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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Upgraded my 914 to twin turbos!

Posted by: patssle Nov 10 2016, 10:09 PM

Twin turbo tie rods that is. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted by: tygaboy Nov 10 2016, 10:18 PM

I'll admit it, I fell for it... sheeplove.gif

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Nov 10 2016, 11:16 PM

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I'm about go down the same path.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 11 2016, 12:34 AM

How big is the difference in feel?

Posted by: mgp4591 Nov 11 2016, 03:38 AM

Where did you source them from? I'm planning on the same thing because the elimination of the one sloppy joint really does make all the difference.

Posted by: mepstein Nov 11 2016, 06:23 AM

PMB performance sells them
Yes, you need to use the thick washers biggrin.gif

Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 11 2016, 07:00 AM

I recently did the turbo tie-rod upgrade and found a significant improvement in the steering feel. When we looked over the old tie rods, they were definateky worn.... smile.gif

Posted by: patssle Nov 11 2016, 09:27 AM

QUOTE(mgp4591 @ Nov 11 2016, 01:38 AM) *

Where did you source them from? I'm planning on the same thing because the elimination of the one sloppy joint really does make all the difference.


Pelican also sells them. You need a special tool to remove the old ones but I used the pipe wrench in the picture and it worked fine. Also need a 32mm slim wrench to put on the turbos. I used this one (did have to grind the end down slightly): https://www.amazon.com/ABN-Clutch-Wrench-Removal-Holding/dp/B01IPWNTV6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478877972&sr=8-1&keywords=%22ABN+BMW+Ford+Fan+Clutch+Nut

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 11 2016, 04:23 AM) *

Yes, you need to use the thick washers biggrin.gif


Definitely - you can tell the threaded studs are a lot longer on the turbos.

Posted by: jkb944t Nov 11 2016, 11:30 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 11 2016, 04:23 AM) *


Yes, you need to use the thick washers biggrin.gif


I don't remember if I used the thick washers. What happens if you don't use them?

Jeff B

Posted by: Chris Pincetich Nov 11 2016, 11:53 AM

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What do people do about the rubber boot? Mine don't fit right with my "twin turbos" and I think water gets in there mad.gif

Posted by: Mr.Nobody Nov 11 2016, 12:03 PM

QUOTE(jkb944t @ Nov 11 2016, 09:30 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 11 2016, 04:23 AM) *


Yes, you need to use the thick washers biggrin.gif


I don't remember if I used the thick washers. What happens if you don't use them?

Jeff B



I didn't. Caught major flack for it on here. Consulted with a number of 914 specialists and they said I didn't have to and they had run turbos without them in the past on the street and track with no issues. With the washers, the fit was all off. So I left them off. Only concern was being careful when installing to not crank them down so hard as to damage the rack.

Flame suit on!

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Posted by: whitetwinturbo Nov 11 2016, 12:48 PM

.............my twin turbo fell for it too grouphug.gif grouphug.gif grouphug.gif

Posted by: rudedude Nov 11 2016, 02:37 PM

I think it made a huge difference although I put in new suspension bushings also

Posted by: PanelBilly Nov 11 2016, 04:51 PM

Fooled me too. I was all ready to see a big ass /6 with turbos stuffed in the teener

Posted by: second wind Nov 11 2016, 11:41 PM

So what are we talkin' money wise? I hear Chinese and NOT CHINESE.....do tell......thank you!
gg

Posted by: mepstein Nov 12 2016, 06:41 AM

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So what are we talkin' money wise? I hear Chinese and NOT CHINESE.....do tell......thank you!
gg

About $200. Get the real deal so the rubber boots last.

Posted by: jmill Nov 12 2016, 06:54 AM

Instead of ordering a thin 32mm you could just grind down a cheap 1 1/4 from harbor freight.




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Posted by: dlee6204 Nov 12 2016, 07:41 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 12 2016, 07:41 AM) *

QUOTE(second wind @ Nov 12 2016, 12:41 AM) *

So what are we talkin' money wise? I hear Chinese and NOT CHINESE.....do tell......thank you!
gg

About $200. Get the real deal so the rubber boots last.


Genuine Lemfoerder can be as cheap as ~$140 so it really doesn't make sense to cheap out for the Off-brand stuff.

Posted by: patssle Nov 12 2016, 07:23 PM

Yeah definitely want the Lemfoerder.

Finished up my tie rods, new sway bar bushings, torsion bar adjustments, and did a home DIY alignment with a ruler and strings. Drove the car and seems to handle better and no shakes at speed. So I did something right!

Will find out further tomorrow at an autocross...

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Posted by: TC 914-8 Nov 12 2016, 08:11 PM

I fell for it too
But I can add I did the same upgrade last spring. I did use the washers, and added the bump steer spacers too. So more wobble great feel and also went with the Lemforder from PP. Attached Image

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