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Posted by: Sea Dragon 914 Mar 22 2017, 11:21 AM

I'm considering shooting my own car this summer. I am thinking of using two stage paint and will be painting the exterior up to the weather rubber channels in the trunks and the door jambs.

Anyone know about how many gallons of paint it will take to shoot? I'm thinking three coats of base followed by two or three coats of clear. I've already finished most of the body work and have most of the car stripped and primered.

Thanks

Posted by: Olympic 1.7 Mar 22 2017, 01:31 PM

I painted the whole car inside and out.

For the undersides, inside the trunks and interior I used 5 quarts of PPG JAU two part single stage.

For the outside of the body, door jams, underside of trunk lids etc. I bought 1Gal of PPG DCC Concept, also single stage. Did 4 coats

not trying to sell PPG here, but its what I used.

I still have to paint the front trunk lid and it looks like I will have maybe under a quart of paint left.

Keep in mind the mix needed, this paint is 4-2-1 paint/reducer/hardener, so 1 gal of paint equals 1 3/4 gal of "ready to spray" (RTS) mixture

I would estimate 1 gal each of paint and clear with the correct reducers and hardeners should give you some left over to account for any mistakes, or future repairs. Its good to have extra of the same paint on hand rather than counting on a paint shop to get an exact match when mixing another batch.

Also plan on getting epoxy primer and some high build primer.

Posted by: AZ914 Mar 22 2017, 03:56 PM

Disclaimer - I'm not a painter.

My friend painted the exterior of mine and the jams (2 stage), we bought a gallon of DuPont Nason.
I think he did 2 oats of base and ended up with 2 quarts left. Not sure how much clear was used.

I later had him re-do the front fenders, hood, behind the front bumper, and inside the front and rear trunks.. that was about another quart. It really doesn't take much if done right.

Posted by: 914GT Mar 22 2017, 08:33 PM

A lot of things go into how much base is required in addition to the area to be sprayed. Lower cost base (Nason, Limko, etc.) will take more coats to get full coverage then more expensive paints (Chromabase, Diamont, etc.). Lighter colors like yellow and white may need more coats to ensure maximum coverage then darker colors. I probably use a little more metallic over solid colors to allow getting the metallic evenly distributed on the final spray passes.

The last full 914 paint job I did a few years ago was L80E ivory and I used a bit less then 1.5 gallons of base which was reduced out 2:1, so about 2 gallons sprayed on. However this included painting inside the trunks, engine bay and completely underneath the car (done on rotisserie). For just the outside panels and jambs you should be able to do that easily with under one gallon of a good quality base and reduced per manufacturer's mixing instructions. Best to error by putting on more coats then necessary rather then trying to skimp on paint, then noticing shading variation with the primer showing through the basecoat later. The darker colors and reds are going to hide the primer better then say yellow or white, but important to get full coverage regardless of the color. If you are painting for the first time you probably should plan on minimum three coats with enough flash time between coats. A gallon of clear + activator + reducer (if needed) will be more then enough for two coats over your base coat.

Always good to have some base left over in case of future repairs or you want to paint inside the trunks. The base will hold up for several years kept tightly sealed in the can and away from heat.

Posted by: Sea Dragon 914 Mar 23 2017, 10:07 AM

Thanks for the input. As I'm a newbie, I'll go with the two gallons as you suggest. I'm repainting the car the original Aubergine and will be not be painting the bottom (not rotisserie) and don't plan on painting the trunks. I may do the engine compartment when I pull the engine but that's later.

Not sure I'm going to dive into this or not. My buddy has a paint booth but I'm not sure it's currently accessible. We'll see and I'll post if I do it myself.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Mar 23 2017, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Sea Dragon 914 @ Mar 23 2017, 11:07 AM) *

I'm repainting the car the original Aubergine


Can't say that I've seen one in Aubergine before...

Posted by: jd74914 Mar 23 2017, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Olympic 1.7 @ Mar 22 2017, 02:31 PM) *

For the outside of the body, door jams, underside of trunk lids etc. I bought 1Gal of PPG DCC Concept, also single stage. Did 4 coats

not trying to sell PPG here, but its what I used.

I still have to paint the front trunk lid and it looks like I will have maybe under a quart of paint left.


I used the same paint and same quantities on the outside. The only difference is that I had to redo the lids so I was left with almost no paint.

Posted by: Calwaterbear Mar 23 2017, 11:33 AM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Mar 23 2017, 09:38 AM) *

QUOTE(Sea Dragon 914 @ Mar 23 2017, 11:07 AM) *

I'm repainting the car the original Aubergine


Can't say that I've seen one in Aubergine before...


I can't say I even knew that was a color? guess you learn something everyday!

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 23 2017, 11:41 AM

Typically base/clear your base coat with 1 gallon of paint + reducer will yield ~ 1.5gal paintable. Plus 1 gal clear and 1quart hardener = 1.25 gal paintable.

For trunks/interior you do one-2 coats clear, for body panels 3 coats clear probably the minimum I would do. I might say more as you have more protection as well as more room for wetsanding if you plan to do that.

I imagine this should be enough for a small 914. For my car I went single stage. Paint+reducer+hardener gave me about 1.6 gals sprayable. I sprayed my body with 7 light coats, plus the undersides of the trunk, plus I sprayed the trunk twice and the roof twice. I still have about 1/3gal of paint left, reducers/hardeners expire so I dont really worry about that.

Posted by: dlkawashima Mar 23 2017, 02:20 PM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Mar 23 2017, 09:38 AM) *

QUOTE(Sea Dragon 914 @ Mar 23 2017, 11:07 AM) *

I'm repainting the car the original Aubergine


Can't say that I've seen one in Aubergine before...

IPB Image

Posted by: mepstein Mar 23 2017, 02:32 PM

QUOTE(dlkawashima @ Mar 23 2017, 04:20 PM) *

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Mar 23 2017, 09:38 AM) *

QUOTE(Sea Dragon 914 @ Mar 23 2017, 11:07 AM) *

I'm repainting the car the original Aubergine


Can't say that I've seen one in Aubergine before...

IPB Image

Great color. Just had a 911 in that color in the shop. Every one loved it.

Posted by: Krieger Mar 24 2017, 09:41 AM

AKA eggplant!

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