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Posted by: RobW Mar 20 2017, 10:51 AM

What are the various options for /6 oil lines?

I found this one:

http://www.elephantracing.com/oilhandling/914coolerkit/914plumbingkit.htm

What other options are out there?

Posted by: mepstein Mar 20 2017, 11:22 AM

I made my own with stainless steel lines and AN fittings. I bought 30' of line and all the fittings for about $500. The oil cooler with the fan pack and thermostat was about $500. -12 lines all around.

Posted by: Steve Mar 20 2017, 11:26 AM

I ran steel braided lines, front to back along the same path. Installed it 25 years ago, no issues so far.

Posted by: colingreene Mar 20 2017, 11:44 AM

I could be wrong but I think that PMB has a solution for this.

Posted by: McMark Mar 20 2017, 12:12 PM

IMHO, hard lines are pretty, but expensive and harder to install. I emphatically prefer not to use them. These conversions are expensive enough without spending more on hard lines to hide behind the rocker panel.

Stainless braided AN lines.

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 20 2017, 12:30 PM

Elephant kit is really good looking, and if it were closer to $1500 in price I'd do it. It's just too $$ for me (unless someone convinces me it's worth it).

All, what's the best method for routing braided AN lines to a front cooler. I'm not a fan of running hot oil inside the cabin, so if that can be eliminated as a bonus....

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Mar 20 2017, 12:54 PM

I took a couple of old lines and removed the ends and had a Hydraulic hose guy reinstall them on a new hose.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 20 2017, 01:36 PM

There's no one "right" way to do it. It has a lot to do with whether or not you are running a front oil cooler. For me, since I deleated the - on engine cooler, it was a clean install to run one line up the driver side and a return line down the passenger side. I also added a "T" to make oil changes easier.


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Posted by: Marv's3.6six Mar 20 2017, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Mar 20 2017, 11:30 AM) *

Elephant kit is really good looking, and if it were closer to $1500 in price I'd do it. It's just too $$ for me (unless someone convinces me it's worth it).

All, what's the best method for routing braided AN lines to a front cooler. I'm not a fan of running hot oil inside the cabin, so if that can be eliminated as a bonus....


Me also not a fan on running inside of cabin. I routed lines outside and went up inside drivers side wheel well and pierced body by the radio antenna hole using AN fittings. Clean looking and no extra heat brought inside the cabin.



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Posted by: GeorgeRud Mar 20 2017, 04:16 PM

I ran AN-12 braided hose along the passenger side to a front cooler years ago and also have had no issues with the set-up.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 20 2017, 04:17 PM

Elephant makes good stuff. I installed a set on the wife's 911SC. Even if some doofus uses a jack under the oil lines now, they won't crush like the stock ones did.

That said, they were a bit of a challenge to fit. Those things are so strong that it is hard to correct any mis-fit. And since our 914s are less than perfect out of the factory, it could be a royal pain to install them.

I'm not a big fan of braided stainless lines in general, but this might be an excellent use for them. Especially if the lines are in an area that is exposed to any debris at all, like in the wheel well.

--DD

Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 21 2017, 08:39 AM

I had braided steel lines in my last Six, a '70. I never had a problem with them. However, for this Six, (my last one) I really wanted to step it up a bit and went with these lines. A bit expensive, but they are beautiful and once I became aware of them, that was it. BTW, that door gap is not a finish gap; Scotty was just checking things out for fitment.

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Posted by: sixaddict Mar 21 2017, 09:04 AM

Cairos are beautiful.....I have seen
I have run a set through heater ducts
Ok if not needed
Protected and minimal exposure
Be sure to add thermostat if any cold weather exposure

Posted by: campbellcj Mar 21 2017, 10:08 AM

Mine are AN-12 braided stainless thru the heater ducts, one on each side, but I have no heaters...

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 21 2017, 11:52 AM

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What are the various options for /6 oil lines?


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Posted by: mepstein Mar 21 2017, 12:43 PM

When Russo pointed out to me that most of the race cars, including the 962 and mirage in our shop, have stainless lines, that sealed the deal for me. Now you can get fittings in black instead of old school blue and red.

Posted by: SKL1 Mar 21 2017, 02:21 PM

Just made AN10 lines for an external cooler on my '73 2.0. Cut the hose and used Russell hose ends and the Koul Tool. Actually pretty easy and kind of a fun project. Lots of colour choice on the fittings too...

Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 21 2017, 03:19 PM

Are you guys using SS teflon or rubber lines?

I've run SS teflon 3/8" lines in my Gene Berg type 1 FF engine since the early 90's without issue.

Also for a front cooler how much hose is required?

Posted by: SixerJ Mar 21 2017, 04:07 PM

Cairo, are those GT copies. I didn't think anyone was making them? Rob, sorry the the hijack

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