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Posted by: timothy_nd28 Nov 20 2016, 07:53 PM

I have been helping Mepstein with some of his 911 core tachometers. It was needed to keep these original, so updating the tach drive was not an option. After searching the web I failed to find anything relevant, I even came across a few schematics that were wrong (they drew it with PNP transistors). It seems that VDO was tight lipped about publishing anything about the internal workings.

My uncle reversed engineered the VDO tachometer, and even found suitable replacement components as some these 1970's parts are obsolete. This model is proven to work with the TINA Spice program, which I can't seem to post the file to share, so PM me and I can email it if you want to play with it. I'm hoping this may clear things up and help others with fixing their own tachs.



Original transistors Q1,Q2, and Q3 are BC170D, and are obsolete. Simulation with TINA uses 2N2222A, which works great as these are excellent general purpose replacements. The inductor L1 is shown as 10mH, just to have some value. I did not measure it and do not know what its inductance is. It is used to filter the current so the needle does not bounce as much. I do no have a part number or value for the thermistor (TH1). It has a resistance of about 50 ohms (green-black) at 25C (room temperature).

Posted by: RenoRoger Nov 25 2016, 12:49 PM

QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Nov 20 2016, 05:53 PM)

I have been helping Mepstein with some of his 911 core tachometers. It was needed to keep these original, so updating the tach drive was not an option. After searching the web I failed to find anything relevant, I even came across a few schematics that were wrong (they drew it with PNP transistors). It seems that VDO was tight lipped about publishing anything about the internal workings.

My uncle reversed engineered the VDO tachometer, and even found suitable replacement components as some these 1970's parts are obsolete. This model is proven to work with the TINA Spice program, which I can't seem to post the file to share, so PM me and I can email it if you want to play with it. I'm hoping this may clear things up and help others with fixing their own tachs.



Original transistors Q1,Q2, and Q3 are BC170D, and are obsolete. Simulation with TINA uses 2N2222A, which works great as these are excellent general purpose replacements. The inductor L1 is shown as 10mH, just to have some value. I did not measure it and do not know what its inductance is. It is used to filter the current so the needle does not bounce as much. I do no have a part number or value for the thermistor (TH1). It has a resistance of about 50 ohms (green-black) at 25C (room temperature).

Posted by: porschetub Nov 25 2016, 12:56 PM

[quote name='RenoRoger' date='Nov 26 2016, 07:49 AM' post='2427091']
[quote name='timothy_nd28' post='2425377' date='Nov 20 2016, 05:53 PM']
I have been helping Mepstein with some of his 911 core tachometers. It was needed to keep these original, so updating the tach drive was not an option. After searching the web I failed to find anything relevant, I even came across a few schematics that were wrong (they drew it with PNP transistors). It seems that VDO was tight lipped about publishing anything about the internal workings.

My uncle reversed engineered the VDO tachometer, and even found suitable replacement components as some these 1970's parts are obsolete. This model is proven to work with the TINA Spice program, which I can't seem to post the file to share, so PM me and I can email it if you want to play with it. I'm hoping this may clear things up and help others with fixing their own tachs.





Can a VDO 911 tach be used on a 914/4 and vice versa?

RenoRoger
'73 914/2.0
'76 912E
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Yes but you will need a tach adaptor,these can be set to work with a multitude of combinations.
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Posted by: 914Sixer Nov 25 2016, 07:35 PM

Best to use the 911 for the six cylinders only.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Nov 25 2016, 07:54 PM

Yes, you can use a 914 tach for a six cylinder. You would need to change the value of C4 and maybe R8, these two components sets the timing.