Out comes the tranny. WEVO shift parts are on the way.
I can't believe how dirty it is back there from the 2000 mile WCC trip. I'll have to get in there with some soap and a brush.
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mr O, what rear struts are those? they look orange....as to boge/ arethey koni's?
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mr O, what rear struts are those? they look orange....as to boge/ arethey koni's? |
Joe, what happened to the 914? Shifter troubles?
Maybe you should put a 2270 in it?
Be sure to update us on returning the Vellois parts to Patrick (if you get any grief).
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Joe, what happened to the 914? Shifter troubles? Maybe you should put a 2270 in it? |
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Be sure to update us on returning the Vellois parts to Patrick (if you get any grief). |
You will be happy with the WEVO set-up...it makes it feel like a brand new 993.
Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer...
What other WEVO bits did you get? I have the internal gate shift on mine, I can't wait to get my car together to try it out.
-Britain
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[You test out the 2270 and let me know how it goes. |
QUOTE (Britain Smith @ May 2 2005, 03:13 PM) |
You will be happy with the WEVO set-up...it makes it feel like a brand new 993. Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer... What other WEVO bits did you get? I have the internal gate shift on mine, I can't wait to get my car together to try it out. -Britain |
holy moly joe!! must be the savings on steak, hamburger, hot dogs, and jerky that allows for such extravagance. the drive to pland will take the shine off that tranny.
k
Joe, did ya spring for the hydraulic TO bearing?
see the braided lines in the pic
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 2 2005, 03:35 PM) |
Joe, did ya spring for the hydraulic TO bearing? see the braided lines in the pic |
BTW- whens the next time your flyin out to Cali?
AAron
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 2 2005, 03:44 PM) |
BTW- whens the next time your flyin out to Cali? AAron |
oh my gawd! That rocks!
m
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Here is a picture of it installed on the tranny in the tube frame 914 racer... |
I think we could put together a So Cal dinner in Santa Monica.
What do ya think?
Joe
QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ May 2 2005, 04:04 PM) |
I think we could put together a So Cal dinner in Santa Monica. What do ya think? Joe |
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Is that Red Green's tube frame car? |
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Looks more like some kind of particle board? M |
Hi Joe,
I see you didn't waste anytime pulling out the Vellios. You may be better off without the internal Wevo gate shift. It makes it a little harder to shift. Its intention is to prevent the 915 gearbox problem of selecting two gears at once. If I come to Sandia for the Pro Autosports Event this summer, you can drive my car with the gate shift and see if prefer it without the added parts.
Andy
QUOTE (Wild 6 @ May 2 2005, 04:52 PM) |
Hi Joe, I see you didn't waste anytime pulling out the Vellios. You may be better off without the internal Wevo gate shift. It makes it a little harder to shift. Its intention is to prevent the 915 gearbox problem of selecting two gears at once. If I come to Sandia for the Pro Autosports Event this summer, you can drive my car with the gate shift and see if prefer it without the added parts. Andy |
I didn't even think about it or I would of let you give the Wevo a try.
Andy
Hey Joe and Andy, enjoyed going around "streets of Willow" with you guys! But it looks like I'm going to have to "improve my car" if I'm going to keep up with you guys.......(my little 3.0L/901trans may need to grow up). How about a 3.8L/G50 set up? robert d.
Though I don't have a setup like you guys, the 901 in my car is out also. The main shaft broke at WCC track day. After just having the engine rebuilt, this is going to be an expensive pill. Maybe at WCC06 I'll try to harrass some of you 3.8/915 guys with my lowly 2.7/901 setup.
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The main shaft broke at WCC track day. |
QUOTE (dekman @ May 2 2005, 05:34 PM) |
How about a 3.8L/G50 set up? robert d. |
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Doh! I didn't know that. Do you have the 904 mainshaft? |
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You may be better off without the internal Wevo gate shift |
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My first laugh today. Thanks Miles. |
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Joe not know who Red Green is?? |
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Is that Red Green's tube frame car? |
Sorry didn't mean to be "that" esoteric...
http://www.redgreen.com/
Gee...
You ever live on a ranch?
Milk a horse?
Damned!
M
QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ May 2 2005, 07:19 PM) |
I have know F-ing idea who "Red Green" is.. probably nobody and you are f-ing with us.. B |
Ha ha.. The "puritans" would get upset with me. I use "f-ing" in public when needed.. but I rarely use the whole word. I took on the Howard Stern radio broadcast "speak".. pee pee instead of DICK.. you name it.
By no means does the above statement reflect that I give a SHIT about what people think of me..
B
The Red Green Show... TV's favorite "Hick" handyman. It was a particle board referrence.
Brad, being from Indiann'r you probably thought it was a "Reality" show that's why you never watched it.
Did that guy ever do Paris Hilton? I think so.
M
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 07:48 PM) |
Brad, being from Indiann'r you probably thought it was a "Reality" show that's why you never watched it. |
Aaron, your new avatar is funny as shit.
QUOTE (914RS @ May 2 2005, 08:08 PM) |
Aaron, your new avatar is funny as shit. |
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ May 2 2005, 06:48 PM) |
The Red Green Show |
If you guys go to dinner in santa monica id love to join ya.
just in case you forgot what it felt like.
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Brad,
I have not driven a 914 Wevo without the gate shift. I have mixed feelings about the gate shift because the shift from 2nd to 3rd and 4th to 5th have to be exaggrated (over and up). I have missed the shift from 2nd to 3rd too many times to count and that's with almost two years of track events on the car.
However, I think the gate shift does play a valuable role in saving the transmission from selecting two gears.
Andy
This is the tube frame car that I was talking about...
-Britain
QUOTE (drew365 @ May 2 2005, 05:21 PM) |
The main shaft broke at WCC track day. |
Right on time! The new WEVO parts are here. Hopefully the tranny will be back in the car next week.
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mo pictures.....
we need a 'how to assemble a wevo 915' thread
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 3 2005, 12:40 PM) |
mo pictures..... we need a 'how to assemble a wevo 915' thread |
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I've employed the local 915 expert to handle this one. I'll post pictures if they become available. |
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 3 2005, 12:47 PM) |
Eric Shea says you are a pansy |
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This is the tube frame car that I was talking about... |
After installing the Wevo side shift, do not put any fore/aft preload on the casting when you mount it in the car. In other words, don’t force it to line up with the transmission mounts. Modify the transmission mounts if they don’t align with the Wevo casting. The PO (or his mechanic) preloaded mine and it eventually snapped off the mounting ears. I had to remove the Wevo casting and have the ears TIG welded back on the casting. I then modified the mounts to eliminate the preload problem.
Andy
QUOTE (Wild 6 @ May 3 2005, 11:53 AM) |
After installing the Wevo side shift, do not put any fore/aft preload on the casting when you mount it in the car. In other words, don’t force it to line up with the transmission mounts. Modify the transmission mounts if they don’t align with the Wevo casting. The PO (or his mechanic) preloaded mine and it eventually snapped off the mounting ears. I had to remove the Wevo casting and have the ears TIG welded back on the casting. I then modified the mounts to eliminate the preload problem. Andy |
Aaron... ya makin shit up for any specific reason?
... and who say's I didn't meet your wife? Someone had to vaccum the damn house.
I wish you better luck with your Wevo conversion than I've had with mine!
The Wevo parts look good and it'll probably work OK, but it took 15 months and 6000 bucks to have the mods done. Also, I had an oiling sysem (pump, cooler, spray bars) and was ensured this would be maintained. Unfortunately when I finally got my trans the oiling system was removed (thanks alot!). I paid extra for my 915 because it had the cooling mods, now I have useless spare parts and a hole to fill before I can even put oil in it.
I was also told that the deal included the shift coupler and shift rod and somehow they didn't make into the box either.
Sorry for the rant.......but it's very discouraging to finally build your dream 914, extend yourself doing it, trying to do everything right and unfortunately trusting a "914 guru" to be honest and provide a professional service only to be dissed on schedule, price, promises and parts. I only hope the tranny actually works! I've had an expensive lesson in the "Emperor's Clothes".
Hmmm.....I wonder how long before this message is removed........
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Hmmm.....I wonder how long before this message is removed........ |
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but it took 15 months and 6000 bucks to have the mods done. |
The track day found the weaknesses in several trannies it seems. The funky noise when I pulled off the track after lunch was indeed a mid plate bearing. It didn't spin in the case again until I left Sean & Susie, Slits and Toast at the junction with I 15. Once I got up to trafffic speed (80 ish) it howled all the way home.
So I have reinvigorated the "curse of Mueller"... back up on da jack stands!!! 901s really weren't made to take much power on the original innards. oh well....needed an LSD anyway.
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I wish you better luck with your Wevo conversion than I've had with mine! |
QUOTE (Duffster @ May 4 2005, 09:13 PM) |
The track day found the weaknesses in several trannies it seems. The funky noise when I pulled off the track after lunch was indeed a mid plate bearing. It didn't spin in the case again until I left Sean & Susie, Slits and Toast at the junction with I 15. Once I got up to trafffic speed (80 ish) it howled all the way home. So I have reinvigorated the "curse of Mueller"... back up on da jack stands!!! 901s really weren't made to take much power on the original innards. oh well....needed an LSD anyway. |
He wont have any issues with the transmission. It will shift just like it was designed too.
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I was also told that the deal included the shift coupler and shift rod and somehow they didn't make into the box either. |
Oddly enough... I didnt have any trani problems...
Maybe because I drive (the trani) easyer than my dad...
I'll hit the engine hard... but I will not in any case shock load the trani.
Hope you guys get everything fixed... I know I will be in your same boat soon....
(especially when I put my new cv's in and start doing some burnouts.....
914 RS,
A little side-track, how did those mufflers treat you on the trip? Do they quite the car down enough for highway use?
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914 RS, A little side-track, how did those mufflers treat you on the trip? Do they quite the car down enough for highway use? |
Tranny is home:
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I see the tailsection looks all new, as does the mid section - was that part of the Wevo kit (mid section), or same as before?
rs,
While your box was apart did you have the fitment of main/pinion shaft races in the cases checked? Just got my 915 apart and all 4 races can be turned by hand in the case sections. I'm interested in Wevos machined-in bearing bridles. Just wondering if this might make the box noisey due to realignment. Know of anyone who has had this done?
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rs, While your box was apart did you have the fitment of main/pinion shaft races in the cases checked? Just got my 915 apart and all 4 races can be turned by hand in the case sections. I'm interested in Wevos machined-in bearing bridles. Just wondering if this might make the box noisey due to realignment. Know of anyone who has had this done? |
I just wish I had the cash right now to buy the Vellios parts from you. I like mine and will use it again if I can find the parts when the time comes.
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I just wish I had the cash right now to buy the Vellios parts from you. I like mine and will use it again if I can find the parts when the time comes. |
QUOTE (914RS @ May 16 2005, 10:21 PM) |
Externally, the only thing that's new is the tail cone. Internally, many shifter parts were changed. The rest of the tranny is essentially new. |
Mmmm that's purdy what kind of LSD are you running in there anyway?
Now I need some mounting advice from the pros. The rear housing on the WEVO conversion is too far aft for the mounting holes to line up. The literature that came with the kit warns about preloading the 'ears', which suggests to me that this is a common problem.
It would have been really nice if my $2000 kit would just bolt up, but such is not the case.
For those who have done it, how did you solve this problem?
WEVO, feel free to chime in here.
i remember that they mention that their tranny mounts have ovaled mount holes to sort this misalignment issue out.
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ May 25 2005, 12:35 PM) |
i remember that they mention that their tranny mounts have ovaled mount holes to sort this misalignment issue out. |
again dont quote me on it. but i belive that is part of the sales pitch on the tranny mounts. that they can adjust any misalignment out.
can you oval your tranny mount holes?
To solve the problem, I purchased the Weltmeister tranny mounts and drilled out the mounting holes. WEVO claims their mounts are already slotted.
yes the wevo mounts have the holes slotted... ask me how i know. if you lose a bolt on the front body side it will allow them to slip far enough to come off the ear
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Now I need some mounting advice from the pros. The rear housing on the WEVO conversion is too far aft for the mounting holes to line up. The literature that came with the kit warns about preloading the 'ears', which suggests to me that this is a common problem. It would have been really nice if my $2000 kit would just bolt up, but such is not the case. For those who have done it, how did you solve this problem? WEVO, feel free to chime in here. |
I finished mounting the WEVO tranny in the car today. I slotted the hell out of some Weltmeister solid mounts and now it fits fine, with no 'preload'.
Now I need to sort out the shifting. To all who have done this: I would like to see pictures of your shift linkage between the firewall and tranny.
Yes, I took too long on this project. Liz's car and my GTI have kept me very busy over the last month.
However, I drove the RS today for the first time with the WEVO tranny! What can I say....WAY, WAY, WAY better. I fabbed up the linkage and performed the initial set-up. I got all six (w/reverse) gears the first time. Very nice. It needs a little fine tuning, but I'm already 98% there.
Someone said it would shift like a 993. Not that good, but way north of acceptable. I'm very pleased.
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#1: The front of the linkage as I received it from Patrick for the former Vellios conversion.
#2: The rear of the linkage after I stole Liz's steering linkage and modified it for this application.
#3: Another view of #2.
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Made one more adjustment on the shift linkage today.
The RS is 100%! Despite my complaints about mounting the tranny, I was really only concerned about the way it would shift.
I am extremely pleased. The RS is back in service.
I the "U" joints. Have you ever thought about using a liniar bearing inplace of the firewall bushing? I have a couple and some persision 3/4 " shaft. I'll send you one just to play with. Even if you never use it they make a great conversation piece.
I'm traveling all week for my job. The box is taped and dry sitting in my garage. I'll try to get it shipped on Friday.
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I the "U" joints. Have you ever thought about using a liniar bearing inplace of the firewall bushing? I have a couple and some persision 3/4 " shaft. I'll send you one just to play with. Even if you never use it they make a great conversation piece. I'm traveling all week for my job. The box is taped and dry sitting in my garage. I'll try to get it shipped on Friday. |
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Have you ever thought about using a liniar bearing inplace of the firewall bushing? |
Definately bookmarking this for when I get the 915 in my car.. Wevo is what I want to go with!
Joe,
Congats on a successful install and a smooth shifting RS!
I've been interested to hear your results. I've got the 915 behind my V8 and will be doing the WEVO once funds allow.
It's nice to hear from an another unbiased owner.
Enjoy the ride and let us know how the bearing works out.
Damn that is a clean car. I would venture to guess that your tranny alone is worth more than my entire car.
Looks good!
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