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Posted by: 9144guy Apr 17 2005, 02:31 PM
i have seen all the stock wheels avalible, was wondering what else was out there. heres a pic of mine..i want something else
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Posted by: dlo914 Apr 17 2005, 02:48 PM
hehe good o'l rivieras...what's the width on those?
Posted by: riverman Apr 18 2005, 07:41 AM
Do a search on this forum. You'll find this topic gets discussed very frequently and there are lots of responses with pics.
Good luck!
Here's a pic of some Revolution RZX 17x7's
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Posted by: Joe Ricard Apr 18 2005, 08:52 AM
Just sold my Pedrini's for 300
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Posted by: CptTripps Apr 18 2005, 09:04 AM
SLIM pickings....
This get's broought up all the time...Hell, I think I even did once or twice.
There are way of modding certain honda rims, but I'm not a machinist...and don't play one on TV.
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 09:08 AM
For brand new wheels, http://www.ttrsracing.com/revolution.htm and Panasport and a few race only* wheels are available that'll bolt right on.
*3-piece and start at about $350 each
You could re-drill your hubs to a different 4 bolt pattern, but there are other issues to deal with afterwards..
Posted by: CptTripps Apr 18 2005, 09:13 AM
I've always thought it'd be better to convert to 5-lugs and get a set of Boxter rims...
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 09:14 AM
| QUOTE (CptTripps @ Apr 18 2005, 08:13 AM) |
| I've always thought it'd be better to convert to 5-lugs and get a set of Boxter rims... |
thats too easy
Posted by: d914 Apr 18 2005, 09:14 AM
4- lug?
Circle or diamond with steel and or al custom offsets not to much $$$.
Fuchs, possibly some old bbs's, panasports, minilites, all of the custom race companys like kodiak and such, bigger money. Mine with fuchs.....
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Posted by: Yoei66 Apr 18 2005, 10:20 AM
I've been waiting for a set of fake fuchs for two months now. I gess the manufacturer is out, so I'll have to wait until they make a run of them again, someday. I started looking around to see what else will fit the 4 x 130 mount, I stumbled across these on the web yesterday. Made bt ATS...
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Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 10:24 AM
| QUOTE (Yoei66 @ Apr 18 2005, 09:20 AM) |
| I've been waiting for a set of fake fuchs for two months now. I gess the manufacturer is out, so I'll have to wait until they make a run of them again, someday. I started looking around to see what else will fit the 4 x 130 mount, I stumbled across these on the web yesterday. Made bt ATS... |
why??? get a set of "real" Fuchs.....normally priced from 300 to 400 a set...the fakes ones cannot be that much cheaper
Posted by: Yoei66 Apr 18 2005, 10:32 AM
Simply put, real ones will cost me more.
I decided to go with the fakes, because they are freshly polished & painted. The package price I got from the local tire store was only slightly more (about $50 bucks) than the sets of used I've seen advertised, plus new lug bolts, plus mounting are in my package. I would have to pay more for a real set after spending time and money on polishing & painting supplies, lugs, and mounting. However I'm still playing the waiting game.
Posted by: grantsfo Apr 18 2005, 10:33 AM
Does Panasport make a 15x7 that fits 4 bolt pattern with proper offset ? I was thinking of giving them a call.
Posted by: Travis Neff Apr 18 2005, 11:27 AM
I just called Panasport last week.
15x6 street wheels (comes with center caps) +30 offset 264.00. They can do 15x7, they have to be machined (so I was told) and they are their racing wheels - not for road use. Offsets from +25 to +40. You would probably want the +40 to fit in your wheel wells, they run $310.00
What about the BRM flat 4 wheels, 4 spoke jobbers for about $110. Look a little funky but might be that different look you are after.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 11:42 AM
| QUOTE (Travis Neff @ Apr 18 2005, 10:27 AM) |
| I just called Panasport last week. 15x6 street wheels (comes with center caps) +30 offset 264.00. They can do 15x7, they have to be machined (so I was told) and they are their racing wheels - not for road use. Offsets from +25 to +40. You would probably want the +40 to fit in your wheel wells, they run $310.00 What about the BRM flat 4 wheels, 4 spoke jobbers for about $110. Look a little funky but might be that different look you are after. |
BRM's are made for bugs tho...like riv's, the offset kills ya.....
195 tire MAX
Posted by: nebreitling Apr 18 2005, 11:47 AM
except for ATS, Revolution, and Panasport, i don't believe there are any companies currently making wheels for our cars...
there were a few more companies in the 70's and 80's though -- every once in a while something will come up on ebay.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 11:48 AM
anyone get a pic of the wheels on herb meeders car at the SD dinner? those were wierd....
he said they were 'haney' wheels
Posted by: URY914 Apr 18 2005, 11:57 AM
I thought someone had a website that listed/showed all the wheels for the 914.
If not we should all post a picture of ours and nail it somewhere here for referance.
Paul
Posted by: maf914 Apr 18 2005, 11:58 AM
| QUOTE (Yoei66 @ Apr 18 2005, 08:20 AM) |
| I've been waiting for a set of fake fuchs for two months now. I gess the manufacturer is out, so I'll have to wait until they make a run of them again, someday. I started looking around to see what else will fit the 4 x 130 mount, I stumbled across these on the web yesterday. Made bt ATS... |
Way back, I bought a set of 15" x 5.5" silver ATS Road Stars as shown in the photo. I had 185/70 x 15 tires on them. I thought they looked pretty good and I used them for several years. The one problem was the offset. I guess it was a beetle offset, because I don't think any larger tire wold fit in the rear without pulling the fender. The quality was very good I thought. I sold them to a fellow on the bird board a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 11:58 AM
sum mo'
pedrini
Fuchs
mahle 
Empi 8 spoke 
American Racing 'libre' 
steelie 
eww.. riv's 
ATS 
HRE/Panosports 
centerlines 
momo 
enkeis 
revo's 
and...and wtf is this? 
Posted by: v82go Apr 18 2005, 12:15 PM
Minilites are available for our 4 lug cars, $310 ea including centercap and lugs for
a 15 x 6.5". @ http://www.minilitewheels.com/
PS takes about 6 to 8 weeks to have a set made
Posted by: Travis Neff Apr 18 2005, 12:22 PM
Backspace on the BRM's are 3 5/8" so that should give you a positive offset of 1.875" My enkeis have a 20mm offset so the postiive offset (from the back of the hub mount)is 1.97 - these BRM's might be a decent fit.
A little fender rolling might be in order, I can fit 205x50's on empis on the rear with a little tugging of the fender, 195x60's on westerns/dan gurney wheels with the same amount of room.
Posted by: Porsche Rescue Apr 18 2005, 12:33 PM
These are ATS, 5.5x15 with 205/60's, stock fenders.
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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Apr 18 2005, 12:34 PM
7x15 Revolutions on my AX car. Not cheap, $999 per set. Not sure if that includes bolts, plus shipping.
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Posted by: Joe Ricard Apr 18 2005, 12:35 PM
Who's got a weight on the Revolutions. 15 x 7 ?????
Posted by: Porsche Rescue Apr 18 2005, 12:41 PM
That's the bad news. About 6 lbs. per wheel more than 2.0 Fuchs.
I put a bunch of fiberglass on to lose weight, then added 24 lbs of unsprung weight! Hope money spent on wheels and money spent on f.glass aren't cancelling each other out.
I was advised by a very experienced 914 autocrosser that 7's would make more difference than any other improvement. The 205/50 V. Racers sure seem to like them better. Sidewalls not all pinched in like on 5.5 Fuchs. Yesterday was first time out and it was wet so hard to tell yet if I gained or lost.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 01:03 PM
i hear the 17x7 revs are heavy mofo's
Posted by: grantsfo Apr 18 2005, 01:05 PM
These guys in Japan sell Fuch replicas and some others with not ideal offsets:
http://www.flat4.co.jp/drive/4lug/914/914.html
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 01:08 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Apr 18 2005, 12:03 PM) |
| i hear the 17x7 revs are heavy mofo's |
yep....I want to say 22 a pop....do I care? not really, it's for a street car and I know with the extra material they'll have the strength to take the abuse of the road..............it's all a trade off...one thing for another....
Posted by: Greg Apr 18 2005, 01:21 PM
These were built by Custom Racing Specialties in California back in the 80's with an off-set specific to the 914. Unfortunately they're out of business now.
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Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 01:27 PM
who wants to put a webpage together with all the 4 lug wheels known to fit 914s?
Posted by: vsg914 Apr 18 2005, 01:32 PM
Rusty has one on his website, but it hasn't been updated lately. There is another one here too.
Oh yeah, don't the forget the Western 
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Posted by: Demick Apr 18 2005, 01:40 PM
Someone found these awhile back - they appear as if they should fit. Lightweight rim at a pretty good price. Here's the thread on it:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=27522
Demick
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 01:46 PM
unfortuneatly they are in austrailia....
Posted by: grantsfo Apr 18 2005, 01:48 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 18 2005, 11:08 AM) | ||
yep....I want to say 22 a pop....do I care? not really, it's for a street car and I know with the extra material they'll have the strength to take the abuse of the road..............it's all a trade off...one thing for another.... |
Yikes 22 lbs for a 17x7 wheel! ...thats heavy even for street use. My 17x8 street wheels for my 3400 lb Audi weigh 20 lbs! The rims that the 20lb wheels replaced were 24lbs and I can feel the difference in acceleration in a 250 hp Audi. I can only imagine how slow those make a 914 feel. I have 11 lb street wheels on my 2000lb Toyota and have put 40,000 hard miles on those rims without a single issue.
They made these custom for 914's and didnt think about keeping them lightweight? I wonder how much the 15x7's they make weigh? I think they could have made these a little lighter and not sacraficed durability for street use.
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 02:02 PM
in all fairness for the Revolution wheels...they are designed for Rally racing, not your typical and less abused road racing/auto-x venue
Posted by: guywan914 Apr 18 2005, 06:39 PM
Riverman, curious what tire combination you are running with those 17x7 rev's. Looks like you have original fenders without flares.
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 06:43 PM
| QUOTE (guywan914 @ Apr 18 2005, 05:39 PM) |
| Riverman, curious what tire combination you are running with those 17x7 rev's. Looks like you have original fenders without flares. |
those 17x7 are designed for bone stock fenders...I have the same rims...205/45/17's.....perfect offset of 35mm
Posted by: Porsche Rescue Apr 18 2005, 06:46 PM
My scale said 13+ lbs. for fuchs, 19+ for Revolution 7x15.
Posted by: Eric Taylor Apr 18 2005, 06:57 PM
I've got a set of these if your interested. Brand new rubber. The paint can be stirpped off and the wheels are silver underneath.
Eric
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Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 07:05 PM
| QUOTE (Eric Taylor @ Apr 18 2005, 05:57 PM) |
| I've got a set of these if your interested. Brand new rubber. The paint can be stirpped off and the wheels are silver underneath. Eric |
I thought those have a different and smaller 4 bolt pattern....nice car, I miss my '88 90 Quattro
Posted by: Brad Roberts Apr 18 2005, 07:09 PM
Mueller,
it is threads like this that make me want to PUKE 
We know what needs to be done.
B
Posted by: Eric Taylor Apr 18 2005, 07:10 PM
Your right muller it's totally different, because I put up the wrong picture. I'll change it . Those are the rims I want for my 93 audi 90. They are pertty 
Eric
Posted by: jgiroux67 Apr 18 2005, 07:16 PM
And this is why I went five lug. No 4 lug wheels looked that great and none were big enough to fill gt flares. Although these looked pretty good
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 07:17 PM
| QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ Apr 18 2005, 06:09 PM) |
| Mueller, it is threads like this that make me want to PUKE We know what needs to be done. B |
I hear ya...I "need" a set of those as well for my big brake upgrade
Posted by: jgiroux67 Apr 18 2005, 07:18 PM
Forgot the pic. They dont look 4 lug but they came off a four lug car(not mine)
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Posted by: Hammy Apr 18 2005, 07:19 PM
I like the rivieras.. anyone know anything about them?
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 07:19 PM
| QUOTE (jgiroux67 @ Apr 18 2005, 06:16 PM) |
| And this is why I went five lug. No 4 lug wheels looked that great and none were big enough to fill gt flares. Although these looked pretty good |
tons of 4-lug rims for GT flares if you wanted to use 4 to 4 adapters which are perfectly safe......I would have done that had I had GT flares...
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 07:22 PM
| QUOTE (Hammy @ Apr 18 2005, 06:19 PM) |
| I like the rivieras.. anyone know anything about them? |
your kidding right???
Riv's came about to give cheap bug owners a way to think they have 5 lug Fuchs......too skinny and most have a crappy offset to put decent size tires on them.....Rivs are good to put on a 914 that you are trying to get rid of....
Posted by: Hammy Apr 18 2005, 07:25 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 18 2005, 05:22 PM) | ||
your kidding right??? Riv's came about to give cheap bug owners a way to think they have 5 lug Fuchs......too skinny and most have a crappy offset to put decent size tires on them.....Rivs are good to put on a 914 that you are trying to get rid of.... |
I just think they look.... nice
I don't really mind if they're fuchs look-a-likes. Then what else is out there besides going 5 lug?
Posted by: Ray Warren Apr 18 2005, 07:37 PM
More ATS
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Posted by: 9144guy Apr 18 2005, 07:52 PM
hammy, look at the first post thats my rivieras. i have every type of sock wheel at work. including american racing wheels..on this thread..i can go 5-lug easily, i have a couple cust. that will give me a front conversion,but i have to still come up with 5-lug rear spindals and wheels and tires...i have my set of rivieras done painted and with brandnew kumo tries on them..yes i cuould drill them but dont want to , our 914 racer we put 914 stock caliper with a 911 drilled and vented rotor on rear , mach. a spacer between caliper ,with o-ring slots and longer pad pins. works great. has a 930 turbo front brake setup
Posted by: Mueller Apr 18 2005, 07:58 PM
aaron wrote: wtf are these????
those look like Centerline rims....damn ugly on a 914.....they look halfway decent when about twice as wide....Champ 500s I think???
I've seen those on a 930's, much better looking .....
Posted by: riverman Apr 18 2005, 08:00 PM
| QUOTE (guywan914 @ Apr 18 2005, 07:39 PM) |
| Riverman, curious what tire combination you are running with those 17x7 rev's. Looks like you have original fenders without flares. |
Not my car, but I contacted the company and they say 205/45/17 or 205/50/17 will fit without any fender mods.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 18 2005, 08:01 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 18 2005, 06:58 PM) |
| aaron wrote: wtf are these???? those look like Centerline rims....damn ugly on a 914.....they look halfway decent when about twice as wide....Champ 500s I think??? I've seen those on a 930's, much better looking ..... |
the look like the inner rim on a duallie
Posted by: URY914 Apr 18 2005, 08:03 PM
My 8" x 15" fake Centerlines.
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Posted by: URY914 Apr 18 2005, 08:05 PM
my old wheels...
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Posted by: vsg914 Apr 18 2005, 08:09 PM
| QUOTE (Hammy @ Apr 18 2005, 08:25 PM) | ||||
I just think they look.... nice I don't really mind if they're fuchs look-a-likes. Then what else is out there besides going 5 lug? |
C'mon Mike, they don't look anything like a Fuch.
Hammy, they don't fit on our cars with a 205/60 without rolling the fender well lips, or giving the fender a good pull, but I've seen lots of cars that they look great on. Reminds me of a "hot wheels" car, and thats just about what our cars are.
Posted by: 9144guy Apr 18 2005, 08:11 PM
well ,hell i think my wheels will look better than and on this thread,after i get dont polishing them and sanding off rough edges,they look nice but no-one has shone me nothing i havent seen.
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