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Posted by: carcus Sep 5 2016, 11:02 PM

I get some rear window rattle, the glass on the back wall under the seat back pad. I was thinking of putting something behind the seat back pad near the lower part of the window to quiet it down. When I put the seats in I put silicone under the lower part of the rear window and I put a new seal on the outer part near the rear trunk where it meets the rear window. I still have a little glass on metal sound. Granted, our roads suck here but looking for options. Not taking the rear seat or back pad out again.

Posted by: Darren C Sep 6 2016, 01:27 AM

You kinda know the answer to your own question....

Seats out
Trim out
Glass out

Clean up

New butyl seal

Refit glass

Trim & seats back in

It shouldn't take more than an afternoon.

Anything else is futile.


Posted by: shoguneagle Sep 6 2016, 05:26 AM

Agree and the glass sets on a couple of rubber pad located on the bottom of the window

Posted by: Garold Shaffer Sep 6 2016, 06:49 AM

QUOTE(Darren C @ Sep 6 2016, 02:27 AM) *

You kinda know the answer to your own question....

Seats out
Trim out
Glass out

Clean up

New butyl seal

Refit glass

Trim & seats back in

It shouldn't take more than an afternoon.

Anything else is futile.


agree.gif It can be a PITA but when you have a free afternoon just do the above, you will be happy that you did. Besides a rattling rear window means water can now get it and start to collect at the lower firewall / floor pan.

Posted by: carr914 Sep 6 2016, 08:25 AM

QUOTE(Garold Shaffer @ Sep 6 2016, 08:49 AM) *

QUOTE(Darren C @ Sep 6 2016, 02:27 AM) *

You kinda know the answer to your own question....

Seats out
Trim out
Glass out

Clean up

New butyl seal

Refit glass

Trim & seats back in

It shouldn't take more than an afternoon.

Anything else is futile.


agree.gif It can be a PITA but when you have a free afternoon just do the above, you will be happy that you did. Besides a rattling rear window means water can now get it and start to collect at the lower firewall / floor pan.


I disagree - this is a simple job. I can have the entire interior out of a 914 in about 10 minutes. If someone can't take the seats & backpad out, they shouldn't have a car they play with.

Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 6 2016, 10:16 AM

Got the parts you need here -

https://shop.914rubber.com/rear-window-reseal-kit-914RWK.htm?categoryId=-1


Both rubber strips and the butyl $20

Posted by: davesprinkle Aug 28 2018, 07:50 PM

Silicone doesn't belong anywhere on a car. Ever.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 28 2018, 08:18 PM

Seats out, belts out, roll bar pads off, and back pad out, glass out, clean everything, easy. I just did this recently.

Do it right.

Do it once.

You will have peace of mind and a solid roll bar window.

It's a bit of a PITA, but worth it.

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 28 2018, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Sep 6 2016, 09:16 AM) *

Got the parts you need here -
http://shop.914rubber.com/searchquick-submit.sc?keywords=a+pillar


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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3348

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PS: Yes, i know this is from 2016 ...

Posted by: PanelBilly Aug 28 2018, 10:16 PM

Fold a book of matches and stick them between the glass and the frame. My car had this fix for so many years, the color faded on the matchbook.

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Aug 28 2018, 10:29 PM

QUOTE(Darren C @ Sep 6 2016, 12:27 AM) *

You kinda know the answer to your own question....

Seats out
Trim out
Glass out

Clean up

New butyl seal

Refit glass

Trim & seats back in

It shouldn't take more than an afternoon.

Anything else is futile.

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Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 29 2018, 12:13 AM

Yes this is pretty easy to do. everything you need to install is here -

https://shop.914rubber.com/Engine-Deck-Lid-Seal-914EDLS.htm

For $20

However, While you are there may want to replace the engine deck lid seal that pushes against it at the outside base.


https://shop.914rubber.com/Engine-Deck-Lid-Seal-914EDLS.htm






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Posted by: thelogo Aug 29 2018, 12:54 AM

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Aug 28 2018, 09:16 PM) *

Fold a book of matches and stick them between the glass and the frame. My car had this fix for so many years, the color faded on the matchbook.




Your the man this mod is going in tomarro on my car smoke.gif

Posted by: Triaddave Aug 31 2018, 01:31 PM

It may sound lame but I had a pack of matches stuck in the window for years, worked fine and it was cheap and available.

Posted by: Triaddave Aug 31 2018, 01:32 PM

It may sound lame but I had a pack of matches stuck in the window for years, worked fine and it was cheap and available.

Posted by: Edward Blume Aug 31 2018, 01:38 PM

Dad stuck a sponge in there. Worked.

Posted by: AZBanks Aug 31 2018, 02:27 PM

QUOTE(davesprinkle @ Aug 28 2018, 06:50 PM) *

Silicone doesn't belong anywhere on a car. Ever.



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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/88/9a/e0/889ae04ec6dcbc2ff6a9f897158cb774--exhibition-poster-porsche-.jpg

Posted by: VegasRacer Aug 31 2018, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Aug 28 2018, 09:16 PM) *

Fold a book of matches and stick them between the glass and the frame. My car had this fix for so many years, the color faded on the matchbook.

Yup. biggrin.gif agree.gif

A strategically placed matchbook wedge also works to keep 8 track tapes from cross-tracking.

Posted by: thelogo Aug 31 2018, 03:43 PM

QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Aug 31 2018, 01:52 PM) *

QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Aug 28 2018, 09:16 PM) *

Fold a book of matches and stick them between the glass and the frame. My car had this fix for so many years, the color faded on the matchbook.

Yup. biggrin.gif agree.gif

A strategically placed matchbook wedge also works to keep 8 track tapes from cross-tracking.



Sorry man but 8 tracks


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Posted by: jdamiano Aug 31 2018, 07:08 PM

My car had a folded up business card keeping the raddle down when I purchased it. I think it was a divorce lawyers card. I quickly spent the couple hours and 20 or so bucks following the introductions found on this site to fix right. Not a hard job.

Posted by: Edward Blume Sep 1 2018, 06:28 AM

QUOTE(jdamiano @ Aug 31 2018, 06:08 PM) *

My car had a folded up business card keeping the raddle down when I purchased it. I think it was a divorce lawyers card. I quickly spent the couple hours and 20 or so bucks following the introductions found on this site to fix right. Not a hard job.

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Its not a hard job at all.

The only sticky part is.... well, the sticky part....

Posted by: mepstein Sep 1 2018, 06:36 AM

Do you have to remove the top targa bar pad. If so, that’s the only pita part about it.

Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 2 2018, 04:54 AM

I've done it without/

Posted by: mepstein Sep 2 2018, 05:36 AM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Sep 2 2018, 06:54 AM) *

I've done it without/

Good to know. All the other stuff takes minutes to remove.

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 2 2018, 08:21 AM

The answer to the question the OP asked:

(first I’ll paraphrase the question) can I do the job but skip a bunch of important steps?

Yes. You can get rid of the rattle without taking out the interior. Sell the car. blink.gif

Posted by: mepstein Sep 2 2018, 09:55 AM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 2 2018, 10:21 AM) *

The answer to the question the OP asked:

(first I’ll paraphrase the question) can I do the job but skip a bunch of important steps?

Yes. You can get rid of the rattle without taking out the interior. Sell the car. blink.gif

Seats come out in 10 seconds. add a minute or 2 if its a fixed passenger seat.Unscrew the engine lid pull knob down by the ebrake cable. Backpad is 4 screws after you pop out the back pad light. Upper belts are 1 bolt each then 1 screw each for side bolters(2 on the driver side for the hanger. I think it might take 10 -15 minutes total and if you haven't done it before, you will be surprised by how much junk gets trapped on the floor behind the back pad. Remember, the back pad pulls down and away from the fire wall.

Posted by: raynekat Sep 2 2018, 10:04 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 2 2018, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 2 2018, 10:21 AM) *

The answer to the question the OP asked:

(first I’ll paraphrase the question) can I do the job but skip a bunch of important steps?

Yes. You can get rid of the rattle without taking out the interior. Sell the car. blink.gif

Seats come out in 10 seconds. add a minute or 2 if its a fixed passenger seat.Unscrew the engine lid pull knob down by the ebrake cable. Backpad is 4 screws after you pop out the back pad light. Upper belts are 1 bolt each then 1 screw each for side bolters(2 on the driver side for the hanger. I think it might take 10 -15 minutes total and if you haven't done it before, you will be surprised by how much junk gets trapped on the floor behind the back pad. Remember, the back pad pulls down and away from the fire wall.


Perfect explanation of the procedure....

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 2 2018, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Sep 2 2018, 01:04 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 2 2018, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 2 2018, 10:21 AM) *

The answer to the question the OP asked:

(first I’ll paraphrase the question) can I do the job but skip a bunch of important steps?

Yes. You can get rid of the rattle without taking out the interior. Sell the car. blink.gif

Seats come out in 10 seconds. add a minute or 2 if its a fixed passenger seat.Unscrew the engine lid pull knob down by the ebrake cable. Backpad is 4 screws after you pop out the back pad light. Upper belts are 1 bolt each then 1 screw each for side bolters(2 on the driver side for the hanger. I think it might take 10 -15 minutes total and if you haven't done it before, you will be surprised by how much junk gets trapped on the floor behind the back pad. Remember, the back pad pulls down and away from the fire wall.


Perfect explanation of the procedure....


Yes. I could explain the procedure too. My point is if you know and he knew, that you need to remove the interior to reseal the rear window and you go to this effort to avoid the prep work, you need to sell the car because this goes no where.

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Sep 2 2018, 07:33 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 2 2018, 08:55 AM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 2 2018, 10:21 AM) *

The answer to the question the OP asked:

(first I’ll paraphrase the question) can I do the job but skip a bunch of important steps?

Yes. You can get rid of the rattle without taking out the interior. Sell the car. blink.gif

Seats come out in 10 seconds. add a minute or 2 if its a fixed passenger seat.Unscrew the engine lid pull knob down by the ebrake cable. Backpad is 4 screws after you pop out the back pad light. Upper belts are 1 bolt each then 1 screw each for side bolters(2 on the driver side for the hanger. I think it might take 10 -15 minutes total and if you haven't done it before, you will be surprised by how much junk gets trapped on the floor behind the back pad. Remember, the back pad pulls down and away from the fire wall.

Yes, you could easily make back $2-3 in loose and grody looking change.

Posted by: gereed75 Sep 2 2018, 08:37 PM

And just maybe you could avoid being a DAPO

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