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Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 12:11 PM
QUOTE(SLITS @ Jul 16 2009, 07:04 PM)

There are no tricks ...
Remove carpets, pedal board, center console (if installed), center tunnel inspection plate and driver's seat
Pop connector at pedal loose and remove ball connector and nut.
Disconnect cable from throttle body in engine compartment and push it down thru the engine tin.
Crawl under car and pull the sheath loose from the firewall and pull cable out of tube.
push new one back thru and secure metal end on stub in firewall. You can push the sheathing back up through the engine tin.
Back in the car, fish the throttle cable end out of the center tunnel. Using a mirror, make sure it is not wrapped around the clutch cable. Put the lock nut on threaded end, screw the ball connector on and snap it on the bell crank.
Reassemble remainder of interior.
Go to engine compartment, secure sheathing to mount, pull cable and secure with barrrel connector to throttle body.
Wella .......................
Something like that anyway
Anybody want to add anything else or does this pretty much cover it?
Posted by: ThinAir Sep 12 2016, 12:16 PM
That's about it. It sounds much more complicated than it is. Mostly it's just a pain, and you have to make sure clutch and throttle cables are not wrapped around each other in the tunnel.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 12:28 PM
Work just cleaned out the back warehouse so I have some space to do this..
I should raid Dad's account and make him buy me all the crap I need to do this
Posted by: Chris914n6 Sep 12 2016, 01:28 PM
Wouldn't hurt to get a new ball connector, I popped it back on pretty easily. Also there was a bunch of thread left there if you're replacing it because it seems stretched?
Posted by: Toast Sep 12 2016, 01:50 PM
That ball connector did seem pretty loose and sloppy.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Sep 12 2016, 12:28 PM)

Wouldn't hurt to get a new ball connector, I popped it back on pretty easily. Also there was a bunch of thread left there if you're replacing it because it seems stretched?
Yeah. We tightened it up yesterday and there's more slack in it now. It is dropping at the connector up front and going under the clutch cable.
Posted by: Toast Sep 12 2016, 02:43 PM
The connector in the back that I showed you seemed the same way too.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 02:51 PM
I went back at lunch and looked a bit more.. Its getting caught on something or maybe the cable is frayed and catching the plastic tubing around it.
The pedal feels very tight, like I have to use a whole lot more force than what should be necessary.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Sep 12 2016, 04:21 PM
The cable slid easy enough when we had it disconnected, not that it couldn't be failing apart now. Could be binding at the throttle body or pivot.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 08:26 PM
Bump for edit.
Posted by: injunmort Sep 12 2016, 08:31 PM
how did the cable get anywhere near the exhaust? it comes out of the firewall and goes directly up through the shelf to be routed. if the cable is suspect, get a new one. you can tow it here but i doubt AAA would cover it.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Sep 12 2016, 08:48 PM
^^ -6 not 4
Posted by: brant Sep 12 2016, 09:04 PM
Posted by: injunmort Sep 12 2016, 09:07 PM
your point being?
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 09:20 PM
QUOTE(brant @ Sep 12 2016, 08:04 PM)

Justin. How do the pedals feel when the cable is disconnected?
(There are ways for pedal shafts to fail too)
Rule out the clutch tube too
Did you guys put the new throttle cable on the way?
I'll have to check that tomorrow.
I can hear it pulling tight right at the point where it comes in the car but can't exactly see it.
We didn't.. I've learned my lesson on this one, take the help lol.. I have a bit of a problem with that.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 12 2016, 09:56 PM
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Posted by: Toast Sep 12 2016, 11:39 PM
QUOTE(JustinMeier @ Sep 12 2016, 07:20 PM)

We didn't.. I've learned my lesson on this one, take the help lol.. I have a bit of a problem with that.
Don't beat yourself up Justin. We all learn. Call Glenn at Pelican at ext. 240 and order another throttle cable and a set of
VALVE (edited for Curt) cover gaskets. And don't be afraid to call Mike Will's.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 13 2016, 09:21 AM
QUOTE(Toast @ Sep 12 2016, 10:39 PM)

Don't beat yourself up Justin. We all learn. Call Glenn at Pelican at ext. 240 and order another throttle cable and a set of timing cover gaskets. And don't be afraid to call Mike Will's.

I'll get the gaskets, I have a brand new throttle and clutch cable (I think someone saw this coming).
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Sep 13 2016, 02:01 PM
Uh, timing cover gaskets? The timing cover is just a threaded plastic plug.
Posted by: ndfrigi Sep 13 2016, 03:21 PM
Looks like those cables are the clutch and speedo cable and not the accelerator cable. Like what mentioned above, accelerator cable is by the firewall and goes up and it should not be closer to the heat exchanger or headers.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Sep 13 2016, 03:22 PM
This is a six-cylinder engine, Curt. They may mean the cam chain housing gaskets.
--DD
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 13 2016, 03:35 PM
QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Sep 13 2016, 02:21 PM)

Looks like those cables are the clutch and speedo cable and not the accelerator cable. Like what mentioned above, accelerator cable is by the firewall and goes up and it should not be closer to the heat exchanger or headers.
I can't see under there too well.. I'm getting stands and a jack after work and diving in.
Posted by: Toast Sep 13 2016, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 13 2016, 12:01 PM)

Uh, timing cover gaskets? The timing cover is just a threaded plastic plug.
Timing cover....Valve cover. Whatever.
He knows what I ment.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 13 2016, 08:40 PM
QUOTE(Toast @ Sep 13 2016, 03:10 PM)

Timing cover....Valve cover. Whatever.
He knows what I ment.
Of course
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 13 2016, 09:33 PM
Wooohoo.. Cable out and it is most definitely bad. It takes a ton of force to pull it through.
Next step, install the new one.. Maybe tomorrow.
On a side note, our warehouse door at the office broke so I can't get it out of here till someone comes and fixes it
Posted by: ThinAir Sep 13 2016, 09:50 PM
QUOTE(JustinMeier @ Sep 13 2016, 08:33 PM)

Wooohoo.. Cable out and it is most definitely bad. It takes a ton of force to pull it through.
Next step, install the new one.. Maybe tomorrow.
Good news!
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 13 2016, 09:54 PM
Its a Slits show ...
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 13 2016, 10:15 PM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Sep 13 2016, 08:54 PM)

Its a Slits show ...
You're going to have to explain this one.
New cable is in but not adjusted yet.. Dry run says it's good to go as soon as I tighten things up. Yay, my 1st 914 repair.
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 14 2016, 01:34 AM
read these 17 pages...
: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index.php?showtopic=3354
Posted by: Kansas 914 Sep 14 2016, 07:45 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Sep 14 2016, 01:34 AM)

read these 17 pages...
: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index.php?showtopic=3354

That thread about the "Gray Ghost" is hilarious. Classic SLITS and of course you learn stuff along the way (especially since I have a 2.7 CIS in my car).
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 14 2016, 08:01 AM
QUOTE(JustinMeier @ Sep 13 2016, 02:35 PM)

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Sep 13 2016, 02:21 PM)

Looks like those cables are the clutch and speedo cable and not the accelerator cable. Like what mentioned above, accelerator cable is by the firewall and goes up and it should not be closer to the heat exchanger or headers.
I can't see under there too well.. I'm getting stands and a jack after work and diving in.
Then it begins: Welcome to the madness.

Kent
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 14 2016, 08:04 AM
QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Sep 14 2016, 12:34 AM)

read these 17 pages...
: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index.php?showtopic=3354


Ok, I get it now.. Thanks for sharing that!
Apparently he's not really gone
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 14 2016, 11:51 AM
One issue.. The new cable doesn't slip around the tube going in to the tunnel. It looks like this one is just a bit smaller than the old one, I'm sure it will eventually rub and break but I should be good for now 'till I get another one in, right?
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 15 2016, 01:51 PM
This couldn't have been the problem... Naaaaa
Posted by: Toast Sep 15 2016, 06:15 PM
QUOTE(JustinMeier @ Sep 14 2016, 07:04 AM)

QUOTE(sixnotfour @ Sep 14 2016, 12:34 AM)

read these 17 pages...
: http://z8.invisionfree.com/ClubNARP/index.php?showtopic=3354


Ok, I get it now.. Thanks for sharing that!
Apparently he's not really gone

Well, there is one of the threads for ya.

Read his blog here....
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=303&I also have a picture of "the mouse" and him driving it for the first time in the parking lot that I will post.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 15 2016, 10:51 PM
QUOTE(Toast @ Sep 15 2016, 05:15 PM)

Well, there is one of the threads for ya.

Read his blog here....
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=303&I also have a picture of "the mouse" and him driving it for the first time in the parking lot that I will post.

I was reading through that at one point.. lol
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 15 2016, 11:01 PM
So the saga continues...
I go to spin the bolt on to the engine side linkage and I'll be damned, this bolt is spinning pretty freely.. Hmm.. Yep, threads sheered off. Fuch (I've learned we use that instead of the F word to spare the children's eyes or something) now what do I do?
Oh look! Another cable! Today is my lucky day or something. One problem, no threads on the engine side of the cable to spin the connector on.
Well, there's some JB weld up front in the trunk, why not? It's a very close fit and it would hold really well.. I can order a new cable and drive this for a few days, hell I'm an expert at changing cables now!
Well, new problem.. I forgot to put the nut through 1st before the JB hardened around the connector.. Great, I can't bolt the end down now.....
New cable on order, here Tuesday I hope! Thanks Glen!
This probably should have been a blog post or something...
tldr;
I screwed up the (amazingly) 2 spare throttle cables Dad had in his car...
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 15 2016, 11:05 PM
Here's the first whoops...
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Sep 16 2016, 03:30 PM
Maybe you should let dad work on his car?
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 16 2016, 06:07 PM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 16 2016, 02:30 PM)

Maybe you should let dad work on his car?

That's a bit impossible..
Posted by: steuspeed Sep 16 2016, 06:34 PM
QUOTE(JustinMeier @ Sep 14 2016, 10:51 AM)

One issue.. The new cable doesn't slip around the tube going in to the tunnel. It looks like this one is just a bit smaller than the old one, I'm sure it will eventually rub and break but I should be good for now 'till I get another one in, right?
I just replaced mine and had the same problem ( Cofle brand). It didn't seem like it fully went on the end of the tube. I jammed it on as hard as I could. I had to un-thread the ball end to just a few threads in order for the cable to reach the throttle body. I didn't pull it out to compare parts side by side since I already had it installed. It would be nice to know if there is a aftermarket cable that fits a bit better.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 16 2016, 06:50 PM
I ordered 2 so let's see which one fits..
Terrycable B-423-067-02-TC
Porsche 914-423-067-02-OEM
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/ksearch/PEL_search_2014.cgi?command=show_part_page&please_wait=N2&make=POR&model=0978§ion=PPEDAL&page=3&bookmark=5&part_number=B-423-067-02-TC
Posted by: Whitney Mic Sep 16 2016, 07:24 PM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 16 2016, 02:30 PM)

Maybe you should let dad work on his car?
Too soon?
If you were joking, it was probably inappropriate, and it caused me a horribly guilty laugh, but I never met the guy.
From the little I have heard of him, I am guessing he'd be laughing his (all too public) ass off at that line, though.
In fact, his attitude was clearly:
(I sketched that from memory about three days after the original was burned into my eyes in the pics thread)
Sorry I missed him, he sounds a hell of a good guy. No doubt he's saying something about the lengths he had to go to finally turn his kid into a 914 mechanic.
He will be riding along with you in the curves, Justin, the GG probably has a real G in residence now. Wouldn't surprise me if each new little problem on the car is *just* beyond the complexity of the last. By the time you need to do the big stuff, you will have learned how by doing the little jobs. Listen to those little tricky ideas you will get when you're stumped in the shop; it might be him with the tip you need...
His sarcastic spirit will be with you in the shop as well, chuckling at your mistakes. Don't mourn your loss, celebrate and cherish your time together.
(Thats more than I meant to add when I started this post, but I hadn't yet added my condolences, as I never met Slits. Figure it's about time if I am commenting here)
-- Whit
Posted by: Toast Sep 17 2016, 09:01 AM
Well I guess that will give you a chance to fix the burnt wiring. 
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 17 2016, 03:24 PM
With some redneck engineering and a drill, I was able to get the door open and the car out. A couple more hours of tinkering on the jerry rigged cable length and I was set!
I'll change it out when the new one gets here next week but it looks like I'm good to go for now
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Sep 17 2016, 05:48 PM
Justin, i apologize for being inconsiderate. I had no idea your dad had passed. Mine too passed many years ago. I still miss him.
Whitney mic, i know who you are!
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 17 2016, 06:55 PM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 17 2016, 04:48 PM)

Justin, i apologize for being inconsiderate. I had no idea your dad had passed. Mine too passed many years ago. I still miss him.
Whitney mic, i know who you are!


All good, I got a good laugh out of it. At least he lives on through all his friends and apparently though me
Posted by: N_Jay Sep 17 2016, 09:07 PM
Evert time I see this thread title in the new posts list, "aren't you done yet" goes through my thoughts.
Posted by: Whitney Mic Sep 17 2016, 10:45 PM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 17 2016, 04:48 PM)

Justin, i apologize for being inconsiderate. I had no idea your dad had passed. Mine too passed many years ago. I still miss him.
Whitney mic, i know who you are!

Good for you; I'm not sure i know myself...
Apparently I am the unwilling ambassador from the Massengillian Contingency, or so i've been told. I tend to the prankster side of life, a double headed coin when we're drawing straws, if you will.
I didn't intend to cause anyone to feel hurt, I figured it was a joke (I can't speak for Justin, but think he saw it the same way), and considering what I have read and seen here, I didn't really think it was a, "So other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play..." kind of moment.
Sorry if I was the cause of any embarrassment (unless to myself).
Good to meet you!
Enough derailing the thread now, let's watch the kid work. I heard he tore up a garage door yesterday to get his car on the road
-- Whit
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 18 2016, 12:28 AM
Well sorta.. this side of the door broke and fell down. Drilled a hole and used the bit for a roller. Worked enough to get it out. Cable is a bit tight but I'll have 2 brand new ones Tues.
Posted by: porschetub Sep 18 2016, 12:41 AM
QUOTE(Whitney Mic @ Sep 17 2016, 01:24 PM)

QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 16 2016, 02:30 PM)

Maybe you should let dad work on his car?
Too soon?
If you were joking, it was probably inappropriate, and it caused me a horribly guilty laugh, but I never met the guy.
From the little I have heard of him, I am guessing he'd be laughing his (all too public) ass off at that line, though.
In fact, his attitude was clearly:
(I sketched that from memory about three days after the original was burned into my eyes in the pics thread)
Sorry I missed him, he sounds a hell of a good guy. No doubt he's saying something about the lengths he had to go to finally turn his kid into a 914 mechanic.
He will be riding along with you in the curves, Justin, the GG probably has a real G in residence now. Wouldn't surprise me if each new little problem on the car is *just* beyond the complexity of the last. By the time you need to do the big stuff, you will have learned how by doing the little jobs. Listen to those little tricky ideas you will get when you're stumped in the shop; it might be him with the tip you need...
His sarcastic spirit will be with you in the shop as well, chuckling at your mistakes. Don't mourn your loss, celebrate and cherish your time together.
(Thats more than I meant to add when I started this post, but I hadn't yet added my condolences, as I never met Slits. Figure it's about time if I am commenting here)
-- Whit
I didn't laugh at all thought that was the most rude comment anyone could make I have personally suffered the same thing myself rececently,Justin and Toast appears to brush it off,maybe they know Curt and that is his style if not he is just being a dick,don't care how clever people think they are or how many posts they have,Curt stand up explain

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Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 18 2016, 12:58 AM
Whoa there. He didn't know so there's a pass for him. Just because you're offended doesn't mean I am. I'm the king of dark and wrong jokes.
It made me laugh my ass off and I was trying hard to refrain from really awful jokes that were sure to make anyone cringe.
Posted by: porschetub Sep 18 2016, 01:49 AM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 18 2016, 11:48 AM)

Justin, i apologize for being inconsiderate. I had no idea your dad had passed. Mine too passed many years ago. I still miss him.
Whitney mic, i know who you are!

Look out Whitney or myself an old grumpy bastard is after us,really Curt that's BS EVERYONE on here knows Ron passed on,did you not read the threads and replies on here?
Posted by: Whitney Mic Sep 18 2016, 01:56 AM
QUOTE(porschetub @ Sep 17 2016, 11:41 PM)

I didn't laugh at all thought that was the most rude comment anyone could make I have personally suffered the same thing myself rececently,Justin and Toast appears to brush it off,maybe they know Curt and that is his style if not he is just being a dick,don't care how clever people think they are or how many posts they have,Curt stand up explain

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(edit) I didn't feel it was a brush off on anyone's part. I wish I'd had the chance to meet the man, and I recognize how much he meant to the community. I wasn't trying to be clever as much as to finally find a light hearted way to add my sympathy and an attempt to maybe reflect on how someone I never met touched my life in a unique way. I must have misunderstood the feeling when folks were chuckling over the actual photograph of Slits baring his ass in the picture thread celebrating his time here...
I have seen how Slits had a unique attitude and sense of humor, and hope I expressed some of that in my message to Justin when I replied to Curtis' text. If my posting a sketch of *someone* dropping trou, or if anything else I posted here was offensive to either Toast or Justin, I apologize directly to both of you here and now. I guess if it pissed anyone else off, I can include them in my attempt at making amends.
I lost my mom last June, so I think I know the pain, and I also know that humor can be healing to folks that are grieving a loss. Sometimes it helps to laugh at the little things, to kind of reset your emotional balance, to take a step back and realize that it's okay.
I apologized to Curtis when I realized
he hadn't heard the news. I didn't meant to put him on the spot. I too think he's a good guy, and didn't mean to be rude to him in my post. I figured that his response to me indicated he realized I wasn't trying to

him. If I was wrong, and he really meant it when he flipped me off. I will feel that much worse about my post.
if anything, I was trying to ease the tension, not upset people. I have a great respect for the community. I met a lot of great people that post here, and have learned a lot about my car(s) by the grace of the work and threads I found here.
Wish for all of you the best.
All of you.
-- Whit
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Sep 18 2016, 06:28 AM
QUOTE(porschetub @ Sep 18 2016, 02:49 AM)

QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 18 2016, 11:48 AM)

Justin, i apologize for being inconsiderate. I had no idea your dad had passed. Mine too passed many years ago. I still miss him.
Whitney mic, i know who you are!

Look out Whitney or myself an old grumpy bastard is after us,really Curt that's BS EVERYONE on here knows Ron passed on,did you not read the threads and replies on here?
Until just now i had no idea who his dad was. I apologized to Justin. I think we are good. As far as you are concerned, i couldn't care less.
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 18 2016, 08:08 AM
Justin, I feel this is the time and place to say this. If you need anything for your car don't be afraid to ask for help or parts. Your Dad always gave me anything I needed and now I make you the same offer. I just wish you lived closer.
Kent
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 18 2016, 10:46 AM
Toast
Thank you Kent! All you guys are fine, in fact I'll even go as far to say the members of this board are the reason I am taking this so well. There probably isn't much anyone could say that would be offensive to me, please remember I'm SLIT's son and got his sense of humor too.
Now back to shenanigans and an epic adventure of a repair that's so simple, I should have been done last Monday.
Posted by: JustinMeier Sep 18 2016, 10:54 AM
It feels like it's binding at the firewall tube, the pedal and engine linkage are both free but the cable won't return sometimes. When it's freed up it feels like I'm sawing the cable, not a smooth movement but dragging somewhere.
Maybe I should just stop and wait for the new ones to get here Tues.
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