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Posted by: jkb944t Jan 3 2017, 08:17 PM

I installed the throttle hand lever last night and then tried to test fit the appearance group console tonight. I found that the throttle lever is too far forward to work as designed with the console.

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Has anyone run into this situation before and found a solution?

I am considering turning the throttle lever around 180 degrees but I am not sure yet if this would work correctly or not. Too tired tonight to figure anything out but was hopeful someone had dealt with this already.

Jeff B

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 3 2017, 10:38 PM

Interesting. As the consul was originally fro the later cars it was never really an "issue".
Looks like one of my consuls. If so I'd be willing to work with you to make a custom one.
Mark

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 3 2017, 11:35 PM

The Six was the only 914 with a hand throttle. The center console available on the Six was the "deposit box" type, and did not extend back to the shifter. So late console and the and throttle were never meant to go together.

Take Mark up on his offer; it will probably get you the nicest and cleanest solution possible.

--DD

Posted by: jkb944t Jan 4 2017, 06:49 AM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Jan 3 2017, 08:38 PM) *

Interesting. As the consul was originally fro the later cars it was never really an "issue".
Looks like one of my consuls. If so I'd be willing to work with you to make a custom one.
Mark


Mark, You are correct that it is one of your consuls that I got just after Thanksgiving from you along with your throttle lever kit. I will definitely take you up on the custom offer once I have a better look at what options I have for modifying the lever travel.

Thanks, Jeff B

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 4 2017, 06:51 AM

I'm thinking modifying the consul is the best option. I have a 75 with carbs so might as well prototype on mine.

Posted by: wes Jan 4 2017, 08:52 AM

I'm all ears to see the salutation.

Posted by: Kansas 914 Jan 4 2017, 09:26 AM

QUOTE(Mikey914 @ Jan 4 2017, 05:51 AM) *

I'm thinking modifying the consul is the best option. I have a 75 with carbs so might as well prototype on mine.

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I have the same issue (but factory Appearance Group console and carbs).

Posted by: jkb944t Jan 5 2017, 07:03 AM

Last night I rotated the hand throttle 180 degrees to see if that helped. It helped some but still would have interference with the vertical gauge board.

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Then I tried shifting the vertical gauge board on the console forward at the bottom and it looks like this combination might work. I would just need to move the vertical gauge board support forward and then make a new longer version of the horizontal board.

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I still need to do some more test fitting to determine the exact length increase of the horizontal board that covers the shifter.

Jeff B

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 5 2017, 08:10 AM

http://tangerineracing.com/handthrottle.htm
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Posted by: wes Jan 5 2017, 10:50 AM

So is the tangerine Racing one different?

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 5 2017, 11:44 AM

QUOTE(wes @ Jan 5 2017, 12:50 PM) *

So is the tangerine Racing one different?

It functions identically to the original, but mounts in a different place on the tunnel,
thus eliminating interference with the console.

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Jan 5 2017, 11:52 AM

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jan 5 2017, 09:44 AM) *

QUOTE(wes @ Jan 5 2017, 12:50 PM) *

So is the tangerine Racing one different?

It functions identically to the original, but mounts in a different place on the tunnel,
thus eliminating interference with the console.

Hmm, that one looks like it might work in my '66 912. I have one of Mark's on my '74 w/carbs and wanted one for my 912 but it would have to occupy the same space as the heater lever. There's no reason yours won't fit a 912 is there, Chris?

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 5 2017, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(Jonathan Livesay @ Jan 5 2017, 01:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jan 5 2017, 09:44 AM) *

QUOTE(wes @ Jan 5 2017, 12:50 PM) *

So is the tangerine Racing one different?

It functions identically to the original, but mounts in a different place on the tunnel,
thus eliminating interference with the console.

Hmm, that one looks like it might work in my '66 912. I have one of Mark's on my '74 w/carbs and wanted one for my 912 but it would have to occupy the same space as the heater lever. There's no reason yours won't fit a 912 is there, Chris?

I don't know enough about the 912 tunnel to answer.

Posted by: smj Jan 5 2017, 02:06 PM

Long term, I'd be interested in a solution to allow a later console on an factory -6 with original hand throttle. Not ready for it today, there's a cassette+EQ hung below the dash...

Posted by: mark04usa Jan 5 2017, 03:02 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jan 3 2017, 11:35 PM) *

The Six was the only 914 with a hand throttle.
--DD


The 914/4 with Sportomatic option (a rare beast) also had the hand throttle. driving.gif

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 5 2017, 03:54 PM

QUOTE(mark04usa @ Jan 5 2017, 01:02 PM) *

The 914/4 with Sportomatic option (a rare beast) also had the hand throttle. driving.gif


As far as series production goes, it was a non-existent beast. There were rumors that some prototype existed, but it was likely crushed decades ago.

--DD

Posted by: bdstone914 Jan 5 2017, 07:09 PM

How about a,syraight lever like is ised on a 911 hand throttle?

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