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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 01:57 PM
Anyone here remember the name of the kid with a silver factory /6 that had a 3.6L in it?
He used to post quite frequently several years ago.
I think he was from So-Cal ...
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 21 2016, 02:01 PM
George Hussy?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 02:06 PM
Great, first reply is gonna completely derail this thread. Sigh ...
Posted by: Sleepin Aug 21 2016, 02:33 PM
Enrique Mar?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 02:35 PM
Enrique Mar?
No, he's got the Signal Orange car.
Different guy, used to post a lot for a while.
Posted by: Sleepin Aug 21 2016, 02:36 PM
Mike Wills?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 02:42 PM
Sleepin?
Posted by: Sleepin Aug 21 2016, 02:53 PM
My silver car was a half six...no where near 3.6. More like 1.5.
I don't think it was me.
Posted by: Gustl Aug 21 2016, 03:01 PM
if 3.0 would be o.k. for you, it might be "dbu356" 
Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 21 2016, 03:06 PM
I know who you're talking about. Can't think of the name right now either so, not much help. I thought he had 3.6 in his name. Projected stalled for a while, I thought he was going to get it back on track last year though.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 21 2016, 03:07 PM
It's not Steve (siverson) is it?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 03:08 PM
It's not Steve (siverson) is it?
Nope and i think you are right, he might have had 3.6 in his username.
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Aug 21 2016, 03:09 PM
Think he was from Palm Springs or maybe Hemet if that helps.
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 03:11 PM
Hmmm, did he rename or delete his account?
Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 21 2016, 03:15 PM
I don't think so. It was a pretty bitch'n build if we're thinking of the same guy. Someone here must have it bookmarked. If I recall, someone bumped his thread recently and asked him the progress. Something about body-shop issues and he needed to get back at it.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 21 2016, 03:23 PM
Marv's3.6six.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 21 2016, 03:26 PM
Harry Wong ? Silver -6 with 3.6L in So Cal
Posted by: bulitt Aug 21 2016, 03:29 PM
This one Elliot?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=41464&hl=
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 21 2016, 03:34 PM
This one Elliot?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=41464&hl=
Yep. Marv's car is one of the nicest I have ever seen. EVER.
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 03:37 PM
No, not Marv either.
Ok, this is starting to freak me out...
I can't find a single post from the guy anywhere. I went through the moderator logs and found no evidence of a rename or delete of any kind.
I'm almost certain he had 3.6 in his name.
The car was originally yellow and redone in silver and stuffed with a 3.6L engine.
He used to post a lot of pictures of him driving it on the backroads in Socal. Young guy.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 21 2016, 03:58 PM
Craig ? Patrick MS 3.6 in a silver car...?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 04:08 PM
Craig ? Patrick MS 3.6 in a silver car...?
Craig who? We only have what, 10,000 Craig's?
Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 21 2016, 04:09 PM
Marv's is the one I was thinking of.
Was the one you're thinking about built from 2 cars? One with a real six VIN and the other with a good body???
Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 21 2016, 04:10 PM
It might help if we knew the time frame you are looking at; I have a lot of pics from WCRs since 2005
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 04:10 PM
Yepp, that's the one ...
Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 21 2016, 04:15 PM
Lemme see what I can do...
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 04:54 PM
Lemme see what I can do...
Found him!
Thanks Erc ...
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 21 2016, 05:10 PM
Lemme see what I can do...
Found him!
Thanks Erc ...
OK, so who the hell is it??
Posted by: MDG Aug 21 2016, 08:28 PM
I remember exactly who you mean...
What was his name?
Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 21 2016, 09:13 PM
Didn't "dgw" (or "krk"?) have a Six that was a stitched-together car? That someone sold to him as not a Frankenstein?
--DD
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2016, 09:39 PM
Yes, but KrK is not who i was looking for.
For starters, he's not a young guy ...
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 21 2016, 10:16 PM
AND A NAME... 
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Aug 22 2016, 12:57 AM
Y'all suffering from CRS
Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 22 2016, 05:27 AM
Andy:
Curious minds need to see..........
Posted by: AZ914 Aug 22 2016, 07:25 AM
He called it Zombie 914-6 ?
Posted by: 76-914 Aug 22 2016, 08:29 AM
Wait a minute. Andy had a difficult time using the search feature? Roll the trucks. We have a headline!
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 22 2016, 08:59 AM
This one Elliot?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=41464&hl=
Yep. Marv's car is one of the nicest I have ever seen. EVER.
Thanks Elliot. I went sporting about town yesterday, drove around Huntington, Seal and Long Beach areas. The car is soooooo fun to drive, slow, fast whatever.
Slight hijack... Sorry Andy.
Posted by: Sleepin Aug 22 2016, 09:02 AM
Craig ? Patrick MS 3.6 in a silver car...?
Craig who? We only have what, 10,000 Craig's?
At least his name wasn't Mike. Mikes seem to like buying 914s as there are about 200 of them on here.
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 11:25 AM
Try searching for "Dude who's name i can't remember that has a silver 914" and see how far you get with the search ...
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 11:26 AM
Anyways, there is a story here and i think it may be time that story was told.
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Posted by: 76-914 Aug 22 2016, 11:47 AM
Try searching for "Dude who's name i can't remember that has a silver 914" and see how far you get with the search ...
Anyways, there is a story here and i think it may be time that story was told.
Do tell.............
Posted by: 914 Ranch Aug 22 2016, 04:17 PM
Posted by: 2mAn Aug 22 2016, 04:27 PM
waiting for the story
Posted by: sb914 Aug 22 2016, 04:35 PM
C'mon,what's the story man? Maybe drivability knows?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 05:13 PM
Here's the short version:
2009: Guy buys VIN tags and assorted parts (no engine) from a cut up and rusted out factory 914-6 for $3,950
2011: Guy starts posting here showing pictures of his "factory six" that clearly show a /4 tub with /6 parts
2014: Guy sells the car as a restored original /6 for $35,600
2016: Car is now for sale online for $75,000 and again represented as a restored but otherwise original /6
Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 22 2016, 05:16 PM
I think you should have left them in suspended dramamation a little longer... that was fun!
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 05:23 PM
I think you should have left them in suspended dramamation a little longer... that was fun!
Well, there still is the LOOOOOONG version of the story ...
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 22 2016, 05:35 PM
Sounds like the '67 Corvette 435 world.
Someone's gonna have some 'splainin to do
Posted by: 2mAn Aug 22 2016, 05:37 PM
I would love to see the pics of the ad from 2014 and the current one
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 06:05 PM
I would love to see the pics of the ad from 2014 and the current one
The car hasn't changed between 2014 and 2016. In fact, the current Ad uses pictures from the 2014 Ad.
The real juicy pictures are the ones from the 2009 pile of rust when compared to any of the ones that came later.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 22 2016, 06:08 PM
Quit fooling around and give us details! Pictures! Suspects!
Something! PLEASE?
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 22 2016, 06:14 PM
Is this it?
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/porsche/914-6/1830699.html
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 06:22 PM
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/porsche/914-6/1830699.html
Nope ...
Posted by: echocanyons Aug 22 2016, 07:29 PM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=115069&hl=
Is this the thread?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 07:35 PM
Is this the thread?
Looks like the
Also worth noting that the "before" pictures you see there of the Gold Metallic original car were taken *before* it was cut up for parts in 2009.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 22 2016, 09:02 PM
Wrong rivets and the sticker looks suspect... I do not believe this is the gold car. Too many pics of the silver roller...
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 09:15 PM
You mean like silver factory paint under 40 years of dirt everywhere.
Plus, my favorite, the very obvious signs of removed /4 engine mounts.
But most importantly, read the 2009 Ad for the stash of parts carefully:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=membervins&action=view&viewid=12319
There was no gold car left to restore ...
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 22 2016, 09:30 PM
Sad part is that in his zombie 914-6 build thread, most of you turkeys were buttering him up. Someone should have called him out. Now there is a fake -6 out there and someone will get suckered.
People suck!
Posted by: arkitect Aug 22 2016, 09:32 PM
I'd hate to be the owner of that 'original' 6. Not too much value in a fake.
Dave
Posted by: 2mAn Aug 22 2016, 10:19 PM
It doesnt look like he ever (in his build thread) claimed it to be an original -6, though he certainly let everyone believe that. It was pretty obvious but at the price it sold in '14 its not too far out of range IMO, but it definitely is now... sucks for whoever bought it in 2014
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 22 2016, 10:25 PM
His 2nd post in his build thread:
VIN 9141430205
Looks like a pretty strong claim to me ...
Posted by: SixerJ Aug 23 2016, 12:08 AM
Err isn't that a felony? 
Posted by: 2mAn Aug 23 2016, 12:21 AM
His 2nd post in his build thread:
VIN 9141430205
Looks like a pretty strong claim to me ...
Posted by: mrgreenjeans Aug 23 2016, 12:44 AM
His 2nd post in his build thread:
VIN 9141430205
Looks like a pretty strong claim to me ...
I remember this thread and had a hinkie feeling something wasn't right about it all those years ago. I wondered then about the pics and no one said anything, so I thought there has to be a fountain of knowledge here that isn't acknowledging what I suspect,
the story:
It was too smooth.... too good to be true.
What's going on with the car today ? Is the current owner on the Forums and where is the previous owner ?
Posted by: SixerJ Aug 23 2016, 04:19 AM
Basic Google search on
porsche 914-6 vin 9141430205
pulls this page up right away http://www.2040-cars.com/Porsche/914/zombie-914-6-284468/
You would hope that a potential buyer does a Google search on their soon to be ride, nothing from 914world in the results though?
Posted by: mepstein Aug 23 2016, 05:51 AM
But in all fairness, read post #49 on the thread. The guy who wrote it is sure one cynical pita.
Posted by: KELTY360 Aug 23 2016, 08:23 AM
But in all fairness, read post #49 on the thread. The guy who wrote it is sure one cynical pita.
Yeah, also check out Post #53 - 15% original, 85% fabrication. Looks like fabrication is the operative word.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=115069&st=40
Posted by: Chris H. Aug 23 2016, 09:04 AM
That is BS. And I would assume ILLEGAL in CA as mentioned before.
And a '71 too...someone thinks they have a rare treasure. What they have is a nice 914-4 conversion car with a rare VIN number added to the tub.
Posted by: Whitney Mic Aug 23 2016, 09:53 AM
Basic Google search on
porsche 914-6 vin 9141430205
pulls this page up right away http://www.2040-cars.com/Porsche/914/zombie-914-6-284468/
You would hope that a potential buyer does a Google search on their soon to be ride, nothing from 914world in the results though?
I'm new enough here to be unsure of how this has been dealt with in the past, but I think someone with good evidence should drop a message at the 'complaint' tab on the page at the link in SixerJ's post.
If enough people are making a noise about it, the problem should take care of itself.
This looks like an intentional fraud by some
jerk (disclaimer: I only joined the forum a couple of months ago, I don't know this member, and have no idea if he actually . Appears he might do, if he sold that zombie as the real thing, though)... If it is, the facts are out there. The new owner may look the car up by the VIN again, join the forum, or something.He or she will see and sue, and we can
, 
, and feel good that maybe we helped.-- Whit
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 23 2016, 11:40 AM
Yepp, several of us suspected something fishy but at the time, it was his "dream car" that he built for himself and he wasn't trying to sell it.
Funny, when i added the 2009 Ad to the VIN database, i wrote:
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 23 2016, 07:55 PM
Basic Google search on
porsche 914-6 vin 9141430205
pulls this page up right away http://www.2040-cars.com/Porsche/914/zombie-914-6-284468/
You would hope that a potential buyer does a Google search on their soon to be ride, nothing from 914world in the results though?
I'm new enough here to be unsure of how this has been dealt with in the past, but I think someone with good evidence should drop a message at the 'complaint' tab on the page at the link in SixerJ's post.
If enough people are making a noise about it, the problem should take care of itself.
This looks like an intentional fraud by some
jerk (disclaimer: I only joined the forum a couple of months ago, I don't know this member, and have no idea if he actually . Appears he might do, if he sold that zombie as the real thing, though)... If it is, the facts are out there. The new owner may look the car up by the VIN again, join the forum, or something.He or she will see and sue, and we can
, , and feel good that maybe we helped.-- Whit
Done!
Sale site pulled down.
Posted by: RobW Aug 23 2016, 08:03 PM
Wow. Nice job Matlock 
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 23 2016, 08:20 PM
Wow. Nice job Matlock
I'm a shit disturber...
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 23 2016, 08:22 PM
That fine young fellow will be far more difficult to find now.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 23 2016, 08:26 PM
That fine young fellow will be far more difficult to find now.
There are some LEO's on this board who might want to visit him...
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 23 2016, 08:46 PM
-4 engine mount removal... 
Posted by: Whitney Mic Aug 23 2016, 10:45 PM
Wow. Nice job Matlock
I'm a shit disturber...
According to several friends I have, people who proudly wear the banner you use as an avatar consider shit disturbing to be an occupational advantage...
Thanks for your service Mike. I hope you have overcome and healed from any and all of the trauma such service can involve.
Also, I am glad to have had an idea someone thought was useful, for once...
-- Whit
Posted by: 914 Ranch Aug 24 2016, 10:34 AM
Thanks Andy, I'm up to date now.
Posted by: mrgreenjeans Aug 25 2016, 11:58 PM
Is there a way Andy to link this thread to the other Black list thread so the two are intertwined ?
Just so it's easier to reference the thread which precipitated the need for the origination of that black list ?
Posted by: r_towle Aug 26 2016, 10:11 AM
I seem to recall a yellow "six" being built by a member here and the build thread stopped when someone pointed out the /4 engine mounts on his freshly painted "six" tub. I wonder what happened to that car...
Posted by: billh1963 Aug 26 2016, 01:37 PM
It doesnt look like he ever (in his build thread) claimed it to be an original -6, though he certainly let everyone believe that.
In his 2014 ebay ad he said this...
*To build a car like this would take 90 to $100,000 dollars...And most likely it would be a conversion car...
This is implying his car is the real deal
Posted by: socalstuttgart Aug 26 2016, 04:36 PM
Hey Guys,
First off, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, I did combine two cars and yes I was discrete about it because I was told when I went to licenses it that the CHP was going to crush it after 2 1/2 years of rust work!!! I was terrified. Not of going to jail but because I was afraid my dream car was going to get destroyed and I'd never get to use it. Thank you SirAndy for pointing out that I never intended to sell it! I didn't sell it because I wanted to, I honestly didn't even need them money!! I sold it because my friend did! We split the money and when I gave that friend half I went to Las Vegas with the other half and blew it all because I wanted that car since I was 14 years old and bought my first 1975 914 2.0 (WITH PAPERROUTE MONEY)! At the time I felt like my life was over (2014)!! In the end my friend felt so bad she gave me her half back but it was too late! So, yes I built a 1971 914-6 back from the dead (hence the zombie 914-6 nomenclature and insiders all new this) and yes I sold it for 36k but I also had it advertised for 75k and took it down! I honestly got more calls on it then and I don't care that I could have sold it for 75 and I really feel bad that the new owner didn't fully get 914's!! I didn't want to sell it (I'll yell it from the mountain tops!).
All that being said, if I could find the new owner and I could buy it back I would for the exact same amount! I bought it because I wouldn't take a 911T engine from a 914-6, especially a '71, I would ONLY do it to a junked 914-6 which was what I did. Sue me, jail me, hang me from my neck until dead, but I would have done it ALL again, but I did my best to sell it honestly without getting it crushed!!! I truly would't have sold it, though, since I got the money back and bought a piece of junk car which I promptly returned after using for a few miles because it was too expensive and I couldn't trade it for another porsche because the porsche seller quickly found out it was in a wreck. I still owe on that wrecked (it was showing an insurance payout on the carfaxand from before I bought it and I got it at a non-porsche factory dealership as a certified pre-owned (non porsche). Not that the car looked or drove wrecked but still THAT wasn't cool, it became impossible to sell after that and my rule is never to buy a car you can't sell for at least what you pay and to sell a car that was my dream to own since I was old enough to drive and was the apex of my first car in HS; no money was enough tbh! 20k in fact I still owe. If I hadn't sold the 914 I wouldn't owe that 20k! Holy cow, but people warned me not to restore that car...which I did anyway since I love 914's and people remember things like this, obviously! Which is why I posted pics and told the story when I finished it just in case I ever did have to sell it (can anyone remember me asking if it was possible to change that last vin? if so, you know what I chose). So people wouldn't do what some are calling for jail for. Yes, people do awful things for profit but I'm happy to say I'm not one of them! If I am, jail me, I didn't mean to be, that's honest! I simply built a car that I couldn't afford any other way...it cost me about 36k to build and exactly one good friendship which is the biggest crime. I miss my car and my friend very much.
Once I sold a 914 conversion with a 3.2 and the new owner wanted me to reseal the engine about a year or so later (maybe even six months). I told him no and that was because I had let the Porsche dealership inspect it for like 2 days and he asked for new seat belts, which it promptly installed myself! In fact! I wish I could have installed George's awesome retractible seat belts like I had in the Zombie! Those made me feel safer as did Eric's rebuilt (excuse me, restored) 911 Carrera brakes! yes, I learned and yes my cars have never ever been perfect (or safe, buy a saturn if you want that) but they are very fun! 914's have never been anything to me but fun! I make money sometimes (probably not much if any) but I enjoy them for what they are! Reliable and fast. I am 40 guys, not a kid, not a price gouger, but I am passionate about my hobbies and man I am lucky to have them.
I don't want money but unfortunately these cars are sometimes expensive. The great thing is I generally break even and that is truly economical! The reason I hardly ever post is because of how catty some of you are (human beings like to gossip) and yes, I like to do my stuff in peace. I don't enjoy talking about Porsches or wearing Porsche apparel and if you care to know more about me I am currently sitting in my black 996 turbo on my way up north on hwy 101 along the pacific coast! My life is great one moment and hard the next but truly Porsche's have been my joy! I like to tinker with them and each time I do something with them I learn more about life which is a win win! Kind of like when you sell a porsche and break even! Win win!
If you want to throw me in jail go ahead! I would love to die for my cause and that would be a fitting end of my life! How great to show the world how car guys die. Not in a car accident after all (like my younger days I was warned) but to rot in jail because non car guys don't know how to tell the difference between a factory 6 and 4 and why should they be even worth any different? They're both wonderful and I enjoy and restore both! I honestly didn't even change all of the vin's. When the new owner asked me about the wheel well I told him that I used a 1971 chassis and he got that vin too since the seller of the original six sold that to me. I don't mind, he didn't complain, not to me. If he wanted to end it right then and there he could have but nope. So, I will make this offer once. If whoever had the car still wants 36,000 for it and it's been well cared for I will buy it back. I will work it for it and I will even pay that much if it's not been serviced, however, if it's been destroyed in anyway I will be pissed! The last two cars (914's that is) I sold have been changed too much and I never wanted them back. The Zombie needed to be serviced and it needed a few cosmetic things and that's it (to my knowledge if anything else I'll take care of that too, obviously, but not anything like new paint or changed body). The transmission had just been completely gone through. Other than the engine having some miles on it it ran great and the brakes were still wonderful (thanks Eric).
I'll answer anymore questions if you'd like on here and my offer is true! I honestly just told my girlfriend about 2 weeks ago that I thought it may be up for sale soon and if so I want to buy it back...seriously I just today found this thread since a friend tipped me off.
Okay...I'm not even going to proof read this because my girl is getting bored and is falling asleep at this gas station/hardwarestore parking lot! lol. Yes, it's a real 914-6, all the parts will tell you that the INTRINSIC value was priced as such and they are rare parts to be sure, but the chassis is from the same year 1.7 liter. I removed the dash and as much of the non important parts as possible as a learning experiment. It's like saying Ghostbusters and Want a New Drug are the same songs or that one copied the other...no, different songs but similar engineering. They probably reverse engineered the same song at the same time. lol. Okay...I'm not defending my work, it's not the best, I'm just telling you what happened and offering to buy it back at the same price. That's more than fair, that's a win/win/win! But if I need to spend some time in jail for being a putts, so be it!!!
Good day!
PS. 914's are all VW's anyway ;-) (irony)
I said GOOD DAY!!!
Posted by: Ferg Aug 26 2016, 04:54 PM
Posted by: Andyrew Aug 26 2016, 05:09 PM
I was told when I went to licenses it that the CHP was going to crush it after 2 1/2 years of rust work!!!
Please explain this some more...
Im not quite getting why the CHP was going to crush it. Only that you switched vins to prevent it from being crushed.
What was the CHP's reason for crushing it?
Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 26 2016, 05:16 PM
beg to ask, why even bother with the #s? What do you estimate the premium was rather than just the value of a well done coversion? That you lay the story ALL out there, publicly, is both amazing and mystifying. Bold!
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 26 2016, 05:47 PM
Good intentions or not...
What you did is illegal in all 50 states. Now the cat is out of the bag and the new owner has a fake 914-6. Sure it's a nice car but it is fraud.
CHP would have and still might crush it due to the fake VIN. The new owner will be out all his money if caught.
You could have fixed up the silver roller with a 3.6L with the -4 VIN and be fine. You wanted a 914-6 and fraudulently changed the VIN. There is no excuse for this.
Posted by: mepstein Aug 26 2016, 05:51 PM
Well if you offer to buy it back at the same price it's not illigal vin tampering, it's just a slightly confused 914-6. Because if your intentions are good, everything is rainbows and unicorns. No worries.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 26 2016, 05:53 PM
Well if you offer to buy it back at the same price it's not illigal vin tampering, it's just a slightly confused 914-6. Because if your intentions are good, everything is rainbows and unicorns. No worries.
No. It's still illegal VIN tampering. Only the fraud for sale charge may be dropped.
Posted by: Vapor_locked Aug 26 2016, 06:08 PM
uh.... 
please tell me there are drugs involved here somehow, it may make this seem...no, it wouldn't matter, nevermind!
Posted by: socalstuttgart Aug 26 2016, 11:46 PM
Well if you offer to buy it back at the same price it's not illigal vin tampering, it's just a slightly confused 914-6. Because if your intentions are good, everything is rainbows and unicorns. No worries.
No. It's still illegal VIN tampering. Only the fraud for sale charge may be dropped.
Why don't we name our children Cane?
What is in a name?
Would a rose by any other name smell less sweet?
Posted by: Whitney Mic Aug 27 2016, 01:42 AM
Why don't we name our children Cane?
What is in a name?
Would a rose by any other name smell less sweet?
No, but BS has an easily identifiable aroma...
You chose the name "SoCalStuttgart."
In retrospect, it looks like you were planning this all along. I think I read somewhere in your Zombie thread that you were so proud of your work you felt that no one would know the car was damaged before you started.
That sounds to me the same sort of thing one might hear from a painter that takes the time to mix pigments and fake period artworks.
The wall of text you left tonight is simple justification and a feeble attempt to avoid responsibility for what you have done. You finally figured out that someone had caught on to your crap, and are trying to do damage control. Too late, way too late.
I am sure that all the time you were sitting at the tables in Vegas you were heartbroken at the thought of gambling with all the money you just made from the car you "never planned to sell."
Sorry man, but if it looks like
and smells like , I don't have to taste it to know it's the real thing...You are a fraud. You ripped someone off, and profited. All of a sudden, people are talking about it, and you are scared as hell. You should be.
If you really were an honorable person, you would have told the buyer what you had done before you sold the car.
I imagine there would also have been a way to resurrect your Zombie /6 legally. If not, you should have let the car be destroyed.
AFAIK, the only way to show any shred of honor in this situation is to just give it up. Don't know where you should turn yourself in, but you should face up to your fraud.
You have been found out. People will continue to talk about it. Try to run, try to hide, your bad Carma will catch you. Plenty of popcorn will be eaten then, as we all wait and watch you try to tell the judge the same sort of lame excuse that didn't fly here.
(edit)
I just went back and re-read that wall of text again. You blame everyone else involved: your friend (or ex-girlfriend), who "made" you sell the car (and take half of the money); The person you sold the car to who didn't quite get that the car was a forgery, and sold it on as the real thing; the "non-car guys" who don't know the difference between a real 914-6 and a 914-4, und so weite.
According to you, everyone but the person that actually built the car is responsible for this mess.
It must be really hard for you as the victim of this horrendous character abuse, when everyone else thinks you are full of shit.
I feel so sorry for you.
(/edit)
-- Whit
Posted by: billh1963 Aug 27 2016, 05:09 AM
The "intention defense".... Seems popular these days
Once again you state, "it's a real 914-6". Uh..no it's not
Posted by: socalstuttgart Aug 27 2016, 06:53 AM
How interesting. Tell me more about me
Posted by: socalstuttgart Aug 27 2016, 07:16 AM
beg to ask, why even bother with the #s? What do you estimate the premium was rather than just the value of a well done coversion? That you lay the story ALL out there, publicly, is both amazing and mystifying. Bold!Honestly I have always wanted a 914 that said 914 in the vin. The 914 vin makes more sense to me. The fact that Porsche used his name on the car but most cars had very simple nomenclatures. I like things that make sense and the VW vin is too much like a bar code or a product number. IMHO the 914 needed to be the best of everything. I wish I could make one even better but I doubt that's possible for me.
A wise man told me that if I want a better Porsche I need to start with a better Porsche which is why I now own a 996 Turbo and a Caynne turbo. Both are fast and handle better than the zombie. They can both safely drive off road and over 160 mph which the zombie could not. She starts to float. The real jem was my 930! She was super comfortable and could go anywhere. I really couldn't get stuck in traffic though.
If I wanted to hide my work I wouldn't show my work. I probably get an A- at best for the zombie. Selling her was even lower but hey, I do my best. If people who I believe to be fraud came to me with my offer I'd take it. If someone is selling the zombie for more than she's worth than call him out! Or if it's you! And she's ruined, please don't show me. You'll break my poor heart all over! Please don't show me a neglected version of my work. Just have the state police crush her and hopefully insurance will understand. My 930 was very comfortable but my zombie took me more places. People love the zombie! She was one of a kind in the most loveable ways. You can't put a price tag on that.
Peace. I'm getting coffee and I have some driving to do ALL! Perhaps I'll think about this as I finish my cars. You can't please everyone but you can follow your bliss.
By the way. If I wanted another 914 after her I could have bought a real 914 but, why didn't I? Why did I instead use that money to find my woman! I have retired 914's. Once you build your dream car, a balance of all the perfect parts of your past and you think about your future while driving....well, what does one have left to do except find love in the form of your BETTER half?
No more looking through bullshit for peanuts. I've got a beautiful women in my bed waiting for me. Coffee is on and I don't like to start my days too late. The early bird gets the worm and all that jazz!
Peace!
Dean Clark
SoCal Stuttgart, owner and founder, established 1988.
Posted by: Krieger Aug 27 2016, 08:03 AM
Stunning
Posted by: billh1963 Aug 27 2016, 09:27 AM
This gets better and better....
Like every epic meltdown this one follows the same path.
This needs to be saved...
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 27 2016, 09:35 AM
This guy is delusional... Knowingly and willingly builds a fraudulent car... Sells it as a genuine car... Takes no responsibility... Thinks is all goes away if he buys it back... 
Posted by: Whitney Mic Aug 27 2016, 10:04 AM
How interesting. Tell me more about me
Two things:
One, there is no need for anyone to tell you more about yourself. You have done an outstanding job on your own. Thanks to you, we now know you are a whiney little slimer squid who can't (or won't) take responsibility for the mess you created.
Two, this thread is now to inform responsible 914World members that there is a fraudster out there, and we should be wary of you, and of others that pull the same kind of BS as you have done. You chose to post here defending yourself, and were called out for the ethical shortcomings of your answer.
We aren't here to tell you about yourself, we are here to tell others about you.
Since you asked however:
Up thread, I posted that I thought you might be some sort of
. I hedged that by saying that I didn't know you, and so I might have been wrong. Your defensive responses here have done one thing. There is no longer any doubt as to whether or not you , it is almost painfully obvious to the rest here that you do.Thanks for clearing that up.
--Whit
Posted by: VegasRacer Aug 27 2016, 11:31 AM
Great, first reply is gonna completely derail this thread. Sigh ...
Sir Andy called it.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 27 2016, 12:03 PM
beg to ask, why even bother with the #s? What do you estimate the premium was rather than just the value of a well done coversion? That you lay the story ALL out there, publicly, is both amazing and mystifying. Bold!Honestly I have always wanted a 914 that said 914 in the vin. The 914 vin makes more sense to me. The fact that Porsche used his name on the car but most cars had very simple nomenclatures. I like things that make sense and the VW vin is too much like a bar code or a product number. IMHO the 914 needed to be the best of everything. I wish I could make one even better but I doubt that's possible for me.
A wise man told me that if I want a better Porsche I need to start with a better Porsche which is why I now own a 996 Turbo and a Caynne turbo. Both are fast and handle better than the zombie. They can both safely drive off road and over 160 mph which the zombie could not. She starts to float. The real jem was my 930! She was super comfortable and could go anywhere. I really couldn't get stuck in traffic though.
If I wanted to hide my work I wouldn't show my work. I probably get an A- at best for the zombie. Selling her was even lower but hey, I do my best. If people who I believe to be fraud came to me with my offer I'd take it. If someone is selling the zombie for more than she's worth than call him out! Or if it's you! And she's ruined, please don't show me. You'll break my poor heart all over! Please don't show me a neglected version of my work. Just have the state police crush her and hopefully insurance will understand. My 930 was very comfortable but my zombie took me more places. People love the zombie! She was one of a kind in the most loveable ways. You can't put a price tag on that.
Peace. I'm getting coffee and I have some driving to do ALL! Perhaps I'll think about this as I finish my cars. You can't please everyone but you can follow your bliss.
By the way. If I wanted another 914 after her I could have bought a real 914 but, why didn't I? Why did I instead use that money to find my woman! I have retired 914's. Once you build your dream car, a balance of all the perfect parts of your past and you think about your future while driving....well, what does one have left to do except find love in the form of your BETTER half?
No more looking through bullshit for peanuts. I've got a beautiful women in my bed waiting for me. Coffee is on and I don't like to start my days too late. The early bird gets the worm and all that jazz!
Peace!
Dean Clark
SoCal Stuttgart, owner and founder, established 1988.
Please don't stop. This is a fascinating narrative.
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 27 2016, 12:31 PM
Hey Guys,
First off, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, I did combine two cars and yes I was discrete about it because I was told when I went to licenses it that the CHP was going to crush it after 2 1/2 years of rust work!!! I was terrified. Not of going to jail but because I was afraid my dream car was going to get destroyed and I'd never get to use it. Thank you SirAndy for pointing out that I never intended to sell it! I didn't sell it because I wanted to, I honestly didn't even need them money!! I sold it because my friend did! We split the money and when I gave that friend half I went to Las Vegas with the other half and blew it all because I wanted that car since I was 14 years old and bought my first 1975 914 2.0 (WITH PAPERROUTE MONEY)! At the time I felt like my life was over (2014)!! In the end my friend felt so bad she gave me her half back but it was too late! So, yes I built a 1971 914-6 back from the dead (hence the zombie 914-6 nomenclature and insiders all new this) and yes I sold it for 36k but I also had it advertised for 75k and took it down! I honestly got more calls on it then and I don't care that I could have sold it for 75 and I really feel bad that the new owner didn't fully get 914's!! I didn't want to sell it (I'll yell it from the mountain tops!).
All that being said, if I could find the new owner and I could buy it back I would for the exact same amount! I bought it because I wouldn't take a 911T engine from a 914-6, especially a '71, I would ONLY do it to a junked 914-6 which was what I did. Sue me, jail me, hang me from my neck until dead, but I would have done it ALL again, but I did my best to sell it honestly without getting it crushed!!! I truly would't have sold it, though, since I got the money back and bought a piece of junk car which I promptly returned after using for a few miles because it was too expensive and I couldn't trade it for another porsche because the porsche seller quickly found out it was in a wreck. I still owe on that wrecked (it was showing an insurance payout on the carfaxand from before I bought it and I got it at a non-porsche factory dealership as a certified pre-owned (non porsche). Not that the car looked or drove wrecked but still THAT wasn't cool, it became impossible to sell after that and my rule is never to buy a car you can't sell for at least what you pay and to sell a car that was my dream to own since I was old enough to drive and was the apex of my first car in HS; no money was enough tbh! 20k in fact I still owe. If I hadn't sold the 914 I wouldn't owe that 20k! Holy cow, but people warned me not to restore that car...which I did anyway since I love 914's and people remember things like this, obviously! Which is why I posted pics and told the story when I finished it just in case I ever did have to sell it (can anyone remember me asking if it was possible to change that last vin? if so, you know what I chose). So people wouldn't do what some are calling for jail for. Yes, people do awful things for profit but I'm happy to say I'm not one of them! If I am, jail me, I didn't mean to be, that's honest! I simply built a car that I couldn't afford any other way...it cost me about 36k to build and exactly one good friendship which is the biggest crime. I miss my car and my friend very much.
Once I sold a 914 conversion with a 3.2 and the new owner wanted me to reseal the engine about a year or so later (maybe even six months). I told him no and that was because I had let the Porsche dealership inspect it for like 2 days and he asked for new seat belts, which it promptly installed myself! In fact! I wish I could have installed George's awesome retractible seat belts like I had in the Zombie! Those made me feel safer as did Eric's rebuilt (excuse me, restored) 911 Carrera brakes! yes, I learned and yes my cars have never ever been perfect (or safe, buy a saturn if you want that) but they are very fun! 914's have never been anything to me but fun! I make money sometimes (probably not much if any) but I enjoy them for what they are! Reliable and fast. I am 40 guys, not a kid, not a price gouger, but I am passionate about my hobbies and man I am lucky to have them.
I don't want money but unfortunately these cars are sometimes expensive. The great thing is I generally break even and that is truly economical! The reason I hardly ever post is because of how catty some of you are (human beings like to gossip) and yes, I like to do my stuff in peace. I don't enjoy talking about Porsches or wearing Porsche apparel and if you care to know more about me I am currently sitting in my black 996 turbo on my way up north on hwy 101 along the pacific coast! My life is great one moment and hard the next but truly Porsche's have been my joy! I like to tinker with them and each time I do something with them I learn more about life which is a win win! Kind of like when you sell a porsche and break even! Win win!
If you want to throw me in jail go ahead! I would love to die for my cause and that would be a fitting end of my life! How great to show the world how car guys die. Not in a car accident after all (like my younger days I was warned) but to rot in jail because non car guys don't know how to tell the difference between a factory 6 and 4 and why should they be even worth any different? They're both wonderful and I enjoy and restore both! I honestly didn't even change all of the vin's. When the new owner asked me about the wheel well I told him that I used a 1971 chassis and he got that vin too since the seller of the original six sold that to me. I don't mind, he didn't complain, not to me. If he wanted to end it right then and there he could have but nope. So, I will make this offer once. If whoever had the car still wants 36,000 for it and it's been well cared for I will buy it back. I will work it for it and I will even pay that much if it's not been serviced, however, if it's been destroyed in anyway I will be pissed! The last two cars (914's that is) I sold have been changed too much and I never wanted them back. The Zombie needed to be serviced and it needed a few cosmetic things and that's it (to my knowledge if anything else I'll take care of that too, obviously, but not anything like new paint or changed body). The transmission had just been completely gone through. Other than the engine having some miles on it it ran great and the brakes were still wonderful (thanks Eric).
I'll answer anymore questions if you'd like on here and my offer is true! I honestly just told my girlfriend about 2 weeks ago that I thought it may be up for sale soon and if so I want to buy it back...seriously I just today found this thread since a friend tipped me off.
Okay...I'm not even going to proof read this because my girl is getting bored and is falling asleep at this gas station/hardwarestore parking lot! lol. Yes, it's a real 914-6, all the parts will tell you that the INTRINSIC value was priced as such and they are rare parts to be sure, but the chassis is from the same year 1.7 liter. I removed the dash and as much of the non important parts as possible as a learning experiment. It's like saying Ghostbusters and Want a New Drug are the same songs or that one copied the other...no, different songs but similar engineering. They probably reverse engineered the same song at the same time. lol. Okay...I'm not defending my work, it's not the best, I'm just telling you what happened and offering to buy it back at the same price. That's more than fair, that's a win/win/win! But if I need to spend some time in jail for being a putts, so be it!!!
Good day!
PS. 914's are all VW's anyway ;-) (irony)
I said GOOD DAY!!!
Posted by: billh1963 Aug 27 2016, 01:38 PM
Believe this to be the same guy...
https://www.yelp.com/biz/socal-stuttgart-valencia
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1058338660866545.1073741827.114834428550311&type=3
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 27 2016, 01:38 PM
So you have, or had a 930, a 996 Turbo and a Cayenne turbo.
When you bought them did you check the identification of each one ?
If you found some issue with any of the VIN items on any of those cars would you have
gone forward with the purchase ?
If the seller convinced you he was an avid Porsche fan (selling his dream car !) you would have ignored a tampered VIN and paid him anyway ?
Posted by: mepstein Aug 27 2016, 02:11 PM
Face it, he's the same lying scumbag now as he was 5 years ago when I asked him if the gold car was the same car as the silver car. Guys like him will make up any story to justify their actions, usually many stories, and they don't care what laws they break. It's all about them.
Posted by: 914_teener Aug 27 2016, 03:48 PM
Hey Guys,
First off, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, I did combine two cars and yes I was discrete about it because I was told when I went to licenses it that the CHP was going to crush it after 2 1/2 years of rust work!!! I was terrified. Not of going to jail but because I was afraid my dream car was going to get destroyed and I'd never get to use it. Thank you SirAndy for pointing out that I never intended to sell it! I didn't sell it because I wanted to, I honestly didn't even need them money!! I sold it because my friend did! We split the money and when I gave that friend half I went to Las Vegas with the other half and blew it all because I wanted that car since I was 14 years old and bought my first 1975 914 2.0 (WITH PAPERROUTE MONEY)! At the time I felt like my life was over (2014)!! In the end my friend felt so bad she gave me her half back but it was too late! So, yes I built a 1971 914-6 back from the dead (hence the zombie 914-6 nomenclature and insiders all new this) and yes I sold it for 36k but I also had it advertised for 75k and took it down! I honestly got more calls on it then and I don't care that I could have sold it for 75 and I really feel bad that the new owner didn't fully get 914's!! I didn't want to sell it (I'll yell it from the mountain tops!).
All that being said, if I could find the new owner and I could buy it back I would for the exact same amount! I bought it because I wouldn't take a 911T engine from a 914-6, especially a '71, I would ONLY do it to a junked 914-6 which was what I did. Sue me, jail me, hang me from my neck until dead, but I would have done it ALL again, but I did my best to sell it honestly without getting it crushed!!! I truly would't have sold it, though, since I got the money back and bought a piece of junk car which I promptly returned after using for a few miles because it was too expensive and I couldn't trade it for another porsche because the porsche seller quickly found out it was in a wreck. I still owe on that wrecked (it was showing an insurance payout on the carfaxand from before I bought it and I got it at a non-porsche factory dealership as a certified pre-owned (non porsche). Not that the car looked or drove wrecked but still THAT wasn't cool, it became impossible to sell after that and my rule is never to buy a car you can't sell for at least what you pay and to sell a car that was my dream to own since I was old enough to drive and was the apex of my first car in HS; no money was enough tbh! 20k in fact I still owe. If I hadn't sold the 914 I wouldn't owe that 20k! Holy cow, but people warned me not to restore that car...which I did anyway since I love 914's and people remember things like this, obviously! Which is why I posted pics and told the story when I finished it just in case I ever did have to sell it (can anyone remember me asking if it was possible to change that last vin? if so, you know what I chose). So people wouldn't do what some are calling for jail for. Yes, people do awful things for profit but I'm happy to say I'm not one of them! If I am, jail me, I didn't mean to be, that's honest! I simply built a car that I couldn't afford any other way...it cost me about 36k to build and exactly one good friendship which is the biggest crime. I miss my car and my friend very much.
Once I sold a 914 conversion with a 3.2 and the new owner wanted me to reseal the engine about a year or so later (maybe even six months). I told him no and that was because I had let the Porsche dealership inspect it for like 2 days and he asked for new seat belts, which it promptly installed myself! In fact! I wish I could have installed George's awesome retractible seat belts like I had in the Zombie! Those made me feel safer as did Eric's rebuilt (excuse me, restored) 911 Carrera brakes! yes, I learned and yes my cars have never ever been perfect (or safe, buy a saturn if you want that) but they are very fun! 914's have never been anything to me but fun! I make money sometimes (probably not much if any) but I enjoy them for what they are! Reliable and fast. I am 40 guys, not a kid, not a price gouger, but I am passionate about my hobbies and man I am lucky to have them.
I don't want money but unfortunately these cars are sometimes expensive. The great thing is I generally break even and that is truly economical! The reason I hardly ever post is because of how catty some of you are (human beings like to gossip) and yes, I like to do my stuff in peace. I don't enjoy talking about Porsches or wearing Porsche apparel and if you care to know more about me I am currently sitting in my black 996 turbo on my way up north on hwy 101 along the pacific coast! My life is great one moment and hard the next but truly Porsche's have been my joy! I like to tinker with them and each time I do something with them I learn more about life which is a win win! Kind of like when you sell a porsche and break even! Win win!
If you want to throw me in jail go ahead! I would love to die for my cause and that would be a fitting end of my life! How great to show the world how car guys die. Not in a car accident after all (like my younger days I was warned) but to rot in jail because non car guys don't know how to tell the difference between a factory 6 and 4 and why should they be even worth any different? They're both wonderful and I enjoy and restore both! I honestly didn't even change all of the vin's. When the new owner asked me about the wheel well I told him that I used a 1971 chassis and he got that vin too since the seller of the original six sold that to me. I don't mind, he didn't complain, not to me. If he wanted to end it right then and there he could have but nope. So, I will make this offer once. If whoever had the car still wants 36,000 for it and it's been well cared for I will buy it back. I will work it for it and I will even pay that much if it's not been serviced, however, if it's been destroyed in anyway I will be pissed! The last two cars (914's that is) I sold have been changed too much and I never wanted them back. The Zombie needed to be serviced and it needed a few cosmetic things and that's it (to my knowledge if anything else I'll take care of that too, obviously, but not anything like new paint or changed body). The transmission had just been completely gone through. Other than the engine having some miles on it it ran great and the brakes were still wonderful (thanks Eric).
I'll answer anymore questions if you'd like on here and my offer is true! I honestly just told my girlfriend about 2 weeks ago that I thought it may be up for sale soon and if so I want to buy it back...seriously I just today found this thread since a friend tipped me off.
Okay...I'm not even going to proof read this because my girl is getting bored and is falling asleep at this gas station/hardwarestore parking lot! lol. Yes, it's a real 914-6, all the parts will tell you that the INTRINSIC value was priced as such and they are rare parts to be sure, but the chassis is from the same year 1.7 liter. I removed the dash and as much of the non important parts as possible as a learning experiment. It's like saying Ghostbusters and Want a New Drug are the same songs or that one copied the other...no, different songs but similar engineering. They probably reverse engineered the same song at the same time. lol. Okay...I'm not defending my work, it's not the best, I'm just telling you what happened and offering to buy it back at the same price. That's more than fair, that's a win/win/win! But if I need to spend some time in jail for being a putts, so be it!!!
Good day!
PS. 914's are all VW's anyway ;-) (irony)
I said GOOD DAY!!!
Moral realativisim......if true and you are the seller.
That's pure BS and wrong. Don.t care if you own 100 cars. You wiil be judged in the end.
Posted by: Gunn1 Aug 27 2016, 05:09 PM
Bad Deal.
There should be some sort of legal recourse to the buyer against the seller. There should also be a visit from law enforcement/DMV to the seller of the fraudulent -6.
For further mention, when this kind of money is being exchanged for a specific vintage collector automobile and its completeness and correctness is paramount to its "Value" the car should have a thorough professional PPI.
Caveat emptor
JMO
Posted by: Whitney Mic Aug 27 2016, 11:55 PM
A tidbit from his other thread, post #53, as KELTY360 noted earlier (stole the quote marks from his earlier post here):
I have done several 914-6 conversions now and they do take time, too much money, and patient friends and family. The thing about this Zombie car, or I should say what makes it a Zombie, is that 15% is original and 85% is fabrication! Since there was so little hope of salvaging the original car I felt like it gave me a licence to really go all out creating a hot rod! I wanted it to look like something the factory would have built but more of it was built in my garage than was built in Stuttgart, hence SoCal Stuttgart!
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=115069&st=52
Busted!! 
The judge says: Guilty!
-- Whit
Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 28 2016, 12:50 AM
A tidbit from his other thread, post #53, as KELTY360 noted earlier (stole the quote marks from his earlier post here):
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=115069&st=52
Busted!! The judge says: Guilty!
-- Whit
Double edged sword for the new owner. Someone should tell him the truth but then he has to deal with the reality of owning a VIN swap.
Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 28 2016, 07:23 AM
Ignorance is bliss. At times you don't want to know the answer.
Posted by: socalstuttgart Aug 28 2016, 11:40 PM
They say not to testify against yourself but what is the what? My crime is selling it. Period. Yes, I should have kept it and retired it. I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry we have to fight over VINS. I won't swap the vins and yes I do check my VINs carefully and made a mistake once buying a car that I wish I hadn't. If I could I'd keep all my cars from now on and I will display them. I'm kind of sick of the hotrod game. I never wanted show cars but now I know that's probably where they belong...at shows. The other crime is it was too fast and dangerous. It could not stay on the track and though I wanted to take it to the big track it had too much power and not enough tire. We kept trying to tame it but truly there is a reason the 300hp 908 powered cars we not built for the public! Too much for mid engined cars...they spin like a cork screw. I have to go for now but let's keep looking for a GOOD solution. I do want to buy it back or compensate or do time or ... ? Whatever will solve this going forward. Yes, risky of me but I know jail is most dangerous for all. Perhaps I can find the 914-4 vins again. The records are here or with the new owner...both actually. I believe he has some info. I'll be back.
Posted by: Coondog Aug 29 2016, 04:49 AM
Posted by: billh1963 Aug 29 2016, 06:10 AM
They say not to testify against yourself but what is the what? My crime is selling it. Period. Yes, I should have kept it and retired it. I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry we have to fight over VINS. I won't swap the vins and yes I do check my VINs carefully and made a mistake once buying a car that I wish I hadn't. If I could I'd keep all my cars from now on and I will display them. I'm kind of sick of the hotrod game. I never wanted show cars but now I know that's probably where they belong...at shows. The other crime is it was too fast and dangerous. It could not stay on the track and though I wanted to take it to the big track it had too much power and not enough tire. We kept trying to tame it but truly there is a reason the 300hp 908 powered cars we not built for the public! Too much for mid engined cars...they spin like a cork screw. I have to go for now but let's keep looking for a GOOD solution. I do want to buy it back or compensate or do time or ... ? Whatever will solve this going forward. Yes, risky of me but I know jail is most dangerous for all. Perhaps I can find the 914-4 vins again. The records are here or with the new owner...both actually. I believe he has some info. I'll be back.
I believe you would be better served to just stop posting.
Posted by: dlee6204 Aug 29 2016, 06:16 AM
They say not to testify against yourself but what is the what? My crime is selling it. Period. Yes, I should have kept it and retired it. I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry we have to fight over VINS. I won't swap the vins and yes I do check my VINs carefully and made a mistake once buying a car that I wish I hadn't. If I could I'd keep all my cars from now on and I will display them. I'm kind of sick of the hotrod game. I never wanted show cars but now I know that's probably where they belong...at shows. The other crime is it was too fast and dangerous. It could not stay on the track and though I wanted to take it to the big track it had too much power and not enough tire. We kept trying to tame it but truly there is a reason the 300hp 908 powered cars we not built for the public! Too much for mid engined cars...they spin like a cork screw. I have to go for now but let's keep looking for a GOOD solution. I do want to buy it back or compensate or do time or ... ? Whatever will solve this going forward. Yes, risky of me but I know jail is most dangerous for all. Perhaps I can find the 914-4 vins again. The records are here or with the new owner...both actually. I believe he has some info. I'll be back.
I believe you would be better served to just stop posting.
No he should definitely keep going. This is great stuff. Sickening but great.
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Aug 29 2016, 06:56 AM
They say not to testify against yourself but what is the what? My crime is selling it. Period. Yes, I should have kept it and retired it. I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry we have to fight over VINS. I won't swap the vins and yes I do check my VINs carefully and made a mistake once buying a car that I wish I hadn't. If I could I'd keep all my cars from now on and I will display them. I'm kind of sick of the hotrod game. I never wanted show cars but now I know that's probably where they belong...at shows. The other crime is it was too fast and dangerous. It could not stay on the track and though I wanted to take it to the big track it had too much power and not enough tire. We kept trying to tame it but truly there is a reason the 300hp 908 powered cars we not built for the public! Too much for mid engined cars...they spin like a cork screw. I have to go for now but let's keep looking for a GOOD solution. I do want to buy it back or compensate or do time or ... ? Whatever will solve this going forward. Yes, risky of me but I know jail is most dangerous for all. Perhaps I can find the 914-4 vins again. The records are here or with the new owner...both actually. I believe he has some info. I'll be back.
Really? What don't you get that VIN swapping is illegal in the USA. The car is a nice build, really like it, but why swap the VIN from the /6 if for no other reason then to commit fraud when you sold it. Not cool.
Posted by: mepstein Aug 29 2016, 07:06 AM
They say not to testify against yourself but what is the what? My crime is selling it. Period. Yes, I should have kept it and retired it. I'm sorry guys. I'm sorry we have to fight over VINS. I won't swap the vins and yes I do check my VINs carefully and made a mistake once buying a car that I wish I hadn't. If I could I'd keep all my cars from now on and I will display them. I'm kind of sick of the hotrod game. I never wanted show cars but now I know that's probably where they belong...at shows. The other crime is it was too fast and dangerous. It could not stay on the track and though I wanted to take it to the big track it had too much power and not enough tire. We kept trying to tame it but truly there is a reason the 300hp 908 powered cars we not built for the public! Too much for mid engined cars...they spin like a cork screw. I have to go for now but let's keep looking for a GOOD solution. I do want to buy it back or compensate or do time or ... ? Whatever will solve this going forward. Yes, risky of me but I know jail is most dangerous for all. Perhaps I can find the 914-4 vins again. The records are here or with the new owner...both actually. I believe he has some info. I'll be back.
Actually, your crime was swapping the vin. Then selling a vin swapped car. I'm not surprised you can't understand that what you did is a crime. Still, no matter how much you try to rationalize it with a drug fueled rant. Your reputation is shit.
Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 29 2016, 09:44 AM
Ouch!
Posted by: Scott S Aug 31 2016, 02:07 PM
SoCal -
A few years back I witnessed what happens to the seller of a car that is considered prominent or rare that ends up being a fake. The car in question sold 4 times over the span of 10 years until the fraud was uncovered. All four of the previous owners sued the builder - it was ugly.
With the way values are rising on the real sixes, you may want to think about rectifying the situation very quickly.
Just my $.02
Posted by: blackmoon Aug 31 2016, 03:25 PM
all good stories have an end, god bad or indifferent, this one seems to be very bad
Posted by: porschetub Sep 3 2016, 09:00 PM
Face it, he's the same lying scumbag now as he was 5 years ago when I asked him if the gold car was the same car as the silver car. Guys like him will make up any story to justify their actions, usually many stories, and they don't care what laws they break. It's all about them.
Top marks to you for sure you called him out twice on his build thread and got no answers then he went to ground,I had some funny thoughts about the poor (or lack) of early pics of the car he started with,then it reappears as a silver one ...call me a bit dumb but I had no idea someone would be brave enough to put this on the worldwide stage so to speak.
Heh not many people won't document the full build of a -6 unless they had something to hide..right.
Ban this spoilt Cali rich kid,he talks shit and conducts his life in a very similar way,he makes me
.Maybe he needs jail time and a good
to get his miserable head out of his ass.Karma will catch up on you ...trust me on that.
Rant over.
Posted by: Whitney Mic Sep 3 2016, 10:55 PM
I was just re-reading the thread.
There is something else the SocialStutterer doesn't seem to understand yet. He keeps offering to buy back the car at his selling price. If the car sold for $75,000 in the next deal and he wants to make good, he would have to refund the $35,000 for the first deal, and buy the car back for $75,000.
He is on the hook for the full purchase price every time this car sells.
This could become very expensive if the car sells again. If the guy he sold to has sold the car for the above price, he already owes over $100,000 ... and he thought building the car was expensive!
Better yet, his repeated attempts to defend his actions here have given him ample rope to 
himself.
Just about the time I was going to post a jpg of Porky Pig saying "That's all, Folks," I realize that this one isn't over yet. If that car sells a few more times, (and it might, if it has more power than the new owner can deal with), this could end up with lawsuits against him for several millions of dollars.
He is posting here instead of going to the buyer of his car, the police, or HIRING AN ATTORNEY to address what he's done, like he hopes this will all just go away if only he can explain it right. The longer he waits, the more it will cost him in time and money.
And we get to (or have to) watch the whole soap opera play out in a super-slow-motion, frame by frame, High-Definition, real time example of how to crash your "914-6" after you no longer own the car...
Odds are, it will be an entertaining show, once the ![hitfan[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/hitfan[1].gif)
. I can barely contain my excitement waiting for his next scene.
-- Whit
Posted by: PancakePorsche Sep 21 2016, 11:38 PM
Just read this entire post. One heck of a ride that left me exhausted ! Kinda a buyer beware on steroids. This is now a well documented case and it will not just go away as some hope it will. Lord have mercy.
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