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Posted by: Coondog Nov 18 2016, 02:34 PM

Pulled the plug today and purchased a 1986 3.2 motor. 114,000 miles. Will have motor gone through and start the process of getting everything I need for a smooth install. Hope to be done by the Route 66 run.

Got my inspiration from MoveQik, his car and 3.2 install is a work of art....

Posted by: mb911 Nov 18 2016, 03:04 PM

Congrats.. It will be well worth it.

Posted by: Steve Nov 18 2016, 07:55 PM

Congrats!!! Love my 3.2

Posted by: ConeDodger Nov 18 2016, 08:12 PM

Love mine!

Did you get to see the motor run? Since it's out, at a minimum you should reseal it and set the valves. Common problems are valve guides and if you saw it run, you'd know if it smokes... they can also pull head studs but far less common than the 2.7 and less often than the 3.0...

What are 3.2 motors going for these days? I heard in the $15K range?

Posted by: Coondog Nov 18 2016, 08:33 PM

Picked it up for 8.5K. Includes all fuel injection components and Elec including tach. Motor is being rebuilt by Patrick motorsports. I know there not the cheapest but they are one of the best.

Posted by: Rand Nov 18 2016, 08:36 PM

I know, sacrilege, but dang, doesn't an LS engine compute better now?

Power, weight, cost. Do the math.

Posted by: Coondog Nov 18 2016, 08:51 PM

I have been a fan of Renagade Hybrids for 20 plus years. I spent some time at there shop last year and was leaning in that direction. I can't believe I am saying this but a 300 plus HP 914 sounds like a blast but I want to relax while driving and not feel like a Lion tamer every time i get in it........FUCH I am getting old....

As I am already stupid upside down in this car 5 lug/911 suspension etc.ect.ect I decided to stay on the Porsche track and if ever the time comes to sell at least i have a motor that's not a dime a dozen.....

Also Patrick is 10K cheaper then Renagades quote for a turn key job.....

Posted by: mepstein Nov 18 2016, 08:58 PM

The math makes sense but it looses something when you put in something other than an air cooled Porsche engine. I don't mean that in a bad way but if it was just about the money and making sense, we would just drive modern cars.

Posted by: Catorse Nov 18 2016, 09:01 PM

It's not "sacrilege" It's just a friggin car. Having said that, there are very few things as sweet as a nice Porsche flat 6. The chevy doesn't do it for me, even though it is in many respects a superior engine.

Posted by: Rand Nov 18 2016, 09:42 PM

Just throwing out thoughts. Truth is, I we all want a Porsche six. But cost/performance ratio makes us consider other options. Considering cost and weight, sadly, no Porsche engine can compare to GM's LS powerplants. I want a Porsche 6. But when does want for something overpower what makes monetary sense?

Posted by: Steve Nov 18 2016, 11:38 PM

I resemble that remark.... I'm 56 and the 3.2 with matching 915 gear box is an awesome cruiser. Lots of fun, but also a relaxing cruiser with tons of torque. My previous 2.7 with webers and 901 gear box, was not as fast, but was faster reving and more obnoxious. The 3.2 with stock injection is a welcome change, but I miss the sound of the webers on the 2.7, but I don't miss the hastle.

Posted by: thelogo Nov 18 2016, 11:42 PM

Saying that the LS is a superior engine is correct as far as
Output

But how about center of gravity that is a trademark of these cars

Just saying if zuffenhausen wanted a v6 v8 etc

In there rear engine mid engine cars they would have built em already

Posted by: matthepcat Nov 19 2016, 12:00 AM

I love a sweet sounding 6, but sadly it's becoming a rich mans quest....

My last 6 engine 914 sounded sweeeet... but the cash was worth more than the sound.

Posted by: Steve Nov 19 2016, 12:05 AM

Um the 918 is also a v8. The 918 is also not an old school push rod motor. I also like the v8 914's too. Reminds me of a budget Pantera. Wish I had the space and could afford both. Since I was a kid I always wanted a 916. The 3.2 with 916 trans is the closest I will ever come to one and arguably my car is a better than a 916.

Posted by: falcor75 Nov 19 2016, 01:39 AM

I agree, its just not the same thing anymore...

Plus I dont care much for the V8 sound, flat 6, inline 6 or straight 5's do it for me.

Posted by: mgp4591 Nov 19 2016, 02:36 AM

It's absolutely not the same thing anymore - it's a hybrid that when it's prepared properly is a blast to drive and ride in! A lot of us here in the States grew up with V8s singing in our ears, driving our butts into the seat backs while listening to the latest rock with our girls by our sides. It's a throwback sound in a different chassis that handles SO much better that our old musclecars... I think it's an American thing!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 19 2016, 07:46 AM

Coondog - Congratulations on your 3,2 purchase. PMS building the motor has got to have you excited too. Please see if they can take progress photos of their build to send to you to post so we can all enjoy what I know will be an exceptional engine build.

Posted by: Perry Kiehl Nov 19 2016, 08:02 AM

Not the cheapest option, but the best choice for the long term. You'll love it! Be sure to wear some "Depends" for that first drive

Posted by: 914dave Nov 19 2016, 01:07 PM

I'm right there with ya. Finishing up the detailing for the install. Will back it up with a 915.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 19 2016, 02:08 PM

914dave - Sweet! You're going to address the rust on that pulley, right?

Posted by: 914dave Nov 19 2016, 02:32 PM

Hehehe. Yes I am. Just setting the belt tension. Can't have any rusty bits!!

Posted by: Steve Nov 19 2016, 02:37 PM

Without a firewall pad, it's still easy to adjust the belt and get to the shims. No need to cut a hole in the firewall.

Posted by: 914dave Nov 19 2016, 03:22 PM

Thanks. Good to know. I was going to have it all set before it goes in. No pad in my car. Wasn't planning on cutting a hole since the timing is set with the crank sensors.
Speaking of which, I'm researching how to set the clearance on them now.

Posted by: Steve Nov 19 2016, 03:27 PM

I had to get creative with a socket wrench from harbor freight. The head swivels up and down and is just the right angle to get around the fan shroud.

Posted by: porschetub Nov 19 2016, 04:33 PM

Really there is nothing like a six aircooled engine.....

Posted by: raynekat Nov 19 2016, 04:56 PM

Only other thing I'd do is paint that coil!
No blue coil belongs on a proper 911 engine.
Give it a quick coat of black and add some appropriate decals and you'll have thus:

Posted by: Coondog Nov 19 2016, 05:12 PM

Good call, I have a perfect pad but was thinking it would make for a tight squeeze.

Posted by: wndsnd Nov 19 2016, 05:16 PM

Mr. Dog,

Here is some motivation for you. Shot this today.

Its pretty long but you will get the gist after a minute or so.

Good luck with your conversion!

https://youtu.be/BaoZx6HfnD8

Posted by: 914dave Nov 19 2016, 05:48 PM

You guys are very helpful! hehe

Wndsnd, your video got me all fired up!!!

Posted by: Coondog Nov 19 2016, 06:15 PM

Sign me up...........That's how a 914 is supposed to sound.