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Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 03:06 PM

Out comes the tranny. WEVO shift parts are on the way.

I can't believe how dirty it is back there from the 2000 mile WCC trip. I'll have to get in there with some soap and a brush.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox May 2 2005, 03:08 PM

mr O, what rear struts are those? they look orange....as to boge/ arethey koni's?

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 03:12 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 2 2005, 02:08 PM)
mr O, what rear struts are those? they look orange....as to boge/ arethey koni's?

They are Konis.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 2 2005, 03:13 PM

Joe, what happened to the 914? ohmy.gif Shifter troubles?

Maybe you should put a 2270 in it? laugh.gif icon8.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff May 2 2005, 03:15 PM

Be sure to update us on returning the Vellois parts to Patrick (if you get any grief).

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 03:17 PM

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ May 2 2005, 02:13 PM)
Joe, what happened to the 914? ohmy.gif Shifter troubles?

Maybe you should put a 2270 in it? laugh.gif icon8.gif

When I ordered the Vellios conversion kit for the tranny, I didn't know WEVO was making a better set up.

Nothing broke, but I want it to shift perfectly, so I'm changing conversion kits.

You test out the 2270 and let me know how it goes. cool.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 03:19 PM

QUOTE (Travis Neff @ May 2 2005, 02:15 PM)
Be sure to update us on returning the Vellois parts to Patrick (if you get any grief).

I've listed the parts for sale here for $1500 (negotiable). If anyone wants them, it's a good price.

Otherwise, they're going back to Patrick. He know's they're coming.

Posted by: Britain Smith May 2 2005, 04:13 PM

You will be happy with the WEVO set-up...it makes it feel like a brand new 993.

Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer...

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What other WEVO bits did you get? I have the internal gate shift on mine, I can't wait to get my car together to try it out.

-Britain

Posted by: Root_Werks May 2 2005, 04:17 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ May 2 2005, 01:17 PM)
[You test out the 2270 and let me know how it goes. cool.gif

happy11.gif (Not)

Cool, glad it is just an upgrade. I love that car! wub.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Britain Smith @ May 2 2005, 03:13 PM)
You will be happy with the WEVO set-up...it makes it feel like a brand new 993.

Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer...

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What other WEVO bits did you get? I have the internal gate shift on mine, I can't wait to get my car together to try it out.

-Britain

I have the shifter too. The gate shift mod is not in the budget right now as sorting out the tranny has become rediculously expensive.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 2 2005, 04:29 PM

holy moly joe!! must be the savings on steak, hamburger, hot dogs, and jerky that allows for such extravagance. the drive to pland will take the shine off that tranny.

k

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 2 2005, 04:35 PM

Joe, did ya spring for the hydraulic TO bearing?

see the braided lines in the pic wink.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 04:41 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 2 2005, 03:35 PM)
Joe, did ya spring for the hydraulic TO bearing?

see the braided lines in the pic wink.gif

Give me a break, would ya?

Let me have two years to pay off the car first.

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 2 2005, 04:44 PM

ohmy.gif

BTW- whens the next time your flyin out to Cali? wink.gif

AAron

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 04:51 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 2 2005, 03:44 PM)
ohmy.gif

BTW- whens the next time your flyin out to Cali? wink.gif

AAron

I'll be out sometime this week, but I'm on short calls lately so I probably won't be able to come down this time.

Posted by: redshift May 2 2005, 04:54 PM

ohmy.gif

oh my gawd! That rocks!


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Posted by: Eric_Shea May 2 2005, 04:57 PM

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Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer...


Is that Red Green's tube frame car? confused24.gif

Posted by: Joe Sharp May 2 2005, 05:04 PM

I think we could put together a So Cal dinner in Santa Monica.
What do ya think?
biggrin.gif Joe

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 05:18 PM

QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ May 2 2005, 04:04 PM)
I think we could put together a So Cal dinner in Santa Monica.
What do ya think?
biggrin.gif Joe

Absolutely, but the notice on my trips has been very short lately.

We may just be airlining out in the morning to return here in the afternoon.

I would love to get together. Let's set something up when I know my schedule and have an overnight or two.

Posted by: redshift May 2 2005, 05:47 PM

QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 06:57 PM)
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Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer...


Is that Red Green's tube frame car? confused24.gif

Looks more like some kind of particle board?



M

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 05:50 PM

QUOTE (redshift @ May 2 2005, 04:47 PM)
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 06:57 PM)
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Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer...


Is that Red Green's tube frame car? confused24.gif

Looks more like some kind of particle board?



M

chairfall.gif My first laugh today. Thanks Miles.

Posted by: Wild 6 May 2 2005, 05:52 PM

Hi Joe,
I see you didn't waste anytime pulling out the Vellios. You may be better off without the internal Wevo gate shift. It makes it a little harder to shift. Its intention is to prevent the 915 gearbox problem of selecting two gears at once. If I come to Sandia for the Pro Autosports Event this summer, you can drive my car with the gate shift and see if prefer it without the added parts.

Andy

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 05:59 PM

QUOTE (Wild 6 @ May 2 2005, 04:52 PM)
Hi Joe,
I see you didn't waste anytime pulling out the Vellios. You may be better off without the internal Wevo gate shift. It makes it a little harder to shift. Its intention is to prevent the 915 gearbox problem of selecting two gears at once. If I come to Sandia for the Pro Autosports Event this summer, you can drive my car with the gate shift and see if prefer it without the added parts.

Andy

Thanks Andy. That's a very nice offer. If you come out, you've got a place to stay. We're not very far from the track.

I've been kicking myself for not asking to drive your car at the WCC, but you know how it is. That's a lot to ask of someone.

Posted by: Wild 6 May 2 2005, 06:26 PM

I didn't even think about it or I would of let you give the Wevo a try.

Andy

Posted by: dekman May 2 2005, 06:34 PM

Hey Joe and Andy, enjoyed going around "streets of Willow" with you guys! But it looks like I'm going to have to "improve my car" if I'm going to keep up with you guys.......(my little 3.0L/901trans may need to grow up). How about a 3.8L/G50 set up? robert d.

Posted by: drew365 May 2 2005, 07:21 PM

Though I don't have a setup like you guys, the 901 in my car is out also. The main shaft broke at WCC track day. After just having the engine rebuilt, this is going to be an expensive pill. Maybe at WCC06 I'll try to harrass some of you 3.8/915 guys with my lowly 2.7/901 setup.

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 07:49 PM

QUOTE (drew365 @ May 2 2005, 06:21 PM)
The main shaft broke at WCC track day.

Doh! I didn't know that. Do you have the 904 mainshaft?

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 07:51 PM

QUOTE (dekman @ May 2 2005, 05:34 PM)
How about a 3.8L/G50 set up? robert d.

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Posted by: drew365 May 2 2005, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ May 2 2005, 05:49 PM)
QUOTE (drew365 @ May 2 2005, 06:21 PM)
The main shaft broke at WCC track day.

Doh! I didn't know that. Do you have the 904 mainshaft?

Not yet, but it appears I will shortly.

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 2 2005, 08:01 PM

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You may be better off without the internal Wevo gate shift


Andy,

Just a quick question.. Have you ever driven a WEVO 915 in a 914 "without" the gateshift ?


B

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 2 2005, 08:06 PM

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My first laugh today. Thanks Miles.


Joe not know who Red Green is?? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 08:10 PM

QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 07:06 PM)
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My first laugh today. Thanks Miles.


Joe not know who Red Green is?? biggrin.gif

ummm... no unsure.gif

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 2 2005, 08:19 PM

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Is that Red Green's tube frame car?


It's a pic from my old tube frame 914 that ScottY owns now.

I have know F-ing idea who "Red Green" is.. probably nobody and you are f-ing with us..


B

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 2 2005, 08:20 PM

Sorry didn't mean to be "that" esoteric... biggrin.gif

http://www.redgreen.com/

Posted by: redshift May 2 2005, 08:26 PM

Gee...

You ever live on a ranch? screwy.gif

Milk a horse? unsure.gif

Damned! dry.gif


M

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 08:38 PM

QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ May 2 2005, 07:19 PM)
I have know F-ing idea who "Red Green" is.. probably nobody and you are f-ing with us..


B

Brad, would you please do me the favor of typing 'fucking' on threads that I start. If you want to use the word, it's OK with me. cool.gif

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 2 2005, 08:45 PM

Ha ha.. The "puritans" would get upset with me. I use "f-ing" in public when needed.. but I rarely use the whole word. I took on the Howard Stern radio broadcast "speak".. pee pee instead of DICK.. you name it.

By no means does the above statement reflect that I give a SHIT about what people think of me.. laugh.gif


B

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 2 2005, 08:48 PM

The Red Green Show... TV's favorite "Hick" handyman. It was a particle board referrence. blink.gif

Brad, being from Indiann'r you probably thought it was a "Reality" show that's why you never watched it. w00t.gif

Posted by: redshift May 2 2005, 08:50 PM

Did that guy ever do Paris Hilton? I think so.


M

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 2 2005, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 07:48 PM)
Brad, being from Indiann'r you probably thought it was a "Reality" show that's why you never watched it. w00t.gif

oh shit that was funny lol2.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 2 2005, 09:08 PM

Aaron, your new avatar is funny as shit. laugh.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 2 2005, 09:10 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ May 2 2005, 08:08 PM)
Aaron, your new avatar is funny as shit. laugh.gif

compliments of eric shea....

oh my...the fotoshop war has just begun.....

Posted by: jgiroux67 May 2 2005, 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 06:48 PM)
The Red Green Show

Ha, I didnt know other people watched that show. It taught me the greatness of duct tape.

Crazy Canadians

Posted by: jeff May 2 2005, 09:27 PM





If you guys go to dinner in santa monica id love to join ya. beerchug.gif

Posted by: brer May 3 2005, 12:32 AM

just in case you forgot what it felt like.

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Posted by: Wild 6 May 3 2005, 10:12 AM

Brad,
I have not driven a 914 Wevo without the gate shift. I have mixed feelings about the gate shift because the shift from 2nd to 3rd and 4th to 5th have to be exaggrated (over and up). I have missed the shift from 2nd to 3rd too many times to count and that's with almost two years of track events on the car.

However, I think the gate shift does play a valuable role in saving the transmission from selecting two gears.

Andy

Posted by: Britain Smith May 3 2005, 11:18 AM

This is the tube frame car that I was talking about...

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-Britain


Posted by: SirAndy May 3 2005, 11:57 AM

QUOTE (drew365 @ May 2 2005, 05:21 PM)
The main shaft broke at WCC track day.

outsch! i guess i shouldn't have driven it ... not getting into 1st and reverse was a bad sign ...

you need any help with that?
smash.gif Andy

Posted by: Series9 May 3 2005, 01:36 PM

Right on time! The new WEVO parts are here. Hopefully the tranny will be back in the car next week.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox May 3 2005, 01:40 PM

mo pictures.....

we need a 'how to assemble a wevo 915' thread biggrin.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 3 2005, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 3 2005, 12:40 PM)
mo pictures.....

we need a 'how to assemble a wevo 915' thread biggrin.gif

I've employed the local 915 expert to handle this one. I'll post pictures if they become available.

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 3 2005, 01:47 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ May 3 2005, 12:45 PM)
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 3 2005, 12:40 PM)
mo pictures.....

we need a 'how to assemble a wevo 915' thread  :D

I've employed the local 915 expert to handle this one. I'll post pictures if they become available.

Eric Shea says you are a pansy wink.gif

Posted by: Series9 May 3 2005, 01:49 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 3 2005, 12:47 PM)

Eric Shea says you are a pansy wink.gif

Eric Shea just has his panties in a bunch over missing meeting my wife. cool.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 3 2005, 01:49 PM

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This is the tube frame car that I was talking about...


That does "not" look like Red Green's car wub.gif

That looks like "I'll put a whoop'n on you fast" beer.gif

Posted by: Wild 6 May 3 2005, 01:53 PM

After installing the Wevo side shift, do not put any fore/aft preload on the casting when you mount it in the car. In other words, don’t force it to line up with the transmission mounts. Modify the transmission mounts if they don’t align with the Wevo casting. The PO (or his mechanic) preloaded mine and it eventually snapped off the mounting ears. I had to remove the Wevo casting and have the ears TIG welded back on the casting. I then modified the mounts to eliminate the preload problem.

Andy

Posted by: TMorr May 4 2005, 11:51 AM

QUOTE (Wild 6 @ May 3 2005, 11:53 AM)
After installing the Wevo side shift, do not put any fore/aft preload on the casting when you mount it in the car. In other words, don’t force it to line up with the transmission mounts. Modify the transmission mounts if they don’t align with the Wevo casting. The PO (or his mechanic) preloaded mine and it eventually snapped off the mounting ears. I had to remove the Wevo casting and have the ears TIG welded back on the casting. I then modified the mounts to eliminate the preload problem.

Andy

OR -

You can use the new WEVO 914 SS Transmission mounts that have slotted holes to help eliminate installation "Errors"....

The SS mounts do a better job of locating the transmission - eliminating some of the skew loads that can be applied by both the soft rubber mounts, or a solid mount.

Regards

Hayden

PTB Tracey

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 4 2005, 12:00 PM

Aaron... ya makin shit up for any specific reason?

... and who say's I didn't meet your wife? Someone had to vaccum the damn house.

Posted by: East coaster May 4 2005, 07:45 PM

I wish you better luck with your Wevo conversion than I've had with mine!

The Wevo parts look good and it'll probably work OK, but it took 15 months and 6000 bucks to have the mods done. Also, I had an oiling sysem (pump, cooler, spray bars) and was ensured this would be maintained. Unfortunately when I finally got my trans the oiling system was removed (thanks alot!). I paid extra for my 915 because it had the cooling mods, now I have useless spare parts and a hole to fill before I can even put oil in it.

I was also told that the deal included the shift coupler and shift rod and somehow they didn't make into the box either.

Sorry for the rant.......but it's very discouraging to finally build your dream 914, extend yourself doing it, trying to do everything right and unfortunately trusting a "914 guru" to be honest and provide a professional service only to be dissed on schedule, price, promises and parts. I only hope the tranny actually works! I've had an expensive lesson in the "Emperor's Clothes". headbang.gif

Hmmm.....I wonder how long before this message is removed........


Posted by: Brad Roberts May 4 2005, 09:00 PM

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Hmmm.....I wonder how long before this message is removed........


I have some news for you: We dont delete threads. Anyone who STARTS a thread can delete it. When they do this.. we capture it in a holding area. So.. if you have "living" proof of a thread that was deleted... show us. I'll compare it to our "trash bin" where we collect them.

Now. Let me ask you this: Who did you write the check too for your tranny ?

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but it took 15 months and 6000 bucks to have the mods done.


I have no idea when it shipped to you, but the last time I was in that building was the first week of Dec. last year and the tranny build had just started. I wasnt around for the final assembly or shipping. 6k ? Pretty cheap considering the core that was sent to them. The pinion bearing fix alone is almost a 1k by itself. The kit was at least 1900$ if not more.

Sorry I left before the job was done.

Posted by: Duffster May 4 2005, 10:13 PM

The track day found the weaknesses in several trannies it seems. The funky noise when I pulled off the track after lunch was indeed a mid plate bearing. headbang.gif It didn't spin in the case again until I left Sean & Susie, Slits and Toast at the junction with I 15. Once I got up to trafffic speed (80 ish) it howled all the way home.

So I have reinvigorated the "curse of Mueller"... back up on da jack stands!!! 901s really weren't made to take much power on the original innards. sad.gif oh well....needed an LSD anyway.

Posted by: Wild 6 May 4 2005, 10:31 PM

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I wish you better luck with your Wevo conversion than I've had with mine!


I don't know if you are talking about the folks at Wevo, but if you are, this is my experience:

I bought my Wevo set up used and wasn't expecting much help when I called for technical support. What I got instead was awesome support. Tracey and Hayden are super responsive to their customers. I received free parts and technical support. They totally stand behind their products. I think you will be very happy in the long run.

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 4 2005, 10:57 PM

QUOTE (Duffster @ May 4 2005, 09:13 PM)
The track day found the weaknesses in several trannies it seems. The funky noise when I pulled off the track after lunch was indeed a mid plate bearing. headbang.gif It didn't spin in the case again until I left Sean & Susie, Slits and Toast at the junction with I 15. Once I got up to trafffic speed (80 ish) it howled all the way home.

So I have reinvigorated the "curse of Mueller"... back up on da jack stands!!! 901s really weren't made to take much power on the original innards. sad.gif oh well....needed an LSD anyway.

Mr duffy....

you goin 915? or complete 901 beef up?
BTW - what gears are in your 901?

lookin for an HA or a S/T

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 5 2005, 01:13 AM

He wont have any issues with the transmission. It will shift just like it was designed too.

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I was also told that the deal included the shift coupler and shift rod and somehow they didn't make into the box either.


I will make and send a shift rod out along with a coupler. I need to know what year tub I'm working with and what shift rod you will use to come out of the firewall. If you dont respond in a PM or email to me.. I'll assume you dont want it.

Posted by: Andyrew May 5 2005, 01:17 AM

Oddly enough... I didnt have any trani problems...

Maybe because I drive (the trani) easyer than my dad...

I'll hit the engine hard... but I will not in any case shock load the trani.


Hope you guys get everything fixed... I know I will be in your same boat soon....

(especially when I put my new cv's in and start doing some burnouts.....

Posted by: nein14-6 May 5 2005, 05:52 AM

914 RS,
A little side-track, how did those mufflers treat you on the trip? Do they quite the car down enough for highway use?

Posted by: Series9 May 5 2005, 09:00 AM

QUOTE (nein14-6 @ May 5 2005, 04:52 AM)
914 RS,
A little side-track, how did those mufflers treat you on the trip? Do they quite the car down enough for highway use?

They were surprisingly quiet at highway speeds. No problem.

Posted by: Series9 May 16 2005, 07:05 PM

Tranny is home:


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Posted by: Travis Neff May 16 2005, 08:12 PM

I see the tailsection looks all new, as does the mid section - was that part of the Wevo kit (mid section), or same as before?

Posted by: brp914 May 16 2005, 09:27 PM

rs,

While your box was apart did you have the fitment of main/pinion shaft races in the cases checked? Just got my 915 apart and all 4 races can be turned by hand in the case sections. I'm interested in Wevos machined-in bearing bridles. Just wondering if this might make the box noisey due to realignment. Know of anyone who has had this done?

Posted by: Series9 May 16 2005, 11:21 PM

QUOTE (brp914 @ May 16 2005, 08:27 PM)
rs,

While your box was apart did you have the fitment of main/pinion shaft races in the cases checked? Just got my 915 apart and all 4 races can be turned by hand in the case sections. I'm interested in Wevos machined-in bearing bridles. Just wondering if this might make the box noisey due to realignment. Know of anyone who has had this done?

Externally, the only thing that's new is the tail cone. Internally, many shifter parts were changed.

The rest of the tranny is essentially new.

Posted by: JOHNMAN May 16 2005, 11:25 PM

I just wish I had the cash right now to buy the Vellios parts from you. I like mine and will use it again if I can find the parts when the time comes.

Posted by: Series9 May 16 2005, 11:33 PM

QUOTE (JOHNMAN @ May 16 2005, 10:25 PM)
I just wish I had the cash right now to buy the Vellios parts from you. I like mine and will use it again if I can find the parts when the time comes.

The parts are yours on installment.

If you would like to have them, I will send them and you can pay me as your budget allows.

Posted by: Series9 May 16 2005, 11:42 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ May 16 2005, 10:21 PM)

Externally, the only thing that's new is the tail cone. Internally, many shifter parts were changed.

The rest of the tranny is essentially new.

I said this poorly.

The tranny was freshly rebuilt when the Vellios kit was installed. The internals are new.

Externally, only the tail cone is a visable difference.

Posted by: JmuRiz May 17 2005, 09:27 AM

Mmmm that's purdy wub.gif what kind of LSD are you running in there anyway?

Posted by: Series9 May 25 2005, 01:33 PM

Now I need some mounting advice from the pros. The rear housing on the WEVO conversion is too far aft for the mounting holes to line up. The literature that came with the kit warns about preloading the 'ears', which suggests to me that this is a common problem.

It would have been really nice if my $2000 kit would just bolt up, but such is not the case.

For those who have done it, how did you solve this problem?

WEVO, feel free to chime in here.

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 25 2005, 01:35 PM

i remember that they mention that their tranny mounts have ovaled mount holes to sort this misalignment issue out.

Posted by: Series9 May 25 2005, 01:39 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 25 2005, 12:35 PM)
i remember that they mention that their tranny mounts have ovaled mount holes to sort this misalignment issue out.

Then they should have been included with the kit.

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 25 2005, 01:43 PM

again dont quote me on it. but i belive that is part of the sales pitch on the tranny mounts. that they can adjust any misalignment out.

can you oval your tranny mount holes?

Posted by: Wild 6 May 25 2005, 02:09 PM

To solve the problem, I purchased the Weltmeister tranny mounts and drilled out the mounting holes. WEVO claims their mounts are already slotted.

Posted by: scott thacher May 25 2005, 02:22 PM

yes the wevo mounts have the holes slotted... ask me how i know. if you lose a bolt on the front body side it will allow them to slip far enough to come off the ear

Posted by: TMorr May 26 2005, 12:17 PM

QUOTE (914RS @ May 25 2005, 11:33 AM)
Now I need some mounting advice from the pros.  The rear housing on the WEVO conversion is too far aft for the mounting holes to line up.  The literature that came with the kit warns about preloading the 'ears', which suggests to me that this is a common problem.

It would have been really nice if my $2000 kit would just bolt up, but such is not the case.

For those who have done it, how did you solve this problem?

WEVO, feel free to chime in here.

Joe,

The WEVO 915 SideShift kit is designed so the center of the mount hole on the ear is the same dimension from the RFOB (Rear Face Of Block - nee crankcase) as the 901 transmission.

If you have misalignment with a 915 and our kit installed, you would also have misalignment with a 901 attached to the same motor in that same chassis.

The 901 uses the slot for the M12 bolt - a solution we do not like, for reasons experienced by Scott Thatcher. The slot allows the transmission mount to accommodate some misalignment, but at the risk of transmission mount security - especially if you unwittingly mount the bolt at the edge of the slot in an effort to compensate for incorrect engine mount locations.

I would suggest the following;

1) Loosen your front engine mounts - at all possible locations - and determine if they wil allow you to move the engine to a position where the bolt will go through the ear without pre-load.

2) If 1 does not work - question the front engine mount installation? is it O.E.? Is it aftermarket? what is the possibility that it is not accurately installed relative to the original transmission mount feature on the chassis?

3) If 1 did not work and 2 reveals some lattitude for error, evaluate your options. One option is the WEVO 914 SS Transmission mounts. This has some adjustment via the slotted holes. Whether or not it would be enough for the error on your car is something you need to measure. Another option, as Andy used, is to file slotted holes in 911 engine mounts. These require slots just to have the correct hole spacing for the 914 transmission mount bolt pattern, so extra slotting would be required to allow the trasnmission to be located in a non-standard location.

4) Call me and I will try and help you resolve the issue - regardless of the root cause.

The language used in the installation instructions regarding misalignment is intended to prevent people from levering the transmission into a position where the bolt "can" be "installed". The #1 unit installed in Andy's car was levered into the car so badly (installer to remain nameless) that it damaged the car and the casting and lead to a cracked casting.

We can help customers avoid this self inflicted failure by sharing that information. The speculation that it is linked to a dimensional error on the SideShift casting is without foundation.

Regards

Hayden

PTB Tracey.

Posted by: Series9 Jun 2 2005, 08:38 PM

I finished mounting the WEVO tranny in the car today. I slotted the hell out of some Weltmeister solid mounts and now it fits fine, with no 'preload'.

Now I need to sort out the shifting. To all who have done this: I would like to see pictures of your shift linkage between the firewall and tranny.


Posted by: Series9 Jun 12 2005, 07:01 PM

Yes, I took too long on this project. Liz's car and my GTI have kept me very busy over the last month.

However, I drove the RS today for the first time with the WEVO tranny! What can I say....WAY, WAY, WAY better. I fabbed up the linkage and performed the initial set-up. I got all six (w/reverse) gears the first time. Very nice. It needs a little fine tuning, but I'm already 98% there.

Someone said it would shift like a 993. Not that good, but way north of acceptable. I'm very pleased.

Pictures folllow.

#1: The front of the linkage as I received it from Patrick for the former Vellios conversion.
#2: The rear of the linkage after I stole Liz's steering linkage and modified it for this application. unsure.gif
#3: Another view of #2.


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Posted by: Series9 Jun 12 2005, 07:02 PM

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Posted by: Series9 Jun 12 2005, 07:03 PM

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Posted by: redshift Jun 12 2005, 07:20 PM

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Posted by: Series9 Jun 13 2005, 10:03 PM

Made one more adjustment on the shift linkage today.

The RS is 100%! Despite my complaints about mounting the tranny, I was really only concerned about the way it would shift.

I am extremely pleased. The RS is back in service.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jun 14 2005, 10:37 PM

I wub.gif the "U" joints. Have you ever thought about using a liniar bearing inplace of the firewall bushing? I have a couple and some persision 3/4 " shaft. I'll send you one just to play with. Even if you never use it they make a great conversation piece.

I'm traveling all week for my job. The box is taped and dry sitting in my garage. I'll try to get it shipped on Friday. wavey.gif

Posted by: Series9 Jun 14 2005, 11:01 PM

QUOTE (rick 918-S @ Jun 14 2005, 09:37 PM)
I wub.gif the "U" joints. Have you ever thought about using a liniar bearing inplace of the firewall bushing? I have a couple and some persision 3/4 " shaft. I'll send you one just to play with. Even if you never use it they make a great conversation piece.

I'm traveling all week for my job. The box is taped and dry sitting in my garage. I'll try to get it shipped on Friday. wavey.gif

Send the bearing, I'm interested.

Posted by: 914Timo Jun 15 2005, 12:37 AM

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Have you ever thought about using a liniar bearing inplace of the firewall bushing?


I have. I have a spherical bearing inplace of the bushing. Much better. Tighter. I wish I have a good pic of it......

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 15 2005, 01:22 AM

Definately bookmarking this for when I get the 915 in my car.. Wevo is what I want to go with!


Posted by: nocones Jun 15 2005, 07:37 AM

Joe,

Congats on a successful install and a smooth shifting RS!
I've been interested to hear your results. I've got the 915 behind my V8 and will be doing the WEVO once funds allow.
It's nice to hear from an another unbiased owner.
Enjoy the ride and let us know how the bearing works out.

Posted by: MW 914 Jun 15 2005, 09:31 AM

Damn that is a clean car. I would venture to guess that your tranny alone is worth more than my entire car.

Looks good!

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