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Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 2 2016, 12:35 AM

I've been able to source some very good LEDs for our car. It took some trial and error, but have been able to locate and check fit to assure these will work on our cars

Option 1-
I have H4 housings just want LEDs I know will fit without any issues - Not DOT approved 2600 lumens- $32 per bulb

Option 2-
I have H4 housings want the BEST LED I know will fit that DOT approved Watertight 3000 lumens
$48 bulb

Option 3-Plug and play Jeep series LED complete housed unit DOT approved 3000 lumens
$98 per unit.


For those that want New H4 no sealed beam housings we are looking at buying in bulk and providing at cost. So don't worry if you don't have an H4 housing. They are not that expensive, and we will try to get the best price possible for them.

We may be able to do better on these is we can get some volume, but wanted to test the waters.

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Posted by: falcor75 Nov 2 2016, 12:58 AM

I'd be interested in option #2 but I would not buy untill mid 2017.

Posted by: carcus Nov 2 2016, 01:32 AM

I would buy plug and play DOT legal ones with the most lumens in housings that are plug and play. Would buy a set. The things you design and manufacture for us are always awesome and I would be the first to support. They have to be waterproof, and deal with below freezing temps though with no fog or leaks. Any of those issues and I am out.

Posted by: JustinMeier Nov 2 2016, 01:36 AM

Option 3.. Easy and right.

Posted by: mb911 Nov 2 2016, 04:49 AM

Option 3 as I don't have housings anyhow.

Posted by: JoeD Nov 2 2016, 05:54 AM

I'd be in

Posted by: clapeza Nov 2 2016, 06:18 AM

Any idea if the DOT approved (#2) ones will fit in an early 70's longhood 911? If so, I'm in for 2 sets.

Posted by: Chris H. Nov 2 2016, 08:02 AM

Option 3. Ready when you are sir.

Posted by: 87m491 Nov 2 2016, 08:23 AM

I have 5 70's/80's era cars with E code headlights and higher output H4 lamps. So I'd be quite interested in a few sets of plug and play bulbs for H4 lamps. You only mention 1 lumen number per option. Am I correct in assuming a Hi/Lo function for these H4 bulbs?

Posted by: cary Nov 2 2016, 08:30 AM

On my DD I'll go with option #3. The headlights on my daughters new Acura are amazing.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 2 2016, 08:45 AM

a couple questions answered

The lumens given are per channel. They they are high and low.

As far as fitting in a long hood 911 they should fit as the replace the bulb and have minimal extra in the back. I would venture a guess they fit, just haven't tried to fit yet. I'd be willing to take them back if you had any problems.

Thanks,
Mark

Posted by: morgan_harwell Nov 2 2016, 09:58 AM

Option 2 for me. One set.

Posted by: blackmoon Nov 2 2016, 10:25 AM

1 set for me of option #3

Posted by: blackmoon Nov 2 2016, 10:26 AM

one set of option #3

Posted by: ottox914 Nov 2 2016, 10:33 AM

Do you expect the housings + option 2 would be less or more $$$ than option 3 plug-n-play? Any reason to go with the H4 housings and option 2 over just doing option 3 if the cost were about the same?

Posted by: pbanders Nov 2 2016, 03:35 PM

With regard to option 3, I have similar lights to those, there are multiple versions of that light out there, they all seem to be physically the same. My comment is that if you convert to these lights, it is very important to properly set the aim, it will likely need adjustment after you convert, especially due to the configuration of the hi and lo beam sections of these lights. Mine had a crappy and irregular pattern until I carefully followed an aiming procedure (look up the one on Google from Daniel Stern Lighting, or look in the 914 Factory Workshop Manual). After a proper aiming, they pattern was very good and the hi beams are awesome.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 2 2016, 07:07 PM

As far as the cost of the bulb + the H4 housing vs the option 3 :
The H4 option should be less I suspect $15 or so per unit.
I personally prefer this option as it keeps a stock look.
With that being said, no one sees your headlights up when they are not on 90% of the time. When these are turned on they are most definitely brighter than the stock bulbs.

We are going to do testing on these this next week, and I suspect we will offer option 2 and option 3.

More to follow.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 2 2016, 07:13 PM

(4) option #2

Posted by: mepstein Nov 2 2016, 07:52 PM

I purchased these A month ago.


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Posted by: rudedude Nov 2 2016, 08:03 PM

option #2 probably 2 sets, do they work on 6 volts also?

Posted by: porsche913b_sp Nov 2 2016, 10:01 PM

I would be down for option 2 0r 3

Posted by: whatabout1 Nov 2 2016, 10:22 PM

Yea, I would be in for 2 or 3. Mostly 3 and would definitely need the housing.

Posted by: porbmw Nov 2 2016, 10:40 PM

Daughter will be starting a full time job, driving her teener 30 or more miles, each way, in our Wet Coast....leaving at dark in am, returning in dark in pm....

Optoin 3 please....please.....please....

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 3 2016, 09:33 AM

We have found there are several versions of these. Some DOT approved some not.

Note these do not mention Jeep, so I suspect based on cost they probably are not. I've looked at a few of these, and while they all look the same, there are variations in the weights and well as construction. Also look at the entry into the back of the housings, the non DOT are pretty cheesy, a loosely fit grommet.

Posted by: Philip W. Nov 3 2016, 01:34 PM

is there anyone who has converted their 75/76 rectangle bosch fog light to LED bulb? is there a quick or easy conversion to switch out the current bulb for an LED in same housing and reflector?

Posted by: lonewolfe Nov 3 2016, 06:00 PM

I'm interested in 2 of Option 2. I already have H4 housings and want to keep an original look.

Posted by: cconcepcion Nov 3 2016, 10:25 PM

option #2 for me..

Posted by: cconcepcion Nov 3 2016, 10:26 PM

option #2 for me..

Posted by: bandjoey Nov 3 2016, 10:37 PM

No. 2

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 4 2016, 03:40 PM

Matt will have a few samples in hand shortly so we can make a few available before bringing in quantity. I plan to do one in mine, so we will have a few available shortly for feedback before the main GB. That way we can tweek this it have install instructions too.

Posted by: JimmyG Nov 4 2016, 03:55 PM

opt 2 for me. I'm in.

Posted by: carcus Nov 4 2016, 04:45 PM

Will there be a expensive shipping charge? Price plus shipping is what I am looking at for option 3. Plug and play. I have money ready. Let me know.

Posted by: BuddyV Nov 5 2016, 10:20 AM

(2) sets of #2

Posted by: kid914 Nov 5 2016, 11:27 AM

1 for #2.

Posted by: BeatNavy Nov 5 2016, 12:34 PM

1 pair of #2, sil vous plait.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 5 2016, 12:52 PM

Our shipping is not known for gouging. We charge actual, but do pack to avoid damage.
Should be about $15 with housing on average. Less for smaller stuff.
Mark

Posted by: carcus Nov 5 2016, 09:28 PM

I am in. Put me down for one of the first Option 3. Excited about these and all of your products are quality.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 9 2017, 04:25 PM

Are the LED headlight bulbs (etc) on your web page ?

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 9 2017, 04:37 PM

This is a comparison of an H4 housing and light to an H4 housing with one of Mark's LED offerings. My idle no longer drops when the lights come on and THEY ARE MUCH BRIGHTER! Mark would have to tell you which bulb it is because my car was a test mule for these and I just installed what he sent.


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Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 9 2017, 10:54 PM

Thanks Rob,
Now I just need to hound matt to get these up on the site.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 10 2017, 03:11 PM

Being stupid....what is the H4 housing? Is that the stock housing the large light bulb plugs into?

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 10 2017, 04:09 PM

The H4 housing accepts a bulb. In most cases an H4 bulb. In this case an LED. The stock headlight is a sealed beam. When it burns out, you replace the whole unit.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 10 2017, 05:10 PM

Which H4 bulb ? 3,000 or 2,600 Lumens

Posted by: bigkensteele Jul 10 2017, 06:31 PM

Yes, I was looking for them about a week ago...

Posted by: raynekat Jul 10 2017, 11:01 PM

Anyone have a pic of a 914 H4 housing. I know what a 911 H4 housing looks like, but never seen a 914 H4 housing.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 10 2017, 11:18 PM

I have a day off the training tomorrow, I'll get a pic up tomorrow for you and get these listed. I have a few sets in stock. The H$ housing is also installed in the picture Rob has (the brighter one. Basically it has indentations that line up with the headlight housing ring.

Mark

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 11 2017, 12:47 AM

It looks almost exactly like a stock original sealed beam except the bulb unplugs from the back where the sealed beam is... well, sealed.

In my picture, both are H4 headlight housings. One has, as I said, an H4 bulb, the other an LED bulb. The H4 is a 3000 lumen bulb. It now resides in my son Nicho's 944. He also has the spare bulbs that came with the new H4 housings Mark sent me. Not sure what lumen they are.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 12 2017, 08:45 AM

These are in in a limited quantity (had more but have been selling off website).

They are actually a Phillips chip (some say it some don't) and are waterproof. These are the best bang for the buck we could find. We literally looked at over a dozen potential vendors. They are not apples to apples. I do have some cheaper samples we have ordered that I may be able to make available but they are not truly water tight, as bright, some were just not built as well.

They also cost more than we had anticipated, but in our opinion worth every penny. We did keep the GB price about the same ($2 more), but there's not much margin on these at the sale price.

On sale now
http://shop.914rubber.com/LED-Headlight-bulbs-H4LEDS2.htm?categoryId=-1

Also have the lenses for those that need them

http://shop.914rubber.com/H4-Glass-Housings-for-LED-or-reg-bulbs-H4.htm





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Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 12 2017, 08:55 AM

disreguard

Posted by: NFBrown Jul 12 2017, 07:54 PM

It would be great to drive the 914 at night. Last time I did my dimmer relay stuck on hi-beam and none of the on-coming traffic noticed.

Nick

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 12 2017, 08:45 PM

Same banana...


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Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 12 2017, 08:56 PM

Order submitted !

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 12 2017, 09:28 PM

Yes you will note the output is higher than we originally looked at and all that have purchased them have been quite happy.

I only have a few sets left on the shelf more inbound in about a week, didn't think they would sell out that fast! PMs going out to all.

Mark

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 12 2017, 09:43 PM

order submitted and paid - question- is 1 = a set of 2?

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 13 2017, 12:23 AM

LED kit, yes 1 kit - 2 bulbs. H4 housings are individual but have option to buy the set for less. Yes I have someone that just wanted one housing.

Thanks for checking,
Mark

Posted by: 914_teener Jul 13 2017, 12:26 AM

Man...this looks good for me as well. I'll wait till you get more in Mark.

Is there a plug and play for the fog lights? I know there are a few threads on this.

Posted by: 914_teener Jul 13 2017, 12:27 AM

Oh...btw I found a led for the interior light that will work.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 13 2017, 06:13 PM

Great,
And BTW we did get some interior lights in too , again just need to list them up on the site.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Jul 14 2017, 11:21 AM

Can you still get the headlight covers on with these?

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 14 2017, 11:49 AM

Yes...

Everything is on there. Fully reassembled.


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Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 14 2017, 11:58 AM

The terminaology is a little off, but we do have the housings for the LEDs you can get if you do not already have them. If that is what you mean yes.
-Mark

Posted by: PotterPorsche Jul 14 2017, 12:34 PM

Can you let me know once you have more bulbs in stock.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 15 2017, 01:19 PM

Will contact all that have bumped the thread once in.

Posted by: brownaar Jul 15 2017, 08:43 PM

Any suggestions on where/how to mount/secure this on the 914 install? Plus, it's a shame Mark doesn't make a modified boot for these for the back of the bulb housing. That thing was a pain.

Thanks,
Aaron

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 16 2017, 12:15 PM

I zip tied these to the housing, pics to follow

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 16 2017, 12:22 PM

Being a little OCD I also wrapped the connection with a a piece of rubber inter tube and zip tied it also. Wanted to make sure that connections were protected. You can see what I did here


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Posted by: brownaar Jul 16 2017, 01:54 PM

Thx!

Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 18 2017, 05:07 PM

Got my LEDs today, I see the pictures of the zip tied part; since it has screw holes on the corners, shouldn't it be screwed down ? What's the issue with the rubber cap ? I'm going to do thee install Friday.....


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Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 18 2017, 11:21 PM

I elected to leave the rubber cap off as it really doesn't keep the water out the way it's set up. I've had no issues thus far. I was more concerned with water on the connections. Mostly as the HID units I had on my 951 showed some signs of corrosion. This is a different set up but figured I'd protect it.

For Jim, yes it could be screwed down, but I was able to secure nicely with the zip ties.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 19 2017, 12:34 AM

The rubber cap is intended for the H4 bulb. You could use it but it tends to push the socket off the connection. I simply don't ever drive my car in the rain.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 25 2017, 12:25 AM

I apologize if I hit a few of you up that already bought these, I just wanted to make sure I did get everyone notified we have these back in stock.

Thanks for your participation on the GB, these took awhile, but I think you will find them worth the wait.

Also just a heads up I have a few GB item going (and of course there will be more coming)

We couldn't make the parts we do without your help!

Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 30 2017, 09:51 AM

GB ends 8/1/17

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Jul 30 2017, 10:20 AM

Please add my name for option #2. DOT LED bulbs only. I have H4 housings already.
PayPal sent.
Thanks, Marty

Posted by: drem914 Jul 30 2017, 04:42 PM

Any code needed for the GB?

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 30 2017, 08:54 PM

i installed these in some HID housings that also have halos! couple pictures of them - i did install the rubber caps-


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Posted by: Philip W. Jul 30 2017, 09:06 PM

how do i get the headlight housings to stay up?

Posted by: Nogoodwithusernames Jul 31 2017, 04:33 PM

Ditto, would like to get a set and have never done one of the GB's before so not sure how they work.

Posted by: pete000 Jul 31 2017, 04:51 PM

I am in for option 2.

What's the ordering process?

Also is there a reduction of amp draw on the electrical system?

I am having some issues with my voltage dropping during long stops at idle. Might be a tired charging system.

Posted by: Wyvern Jul 31 2017, 05:01 PM

Turn your key ON
Turn on your headlights
Remove plastic cover in trunk next to the headlight motor ( 2 screws)
Remove the round relay.
Turn off the key and headlights

Your headlight will stay up.

When you put the relay back in it will close (watch where your fingers are as it will really hurt )

Posted by: Wyvern Jul 31 2017, 05:24 PM

I am ordering from the website now .... see the bulbs in stock, but the H4 Lenses are "backordered" should I order (assuming they might be in sooner than later) or if not, find / source elsewhere.

Thank you

Posted by: Philip W. Jul 31 2017, 08:29 PM

Mark, i have a question: has anyone had issues with the high beam not coming on??
right now i have one hooked up and the other is standard- the high beam comes on when i pull the lever and hold it but when i let go the LED high beam does not stay on .
its not the relay. is the built in LED relay defective?

phil

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 1 2017, 01:17 AM

Trying to understand the question.
Is the High beam not coming on period? Or is the issue the relay not staying on powering both. I suspect it's a relay issue if the High beams work. The relay is not internal to the LED. It's at the fuse panel area. Many of the old ones are silver.

Mikle Bellis did a good write up of an alternate option to the $50 OEM one.

You may find this thread enlightening .... pardon the pun.




http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=103905&hl=saab++headlight++relay

Posted by: Philip W. Aug 1 2017, 06:36 AM

ok trying to clarify-
the high beam will not come on - or I should say it will not stay on - when I pull the lever on the stearing column, you hear the click - and the high beam does come on on the right side bulb- that one is still the original bulb not converted yet- so the relay must be working - but on the left side- drivers side that hast the LED hooked up, it does not- BUT if I hold the lever back and don't release it then the led high beam turns on - but releasing the lever it goes back off-
- it seems to be in the circuit of the LED- im going to hook up the other on on this side to see if it does the same thing - I will try this tonight - will see the result - I will also hook back up a standard bulb if that works high and low, but the LED does not then it is not my car, it is something int he LED wiring and the 914 that is not compatible- maybe the flasher conversion is the problem/??
Maybe someone else here , Jim Hoyland? I think he did the flasher conversion on his car same time I did mine - ( flasher conversion- where you can run the fogs with out lights being on and if you pull the lever it will flash the fogs)

Thanks for the input

Posted by: bahnzai Aug 1 2017, 03:03 PM

I ordered today, but could not find how to incorporate the Group buy aspect on the website.
Thx

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 1 2017, 03:52 PM

Ok,
I may have made the post a little confusing the posting. I meant to say it was done today like ended last night.
Sometimes when you are posting with the lack of sleep thing get a little goofy.

As always I will make it right. So it ends tonight at midnight.


The only issue we have right now is that we will be back ordered for about 10 more days for any more that come in at this point. Order them now and wait you get the GB price. Wait and the GB will be over.

Thanks to all!


And anyone that paid full price already today will be refunded to the GB price.

Posted by: Wyvern Aug 1 2017, 06:17 PM

Ordered LED bulbs.
Should I go ahead and also order H4 Glass Housings ( they show "Backordered")?

I would like 2 at the GB price.

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 1 2017, 08:03 PM

If you need them do. We just got more in yesterday but have not yet corrected. Will do so shortly.

Posted by: lonewolfe Aug 2 2017, 12:28 AM

Is $98 the group buy price? That's what I got on the 914rubber site.

Posted by: Wyvern Aug 14 2017, 08:19 PM

Received my bulbs ... very excited to install.
In my delivery were 2 additional "Bulb Lenses" (round tubes that look to be able to replace the ones already installed)
I am guessing these may put a different tint / color on the light.

Any info ? Or anyone try them ?

Posted by: Matty900 Aug 15 2017, 12:14 AM

The additional lenses allow you to change the color of the light to your liking

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 15 2017, 01:08 AM

And we have another shipment in and ready to ship for anyone else that may need LEDs.

Posted by: Philip W. Aug 15 2017, 07:06 AM

matk- do these headlights/reflectors look like they would work with the new LED you have?


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Posted by: Matty900 Aug 15 2017, 09:43 AM

If it will take an H4 bulb. It should fit fine.


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Posted by: Wyvern Aug 15 2017, 10:49 PM

WoW . installed last night , went out tonight to aim. ( I was really close)

These are AMAZING !

So happy to now not be concerned when driving at night .
Heading down to Monterey Car Week, Werks and Laguna for 5 days.
I should have been cleaning and polishing but it will be great to actually see at night.

Best $150 I have spent on the 914. ( I got bulbs and lenses)

Posted by: Philip W. Aug 16 2017, 07:14 AM

yes they are H4, which I have to say light up the road very nicely - I will be retrying the new LED-s that you have there- the ones I first received were not correct and would not go to high beam, so we will retry the new ones as soon as they come. Mark answered my questions via pm but basically the H4 reflectors can vary a lot- I saw this with one set that were actually HID- the dispersal pattern was horrible even pointed as low as it could go it lit up the sky- would have been horrible for oncoming drivers- I like my current lights - I've tried 4 different types of H4 bulbs and the ones I have in now are 6k bulbs and really give great visibility so if the LED don't work I will be fine with what I have- that said I cant help but try these!
I will post some comparison pictures of the road at night with the different bulbs -

Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 17 2017, 12:51 AM

More LEDs back in.

Posted by: falcor75 Aug 19 2017, 02:29 AM

I added my review of the LED's and housings in my build thread.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=203294&st=300

Posted by: porschetub Aug 20 2017, 06:33 PM

what is the function of the square box I did notice similar units don't use them,is it a ballast or transformer ??? I really don't ,

Posted by: Spoke Aug 20 2017, 09:08 PM

You're close with the transformer. Most likely it's a dc-dc converter to convert the constant 12-14Vdc input power to a constant output current to the LEDs. LEDs are controlled by current, not voltage. A dc-dc converter is usually very efficient and doesn't get too hot.

Posted by: porschetub Aug 21 2017, 04:13 PM

Thanks Spoke never too old to learn eh ....ok here I go again bear with me,so why do some not have this box ,mine don't,just plug straight into the 3 pin headlight circuit plug.
Didn't buy the 914rubber ones because found the ones I have locally from a friend that has a auto electrical shop,he mentioned the had sold a lot of them with no issues,just hoping they are ok....reason I asked.
I really would like to improve my lighting as I have rather poor night vision and always have had.

Posted by: porsche913b_sp Oct 7 2017, 08:16 PM

Hi Mark, did I miss something, was I supposed to add new wiring for the LEDs. I went to test fit one side and turned it on, there was hum from the internal fan in the bulb, as soon as I went to look at the headlamp. It turned off and I found the the low beam fuse blown.

Did I get a defect bulb or I need to add new wiring for the LED bulb ?

Thanks
Ted

Posted by: michael7810 Oct 8 2017, 08:01 AM

Must be a defective bulb and/or transformer as long as the wires didn't get pinched somehow in the mechanism. I just installed mine with stock wiring and they work great.

Posted by: porsche913b_sp Oct 8 2017, 12:21 PM

No pinched wiring, the headlight assy was not buttoned up yet, everything was not put back together.

That's good to know no new extra wiring is needed.
I am going to plug in the other bulb and see.

My wiring is very unmolested original, plus the headlight was working fine before the install. I even took a before video to look at the improvement when I am done.

Is the fan supposed to be ON as soon as the headlights are turned on.
I didn't realized there was a fan until I heard the humming sound.

Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 8 2017, 02:21 PM

Been off the board for a few days at work.
Ours are warrantied so no problem dropping you a new one out. We will also test it so it's a known good.
My guess is you got a dud.
PM me your email so I can look up and drop out.
Mark

Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 8 2017, 02:25 PM

Yes fan is on when under power.