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Posted by: mb911 Dec 29 2016, 02:00 PM

Did someone organize a bumper rechroming group buy in the past? I thought I read that some where? I was wondering if it was worth to try and organize another one?

Posted by: mepstein Dec 29 2016, 02:42 PM

Probably more work than raising kids.

Posted by: cuddyk Dec 29 2016, 03:01 PM

Is there a preferred re-chroming vendor here?

Posted by: jmill Dec 29 2016, 03:04 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 29 2016, 02:42 PM) *

Probably more work than raising kids.


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Posted by: mb911 Dec 29 2016, 03:18 PM

QUOTE(cuddyk @ Dec 29 2016, 01:01 PM) *

Is there a preferred re-chroming vendor here?



Ogden always comes up but I think most bumper people with enough interest would do a group buy

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 29 2016, 07:41 PM

If something comes up, let me know...i'm looking for a chromer too.

MY 356 friend went with Paul's Chrome because and they did well, not sure about relative price, but his car won shows after it was done...

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 29 2016, 08:55 PM

I need a set of '68 ghia bumpers rechromed.

Posted by: rudedude Dec 30 2016, 07:09 AM

I was part of the last group buy and the finish while nice and shiny was not flat and full of waves.

Posted by: mb911 Dec 30 2016, 08:04 AM

QUOTE(rudedude @ Dec 30 2016, 05:09 AM) *

I was part of the last group buy and the finish while nice and shiny was not flat and full of waves.



That would be disappointing.. What was the cost last go around?

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 30 2016, 09:36 AM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Dec 30 2016, 09:04 AM) *

QUOTE(rudedude @ Dec 30 2016, 05:09 AM) *

I was part of the last group buy and the finish while nice and shiny was not flat and full of waves.



That would be disappointing.. What was the cost last go around?



Here's a thread on SS bumpers, replating and the rechrome group deal.
One thing mentioned is the 914 bumper is quite thin, likely why the cheap job came out wavey.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=242088&st=20

You know you can get brand new stainless steel bumpers for about $1000 a pair. Edit sorry I'm out of date, the SS bumpers have gone way up in price $1600/pr. see link

http://www.groupharrington.com/en/part/74/porsche-914-and-914-6-bumpers.html

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 30 2016, 12:33 PM

If they were still $1k a pair it'd be a no brainer...maybe we group buy the SS bumpers and get a discount ?

Posted by: mb911 Dec 30 2016, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Dec 30 2016, 10:33 AM) *

If they were still $1k a pair it'd be a no brainer...maybe we group buy the SS bumpers and get a discount ?



That would be a deal for sure.

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 30 2016, 03:23 PM

I have a contact that could likely beat any price Harrington offers on a Stainless steel bumper group buy.
The only thing is they likely would need a half decent set of bumpers (not chrome OK) sent to them for a pattern.

I could ask but need to know how many would be interested.

Posted by: TM_Corey Dec 30 2016, 03:26 PM

Here is a place that does huge quantities. They had an entire semi trailer full of bumpers and were doing core swaps for all types of vintage cars. I met them at the Fall Auctions America Auburn Show this past fall. Very nice guys. My email correspondence with them is below:


Hello-

I met you guys at the Auburn Fall show. Thanks for putting up with all my questions.

Here is a photo of the Porsche 914 bumper that I need repaired (dent) and re-chromed.

Please let me know what it would cost. Also please let me know the difference for either shipping, or picking up on March 5-6 at the Indianapolis State Fairgrounds.

Thanks!

cs


Hi Corey
914 Porsche front and rear are $650 each to repair and
rechrome. You can send us your cores and we'll deliver
them to Indy in March of 2017.. We can also rechrome a
a pair and deliver them to Indy. Save shipping on both ways.
We charge $40 each handling fee to take them out for you.
We open them up for your inspection and repack them.
Call us 7 weeks in advance to order.
Thanks
Bob
bobbumperboyz@yahoo.com

Posted by: billh1963 Dec 30 2016, 03:34 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 30 2016, 04:23 PM) *

I have a contact that could likely beat any price Harrington offers on a Stainless steel bumper group buy.
The only thing is they likely would need a half decent set of bumpers (not chrome OK) sent to them for a pattern.

I could ask but need to know how many would be interested.



That (or a Harrington group buy) would be interesting.

Put me down for two (or even three) complete sets if the price can get to around $1k/set

Posted by: mb911 Dec 30 2016, 03:35 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 30 2016, 01:23 PM) *

I have a contact that could likely beat any price Harrington offers on a Stainless steel bumper group buy.
The only thing is they likely would need a half decent set of bumpers (not chrome OK) sent to them for a pattern.

I could ask but need to know how many would be interested.



I don't really have a good front bumper and the rear is chrome and that is pretty nice. I would be good with even raw as I have a polisher that is local that does a fantastic job.

Posted by: Mike Fitton Dec 30 2016, 03:35 PM

Here is another idea which is what I did. I had a friend who works at a local body shop it's a national franchise one, asked did he have a good place to hammer out a few dents and rechrome my front bumper, no problem he sent it out to a place they have a contract with and added $50 on top of his cost for their shop total was $375 and it was perfect. The chromer was a place in Minnesota I will try to get the name of it and post it. Place was Keystone in Brainerd, MN

Posted by: mb911 Dec 30 2016, 03:36 PM

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Dec 30 2016, 01:35 PM) *

Here is another idea which is what I did. I had a friend who works at a local body shop it's a national franchise one, asked did he have a good place to hammer out a few dents and rechrome my front bumper, no problem he sent it out to a place they have a contract with and added $50 on top of his cost for their shop total was $375 and it was perfect. The chromer was a place in Minnesota I will try to get the name of it and post it.



That would be even better

Posted by: stanthedog Dec 30 2016, 03:47 PM

Would it cost the same for painted bumpers to be chromed. I have the black ones.

Posted by: gandalf_025 Dec 30 2016, 03:57 PM


Hi Corey
914 Porsche front and rear are $650 each to repair and
rechrome. You can send us your cores and we'll deliver
them to Indy in March of 2017.. We can also rechrome a
a pair and deliver them to Indy. Save shipping on both ways.
We charge $40 each handling fee to take them out for you.
We open them up for your inspection and repack them.
Call us 7 weeks in advance to order.
Thanks
Bob
bobbumperboyz@yahoo.com

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At 650.00 each to fix and rechrome and 40.00 each to deliver,plus shipping to get them there.. you are around 300.00 less than new stainless ones..

Anyone that thinks they will get the Harrington ones for 1000.00 a set ... Good luck with that...

Posted by: Mike Fitton Dec 30 2016, 07:05 PM

Call Keystone direct in Minnesota and get a price, like I said I paid $375 all in for a front bumper and it was superb!!

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 30 2016, 08:33 PM

I shot off an email to the peep I dealt with before at Harrington's competition, let's see what their price is. popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 30 2016, 08:46 PM

QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2016, 04:57 PM) *


At 650.00 each to fix and rechrome and 40.00 each to deliver,plus shipping to get them there....



QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Dec 30 2016, 04:35 PM) *

....... did he have a good place to hammer out a few dents and rechrome my front bumper, no problem he sent it out to a place they have a contract with and added $50 on top of his cost for their shop total was $375 and it was perfect.

This is the thing about getting a quote for a group buy on rechroming, one person's bumper may need 2-4 hours of prep time and another's 3-4 days.

How do you make a fair, "one price fits all" for that?
The guys with one dent and two scratches helps pay for the prep time for the guys with rusted out, full of holes POS?

Just wondering.... idea.gif

Posted by: 914_teener Dec 30 2016, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Dec 30 2016, 06:46 PM) *

QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2016, 04:57 PM) *


At 650.00 each to fix and rechrome and 40.00 each to deliver,plus shipping to get them there....



QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Dec 30 2016, 04:35 PM) *

....... did he have a good place to hammer out a few dents and rechrome my front bumper, no problem he sent it out to a place they have a contract with and added $50 on top of his cost for their shop total was $375 and it was perfect.

This is the thing about getting a quote for a group buy on rechroming, one person's bumper may need 2-4 hours of prep time and another's 3-4 days.

How do you make a fair, "one price fits all" for that?
The guys with one dent and two scratches helps pay for the prep time for the guys with rusted out, full of holes POS?

Just wondering.... idea.gif




Yep....

That is exactly what the last guy said last time we did this in So Cal.

The result was less than spectacular.

Just think it is one of those things that you get what you pay for.

It is just hard to give everyone a standard price.

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 3 2017, 09:58 AM

QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Dec 30 2016, 04:57 PM) *



Anyone that thinks they will get the Harrington ones for 1000.00 a set ... Good luck with that...


I just might! would any one be interested in $1000/set 304 Stainless bumpers? shades.gif

If we could get 20 sets I bet it's doable.
Also for safety sake they are paypal friendly, good reputation, since 2010, like Harrington out of Vietnam, etc.

They would need good examples of each bumper.

Any interest?

Posted by: gandalf_025 Jan 3 2017, 10:16 AM

Mark:
If you can find someone besides Harrington to reproduce bumpers in Stainless,
that would be great..
My reply was more pointed toward anyone thinking Harrington would drop their 1700.00 price to 1000.00 for a group buy.
If someone wants to try, I guess it can't hurt to ask though.
The guy I dealt with at Harrington was a marketing manager and seemed like a nice enough guy.

If you are going to send a set of bumpers to someone to make the dies from, be sure to send an early rear bumper.
Harrington only has the later ones .
Early rears would open a whole new market for 914-6 restorations..

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 3 2017, 12:47 PM

QUOTE(gandalf_025 @ Jan 3 2017, 11:16 AM) *

Mark:
If you can find someone besides Harrington to reproduce bumpers in Stainless,
that would be great..
My reply was more pointed toward anyone thinking Harrington would drop their 1700.00 price to 1000.00 for a group buy.
If someone wants to try, I guess it can't hurt to ask though.
The guy I dealt with at Harrington was a marketing manager and seemed like a nice enough guy.

If you are going to send a set of bumpers to someone to make the dies from, be sure to send an early rear bumper.
Harrington only has the later ones .
Early rears would open a whole new market for 914-6 restorations..


That likely can be done BUT someone would have to step up and supply a sample bumper. I'm positive that the bumper would not be harmed and returned, but of course you would be running the shipping risk. I believe it's shipped through Fed-Ex.

BTW I'm keeping some details under wraps for now, but I'm not looking to make any coin on the deal. Just any out of pocket for sample bumper shipping, etc.

Posted by: JRust Jan 3 2017, 02:07 PM

WarPig spent time at their factory & discussed a group buy deal with them. I can't remember what the deal was with it. Hell maybe I am getting it mixed up & he spent time at another factory trying to see if they would do them. I'll send a him a PM

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 3 2017, 03:14 PM

QUOTE(JRust @ Jan 3 2017, 03:07 PM) *

WarPig spent time at their factory & discussed a group buy deal with them. I can't remember what the deal was with it. Hell maybe I am getting it mixed up & he spent time at another factory trying to see if they would do them. I'll send a him a PM

Ask him to send me a PM if he has info.

Posted by: mb911 Jan 3 2017, 03:37 PM

I would be interested

Posted by: dwillouby Jan 3 2017, 03:53 PM

Check Advanced Plating in Nashville TN. They do a lot of the street rod and show cars.

David

Posted by: raynekat Jan 3 2017, 09:21 PM

Here's another "data point" for you guys.

I just ordered a set of the stainless bumpers from Harrington.
$1691 delivered to me in Oregon.
I really don't think there is any way you'll get them for $1000...no matter how big the group buy.
Maybe $1400 if you're lucky.
So that said, if you're not willing to put out that kind of cash, look in a different direction.

Smart people have said already that some folk's bumpers are in better shape than others.
So that really does make it tough for a "group buy" vendor to supply "one price" for everyone.
Words of wisdom.
If you can find a more inexpensive vendor that can take care of everyone....that's great.
If not, some folks will be sorely disappointed.
Not a great thing for a "group buy."

Think this out very carefully, as you don't want it to blow up with some of your members.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 3 2017, 09:28 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Jan 3 2017, 10:21 PM) *

Here's another "data point" for you guys.

I just ordered a set of the stainless bumpers from Harrington.
$1691 delivered to me in Oregon.
I really don't think there is any way you'll get them for $1000...no matter how big the group buy.
Maybe $1400 if you're lucky.
So that said, if you're not willing to put out that kind of cash, look in a different direction.

Smart people have said already that some folk's bumpers are in better shape than others.
So that really does make it tough for a "group buy" vendor to supply "one price" for everyone.
Words of wisdom.
If you can find a more inexpensive vendor that can take care of everyone....that's great.
If not, some folks will be sorely disappointed.
Not a great thing for a "group buy."

Think this out very carefully, as you don't want it to blow up with some of your members.

That's a great price. I don't have decent cores so the ss bumpers are very attractive to me. One purchase and done. Especially if they can customize for me and leave off the front license plate holes.

Posted by: raynekat Jan 4 2017, 12:17 AM

Here's the latest poop on these bumpers from Harrington:

The price for a set of Porsche 914 bumpers is USD 1,661 including shipping.

Please note that we supply two types of Porsche 914 bumpers: in EU Version and US Version- please let me know which one you require.

As far as I know, there are 2 types of the rear bumpers for Porsche 914: early type (the edges of the indent are square) and the later type (the edges of the indent are round). I have attached a photo at the bottom of this email. Please let me know which type you require.

Both the front and the rear bumpers can come with or without holes for the number plates. The rear bumper can also come with or without hole for tow hook (please see pictures below). Please advise if you want to have these holes pre-drilled.

We also supply the tow plug for an additional of USD 30. Please let me know if you are interested.

We can have the bumpers ready for shipping within 35 working days after receipt of payment and confirmation. Shipping is with DHL airfreight which only takes 3-4 days straight to your door.

With regards to payment - we accept Paypal, Bank transfer. In case you decide to order, please let me know which method you prefer, I will then send you more details.
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So pretty much ala carte....as you like.

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 4 2017, 02:53 PM

I'm not dealing with Harrington shades.gif

Don't know the ballpark yet and it would depend on how many on a group buy, but USA spec VW ghia bumpers which are 8 or 9 separate pieces for each bumper are $900/set.
I'd call them excellent from 5 feet, not absolutely perfect but pretty damn good.
They also lose a couple of points because stainless isn't quite as shiny as chrome. But on the pro side stainless could be repaired in case of mishap.

Right now they said they would work with us on a price and send a trial set for fitment.
I could send the boys bumpers they are drivers quality, but I don't have a /6 rear bumper.
Like Harrington they make these bumpers by hand.

If there is enough interest I will pursue this further.

Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2017, 02:24 PM

Not that I am ready just checking in to see if any thing came of it?

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 9 2017, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Jan 9 2017, 03:24 PM) *

Not that I am ready just checking in to see if any thing came of it?


They are crunching numbers and we are talking.
What do you guys think would be the best, within reason, price point?
Of course the more in the buy the better the price.

We shall see...

Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2017, 03:03 PM

I think for example if they sold a bumper for let's say 400 each they would sell them so fast they wouldn't know what to do.. Lots of folks out there want a cost effective option and can't or won't afford 1600 for bumpers..

Posted by: Mike Fitton Jan 9 2017, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(mb911 @ Jan 9 2017, 01:03 PM) *

I think for example if they sold a bumper for let's say 400 each they would sell them so fast they wouldn't know what to do.. Lots of folks out there want a cost effective option and can't or won't afford 1600 for bumpers..



So half off their everyday price? NFW that is going to happen!

Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2017, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(Mike Fitton @ Jan 9 2017, 02:00 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Jan 9 2017, 01:03 PM) *

I think for example if they sold a bumper for let's say 400 each they would sell them so fast they wouldn't know what to do.. Lots of folks out there want a cost effective option and can't or won't afford 1600 for bumpers..



So half off their everyday price? NFW that is going to happen!



Different company so maybe.

Posted by: TM_Corey Jan 10 2017, 06:37 AM

I'm still trying to decide what to do. My rear one isn't that bad chrome wise, but the supports are crusty and need blasted and painted. The front one has a dent.

I'm half tempted to sell them both at Hershey along with my three extra doors and other bits and go SS.

Posted by: clapeza Jan 10 2017, 09:01 AM

Throw me in as another interested party, to help the numbers. My '70 got the black bumper treatment, so I'm definitely interested in chrome.

Chester

Posted by: 76-914 Jan 10 2017, 09:45 AM

Didn't someone mention the Harrington SS bumpers didn't have the same exact look/finish as chrome? Might be something to consider for the CW crowd. beerchug.gif

Posted by: gandalf_025 Jan 10 2017, 10:39 AM

I'm not sure anyone can tell the difference between polished stainless and Chrome..?
The only issue at the time I bought my bumpers was that Harrington only made the later style rear bumper..
Not the hard edged ones for earlier care including the 6s.
No idea if they make both versions now.
Here is a picture of my car with the Harrington Rear bumper Installed. Car is still
not together.. So this is the only picture I have now. I've posted it before.

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here is a link to the thread when I got them..

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=256160&hl=stainless+bumpers

Anyone concerned about shipping from Vietnam.. Here is the Shipping tracking from DHL on mine.

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For what I would have to paid to get my original bumpers redone. This was a viable option for me.
Not for everyone though..

Posted by: Jgilliam914 Jan 10 2017, 10:55 AM

I would be up for a pair up to 1200$

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 10 2017, 01:41 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Jan 10 2017, 10:45 AM) *

Didn't someone mention the Harrington SS bumpers didn't have the same exact look/finish as chrome? Might be something to consider for the CW crowd. beerchug.gif

If you are in the CW crowd, there is no way you would be opting for the SS bumpers to begin with.

Zach

Posted by: no1uno Jan 10 2017, 01:57 PM

Interested in outcome

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 20 2017, 12:53 AM

QUOTE(no1uno @ Jan 10 2017, 02:57 PM) *

Interested in outcome

How about $1100 +shipping for a stainless steel set?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=303138

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