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Posted by: HalfMoon Mar 13 2017, 05:14 PM
The 89-94 Nissen 240-SX pop up headlight delete used to be the ticket for doing a pop up headlight delete on the 914, but sadly they're no longer available anywhere that I can find.
Any new ideas for the pop up delete or anyone know a source for the 240-SX's
Posted by: Mueller Mar 13 2017, 05:38 PM
That is part of the cars character. Keep 'em.
Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 13 2017, 06:16 PM
I like the pop ups, I think the shape of the surround even looks good when up.
Only aftermarket/custom setup I thought looked good were the projection beams housed in the turn signal housings someone on here did.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 13 2017, 06:23 PM
always loved the pop up. One of the things that make our cars special.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 13 2017, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Mar 13 2017, 04:14 PM)
The 89-94 Nissen 240-SX pop up headlight delete used to be the ticket for doing a pop up headlight delete on the 914, but sadly they're no longer available anywhere that I can find.
Any new ideas for the pop up delete or anyone know a source for the 240-SX's
Maybe you would get luckier if you called it the Niss
an
240sx or Niss
an s13 like all the kewl kids
Press the EASY button \/
http://www.automotivepartsfactory.com/p/89-94-Nissan-240sx-Dual-Halo-Headlights-Chrome-68295889.html
Posted by: Perry Kiehl Mar 13 2017, 08:33 PM
I'm mostly a purist when it comes to 914 headlights.
I've yet to see what I'd term a visible headlight set up that I liked, but that's just me. It's your car so do whatever you think is cool.
Our 914 friends in OKC Jim and Laurie Blakewell had a custom 6 conversion where they had grafted the eyebrows to the headlight doors. They looked a little tall with the headlights up, but not bad. It was different without being strange looking.
Posted by: HalfMoon Mar 13 2017, 10:11 PM
QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:32 PM)
QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Mar 13 2017, 04:14 PM)
The 89-94 Nissen 240-SX pop up headlight delete used to be the ticket for doing a pop up headlight delete on the 914, but sadly they're no longer available anywhere that I can find.
Any new ideas for the pop up delete or anyone know a source for the 240-SX's
Maybe you would get luckier if you called it the Niss
an
240sx or Niss
an s13 like all the kewl kids
Press the EASY button \/
http://www.automotivepartsfactory.com/p/89-94-Nissan-240sx-Dual-Halo-Headlights-Chrome-68295889.html
I'll certainly check these guys. Site said "in stock ready to ship". I'll call em tomorrow. I had checked at least 20 vendors (with the correct spelling I might add) and all had reported that when they called the manufacturer to make an order (not a single one of them had any parts actually in stock) they were unable to obtain them. Last known date of production was 2012. If anyone has them they're old stock on a shelf somewhere.
I'll owe ya a beer if you found one of them!
Posted by: Mike Bellis Mar 13 2017, 10:30 PM
I'm a master of destruction...
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 13 2017, 10:36 PM
They had to be trimmed to fit, so maybe the answer is just to make your own?
The bulb housing should have a brand name on it somewhere. Mike is the only member I know that has them on his car. Ask if he really likes them, as I think they are actually fog lights. I've got a couple good uses for them if I could find real headlights that compact.
Booyah free beer
https://www.amazon.com/89-94-Nissan-240SX-Dual-Headlights/dp/B00D6UBL90
Posted by: mark04usa Mar 13 2017, 10:37 PM
QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Mar 13 2017, 11:30 PM)
I'm a master of destruction...
Yes, so I see.
Posted by: boxsterfan Mar 14 2017, 12:08 AM
Are there not junkyards full of 240SX headlights? Your going to have to paint them anyway I would assume.
Posted by: twistedstang Mar 14 2017, 05:18 AM
QUOTE(boxsterfan @ Mar 14 2017, 02:08 AM)
Are there not junkyards full of 240SX headlights? Your going to have to paint them anyway I would assume.
The headlights in question were an aftermarket option, not the OE lights.
Posted by: AndyB Mar 14 2017, 05:23 AM
Personally I like them. I think they are a light that actually looks good on the 914. But like any other custom part you just need to take your time until you get it the way you like it.
Posted by: RobW Mar 15 2017, 12:15 PM
Lights up keep the front down at high speeds...
Posted by: barefoot Mar 15 2017, 01:21 PM
The only thing i dislike about pop-up headlights is that I can't instantly flash someone ahead as a safety measure. I guess you could wire the fog lights to flash with the dimmer switch to do that.
Posted by: 914forme Mar 15 2017, 02:36 PM
QUOTE(barefoot @ Mar 15 2017, 03:21 PM)
The only thing i dislike about pop-up headlights is that I can't instantly flash someone ahead as a safety measure. I guess you could wire the fog lights to flash with the dimmer switch to do that.
http://www.jwesteng.com/shop/electrical-914/9-914-fog-light-module.html" The JWest fog light module allows you to use the high-beam switch on the column to flash your fog lights when the headlights are off."
Posted by: Alphaogre Mar 15 2017, 02:44 PM
The other option is just to pull the motor out, don't have them pop up and run a larger brighter lower light.... Like the 935.
In fact, my updated fog lights provide 2X the light as my headlights haha
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 15 2017, 02:57 PM
QUOTE(Alphaogre @ Mar 15 2017, 04:44 PM)
The other option is just to pull the motor out, don't have them pop up and run a larger brighter lower light.... Like the 935.
In fact, my updated fog lights provide 2X the light as my headlights haha
Illegal on a street car.
Posted by: iwanta914-6 Mar 15 2017, 03:06 PM
QUOTE(Alphaogre @ Mar 15 2017, 03:44 PM)
The other option is just to pull the motor out, don't have them pop up and run a larger brighter lower light.... Like the 935.
Something like this?
I know that car has been shown around the forums for a long time, but one of the few modified 914s that I really like.
Posted by: SKL1 Mar 15 2017, 10:40 PM
I remember way back someone had a clear covers that didn't move with light underneath similiar to what was on the 924 Carrera GT. They were flat and actually looked pretty good, compared to those above which I personally don't care for at all.
BTW, someone had come up with a way to flash the fog lights also way back when. I remember wiring that setup in the parking lot of a motel at my first Porsche Parade at Lake Geneva WI back in 1972!!! Back then, we flashed at other Porsche we met on the road, though at the time some 911 drivers wouldn't acknowledge a 914...
Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 16 2017, 09:42 AM
I've installed the J West fog light module on all of my 914s. Easy and effective.
Posted by: Jamie Mar 16 2017, 10:01 AM
QUOTE(RobW @ Mar 15 2017, 10:15 AM)
Lights up keep the front down at high speeds...
Not! The downforce flow dynamics of the lights in the closed position is better than the drag induced when the lights are up at highways speeds. I can actually feel the induced drag when I open the lights at speed, must eat up a couple of my 80 HP!!!
Posted by: raw1298 Mar 17 2017, 05:18 AM
Working on it right now. Found on ebay.
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Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 17 2017, 08:52 AM
Not my style but Bellis and Randy are stylin' Mike's car is one of the most technology rich hybrid 914 conversions out there. Fast too! I think he beat me at WCR last year. Course, I was looking out my back window more than my front!
Randy's car is coming around! Looks like you're getting close to paint!
Posted by: Garland Mar 17 2017, 09:51 AM
For the 2016 Build-Off Challenge I deleted the pop up's, and installed the lamps into the turn housings. Here are two pictures, and a link to my build for how I did it.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=265772&view=findpost&p=2375311
Posted by: 914forme Mar 17 2017, 10:36 AM
And then there is this one.
Mike Nugget also just aded a set from a Geo Metro into the bumper Fog light area.
Taken from his old website on the build
Mike's solution is not street legal, but I doubt he ever got pulled over for it.
Posted by: Alphaogre Mar 17 2017, 11:36 AM
Posted by: Alphaogre Mar 17 2017, 11:40 AM
Another option is you just get a piece of plexie cut to replace the top of the "pop up" shell then mount the lights on the back of the bucket, not sure if the angle is enough, though...
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 17 2017, 01:46 PM
QUOTE(Alphaogre @ Mar 17 2017, 10:40 AM)
Another option is you just get a piece of plexie cut to replace the top of the "pop up" shell then mount the lights on the back of the bucket, not sure if the angle is enough, though...
Been there done that. As you say the angle is not enough, had to trim the top of the fiberglass bumper to get light on the road.
Do a Honda 3.2 swap and it's justified
Posted by: matthepcat Mar 17 2017, 07:24 PM
QUOTE(Alphaogre @ Mar 17 2017, 10:36 AM)
^^ I like this ^^
Posted by: HalfMoon Mar 22 2017, 09:10 PM
QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Mar 13 2017, 10:32 PM)
QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Mar 13 2017, 04:14 PM)
The 89-94 Nissen 240-SX pop up headlight delete used to be the ticket for doing a pop up headlight delete on the 914, but sadly they're no longer available anywhere that I can find.
Any new ideas for the pop up delete or anyone know a source for the 240-SX's
Maybe you would get luckier if you called it the Niss
an
240sx or Niss
an s13 like all the kewl kids
Press the EASY button \/
http://www.automotivepartsfactory.com/p/89-94-Nissan-240sx-Dual-Halo-Headlights-Chrome-68295889.html
Und her isn der beer
They arrived the other day. Good on ya mate
TY
D
Posted by: HalfMoon Mar 22 2017, 09:13 PM
QUOTE(Garland @ Mar 17 2017, 11:51 AM)
For the 2016 Build-Off Challenge I deleted the pop up's, and installed the lamps into the turn housings. Here are two pictures, and a link to my build for how I did it.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=265772&view=findpost&p=2375311
That's quite slick!
Posted by: boxsterfan Mar 22 2017, 10:23 PM
QUOTE(914pipe @ Mar 22 2017, 09:10 PM)
Just for reference...
The only down side is if you hit hard the pavement, it will crack. I'm working on the body right know, that's why is so dusty..... Hate bodywork...!!!
I think it looks pretty good (sans dust). Given the body work, I wonder if the much maligned "996/boxster fried egg lights/turn signal" could ever be worked into a good lookng mod.
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