play to be had.
What doesn't fit that makes you think it is too high ??
Posted by: jkb944t Aug 22 2016, 06:05 AM
Mine is a -6 conversion and I made the engine mount myself to match drawings that I generated from a real -6. Unfortunately I misplaced the drawings of the mount and I don't have the measurements anymore.
The concern is that I don't think the front section of the engine tin matches the seal as well as I would like. I thought my engine might be too high at the front.
It sounds like I might be OK but if anyone has more measurements I am open to listening to suggestions on the correct height. Thanks!
Jeff B
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 22 2016, 06:29 AM
QUOTE(jkb944t @ Aug 22 2016, 08:05 AM)
Mine is a -6 conversion and I made the engine mount myself to match drawings that I generated from a real -6. Unfortunately I misplaced the drawings of the mount and I don't have the measurements anymore.
The concern is that I don't think the front section of the engine tin matches the seal as well as I would like. I thought my engine might be too high at the front.
It sounds like I might be OK but if anyone has more measurements I am open to listening to suggestions on the correct height. Thanks!
Jeff B
Hi Jeff
The picture that I posted illustrates that there is less than a 1/4" difference in height
between your engine and my original 6 engine.
Other measurements ?
......... I think you'll be OK.
Rory
Posted by: 6freak Aug 23 2016, 08:13 AM
trans mounted proper ??
Posted by: mb911 Aug 23 2016, 04:09 PM
Interesting info here. I remember my last conversion the engine did sit exactly how I wanted it.. I am now actually considering putting my stock 914-6 mount in without the engine being installed. Crazy I know but the stock one fits in only 1 way..
Posted by: mb911 Aug 23 2016, 04:09 PM
Interesting info here. I remember my last conversion the engine did sit exactly how I wanted it.. I am now actually considering putting my stock 914-6 mount in without the engine being installed. Crazy I know but the stock one fits in only 1 way..
Posted by: porschetub Aug 23 2016, 05:36 PM
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way ,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours?
Posted by: wndsnd Aug 23 2016, 07:31 PM
I used the lower lip 3.5" measurement
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 23 2016, 08:56 PM
QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 23 2016, 07:36 PM)
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way
,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours?
I removed the engine lid.
It was the only way to duplicate the measurement provided by the OP.
Kind of difficult to keep the tape measure in place and the camera steady at the same time.
I then spent the afternoon getting back to my carburetors after changing
venturies, mains, idles, emulsions and air corrections two weeks before.
Very nice results.
Posted by: jkb944t Aug 24 2016, 10:41 AM
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Aug 23 2016, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 23 2016, 07:36 PM)
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way
,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours?
I removed the engine lid.
It was the only way to duplicate the measurement provided by the OP.
Kind of difficult to keep the tape measure in place and the camera steady at the same time.
I then spent the afternoon getting back my carburetors after changing
venturies, mains, idles, emulsions and air corrections two weeks before.
Very nice results.
It did take a considerable amount of dexterity and several tries to take that picture.
What did your measurement turn out to be?
Jeff B
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 24 2016, 10:50 AM
QUOTE(jkb944t @ Aug 24 2016, 12:41 PM)
QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Aug 23 2016, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE(porschetub @ Aug 23 2016, 07:36 PM)
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way
,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours?
I removed the engine lid.
It was the only way to duplicate the measurement provided by the OP.
Kind of difficult to keep the tape measure in place and the camera steady at the same time.
I then spent the afternoon getting back my carburetors after changing
venturies, mains, idles, emulsions and air corrections two weeks before.
Very nice results.
It did take a considerable amount of dexterity and several tries to take that picture.
What did your measurement turn out to be?
Jeff B
There is a crease in the metal right behind 5 - 5/16" same references as the OP
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