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Posted by: rosenfe Nov 26 2016, 01:59 PM
on my 73 2.0,i would like to put a push button for starting.in my reading,i understand that i can put button between hot lead and yellow lead at solenoid.is this correct,if so what is best way to get buttons up to dash from solenoid?
Posted by: McMark Nov 26 2016, 02:06 PM
Big red wire and big yellow wire at the ignition switch. Re route them to the switch.
Oh, and, don't do it.
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Nov 26 2016, 02:53 PM
Nuff said!
Posted by: porschetub Nov 26 2016, 04:15 PM
Big red wire and big yellow wire at the ignition switch. Re route them to the switch.
Oh, and, don't do it.
Hard to answer better
Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 26 2016, 09:55 PM
Interesting how these start buttons have evolved....
See: http://www.digitalguarddawg.com/automotive/start-button-choices
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Posted by: Bartlett 914 Nov 27 2016, 01:50 PM
Really old cars had foot switches mounted on the floor on the left side LOL
Posted by: wndsrfr Nov 27 2016, 01:57 PM
Really old cars had foot switches mounted on the floor on the left side LOL
Yup...and the headlight dimmer switch, too. Remember the vacuum windshield wipers that would slow way down just when you floored it to pass?
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Nov 27 2016, 02:00 PM
Actually, they were located to the right of the gas pedal. Trans in neutral, left foot on brake, right heel on gas and right toe on the starter pedal.
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Nov 27 2016, 02:08 PM
They make for great garage door switches
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Nov 27 2016, 06:46 PM
Our 1953 Nash had the starter switch on the floor, just under a tab that extended up from the clutch pedal. You couldn't start the car without the clutch disengaged. Flat head six, three on the tree. Beautiful. 
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Posted by: RickS Nov 27 2016, 11:37 PM
on my 73 2.0,i would like to put a push button for starting.in my reading,i understand that i can put button between hot lead and yellow lead at solenoid.is this correct,if so what is best way to get buttons up to dash from solenoid?
You never planning on parking it in public with your new thief bait or are you adding a hidden kill switch, which means two switches, which equals one ignition switch?
Posted by: ClayPerrine Nov 28 2016, 06:21 PM
Actually, they were located to the right of the gas pedal. Trans in neutral, left foot on brake, right heel on gas and right toe on the starter pedal.
I always set the park brake, pushed in the clutch, and pulled the choke out. The hit the starter button on the floor. Started right up every time.
1931 Chevy Sedan. Learned to drive a manual on that car. My dad told me to push in the clutch so the starter didn't have to spin the gears in the transmission too.
Posted by: BigFour1973 Nov 28 2016, 06:38 PM
on my 73 2.0,i would like to put a push button for starting.in my reading,i understand that i can put button between hot lead and yellow lead at solenoid.is this correct,if so what is best way to get buttons up to dash from solenoid?
You never planning on parking it in public with your new thief bait or are you adding a hidden kill switch, which means two switches, which equals one ignition switch?
Why couldnt you have the push button inline with the ignition switch? key in, turn it to on. push the button to start. and drive away?
I know its double duty, but i think at that point its form over function.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Nov 28 2016, 07:03 PM
Yes I want to do this too. No more bent keys. .
Posted by: Rand Nov 28 2016, 07:46 PM
I know it sounds hackish to some, but I've put hidden switches on a couple of my cars. A toggle for ignition/accs, and a momentary for start. Both located conveniently for me, but none visible to anyone else. It's nice to hop in and go without dealing with keys.
Posted by: iamchappy Nov 28 2016, 07:51 PM
My old Mini had it on the floor by the seat...
Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 28 2016, 11:05 PM
Old technology. My '47 Lincoln had a push button start - turn the key on, then push button.
Posted by: anderssj Nov 29 2016, 04:48 PM
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Why couldnt you have the push button inline with the ignition switch? key in, turn it to on. push the button to start. and drive away?
I know its double duty, but i think at that point its form over function.
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That's how I set this one up (aftermarket ignition switch was "iffy" in the start position): 
Waytek "engine start" pushbutton installed in the cigar lighter hole; no new holes or cuts or anything. "Switched +" from fuse box to push-button (hot when ignition switch is "on"), then larger yellow wire direct from pushbutton to a Ford relay on the starter.
Font/type on the switch matches pretty well too . . . 
Hope this helps.
Posted by: screenguy914 Nov 29 2016, 06:32 PM
The crank position flows more current through the switch contacts then other electrical loads, and it fails sooner than the On or Accessory switch positions.
Why not? What's the cost of a new ignition switch/steer. wheel lock? Autozone ...... Autozone wants $800.00 :-O. 
Just need the contact section? That's only about $30, but not sure you want to go to the trouble of accessing it (pretty straightforward though).
I'm planning on installing a separate crank button.
Sherwood
Posted by: patssle Nov 29 2016, 06:35 PM
I have a push button on mine and have found it extremely useful. Prime the engine after it's been sitting a while or any other reason to crank it over with the key off.
Using this one: https://www.delcity.net/store/Heavy!Duty-Push-Button-Switch/p_8065
Posted by: matthepcat Nov 29 2016, 06:40 PM
^^ My 914-V8 had that same type ^^
It never let me down.
Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 29 2016, 07:17 PM
My gas snow blower had a push start..... 
Heck these days just being a standard is a theft deterrent. 
Posted by: naro914 Nov 29 2016, 07:36 PM
Papa Smurf has a push start and two switches: one for the starter and one for 'everything else' including the ECU. Flip starter switch, push button and develop oil pressure without ignition to prime the oil system, then flip ECU switch, start the car.
Good habit for race engines and cars that sit for a while. 
(damn those screws look rusty!!)
Posted by: jcd914 Nov 29 2016, 08:02 PM
I did not see this mentioned, so ...
One of the things the standard Ignition/Starter Switch does is prevent engaging the starter after the engine has been started. Once you turn the key to the start position you have to turn it back to off to turn it to start again.
So if you install a push button start switch mount it where it is not likely to get bumped while driving and don't push it while the engine is running.
It can be bad for the starters and flywheel to be engaged while the engine is running.
Jim
Posted by: WLD419 Nov 29 2016, 09:10 PM
I put starter button in my dash , only works with the key on , it helps when you stall the
car and you don't have to turn the key off & back on ( just push button ) , it also runs through a relay ,
I've been running it for a couple years Bill D.
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