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Posted by: fordb132 Nov 13 2016, 02:20 PM

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Hi everybody from Norway.I'm starting a new project here as I found the remains of a 914 for 300 usd.It was cut into three parts to make it easier to bring it to the scrap yard.I lost my job,so I have plenty of time and less money.
This car has nearly nothing left of the outside body panels,so I feel free to make some fun out of it.There is very much structural rust to fix first and thanks to Brians Machine Service I have a 911 roof I want to weld on top of the 914 chassis.
This is a long term project I want to shear with you.I have a plan....
Lets put on some good music in the workshop and start up the welding machine.

Posted by: krazykonrad Nov 13 2016, 02:25 PM

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This will be a fun build to watch. Let us all know if we can help.

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Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 13 2016, 03:44 PM

Yes definitely an uphill battle. Start with securing the substructure. The longs and pan would be the best place to start,

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 13 2016, 04:27 PM

Looks like you have your work cut out for you ...
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Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 13 2016, 04:39 PM

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Posted by: matthepcat Nov 13 2016, 06:01 PM

Glutton for punishment?

Posted by: 76-914 Nov 13 2016, 06:05 PM

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Posted by: EJZero1 Nov 13 2016, 08:07 PM

My starting point suddenly looks a lot less daunting!

Hats off to you for your ambition, and best of luck!

Posted by: bretth Nov 13 2016, 08:28 PM

Damn I hate to see any car go to waste. This would be the ultimate resurrection. Rock on.

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Posted by: RobW Nov 13 2016, 08:49 PM

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If you can bring that car back to life. You have a free beer in Pleasanton CA any time you want to collect.

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Posted by: falcor75 Nov 14 2016, 01:09 AM

Yikes, well at least you wont have to worry about make it worse that it was before... Good luck from Sweden.

Posted by: flat4guy Nov 14 2016, 01:37 AM

Good thing you have long cold winters.......

Posted by: Frankvw Nov 14 2016, 03:10 AM

ok...so if I sum it up : we have a 914 in three pieces, a chopped 911 roof, a welding machine and plenty of time and the mindset that you want to use those ingredients......wow.
Keep us updated since this is a major project and there is something to enjoy for all of us since every aspect of the 914 will be in scope.
I wish you good luck with this project. Greetings from Holland

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 14 2016, 05:26 AM

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THANKS for the positive response.I restored a -70 914 last year
and I like that car a lot.When this wreck came up,I got an idea of using the chassis for another design.The first pic in this thread is actually a few months old.
Didn't dear to start a thread before I knew it was fixable...

Posted by: mbseto Nov 14 2016, 08:04 AM

This will surely be interesting. What's your plan? Tube frame? Fiberglass body?

Your driver looks great, got a few more pics?

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 14 2016, 03:04 PM

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I found a few more pics of my 914 for you.Thinking of making a new body of aluminum on my new project and give it some 904 styling.Dont know if thats done before??

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Posted by: ThePaintedMan Nov 14 2016, 04:57 PM

I fully support you turning this car, or the pieces of it, into a 904, or just about anything you want!

I do not, however, support cutting up race cars with pedigree to turn them into 904s, or otherwise. poke.gif (you'll hear more about that story I'm sure, but in the meantime, welcome! The gold car looks really cool too!)

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 15 2016, 12:09 PM

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Thanks for the welcome and a pic of the wreck with the new roof and on wheels,looking good.My hope is that it will become a race car......
Do anyone know if there is any 904's in metal?

Posted by: tygaboy Nov 15 2016, 12:23 PM

Wow - that 911 roof looks nice! Let's see some more pics from other angles, please!

Posted by: flat4guy Nov 15 2016, 02:17 PM

It looks soooo much better with a roof and wheels on it, I too would like to see more roof pics.

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 15 2016, 02:32 PM

I'm only using the front part of the roof,so the locals that visits my workshop thinks I'm trying to make it into a pick-up....A famous man once said...like doing card tricks for a dog.The workshop is too small to get any pictures from the side...I'm planning to push it outside one day with nice weather.

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 17 2016, 03:57 PM

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Body structure coming together.Time to start on the aluminium body skin.Made my first body panel of alu today and discovered that I have lots to learn there.Thanks to all my spare time,I hope to drive this thing next summer....

Posted by: tygaboy Nov 17 2016, 04:58 PM

That is soooo cool. LOVE IT! Keep posting and best of luck with your build.

Posted by: Millerwelds Nov 17 2016, 05:57 PM

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I am amazed. Great progress and vision. Keep it up and keep us up to date. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Garold Shaffer Nov 17 2016, 08:07 PM

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Thanks for the welcome and a pic of the wreck with the new roof and on wheels,looking good.My hope is that it will become a race car......
Do anyone know if there is any 904's in metal?


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Posted by: gms Nov 17 2016, 08:15 PM

That looks awesome!

Posted by: zambezi Nov 17 2016, 10:49 PM

Now THIS will be a 904 build to watch. Awesome work.

Posted by: Krieger Nov 17 2016, 11:36 PM

WOW! I saw your first post days ago and I did not want to comment. I thought you were nuts and that car was too far gone. For some reason I checked back in this evening and am truly amazed at what your doing!

Posted by: mepstein Nov 18 2016, 06:06 AM

Way to go! Great save whatever it becomes.

Posted by: 914forme Nov 18 2016, 06:18 AM

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Posted by: Porschef Nov 18 2016, 06:26 AM

WOW!!! w00t.gif

Worth saving just because it's Ravenna green... Great skills, I like the rear flare shape. Dig the homemade stands too.

Having that most precious of commodities should have you making rapid progress weekly; keep the posts coming. beer.gif

Posted by: RobW Nov 18 2016, 06:42 AM

Check this out
https://flyermotorwerks.com

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 18 2016, 11:41 AM

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Hi again folks.
I thought I was doing OK,until I checked out your link,Rob.This one is going to be covered in bondo and paint,thats for sure.Well,Mr. Krieger.I have been nuts for many years now and turning insane if I can't pull this of.
New day tomorrow...hope I learn something from this.

Posted by: mbseto Nov 18 2016, 01:06 PM

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...Well,Mr. Krieger.I have been nuts for many years now and turning insane if I can't pull this of.


You may have found your tribe...

This looks awesome, keep 'em coming!!

Posted by: restore2seater Nov 18 2016, 02:30 PM

Since you're using aluminum for the skin how are you going to attach the skin to the steel structure?

Using some type of epoxy to bond the skin?
Are you welding or brazing? Using something like this. http://alumasteeltigrod.com/

Or, after further thought, am I way out in left field and the skins will be attached with some type of mechanical fasteners?

Posted by: daytona Nov 18 2016, 03:18 PM

Wow, I am impressed with the ambition and skill.
I have an old 914 rust bucket that I hate to cut up and scrap. But I thought that it was too far gone to realistically save. After looking at what you are doing I realize that my car is not as bad as I thought. Now I have to think of something interesting to do with it.
Good luck with your project and please keep us posted. We all love to see what others do with their cars particularly a project such as yours. May the force be with you.
Bill.

Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 18 2016, 05:26 PM

Serious panel beating skills! smash.gif

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 20 2016, 05:13 AM

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I'm thinking of folding the alu skin around the steel structure.Also using aircraft rivets ,but under the windshield I was planning to epoxy it to the steel.
Working on the structure today for the front fenders....wasn't good enough.

Do you know what kind of wheels this is?They are only marked with the size,9x15.
They were on a Porsche that came from Sweden in the eighties.
I have four of them,but need two that are 7x15 in front.
Tried to order from group4wheels,but they don't answer.....

Posted by: jmitro Nov 20 2016, 08:19 AM

amazing!
serious metal fab skills!

Posted by: Bartlett 914 Nov 20 2016, 08:42 AM

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WOW! I saw your first post days ago and I did not want to comment. I thought you were nuts and that car was too far gone. For some reason I checked back in this evening and am truly amazed at what your doing!

I am with Andy on this one. I am glad I stopped back and looked again. Looks like this will be a fun thread to watch.
It is nice to see progress. It would also be nice to see more of the fabrication processes you are using. It is clear you have considerable skills. Seeing more on how you are getting panels formed would be a nice learning experience.

Thanks for sharing

Posted by: 914forme Nov 20 2016, 09:26 AM

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I do see an English wheel. But most other items in your shop look like items most of us would also have.

I am just a fabricator, bend cut weld, no shaping skills what so ever dry.gif

Love watching people who do though keep it coming piratenanner.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 20 2016, 09:34 AM

Nice progress!

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 20 2016, 11:16 AM

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Do you know what kind of wheels this is?They are only marked with the size,9x15.
They were on a Porsche that came from Sweden in the eighties.
I have four of them,but need two that are 7x15 in front.
Tried to order from group4wheels,but they don't answer.....


Campagnolo wheels, Yes grp 4 makes replica's of them..

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Posted by: fordb132 Nov 21 2016, 08:20 AM

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Rewelded the engine mount so it cleared the shifting mechanism that I also had to reweld to clear the homemade headers.....thats the way it is with backyard engineering.
Made a new ,old style?,steering wheel from a 4 mm stainless plate.I'm not sure if I like it yet.Dressing it up in leather later and adding a small Porsche decal i center.
Project got a name....Mighty Tiny.Thats the only thing thats fit perfect today..

Posted by: Krieger Nov 21 2016, 09:28 AM

Wow again! I have never seen anyone make their own steering wheel. I like it!

Posted by: Cuda911 Nov 22 2016, 03:00 AM

Fun project to watch... keep us posted... love the steering wheel!

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 22 2016, 11:54 AM

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I have a homemade wheeling machine,the old,english,silent fellow in the corner and a bead roller.
The rest is homemade small stuff.Tryuing to do things with simple tools the old way.
Made some parts today too.Trying to bring a bit of sixties feeling into this -73 Porsche.
Sad to say but the dashboard was cut out,so I'm using the 911 dash.Moved the glovebox lid hinge in one inch as I don't have a kneepad and keeping the dash clean.Made some panels...maybe too bright and covers to the rockers in the same material....SS 316.
Rear brakeshields was rusted away...new ones in alu.
The 914 dash would have suited the car much better.
Reshaping the instrument bowl later so it will contain 3 instruments only.


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Posted by: falcor75 Nov 23 2016, 12:11 AM

Keep the five instrument holes and use the ones you want and just put a blanking plate in any unused one. Later on you might want to add a gauge and then you'll have a spare space for it without redoing the entire dash. smile.gif

Posted by: Porschef Nov 23 2016, 05:34 AM

At this clip, you should be done right around Christmas... beerchug.gif santa_smiley.gif

Posted by: CptTripps Nov 23 2016, 10:43 AM

I think a lot of people were rolling their eyes at what you were setting off to accomplish, based on what you were starting with.

.....and absolutely nobody is rolling their eyes now!

Keep it up!

Posted by: Chris Pincetich Nov 23 2016, 11:55 AM

This is very fun to watch! Thank you for sharing all the great work and inspiration beerchug.gif
If you weren't so far away, we would be visiting in person drooley.gif beer3.gif

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Posted by: fordb132 Nov 24 2016, 10:06 AM

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That gas pedal is made from 2 mm ss,glued a piece from the remains of the original pedal in the back so I could use the accelerator rod.Make a copy,Chris.
Working with the doors now.Moved the A-pillars in 25 mm and the upper hinges down 50 mm.Don't know how it will turn out....
Seems there are few norwegian members on this forum.I expected some creative criticism from Sunroad,at least.
Falcor...Gasoline Magazine has finally got their eyes open for classic Porsche so I think your car should be in the next issue......?

Posted by: MrsWannaB Nov 24 2016, 12:46 PM

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Seems there are few norwegian members on this forum.I expected some creative criticism from Sunroad,at least.

Well, I can reassure you, Sunroad is watching from a corner of your virtual workshop. Humbly impressed as usual, in this case to silence.
However, unike most others in here, I'm not surprised by what you can do.

When it comes to creative criticism, I'm sure you have it all under control. You can give that steering wheel to Cuda or Krieger, but beyond that, your artwork is no less than stunning, my friend. You are the obvious winner of the title Mr 914 Norway 2017.

Posted by: plymouth37 Nov 24 2016, 02:25 PM

Great work! You have some serious metal working skills! welder.gif sawzall-smiley.gif

Posted by: Rand Nov 24 2016, 02:30 PM

No "rolling eyes" here. Just admiration for your work Get it done!

Posted by: porschetub Nov 25 2016, 12:31 AM

IMO op had everybody fooled....including myself,wow what are we seeing now,would give my left nut to fab like this so clever,a dying art in these days really great.

Posted by: Harpo Nov 25 2016, 08:21 AM

I'm very pleased to you saving this 914. Your metal working skills are phenomenal.

Keep up the good work

BTW I love that your going to skin this in aluminum

David

Posted by: el fandango Nov 25 2016, 11:32 AM

Hi from Norway



Im so glade that people around the world can se your work


you are steel-wood-leather-engine-paint Man

you are everything



Posted by: fordb132 Nov 28 2016, 10:47 AM

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Thanks for the comments,guys and gal.Working on door gaps today.
I have a bottle of Jameson on the shelf ready for the first trip outside to get a view from a little more than 1,5 meter.If this thing doesn't look the way it should,I'm planning to cut it into three parts again... after way to much whiskey.
That chunk of metal is the channel beneath the pedals that was filled with steel.
Engine lid grille is made from original parts....the distances are made from 914 pushrods.


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Posted by: fordb132 Nov 28 2016, 10:59 AM

Forgot to say that if I scrap the body,the only thing I will keep is of course the steering wheel....

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Forgot to say that if I scrap the body,the only thing I will keep is of course the steering wheel....

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Posted by: fordb132 Nov 29 2016, 06:22 AM

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To get some practice with the material I made some air-scoops for the engine lid.Using them raw riveted over the paint when that day comes.....or punch some rows with louvers.

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To get some practice with the material I made some air-scoops for the engine lid.Using them raw riveted over the paint when that day comes.....or punch some rows with louvers.


I love your work, would still love to see, what your using to form these.

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 29 2016, 07:28 AM

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The old lady next door had a piece from a garden fence lying that I brought home while walking past.Put it in a vice and formed the end half-round and lots of careful hammering and a short TIG weld up to the top.
Would have been better to make a hammerform to hammer it into.
I was only making two,so I didn't take the time to make one of those.

Posted by: Krieger Nov 29 2016, 08:28 AM

Nice! You have excellent imagination and fab skills! I may need a scoop like that.

Posted by: 914forme Nov 29 2016, 09:55 AM

So did you cut a wedge out of the rounded end, and Big and hammer weld that back into place or did you shrink the piece. Or seriously stretch it all.

Oh BTW, thank you, I have hammer formed stuff also, yours is much prettier than mine.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 29 2016, 10:10 AM

Do you have a 4 cyl. 1932 Ford ?

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 29 2016, 11:21 AM

I do have with flathead 8.

Posted by: MrsWannaB Nov 30 2016, 07:47 AM

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Forgot to say that if I scrap the body,the only thing I will keep is of course the steering wheel....


I'm sorry I insulted your steering wheel.
But I can make it up to you: You don't have to cut the car into three pieces again - I can just pick it up, in one piece, and help you get rid of it. Best of all: I'll do it for free!
Just tell me when.
You can of course keep the steering wheel.

On reflection, you are the only guy I know whom I could ask to help me finish this great project... So, uh, you better just stay away from that blended malt. Buy a bag-in-box of Corvina Verona instead (darn good!), stay calm no matter how the car looks from more than 1,5 meters away, and keep up the good work. You rule!

But no expectations, of course. None whatsoever.

Posted by: Frankvw Nov 30 2016, 08:16 AM

"Engine lid grille is made from original parts....the distances are made from 914 pushrods." - your skills are very impressive. But you also have great imagination/ideas. This is a powerful combo. Really good work.

Posted by: fordb132 Nov 30 2016, 12:23 PM

914 Forme...Yes I rolled a cylinder,cut into two halves and did it the way you describe with no shrink or stretch.Just a lucky day.

Steering wheel looks dull in the crappy pics,but it has potential,I think.
You can have the car when I'm finished,if not satisfied.
Been through a few Verona's.

Working on the rear end body.....waiting for the chess to start.

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I do have with flathead 8.


Ah ha !
Your avatar gave me a clue. Attached is a pic of one of my projects (a 276" flatty in a '32 highboy)
Your skills are amazing.
I'm like others here, saw your starting point and what you said you were going to do.
I said to myself, 'Oh yeah sure, another crazy dream'
Wow !
Great work.


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Posted by: fordb132 Dec 6 2016, 10:36 AM

Hi again.Some pics of my V8 you find here,rgalia:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/norwegian-blacksmiths-36-coupe.222004/page-9.
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Some more lousy pics from my project.Would have been easier for me making it in steel,it turns out.Can't complain as I have been bragging about all the spare time I got....
Starting up front tomorrow,I think.Waiting for a new silencer so I can finish the lower bottom of the alu above the exhaust.
Whats you verdict...I have a bad taste of whiskey in my mouth.

Posted by: porschetub Dec 6 2016, 11:47 AM

Disregard all the other clever bodywork I've ever seen ,this one sets a new standard,how you can do this is nothing short of amazing.
I vote custom build of the year smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif .

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 6 2016, 12:26 PM

Saw the first post and chalked this up to another dreamer. Had me fooled!

Amazing metalwork! You must be retired because the pace that you are working at is amazing!

Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 6 2016, 02:43 PM

Simply remarkable work.

I went back and reviewed this thread from the beginning and realized no one had asked about the Porsche six shown in some of the early fab pics. What size is that? Was it included in the package for $300?

Here's hoping you have plenty of heat in your shop. Rock on!

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Posted by: Louiscurtis Dec 7 2016, 06:04 AM

Very Very Cool!!!
Really want to see a picture from further back.

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No the engine is a 2,0 that I want to put into the golden 914 and it was not part of the deal.For 300 usd I got the title and a shell.I have a 2,4 with webers that is going into this creation.
No,I'm not retired...the workshop is,dough.I bought from an american cabinet maker as a young man in 1990 and it's warm enough if you keep yourself a little busy.
Working on the hood ,now...

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 9 2016, 05:00 AM

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Looks like a disaster so far but thats a nice challenge.Going to do it differently on the other side,thats for sure.No scrapped alu sheet so far....

Posted by: Porschef Dec 9 2016, 05:27 AM

Still trying to figure out how ten guys can fit/work in that shop... shades.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: billh1963 Dec 9 2016, 07:27 AM

I've followed a lot of build threads over the years on this and other forums. This has to be one of the most interesting ones I have seen!

Posted by: rdauenhauer Dec 9 2016, 09:00 AM

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Posted by: stownsen914 Dec 9 2016, 11:02 AM

Excellent project!

I'm a little late to this party, but in reading the first post, I see you got the 911 roof from Brians Machine Service here in the US (and not too far from me, as it turns out).

Can't wait to see this project continue to evolve!

Scott

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 13 2016, 03:46 AM

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Exciting times.....

Posted by: Frankvw Dec 13 2016, 05:50 AM

you.handmade.a.doorskin.in.less.time.than.to.order.one
ok....enough fun.... how many people really work on this car ??? this is unbelievable.

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 13 2016, 06:19 AM

I don't think you can order any metal parts for this model...

It's just me,my restless soul and occasionally a bottle of good redwine.

Posted by: mbseto Dec 13 2016, 08:11 AM

As I look at that door skin, I'm guessing each one of those striations is a micro-bend from your brake. Are you going back and checking against the frame after each bend or just winging it?

Posted by: blackmoon Dec 13 2016, 10:47 AM

Simply amazing, great work taking on a rust bucket that would have surely seen its way quickly to the scrap yard, congrats

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As I look at that door skin, I'm guessing each one of those striations is a micro-bend from your brake. Are you going back and checking against the frame after each bend or just winging it?

I would assume it is from the english wheel. No way to get a smooth curve using a brake,

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It's just me,my restless soul and occasionally a bottle of good redwine.

Poetic…

What are you going to do with the body afterwards? Could you keep the metal bare? It looks extremely good. I know aluminum corrodes, but it’s not as damaging as rust is to steel, is it?

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 13 2016, 02:28 PM

Hi all and thanks for the comments everybody.Yes you are right about that,Mbseto.
I put a 2,5 degree bend every cm and that made a gentle curve that was just right for the body sides.Nearly impossible to feel when you run your hand over.
Happy with this solution.....for a change.
Mrs.B,I have to put some paint on as the roof is steel,remember.I usually paint everything sparkling gold,but that bucket is nearly empty now.Got a new one standing in the corner and this one is Ice-Blue metallic.I will of course go absolutely mad when I start painting in the wood shed.Can't stop until there are some fugly stripes etc....

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Do you know what kind of wheels this is?They are only marked with the size,9x15.
They were on a Porsche that came from Sweden in the eighties.
I have four of them,but need two that are 7x15 in front.
Tried to order from group4wheels,but they don't answer.....



Did you get an answer on this? I didn't see it while reviewing this impressive (!) thread. Those look like Campagnolo wheels.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/what-wheels-are-these/40471/page1/

Greetings and compliments from California!

Posted by: MrsWannaB Dec 13 2016, 02:52 PM

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Mrs.B,I have to put some paint on as the roof is steel,remember.I usually paint everything sparkling gold,but that bucket is nearly empty now.Got a new one standing in the corner and this one is Ice-Blue metallic.I will of course go absolutely mad when I start painting in the wood shed.Can't stop until there are some fugly stripes etc....

Oh, I forgot about the roof... Almost a pity to cover up that beautiful metal.
(But you could just make a new roof, couldn't you?!)

I'm really looking forward to see that Ice-Blue metallic. Don't forget to add some dandelion seeds.

Posted by: Mueller Dec 13 2016, 04:40 PM

Wow, that is a lot of work, great work i might add!

Cannot wait to see the finished project.

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 14 2016, 11:56 AM

Attached Image Attached ImageCoffee and speed on the menu today musically wise.Got several visitors today in my workshop.Drinking coffee and looking at their cellphones...talking about the weather.None of them commented the project at all.
Gotta find a more exciting project next time.....

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Coffee and speed on the menu today musically wise.Got several visitors today in my workshop.Drinking coffee and looking at their cellphones...talking about the weather.None of them commented the project at all.
Gotta find a more exciting project next time.....

Or, perhaps, gotta find more exciting visitors next time ....

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Or, perhaps, gotta find more exciting visitors next time ....

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Next time i'm in your neighborhood, i'll swing by and talk cars with you ...
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Posted by: billh1963 Dec 14 2016, 02:31 PM

You may have covered this; but, what is your background? You have some serious metal skills that have probably taken years to acquire.

That is some beautiful work. I'm not an expert by any means. However, I recognize skill when I see it!

Posted by: MrsWannaB Dec 14 2016, 02:55 PM

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Coffee and speed on the menu today

Well, I guess this could have explained your unbelieveable progress, if it hadn't been for the fact that you were talking about music.

The car looks fabulous. Even I'm a bit surprised again, by what you can actually do. Wish I could have seen you working.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 14 2016, 03:21 PM

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I fully support you turning this car, or the pieces of it, into a 904, or just about anything you want!

I do not, however, support cutting up race cars with pedigree to turn them into 904s, or otherwise. poke.gif (you'll hear more about that story I'm sure, but in the meantime, welcome! The gold car looks really cool too!)


What a contrast.
This is an almost unbelievable display of talent being performed on a chassis that anyone else would have considered absolute junk.
On the other hand there is solid race car with some very redeeming virtues (and history) being converted into ?

Posted by: Krieger Dec 14 2016, 06:56 PM

welder.gif Behold! A door! welder.gif Behold! A fender! You are very talented and do amazing work. With these skills you could have a job in quite a few places in the states.

Posted by: siverson Dec 14 2016, 07:00 PM

Wow it's only been a month...

-Steve

Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 16 2016, 09:36 AM

I encourage anyone following this thread to visit the link found at post #74
Geir is a hotrodder of unbelievable talent.
Turn a '37 Ford Fordor into a Woody ? no problem. STARTED WITH ASH LOGS ! oh, yeah, no blueprints either.
'36 Ford 3 window coupe ? no problem, start with a sedan and whatever else you can find.
Check out the Indian bike from the '30s....with an air cooled 4cyl. NSU car engine.

Posted by: jd74914 Dec 16 2016, 09:40 AM

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I read through it earlier this week and that thread is amazing! This thread is amazing! I'm just in awe of the shear talent here and love seeing progress pictures. smile.gif

Posted by: mbseto Dec 20 2016, 09:38 AM

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I'm just in awe of the shear talent here...


And especially the brake talent!!

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 24 2016, 06:53 AM

Had an accident like Bambi on ice and hurt my already aking shoulder so my right hand has only been hanging there for a week.Finally able to start up again and hammer some metal.
I have a question....where can I get the hardware to mount the rear brake pads??

Started on the tail section.Big,important part of the build.When I get this one tacked together it's time to put on some wheels and push it outside to get a look from a long distance.Probably a month too late.....

Happy Holidays to all.

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There are more rusty hulks like this ,so I hope someone else starts 904 lookalike projects

Posted by: mb911 Dec 24 2016, 07:02 AM

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Dec 24 2016, 04:53 AM) *

Had an accident like Bambi on ice and hurt my already aking shoulder so my right hand has only been hanging there for a week.Finally able to start up again and hammer some metal.
I have a question....where can I get the hardware to mount the rear brake pads??

Started on the tail section.Big,important part of the build.When I get this one tacked together it's time to put on some wheels and push it outside to get a look from a long distance.Probably a month too late.....

Happy Holidays to all.
There are more rusty hulks like this ,so I hope someone else starts 904 lookalike projects



Looks great you may have people pay you to fix their rusty cars and convert them..

Posted by: 914forme Dec 24 2016, 08:10 AM

Eric at http://www.pmbperformance.com/teener.html can get you any piece of brake hardware you may need.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 24 2016, 08:26 AM

Can't wait to see it outside.
But really, everything you've done so far shows you have an outstanding sense
of proportion and interpretation of the 904 shape.
Unbelievable.

Posted by: Rleog Dec 24 2016, 09:14 AM

Amazing. Simply amazing.

God Jul

Posted by: Shadowfax Dec 24 2016, 11:20 AM

Beautiful work. Looking forward to more updates.

Posted by: jmitro Dec 24 2016, 11:50 AM

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Or, perhaps, gotta find more exciting visitors next time ....


agree.gif Any real car guy/gal would be seriously impressed with this project.

This has got to be one of the most epic builds on the internet. beerchug.gif

Posted by: daytona Dec 24 2016, 02:59 PM

I agree. Incredible fabricating talent.

Posted by: Cuda911 Dec 24 2016, 03:36 PM

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You may have covered this; but, what is your background? You have some serious metal skills that have probably taken years to acquire.

That is some beautiful work. I'm not an expert by any means. However, I recognize skill when I see it!


I've been wondering the same.... where/how did you learn to do all this fab work?

Posted by: Perry Kiehl Dec 24 2016, 07:53 PM

So do you have a 904 to pattern from? This is amazing work!

Posted by: wndsnd Dec 24 2016, 10:46 PM

Truly amazing work, Another fantastic build thread from overseas.

Remember that other build that was being done by the pilot? Imagine these two guys sitting around sharing glass of wine thinking up projects.......

Thank you fordb132 for sharing your work.

Posted by: fordb132 Dec 25 2016, 02:50 AM

Thanks for the words....forgot to tell about my background.
My first job was as a mechanic for a mining company.After that I was a welder/mechanic/electrician for the offshore industry.My last job was tube-fitter in theNorth-sea.
Always been wrenching on something.Started with VW type 1 and old style hot-rods.
I prefer low-budget projects with a challenge.Got a bit tired of the lack of creativity in the
street-rods....Porsche looked fun.
When you google 904, the blue print,side view from 1963 pops-up.I don't have any measurements as this is only based on the 904, adjusted to fit a 914 chassis and 911 top.Just trying to catch the 904 styling.My kind of cheap fun.I could never afford a 904 replica and I don't like glassfibre cars...

Posted by: nein14 Dec 25 2016, 08:38 AM

Your skills are amazing!!

Posted by: Krieger Dec 25 2016, 10:19 AM

You may already know this, but you could make a decent living doing this.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 5 2017, 12:51 PM

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Ahhh,the holidays are over and getting something done on this little bastard.Hoping to do the last welds on the tail tomorrow.Planning to work a little on the chassis soon.Easier to move it around when its drivable,but still waiting for the transmission to arrive from Florida.

Posted by: altitude411 Jan 5 2017, 01:16 PM

absolutely beautiful work first.gif

Posted by: MrsWannaB Jan 5 2017, 01:33 PM

I just needed a little reminder....
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This is taken just a few months ago. Crazy. You, that is.

Posted by: flat4guy Jan 5 2017, 07:25 PM

The metal work is awesome, I only wish I had a quarter of that talent......

Posted by: Krieger Jan 5 2017, 09:22 PM

Stunning!

Posted by: bigkensteele Jan 5 2017, 10:47 PM

I really hope that I am wrong, but I can't help but think that we are being punked here.

Posted by: toms914 Jan 5 2017, 11:06 PM

Turn it in a limo stretch it uot

Posted by: ThePaintedMan Jan 6 2017, 06:35 AM

This truly is stunning - not only the quality of the work, but how fast you work as well! I'm utterly impressed.

If the other guy cutting up a perfectly good racecar to make a 904 ends up with something half as decent, I'd be astonished.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 6 2017, 06:42 AM

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jan 5 2017, 11:47 PM) *

I really hope that I am wrong, but I can't help but think that we are being punked here.


In what way?

Posted by: RobW Jan 6 2017, 08:32 AM

This thread is like Christmas! Keep up the great work! first.gif

Posted by: mepstein Jan 6 2017, 08:34 AM

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Jan 6 2017, 07:42 AM) *

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jan 5 2017, 11:47 PM) *

I really hope that I am wrong, but I can't help but think that we are being punked here.


In what way?

Seems very well documented and legit.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 6 2017, 09:40 AM


Punked ? He is doing these things himself.
In a time frame.
None of us can do these things ....in any time frame.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 6 2017, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 6 2017, 09:34 AM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Jan 6 2017, 07:42 AM) *

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jan 5 2017, 11:47 PM) *

I really hope that I am wrong, but I can't help but think that we are being punked here.


In what way?

Seems very well documented and legit.


That was my thought.

He apparently has a history of quality metal work and you can clearly see the 914 chassis under the new "904" sheet metal. I'm curious what bigkensteele is seeing that causes him concern?

Posted by: 2mAn Jan 6 2017, 11:03 AM

unbelievable...

Posted by: 11tenths Jan 6 2017, 11:50 AM

So, he's from Norway, worked for a mining company, then worked offshore in the North Sea... sounds like a Viking Blacksmith! smash.gif

-Harry

Posted by: KELTY360 Jan 6 2017, 11:57 AM

QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Jan 6 2017, 04:35 AM) *

If the other guy cutting up a perfectly good racecar to make a 904 ends up with something half as decent, I'd be astonished.


Give it a rest. This incredible thread has nothing whatsoever to do with your issue.

Posted by: zipedadoo Jan 6 2017, 01:00 PM

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Jan 6 2017, 09:05 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 6 2017, 09:34 AM) *

QUOTE(billh1963 @ Jan 6 2017, 07:42 AM) *

QUOTE(bigkensteele @ Jan 5 2017, 11:47 PM) *

I really hope that I am wrong, but I can't help but think that we are being punked here.


In what way?

Seems very well documented and legit.


That was my thought.

He apparently has a history of quality metal work and you can clearly see the 914 chassis under the new "904" sheet metal. I'm curious what bigkensteele is seeing that causes him concern?



Go back to the first page. The first picture is of a rusted out 914, two days later is has suspension, tires, and a 911 roof welded on. That's a lot of work in 2 days. I don't think we are seeing this built in real time, at least not the beginning of the build.

I don't care one way or the other.

Fact is the builder has skills and it is an epic build. Carry on.....

Posted by: jd74914 Jan 6 2017, 01:32 PM

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Go back to the first page. The first picture is of a rusted out 914, two days later is has suspension, tires, and a 911 roof welded on. That's a lot of work in 2 days. I don't think we are seeing this built in real time, at least not the beginning of the build.

I don't care one way or the other.

Fact is the builder has skills and it is an epic build. Carry on.....


One of the following posts stated that the first image was a few months before the roof/welded together chassis because he wanted to make sure he could save the car before posting. smile.gif

Can't wait to see a picture of the body outside from further away! The proportions looks really good.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 6 2017, 01:48 PM

QUOTE(jd74914 @ Jan 6 2017, 11:32 AM) *
The proportions looks really good.

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Posted by: jmill Jan 6 2017, 04:17 PM

Beautiful! At this rate you're going to wear out the bearings on your English wheel.

Posted by: ablesnead Jan 6 2017, 04:21 PM

I wonder why he needed the chassis at all

Posted by: jmill Jan 6 2017, 04:23 PM

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I wonder why he needed the chassis at all


The only reason I can think of is the title.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 6 2017, 07:44 PM

QUOTE(ablesnead @ Jan 6 2017, 05:21 PM) *

I wonder why he needed the chassis at all


Designing, building and tuning a chassis from scratch would be a herculean task for just one person. Building around a proven chassis makes perfect sense.

Posted by: ablesnead Jan 6 2017, 08:15 PM

I think the back handed compliment of my previous post was that what to many of us would consider herculean...he wouldn't

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 7 2017, 06:16 AM

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Punked,or not.I made wire screens for the air intakes today and some other small stuff.They are removable from the inside.Working on moving the air scoops closer to the body.They are midsize between the early and late models,in my opinion.The 914 chassis is perfect for a build like this and keeps it Porsche ??Makes it simpler to get license plates on it if I want to drive it...

Posted by: mepstein Jan 7 2017, 07:32 AM

fordb132 - Epic build. Thank you for sharing!

Posted by: sb914 Jan 7 2017, 08:57 AM

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fordb132 - Epic build. Thank you for sharing!

agree.gif your the man!

Posted by: Krieger Jan 7 2017, 09:41 AM

Did the cars originally have a screen in there? I wouldn't know. What purpose do the scoops serve? I used a screen almost exactly like that in front of my oil cooler in the front of my track car. It was so extremely restrictive that my oil temps were way too hot. Like 250*F! I would have to get off the track. I removed the screen and the temp dropped 40*F my next runs. I ended up making another screen with material that had 1/2" openings that has done it job extremely well without causing any noticeable restrictions.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 7 2017, 10:05 AM

You are right,Krieger.I have seen one pic of the inside of the original 904 hood, and it was a hole with a 3-4" diameter.
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Posted by: Rleog Jan 7 2017, 04:28 PM

No race tracks in Norway. Can you tell us what the penalties are for speeding in Norway?

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 9 2017, 03:58 AM

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I live up north in rural Norway and haven't gotten any speeding tickets for some time....I'm an old Ford guy,you know.Last time I got one it saved my life.Driving at night with my -32 Ford in southern Norway I was awakened by the blitz light from the automatic speed camera.
Did some job on the nose. I'm looking for a 914 trunk light....the Samba people won't send out of USA....anyone have a spare??

Posted by: falcor75 Jan 9 2017, 04:36 AM

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I'm looking for a 914 trunk light....the Samba people won't send out of USA....anyone have a spare??


I can check my spare parts bin when I get home, I think I had one in there...

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 9 2017, 05:39 AM

Hi Geir
I've got those lamps if you can't source them locally.
Rory
......and good afternoon too

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 9 2017, 09:43 AM

This 904 needs a icon_bump.gif

Posted by: falcor75 Jan 9 2017, 11:57 AM

I checked my boxes and sadly I cant find it. I replaced mine as the glass had a small crack in it but I thought I'd kept the old one still.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 14 2017, 08:28 AM

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Had a great Calvados hangover today,so I skinned the other door and pushed El Cheapo outside so I could sweep over the workshop floor.The woman living next door said it was looking fine.So then its approved around here,at least.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 14 2017, 08:30 AM

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When I see the pics...I'm not sure.
Well,well.Anybody volunteer to cut the holes for the headlights?

Posted by: mepstein Jan 14 2017, 08:56 AM

WOW!

Posted by: Krieger Jan 14 2017, 09:07 AM

Beautiful! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Mueller Jan 14 2017, 09:10 AM

I'm impressed for sure!

Posted by: Bartlett 914 Jan 14 2017, 09:40 AM

Well it is looking really fantastic.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 14 2017, 09:44 AM

QUOTE(Bartlett 914 @ Jan 14 2017, 09:40 AM) *

Well it is looking really fantastic.


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Posted by: Cracker Jan 14 2017, 10:00 AM

Really amazing craftsmanship...you mention it potentially being "raced" someday. Would you actually race it in a historic series or what we call here in the US "track days" Looking forward to seeing the progress...

Tony

Posted by: sb914 Jan 14 2017, 10:06 AM

pray.gif incredible proportions! amazing! drooley.gif
And you started this thread two months ago

Posted by: Shadowfax Jan 14 2017, 10:14 AM

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Jan 14 2017, 08:28 AM) *

The woman living next door said it was looking fine.So then its approved around here,at least.

Always nice when the neighbors approve! Car is looking good. Glad I'm not the one cutting holes for the headlights. smash.gif sawzall-smiley.gif

Posted by: poorsche914 Jan 14 2017, 10:44 AM

Hope you don't mind... I did a quick color correction.

Amazing craftsmanship! drooley.gif

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Posted by: Garold Shaffer Jan 14 2017, 11:00 AM

smiley_notworthy.gif simply amazing. Now this is a nice car!

Posted by: mbseto Jan 15 2017, 12:01 AM

Fantastic. Easy to forget it has 914 bones, cool to see it and remember that it does.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 15 2017, 05:40 AM

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No,Tony,this is going to be more like a grocery getter kinda touring car,if I get plates on it.If not it will probably end up as garden art.....
Early sunday morning fun cutting up the body for the headlights.

Posted by: altitude411 Jan 15 2017, 12:17 PM

Thank you for finding this forum and posting such a fantastic thread! Your are a metal artist of the finest caliber. first.gif
I hope your efforts are rewarded with the ability to "go grocery shopping" but if that doesn't come to fruition I have no doubt that you could easily find a buyer to cash you out... Thanks again, very enjoyable to watch a master craftsman at work. shades.gif

Posted by: Andyrew Jan 16 2017, 09:57 AM

Ok we all know you have miracle hands for metal, but what are you going to do for the headlights? Form fit plexiglass? Or do you have headlight housings?

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 16 2017, 10:31 AM

Attached Image I don't have anything.Make it as I go in a way.Nothing fits anyway....Any suggestions? I was thinking of making "glasses"in alu and shaping polycarbonate with heat arrond them.

Posted by: Andyrew Jan 16 2017, 10:48 AM

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Jan 16 2017, 08:31 AM) *

Attached Image I don't have anything.Make it as I go in a way.Nothing fits anyway....Any suggestions? I was thinking of making "glasses"in alu and shaping polycarbonate with heat arrond them.


Maybe a wood mold and form plexiglass around it with heat, attach with riv nuts?

Posted by: sb914 Jan 16 2017, 10:52 AM

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Posted by: 914_teener Jan 16 2017, 10:54 AM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jan 16 2017, 08:48 AM) *

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Jan 16 2017, 08:31 AM) *

Attached Image I don't have anything.Make it as I go in a way.Nothing fits anyway....Any suggestions? I was thinking of making "glasses"in alu and shaping polycarbonate with heat arrond them.


Maybe a wood mold and form plexiglass around it with heat, attach with riv nuts?



If know someone who does vacuum forming those peices can be made.

Polycarbonate......yikes. acrylic no problem.

Posted by: BillC Jan 16 2017, 11:18 AM

This truly fantastic. I love watching this come together.

A suggestion for making the headlight lenses/covers. You'll need to heat or vacuum form them, to get the right shape. But, instead of making a left mold and a right mold, make one mold for both lenses, and then slice the molded plastic down the middle to separate the two lenses. Since both sides should be symmetrical, you'll only have to make one mold -- should be easy to do out of wood. And, the heated plastic should be less likely to stick to the wood than to aluminum.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 16 2017, 11:53 AM

I like the older style than the blue ,very nice car looking very expensive.
I do have nearly two molds from the pieces I cut out.
Have to read about the different types of acrylic,plexi....haven't thought so much of it yet.Acrylic is easier to form,stronger,don't scratch easy???
Thanks for advice.Never tried it before.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 16 2017, 12:05 PM

You should be able to make a vacuum form and pull in Plexiglas fairly easy. I made a quick and dirty vacuum form for a fan shroud once. Simple box with a shape on the inside. You can make the shape, drill it full of little holes so the suction pulls it into the shape of the form. You may need more than a heat gun though.

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Posted by: fordb132 Jan 17 2017, 04:00 AM

Thanks for the tips,Rick.I will try polycarbonate first.I have made simple things with that earlier and liked the opportunities it has.
Got a parcel in my mailbox today.Thanks a lot to Rory and his wife for sending it.
That decal is going on the car,for sure.

Posted by: MrsWannaB Jan 17 2017, 07:53 AM

Very nice to see the car is still in one piece. It looks great.
I saw a photo of you by the car as well the other day, and I must say you looked quite content too.

Have you had any preliminary dialogue with the vehicle licensing office yet? I’m eager to hear what they say. Not that I’ve ever doubted you’ll get plates on that car, but it will be interesting to see how smooth it goes.

Posted by: mbseto Jan 17 2017, 08:06 AM

I had a buddy of mine make a curved clear plastic shield for a prototype I was making at work. He made a mold the same way he did for fiberglass, i.e. out of wood, but then coated in bondo and sanded and polished to a high gloss. Sheet of plastic went into the oven (and I can't remember if it was acrylic or poly, nor the temperature...) then we pulled it out and layed it over the mold and let it cool. A lot of elbow grease went into the mold, but the process was simple.

Then again, the Datsun 240Z just left the headlight cuts open.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 17 2017, 11:50 AM

I wouldn't bother the local DMV with such minor adjustments as adding a steel roof,two extra cylinders,smaller trunk and different headlights.Other than that its an original 914,as I see it.
Mbsteo,I'm going to try something like that...should be doable.
Thanks for the support.
Now its Stout time in the Værste....workshop.

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 19 2017, 12:16 PM

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Starting to complete the tail with some finish welding and a lightweight trunk.Maybe now is the time for removing the engine and put some paint on the rear end of the chassis.

Posted by: jor Jan 26 2017, 07:14 PM

Am I the only one impatient for an update on this amazing build? It's almost like I need a weekly fix. Okay, not almost. I need a weekly fix. There. I said it.
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Thank you, 32 Ford, for sharing this with us!

Posted by: krazykonrad Jan 27 2017, 09:44 AM

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Am I the only one impatient for an update on this amazing build? It's almost like I need a weekly fix. Okay, not almost. I need a weekly fix. There. I said it.
icon_bump.gif
Thank you, 32 Ford, for sharing this with us!


Posted by: krazykonrad Jan 27 2017, 09:44 AM

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Posted by: mepstein Jan 27 2017, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Jan 17 2017, 12:50 PM) *

I wouldn't bother the local DMV with such minor adjustments as adding a steel roof,two extra cylinders,smaller trunk and different headlights.Other than that its an original 914,as I see it.

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It's just a 914 with a couple updates. Nothing to see here folks. Move along. biggrin.gif
The factory did a car with a steel roof and unique headlights. Must have been a rare option. Right?

Posted by: Front yard mechanic Jan 27 2017, 10:22 AM

Paint it ravena green I think someone is always looking for that color!

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jan 27 2017, 01:03 PM

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Paint it ravena green I think someone is always looking for that color!


Travesty! Polished aluminum!

Posted by: Chris H. Jan 27 2017, 04:44 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 27 2017, 10:15 AM) *

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Jan 17 2017, 12:50 PM) *

I wouldn't bother the local DMV with such minor adjustments as adding a steel roof,two extra cylinders,smaller trunk and different headlights.Other than that its an original 914,as I see it.

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It's just a 914 with a couple updates. Nothing to see here folks. Move along. biggrin.gif
The factory did a car with a steel roof and unique headlights. Must have been a rare option. Right?



Yeah it's just an old car that's been in an accident. He's doing the best he can to repair it with what he has available confused24.gif ?

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 30 2017, 06:34 AM

Attached Image Attached ImageAttached ImageBeen repairing a crashed -42 Harley that I delivered back to a happy owner a couple of days ago.Had to earn some money.....Food and wine,you know.In September I bought a side shift trans in the USA for this project.I found out recently that it wasn't even sent yet.I feel a bit punked myself.The good news is that I had a nearly empty side shift housing and a tail shifter that looked like junk.But when I decided to look inside the junky trans,it was like new.Nothing wrong at all and thanks to german engineers it was no problem to make one good trans out of the parts.
Hope to make the car drivable now.I installed the wiring too.No work on the body for a while.
Didn't know the rear control arms had hollow axle's.Cant be the only 914 in the world with rusted through axle....scary.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 30 2017, 09:19 AM

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Jan 30 2017, 07:34 AM) *

In September I bought a side shift trans in the USA for this project.I found out recently that it wasn't even sent yet.I feel a bit punked myself.


Did you buy the transmission from 914World or another site? if so, you need to call out the seller.

Posted by: billh1963 Jan 30 2017, 09:19 AM

duplicate post

Posted by: fordb132 Jan 30 2017, 03:54 PM

Yes,I bought it from this site,but he wouldn't send the trans outside USA.
So he sent it to Florida where its now at a little shipping agency.
Going to mount the engine/transmission into this Rural Outlaw tomorrow.Need an oil tank and some wires and fire it up????

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 1 2017, 12:24 PM

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Looks like it will be another golden Porsche.

Posted by: Cracker Feb 1 2017, 12:33 PM

Badass Geir!

Tony

Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 1 2017, 01:40 PM

Hello Geir
That was originally a mechanical fuel injection engine.
What is the engine type number ? 911/ ?....
Rory
oh yeah, as usual...... the work is incredible !

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 1 2017, 02:36 PM

Hi Rory.The engine type nr is 911/51 from a early -73 911T?

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 5 2017, 07:56 AM

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Ready to push the start button and the brakes are now working as they should with handbrake.

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 9 2017, 10:27 AM

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Aluminium is dangerous stuff...you get addicted....have to make at least one new part every day.The last is glovebox,engine cooling tin,puke tank and generator strap.Seems like I must do something with the springs in the rear.Lost too many kilos.Way too high at the moment.
Changed my mind about the color and bought a bucket of Ringebu-white.

Posted by: Krieger Feb 9 2017, 11:34 PM

Hey Geir. Can you post a picture of your muffler bracket? I have the stock muffler bracket with a muffler similar to yours and I want to add the straps to support the muffler in the center.

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 10 2017, 12:24 PM

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It's based on a 911 bracket and some stainless straps I made.The straps are not tightened up in the pic.

Posted by: Krieger Feb 10 2017, 07:15 PM

Thank you for posting that picture. So it looks like you do not have any other support for the exhaust? I guess this is how it is on the 911 I was thinking of welding some tabs to the 914 bracket and then use some straps. I have had a little cracking here and there on the exterior of the stock 911 muffler for my track car.

Posted by: porschetub Feb 10 2017, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Feb 2 2017, 09:36 AM) *

Hi Rory.The engine type nr is 911/51 from a early -73 911T?


Nice engine ,that year would make it a 2.4 ?,was it a T,E or S engine to start with?.
Would do you think the weight would be compared to a standard 914 ?......I would think much lighter ,going to be a quick little car.
I have peeled as much weight from mine as possible but added a six lump ,oil tank etc etc biggrin.gif .
You appear to have the advantage on power to weight here beer.gif .

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 11 2017, 03:30 AM

I haven't checked,but I think Rory said it was a 911T engine with MFI.
I took the engine apart and it was completely coaxed and no compression on three cylinders.I had Mahle cylinders with 2 mm larger bore and JE high comp pistons lying around.Some work on the heads and two new rocker shafts and it runs strong so far.
My plan was to have a MFI engine in this project,but carbs is OK.
No idea on the weight,but I suppose its a bit lighter.
Looks like that on the rear springs.....

Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 11 2017, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(fordb132 @ Feb 2 2017, 09:36 AM) *

Hi Rory.The engine type nr is 911/51 from a early -73 911T?


Nice engine ,that year would make it a 2.4 ?,was it a T,E or S engine to start with?.
Would do you think the weight would be compared to a standard 914 ?......I would think much lighter ,going to be a quick little car.
I have peeled as much weight from mine as possible but added a six lump ,oil tank etc etc biggrin.gif .
You appear to have the advantage on power to weight here beer.gif .


It's a 911/51 which is a MFI 2.4 T 130 hp ?

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The only thing nice with this bastard was the dashboard.Been looking at it for a couple of months now and I don't think it was right for this car so I cut it out.It has to get another look...sad to say.Lots of extra work.

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The only thing nice with this bastard was the dashboard.Been looking at it for a couple of months now and I don't think it was right for this car so I cut it out.It has to get another look...sad to say.Lots of extra work.

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Posted by: porschetub Feb 18 2017, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(porschetub @ Feb 10 2017, 09:21 PM) *

QUOTE(fordb132 @ Feb 2 2017, 09:36 AM) *

Hi Rory.The engine type nr is 911/51 from a early -73 911T?


Nice engine ,that year would make it a 2.4 ?,was it a T,E or S engine to start with?.
Would do you think the weight would be compared to a standard 914 ?......I would think much lighter ,going to be a quick little car.
I have peeled as much weight from mine as possible but added a six lump ,oil tank etc etc biggrin.gif .
You appear to have the advantage on power to weight here beer.gif .


It's a 911/51 which is a MFI 2.4 T 130 hp ?


I thought 140hp for that motor???

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 18 2017, 03:19 AM

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Posted by: fordb132 Feb 18 2017, 05:01 AM

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Posted by: Cracker Feb 18 2017, 05:50 AM

You have mad skills Geir (and that is a good thing)! I always enjoy seeing your updates!

Tony

Posted by: Bgyglfr Feb 18 2017, 11:24 AM

Wow! That is sone impressive work.

Posted by: totle Feb 21 2017, 06:03 AM

W O W :-)

Juste great. Read through the thread now.
What an amazing build, and here in Norway :-)

Hope to see this awesome build one day :-)

Now my 914-6 GT project seems like nothing compare to this :-)

Posted by: fordb132 Feb 21 2017, 06:37 AM

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Got a set of reflectors in the mail today and doing some interior work.The sewing machine have been resting long enough.

Posted by: Nomis71 Feb 21 2017, 02:57 PM

Fantastic buildthread. I am impressed.
Helt rått det du gjør. Håper du tar i mot besøk hvis man er forbi..
Hilsen fra annen 914 bygger..

Posted by: fordb132 Mar 2 2017, 06:57 AM

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Some more sewing today.The seats wasn't too easy.Hope I learnt something so the second one goes smoother.
The ugly steering wheel got a wrap of thick leather,too.Looks good now.

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Making some parts for my next project.Putting the 2.0 six into the golden 914.
Sanding and correcting the body....

Posted by: Porschef Mar 9 2017, 05:28 AM

Jesus...it's like Santa's workshop up there... santa_smiley.gif welder.gif sawzall-smiley.gif blowtorch.gif

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Jesus...it's like Santa's workshop up there... santa_smiley.gif welder.gif sawzall-smiley.gif blowtorch.gif


Being snowed in for 9 months of the year has its advantages... biggrin.gif

Posted by: fordb132 Mar 9 2017, 07:24 AM

Spring is coming up now...working with the workshop doors open today letting some sunshine in.

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 9 2017, 09:17 AM

I forgot to respond on the 2nd, but your sewing skills are awesome! What cant you do? smile.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 9 2017, 12:12 PM

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What cant you do? smile.gif

Sit still?
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Posted by: fordb132 Mar 27 2017, 06:19 AM

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You're into something there,Sir Andy.I have a lovely,comfy old armchair in my workshop.Belonged to the dog Ellabella.I have never sat in that chair......
Shooting some primer today and paint in the door openings.Do you recognize the paint booth?


Posted by: fordb132 Mar 31 2017, 11:31 AM

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Black Hole Paint Shop did it again.Let's brake out the booze and have a ball.
I have more paint so I can let it have a coat when the summer comes,but it went better than I expected.....

Posted by: mepstein Mar 31 2017, 11:47 AM

You get my vote for project of the year. pray.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 31 2017, 11:59 AM

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You get my vote for project of the year. pray.gif

POTY

Wait, that didn't sound right ...
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Posted by: Front yard mechanic Mar 31 2017, 12:30 PM

Didn't sound right but it sure does look right beer3.gif

Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 31 2017, 01:23 PM

So thankful you shared your skills on this forum. What an inspiration!

I've got to get me to an English-Wheel class!

Posted by: Millerwelds Mar 31 2017, 01:33 PM

Don't they have drugs smoke.gif or alcohol beer3.gif where you are? Good god man find some better way to waste your time. You're making us all look bad! Awesome project to follow. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 1 2017, 07:21 AM

Wow! That was a very nice way to start my day. Went through the entire thread and this just goes to show you that we have some people on this site with off-the-hook skills. That is just amazing X10. beerchug.gif

Posted by: altitude411 Apr 1 2017, 07:30 AM

Some guys watch it happen, some guys make it happen...and some guys wonder what the hell just happened.

I think you have made us just witness all three. first.gif

Incredible beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cracker Apr 1 2017, 07:36 AM

LOL! Well said...ditto!

Tony

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Some guys watch it happen, some guys make it happen...and some guys wonder what the hell just happened.

I think you have made us just witness all three. first.gif

Incredible beerchug.gif


Posted by: KELTY360 Apr 1 2017, 10:32 AM

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Attached Image Hi everybody from Norway.I'm starting a new project here as I found the remains of a 914 for 300 usd.It was cut into three parts to make it easier to bring it to the scrap yard.I lost my job,so I have plenty of time and less money.
This car has nearly nothing left of the outside body panels,so I feel free to make some fun out of it.There is very much structural rust to fix first and thanks to Brians Machine Service I have a 911 roof I want to weld on top of the 914 chassis.
This is a long term project I want to shear with you.I have a plan....
Lets put on some good music in the workshop and start up the welding machine.


Really?

Edit: after spending 10 minutes staring at door gaps and body contour alignment I had to go back to the 1st post in this thread for perspective. Unfortunately the pic of the 914 hulk didn't come across in this post. See Post #1 for clarity.

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 1 2017, 11:36 AM

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Posted by: JRust Apr 1 2017, 06:27 PM

HHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY Build pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif

How did I not see this thread earlier. Just went through all 12 pages. You sir are amazing! This will go in the 914world history books. Not only an amazing build but the time you have done all of this. I am blown away aktion035.gif

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Thanks for all comments.Working on the last bits of interior as I wait for the trim for the windshield to arrive.

Just asking.....anyone have one center,two point early seat belt spare?
Thinking of using that for a start.

Posted by: Brian Mifsud Apr 3 2017, 10:14 AM

To form the body contours of the 904, did you do this primarily from photos by eye?

Trial and Error?

Or is there a drawing out there?

I build boats for fun, and we use a stack-up of cross-sections like this called the "lines drawing".

Are there equivalents for the 904s? Or other old Porshe werks racers?


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Posted by: Brian Mifsud Apr 3 2017, 12:09 PM

I guess you did answer this as I found your earlier post:

"Thanks for the words....forgot to tell about my background.
My first job was as a mechanic for a mining company.After that I was a welder/mechanic/electrician for the offshore industry.My last job was tube-fitter in theNorth-sea.
Always been wrenching on something.Started with VW type 1 and old style hot-rods.
I prefer low-budget projects with a challenge.Got a bit tired of the lack of creativity in the
street-rods....Porsche looked fun.
When you google 904, the blue print,side view from 1963 pops-up.I don't have any measurements as this is only based on the 904, adjusted to fit a 914 chassis and 911 top.Just trying to catch the 904 styling.My kind of cheap fun.I could never afford a 904 replica and I don't like glassfibre cars..."

So you have as we describe it in boat building, "the eye"! A man who can estimate a shape, craft it, and tune it to look "sweet". I'll bet you could sketch out a very mean looking Viking longboat!


Posted by: MrsWannaB Apr 17 2017, 08:16 AM

Any news on this one?
Have you been out test driving during these wonderful days of spring?

Posted by: mbseto Apr 17 2017, 08:46 AM

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You get my vote for project of the year. pray.gif


If he were working any faster it would have to be project of the month! I have a sneaking suspicion he's already done and too busy carving up curvy roads to post...

Posted by: fordb132 Apr 18 2017, 11:12 AM

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Nothing much going on here.Working on some other projects including a carpenter job in the neighborhood.Going to install the windshield again.Difficult to make it fit like it should and no licence plates ,yet.Plenty of time.....

Posted by: Garold Shaffer Apr 18 2017, 11:48 AM

blink.gif Wow, simply Wow. You have some mad skills. pray.gif

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Apr 18 2017, 12:01 PM

Very nice tribute. Incredible skills. Care to tell us what you next project will be?




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Posted by: billh1963 Apr 18 2017, 12:54 PM

Nothing I can add.

I don't think I can convey my respect for what you conceptualized, designed and built in such a short time.


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Posted by: MrsWannaB Apr 18 2017, 02:16 PM

Åj, sjå dær ja... Du e bættere fengernæm. (Norwegian dialect, almost not even translatable into regular Norwegian.)

It's a beautiful car, with beautiful curves. And beautiful details. It annoys me that I can't see the steering wheel though.
It seems to run properly? Mettimotorn that is.

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Had a test trip to Germany and the HO 2017.The El Cheapo bastard worked like a charm so there were no wrenching on the whole trip but one speeding ticket.The bastard to blame,not me.
People seemed to like it and a few understood what it was....
The car is even going to be in a book about specials.

So this is the end of my Hardcore Recycling story.


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Posted by: sb914 Jun 28 2017, 05:36 AM

Wow incredible build pray.gif

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 28 2017, 06:11 AM

Wow, that finished up so well and you did it at a record pace!!! Congrats! Beautiful work!

Posted by: Coondog Jun 28 2017, 06:15 AM

Master craftsmen....... first.gif

Posted by: mbseto Jun 28 2017, 06:18 AM

Looks great on the road. It is really awesome how you can see the lines of both cars, but it is blended so gracefully. Well executed.

Posted by: LowBridge Jun 28 2017, 06:21 AM

so EPIC!
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Posted by: Krieger Jun 28 2017, 07:35 AM

Amazing! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: 76-914 Jun 28 2017, 07:40 AM

Incredible talent! beerchug.gif

Posted by: AZBanks Jun 28 2017, 10:29 AM

Amazing work.

Posted by: bretth Jun 28 2017, 10:43 AM

Wow. Awesome. And at this rate you are practically creating 2 cars a year from the ground up to the rest of us average DIY restorers maybe completing one every 5-10 years. first.gif

Posted by: Cracker Jun 28 2017, 10:48 AM

Terrific result...bravo! I am glad to see you enjoying the car... beerchug.gif

Tony

Posted by: burton73 Jun 28 2017, 11:21 AM

Thank you so much for taking us on your trip of the life of a craftsman of extraordinary talents. More fun than reading a book. No need to Schwan's you. You know you have the right stuff.
I missed the part when you formed the plastic for headlight covers

Bob B
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Posted by: Frankvw Jun 28 2017, 12:08 PM

Fake....i never saw any jackstands in the pics ! biggrin.gif
Wow. Hope your next project will be a Porsche or VW again.
Maybe we will see this car on one of the European shows, would be very cool to see this fast & great build in real life.

Posted by: Tjmrfe Jun 28 2017, 01:04 PM

Beautiful work, thank you for sharing your time and effort

Posted by: veltror Jun 28 2017, 01:51 PM

Amazing, hope you enjoyed HO, I could not make it, perhaps you should revive a dead Type34

Posted by: get off my lawn Jun 28 2017, 06:17 PM

Back when I was your age, me and some other guys from the 914 club site would all get together at someone's house, and we'd all bring the sawz-alls.

And we'd proceed to cut a 914 into parts small enough to fit into trash cans.

Sometimes the 914 would have a dent in a fender, or a small rust hole under the battery.
But that's was about the extent.
totally solid other than that. We'd just end up buying a running teener for a grand or less, part it out, and cut up what was left.

It's a good thing we didn't take pictures of the carnage, some of youse would go completely bat-shit crazy if you saw them!

Whenever i see someone go to great lengths to save an old rusted teener, I think of that.

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Posted by: sb914 Feb 4 2018, 08:38 AM

Nice job! Judging by your last build, you should be done next week.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 4 2018, 04:39 PM

Your work is masterful and we sincerely appreciate the high skill and thousands of hours you invested in building this 904 inspired 914. Craftsmen like you are more than worth their weight in gold, and any restoration shop would bid high to get a person of your talent


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Posted by: cal44 Feb 4 2018, 05:31 PM

I could be wrong.......but, I think I'm in love.
Should I have not written that? blink.gif

Posted by: MikeInMunich Feb 4 2018, 05:51 PM

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Incredible job. Most impressive thread / build I've ever seen. Hat off and congratulations!

Posted by: djway Feb 4 2018, 08:29 PM

smilie_pokal.gif You sir, are the Winner. Amazing build!

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 16 2019, 12:56 PM

If youve never read this, you havent been here long enough sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif first.gif


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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Feb 16 2019, 07:25 PM

Just an incredible journey through metalwork Well Done first.gif
On a side note...your working area is small, about the size of space my personal projects get built in at the shop. On various media sites that I surf around I've seen insanely good muscle car, race car and show cars built in home garages, rental storage sheds, etc. It just goes to show that if you are talented, you can probably build it in a basement ...a bit tough to drive a restored '65 Mustang out of that lol-2.gif


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If youve never read this, you havent been here long enough sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif first.gif


Most amazing "914" build I've ever seen.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 18 2019, 08:23 AM

You are a true Master Craftsman. beerchug.gif

Posted by: DRPHIL914 Aug 25 2020, 10:25 AM

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ok had to bump this due to the recent link on other thread linking it, and having seen but forgotten, it should not be forgotten, in fact, i think that in the spirit of the upcoming 2021 Build off thread and contest , I hearby nominate this as the
2017-2019 Build off Champion/Special project build winner - or honorary COTY(CAR OF THE YEAR 2020/50th anniversary ? i know we just voted and have a new COTM but i think this needs a sticky, anyway - nominated for COTY

btw hope you are doing well in Norway, any new projects to share??

Phil

Posted by: sb914 Jun 13 2022, 07:41 AM

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