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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Is this a real /6?
Posted by: lalee914 Dec 15 2016, 03:26 PM
Found this on COPART today. Not much left but the rear bumper looks like it could be from a /6
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Posted by: lalee914 Dec 15 2016, 03:27 PM
Looks like it used to be a 914....
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Posted by: lalee914 Dec 15 2016, 03:28 PM
Here's the link:
https://www.copart.com/lot/40100946/?resultIndex=6&totalRecords=176&backTo=%2FvehicleFinderSearch%2F%3FdisplayStr%3DPorsche,%5B1949%20TO%202017%5D&from=%2F&searchStr=%7B%22MISC%22:%5B%22lot_make_code:PORS%2BOR%2Blot_make_desc:Porsche%22,%22vehicle_type_code:VEHTYPE_V%22,%22lot_year:%5B1949%20TO%202017%5D%22%5D,%22sortByZip%22:false,%22buyerEnteredZip%22:null%7D&displayStr=Search%20Results%20for:%20Porsche,%5B1949%20TO%202017%5D&viewedLot=40100946
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Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 15 2016, 03:29 PM
Gnarly 
Posted by: siverson Dec 15 2016, 03:31 PM
Hahaha... you got us all. I know this is just the start of a new thread by fordb132. He'll have this ready to go for a New Years Day concours.
-Steve
Posted by: lalee914 Dec 15 2016, 03:37 PM
This one is so bad you couldn't even jack up the VIN plates and put a new car under them. You would have to forge some VIN plates first.
Anybody know the story behind this?
Also, if you look through COPART Porsche listings there were two 356s and some 912s to go with the usual 2017 models that were crashed/burned/stolen/flooded/etc.. Pretty sad.
Posted by: porbmw Dec 15 2016, 03:46 PM
A couple of pics kind of show the left side of the dash....can you tell whether the ignition is on the left?
Posted by: N_Jay Dec 15 2016, 04:04 PM
Looks like a structure fire.
Wasn't there a warehouse storing cars that went up recently?
Posted by: jim_hoyland Dec 15 2016, 04:04 PM
The VIN listed in their ad isn't a 914 VIN...
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Dec 15 2016, 04:44 PM
That will buff out.... 
Posted by: Mike Fitton Dec 15 2016, 05:04 PM
Found this on COPART today. Not much left but the rear bumper looks like it could be from a /6
Rear valance has the early port hole but it is in the 914-4 location.
Posted by: 396 Dec 15 2016, 05:15 PM
That will buff out....
Someone with a deeeep pocket should jump in and "save " it.
Posted by: Dominic Dec 15 2016, 05:31 PM
Looks like a -4, I don't see the ignition switch on the left side of the column.
Posted by: carr914 Dec 15 2016, 06:22 PM
it is a -6
Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 15 2016, 07:30 PM
it is a -6
OK TC here is my take.
Rear fog light bracket.....unusual on any car, most likely on a six
14" Fuchs....who would choose them on a conversion ?....original on a real 6
Solid aluminum steering wheel adapter for an Momo just like on my car. Not suitable
for a 4cyl. Can't see any evidence on the right of the column of an ignition lock.
In the pic from the drivers side into the interior the steering column appears to have
tabs that mount the plastic clamshells of a 6
The rear valence/exhaust does look like a 4 cyl.
The view into the left rear wheel well is fuzzy , is that an oil hose in there ?
What else ?
Front marker lamps filled with metal discs.....not welded....just strange
Posted by: Cornerlot Dec 15 2016, 07:59 PM
A garage fire in Michigan. Consumed this real quick 914-6, a 911, and a 356 too. Tragic.
Steve
Posted by: porschetub Dec 15 2016, 10:23 PM
what would you get off it ?.....trans,engine short block ( maybe),exhaust heatexchangers ,wheels (?) brake calipers (?),remember local car (911) caught fire when the owner was driving ,engine(short block) and box were ok ,maybe this has been subjected to more heat than a straight out engine fire...such a shame .
Posted by: Bob L. Dec 15 2016, 10:29 PM
The VIN listed in their ad isn't a 914 VIN...
It starts with a 9? I suspect the 3rd digit was a 4 that looked like a 1 after the fire.
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 16 2016, 12:15 AM
My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.
Posted by: lalee914 Dec 16 2016, 09:15 AM
what would you get off it ?.....trans,engine short block ( maybe),exhaust heatexchangers ,wheels (?) brake calipers (?),remember local car (911) caught fire when the owner was driving ,engine(short block) and box were ok ,maybe this has been subjected to more heat than a straight out engine fire...such a shame
.Looks like one of the headlight covers might be usable....
Posted by: mountainroads Dec 16 2016, 09:45 AM
what would you get off it ?.....trans,engine short block ( maybe),exhaust heatexchangers ,wheels (?) brake calipers (?),remember local car (911) caught fire when the owner was driving ,engine(short block) and box were ok ,maybe this has been subjected to more heat than a straight out engine fire...such a shame
.Looks like one of the headlight covers might be usable....
Isn't somebody on another thread looking for engine mounts? (Yes, I know the rubber piece will likely need to be sourced, but at least the metal bits are there.)
- MR
Posted by: larryM Dec 17 2016, 03:21 PM
This one is so bad you couldn't even jack up the VIN plates and put a new car under them. You would have to forge some VIN plates first.
easy enuf - you can buy 'em from Stoddard & from europe
note - it has a Momo 6-bolt pattern steering hub (911 style - same as on my euro sixer)
another barn find, buy it now
note that it is "on approval" meaning the seller has the MI title & KNOWS what you plan to do with the VIN & expects big money
Posted by: pete000 Dec 17 2016, 05:28 PM
I remember reading that was a real six fully restored and a few weeks or months it was burnt in a storage garage fire that took several very nice early 911s as well.
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 17 2016, 07:25 PM
note that it is "on approval" meaning the seller has the MI title & KNOWS what you plan to do with the VIN & expects big money
The VIN should be weeded out and listed as a fire lost on this site, actions like this "encourage" people to be honest.
Posted by: larryM Dec 22 2016, 09:43 PM
note that it is "on approval"; the seller has the MI title & KNOWS what you plan to do with the VIN & expects big money
The VIN should be weeded out and listed as a fire lost on this site, actions like this "encourage" people to be honest.
often COPART lists insurance salvage burn cars as Non-repairable - no title, etc - most selling insurance companies will require that; but all copart sellers are not insure co's
that is not the case here -
about a year ago a 914 was on a Calif copart "on approval " for many auction cycles - bids were not high enuf for the seller even tho it was a piece of junk
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Dec 22 2016, 10:16 PM
Insurance companies are smarter than many people think. They know with a car like this that someone will buy it. Chances are they had a pretty large payout so it might take awhile to get solid money for the car, but they will wait, because they know that someone will pay for the VIN of a 914/6. They will probably issue a parts only salvage title to cover their arse but there are ways around that. Most states have two kinds of salvage titles, salvage rebuildable and parts only. A parts only salvage title is a dead end in the state it is issued in, there is no going back, no passing go. But there are a few states like Kentucky who only have one kind of salvage title, salvage, which can be re-built. So someone will buy this car with a CA parts only title, "wash" it in KY, and they now have a title you can build on. The other option for this is you can export on a parts only title, it's still a title after all. Many parts of the globe don't recognize what a salvage title is, Russia is one haven for this. In the early 90s the Russians starting coming to the auctions in Atlanta and outbid everyone, I got to be friends with one guy and asked him "what's up?". Apparently if they bought a car with a salvage title they could import it into Russia as parts, thereby not paying heavy import tax, but once in country they would just fix it and sell it, because Russia didn't recognize salvage titles. It was brilliant!
So with several avenues for a car like this the insurance company will ride it out, knowing someone will come along. There was a Ferrari like this at the auction we used to go to in Atlanta, been there for years, one day it was gone. That guy came along.
Posted by: RobW Dec 22 2016, 11:34 PM
Ouch.
Posted by: SKL1 Dec 22 2016, 11:52 PM
"is it a 6?" Does it matter????
Posted by: oldie914 Dec 23 2016, 02:32 AM
Last year, my neighbor bought a Chrysler van in Hamburg; US model advertised as accident free. When he got it home he realized it was not right. His English is not the best so I ran a US vehicle check for him and we found the van had been totaled and then sold in Atlanta for export to Lithuania. Repaired in Lithuania, it was sent to be sold in Germany where Chrysler vans are popular. The title did not note previous accidents.
Since he bought it from a dealer, he was able to return the van and get his money back.
Posted by: jfort Dec 23 2016, 09:01 AM
I bought a 2005 base Cayenne from Copart. It had been rear ended but not bad. Normal, not salvage, title. Put on a rear hatch and bumper off a 2005 S that had been front ended, repainted hatch and bumper to match. Great vehicle. So far so good. Had two S V8's, with salvage titles. Both had scored cylinders.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 23 2016, 09:29 AM
"is it a 6?" Does it matter????
Duh....really ?
Posted by: PancakePorsche Dec 26 2016, 02:53 AM
I cringe thinking this now 3 cent a pound crispy critter turns up in the future in some VIN swapped bastard. Need to say goodbye and give it's coup de grace in a crusher.
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 26 2016, 12:06 PM
Insurance companies are smarter than many people think. They know with a car like this that someone will buy it.......
This really sucks, basically insurance companies are aiding and abetting a criminal act.
I really hate government over regulation, but to me this is something that regulation is supposed to curtail.
Posted by: forrestkhaag Dec 27 2016, 12:37 PM
The add lists it as a 911 with a value of 85K. I am pretty sure it is neither of those two things............ 
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