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Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 05:34 PM

this might be the one for me

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4548340644&fromMakeTrack=true

does any one know this car and rough range of what its worth?

Posted by: ! May 5 2005, 05:42 PM

First line....I'm listing this for a friend.....

Sellers seem to think that exempts them from any responsibility for misrepresentation.

"I" would eyeball that puppy before bidding.

Posted by: StratPlayer May 5 2005, 05:45 PM

Seems to be the new trend these days,,, selling for a friend, how stupid do they think the buyers are.

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 06:00 PM

trying to contact seller. i haven't found this in local classifieds yet. and do plan on looking at this one. its only about 1.5 hrs away. i dont think i believe the 14,000 miles.
my concren is that they think its worth its weight in gold.
and no pic. of the engine bay or underside, make me think they're hiding something or don't know much about these cars.

Posted by: ! May 5 2005, 06:02 PM

Do you home work and read the 914 buying FAQ....

Posted by: Yoei66 May 5 2005, 06:17 PM

Looks like it's in nice shape, but as far as that odomoter reading….something smells rotten in Denmark

Posted by: Mueller May 5 2005, 06:25 PM

QUOTE (Yoei66 @ May 5 2005, 05:17 PM)
Looks like it's in nice shape, but as far as that odomoter reading….something smells rotten in Denmark

did you read the ad???

motor said to be rebuilt 15,000 miles ago (same as what the speedo reads)...it is very common to re-calibrate speedo to match engine miles......miles on motor are sometimes more important than the miles on the car.....of course an hour meter could be usefull as well

Posted by: Tom73 May 5 2005, 06:27 PM

Looks like a new paint job. And that will make any car look great in pics.

Posted by: Yoei66 May 5 2005, 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Mueller @ May 5 2005, 04:25 PM)

QUOTE (Yoei66 @ May 5 2005, 05:17 PM)
Looks like it's in nice shape, but as far as that odomoter reading….something smells rotten in Denmark

did you read the ad???

motor said to be rebuilt 15,000 miles ago (same as what the speedo reads)...it is very common to re-calibrate speedo to match engine miles......miles on motor are sometimes more important than the miles on the car.....of course an hour meter could be usefull as well

Opps, missed that in the ad.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 5 2005, 07:08 PM

seeing the rear trunk with the pad out would be nice. the front too. print out a buyers guide at pelican and study it. look under the carpets. esp at the firewall bottom behind the seats. familiarize yourself with the "hell hole" in the engine compartment, the engine shelve area in front of the battery. there will be sound deadening padding. bring a good flashlight with you and spend a couple of bucks on an ice pick to probe around with. what's your spending limit? determine that before you even look at a car. look at the cars in the classifieds here to help you with your pricing basis. not knowing where you are located in the p.s. area, see if you can find one up north that's rougher than you would care to have. when you can really see wher the rust is, it helps you know where the rust hides . nice looking cars in washington can be nightmares. email the seller and ask what it would take to end the auction NOW and get back to us.

k

Posted by: Bleyseng May 5 2005, 07:12 PM

looks good for $100

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty May 5 2005, 07:16 PM

Right door panel has been really wet. Left door panel looks like it's coming apart .................... Not good. The Cap'n

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 07:40 PM

thanks guys.
i have looked at one all ready it was a 75 with the pass. long crumbling by the front of the door. and front trunk drivers side front low. and pass side floor up front.all rusted thru holes.
and rhody, i live up by millcreek / snohomish area.
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i have seen prices all over the place from 1,500 to 4,500. the 4,500 one had rust at the batt. and some body rust lower door and 189,000 miles. engine rebuild by local mech. and repait by " family friend" boat painter by trade.

i've met root-werks and saw his lastest and have based my expectations on that.

Posted by: Bleyseng May 5 2005, 08:28 PM

Dave @ Triad has a Yellow 74 2.0l for sale in the NWPca ads. Its the yellow car that Dave Said was working on when he died. All the guys finished it afterwards for him.
Should be a good car to buy as it was solid when I saw it last year.....

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 08:38 PM

can you give me a link to it

how much?

Posted by: Bleyseng May 5 2005, 08:56 PM

http://www.pnwr.org/classifieds/adDetail.asp?cat_id=3&sub_id=0&ad_id=503

73 2.0l

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 09:02 PM

wow!!!!!! about twice what i want to spend

Posted by: Bleyseng May 5 2005, 09:17 PM

You just missed out on the Craigslist car for $700. Dan Root finally had his arm twisted to take it, I couldn't due to no room left.
He fixed a couple a things and sold it back East to a Club member.
Black 74 2.0L but it isn't in the same league as the yellow car IF its the same car I am thinking of.

Always buy the BEST 914 you can get your hands on as they just plain cost double or triple what you think to fix up.

Roger might be interested in selling his yellow 75.....ok car but needs lots of cash to get right.

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 09:30 PM

now see there i go... missing out on a deal again.

i met dan at his house while he was working on his lastest 6 conversion [i think ]seems that he goes thru alot of these.

he gave his phn nmbr. maybe i should call him and give him mine so i can get the next one.

i can do the mechanical work, but want a solid body.

i dont know if i should mention what he told me he paid for the orange 1.7 he just did the 6 in. he said he paid maybe a little to much but that is his fav. color.

Posted by: reverie May 5 2005, 09:44 PM

Just sent you a pm..

Roger

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 09:54 PM

thanks sent you back one

Troy

Posted by: Bleyseng May 5 2005, 09:58 PM

WTF is all this private talkie talkie? You guys making a deal?

I want a beer out of the deal!!!

I heard what Dan paid for it , well he actually posted it on here!

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 10:11 PM

so did he pay to much? {dan}

a beer huh?

that depends if there is a deal going on.

Posted by: Bleyseng May 5 2005, 10:24 PM

No, he didn't pay too much IMHO...a nice 914 is getting hard to find up here.

Thought maybe since Roger PM'd you maybe there was a deal going on. He has considered selling his 914 on and off again.

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 10:29 PM

he hasn't pm me back.

maybe i asked too many questions .

you guys have taught me well!

i might want to have a phone conversation tonight if he'll pm me

Posted by: reverie May 5 2005, 11:28 PM

Sorry, just got back.. PM on the way.

Yeah, that is true, Geoff.. hey maybe if Troy looks at it this weekend, you can swing by?

Posted by: messix May 5 2005, 11:37 PM

TAG ROGER YOUR IT [PM]

Posted by: boxstr May 5 2005, 11:49 PM

i dont know if i should mention what he told me he paid for the orange 1.7 he just did the 6 in. he said he paid maybe a little to much but that is his fav. color.

Please tell us how much Dan paid?? I am curious.
CCLINROOTWERKES

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 12:07 AM

sorry... i can't

not sure if if he was telling me confidentially to help a newbie get an idea of what these things go for.

beside as far as i can tell it seems you and he have a business relationship going. wouldn't feel right if i gave you the upper hand.

some one else said he gave it up on another thread.

i might be calling you about if you have anything in stock as far as decient drivers.

Posted by: reverie May 6 2005, 01:26 AM

Ack!!! Troy, I can't do it... I can't bear to sell my teener.

All those who understand, raise your brewskis!

Or whatever you're holding..

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 01:52 AM

not fare.....tease

Posted by: reverie May 6 2005, 02:01 AM

Yeah, I know.... sorry, bro.

Breakfast is on me next time... but not pancakes.

Posted by: sixnotfour May 6 2005, 02:32 AM

He (Dan Root) bought the car from Akers in Seattle, I told him about it.

Craig needs to buy the Speedster mark akers has. (Turbo Engine) offer?

There is a couple of 914's at Detriot Auto in Lynnwood Wa. 4k Blk 2.0

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 10:10 AM

thanks Jeff.

have you taken a look at them? what kind of condition are they in?

i might run over and take a look today.

Posted by: sixnotfour May 6 2005, 10:17 AM

The black one in the back is the one look at , they cant get it running . fuel pump prob,
Has been there a long time . runs good when running ,paint is nice color change brown to black but not the trunks. Check it out and Giv em hell

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 10:20 AM

solid body? rust?

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 10:36 AM

QUOTE (messix @ May 6 2005, 08:20 AM)
solid body? rust?

I have offered them money on that black car I think 4 times now. It is a loooong story, been on thier lot for 2 years too.

yeah, seems to be a very rust free car. Ran great, but has a elect prob. No dash lights, no fuel pump, no spark, but turns over. My guess is bad contacts. It is a re-paint (paint job sucks) over brown. Trunks not painted.

Troy - If you want, give me a buzz and we can go down and look at sometime. The just love me down there.

My orange 914 from Akers. Yeah, I have a thing for L20E cars. Looking back, I would have been money ahead to grab the blue car from Craig. But I wanted orange. I paid $3800 for it. It's a really solid car, but I still wound up replacing the engine shelf and ripping out the battery tray to make things perfect. It came with Koni adjustables on all 4 corners with factory sway in rear and bigger one up front. VERY solid car. So $3800? Eh, I would have liked to pay $3200 for it, but the sways and Koni's are worth $750 just in parts. They look brand new too. So $3800 was about right, not a deal, just the going rate for the car. Oh, was a 1.7, sold eng for $300, so a little money back from that.

Hey Troy, I have the 914 running now (I was wiring when he stopped by). Swing by and we'll take it for a spin.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 10:42 AM

Here it is, the $3800 1.7 that now sports a 2.4ROW six. And yes, it still has the 1.7 badge on it. I have surprised a few people with it. Sleeper.

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Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 10:49 AM

thanks Dan. have you seen the prices that being asked for in the local ads?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/71107548.html

http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/caddetail.html?/ad-cache/10/6/3/78364963.htm

these are just a couple that i have found.

i think i'm best to try to buy from some one with in the club.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 10:51 AM

oh hey whats days are you off for me to come buy? of course i'll call first

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 10:56 AM

QUOTE (messix @ May 6 2005, 08:51 AM)
oh hey whats days are you off for me to come buy? of course i'll call first

Weekends, always have weekends off. My wife (Michelle) and I took the six out yesterday to visit a house we use to have on Camano Island. Top off, sun was out, really nice drive. These cars rock.

Where is Craig? It would be hard to believe he wouldn't have something for you? Is CAMP all out of 914-4's? He just had a couple of 2.0's.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:03 AM

he has some spendy stuff. unless he has others that aren't on his web site, i'm looking for something a bit less than $7,200.

but i haven't called him yet. i thought i would see what i could get locally.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:06 AM

Yeah, I just checked his site, looks like all the 4's are sold. I sent you a PM on one in Des Mios. Black 73 2.0. Looks okay in the picture.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:07 AM

Here it is, looks like a small dent in the door?

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Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:08 AM

yeh i just pm'd you .

is that the good side?

Posted by: sixnotfour May 6 2005, 11:10 AM

You guys see the blue 914 in the back ground on top of rollbar.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:12 AM

Hmm, there is another blue 914 in the background. Possibly this guy is into the cars? If so, a call should reviel a lot.

If you call and it sounds interesting, let me know. We'll go down and check it out.

Good side? Maybe? Chrome bumpers, I like the tires/wheels.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:13 AM

QUOTE (sixnotfour @ May 6 2005, 09:10 AM)
You guys see the blue 914 in the back ground on top of rollbar.

Yep.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:17 AM

i think i will call. i'm going to tell him i'm going to bring my restoration specialist to inspect the car. maybe i'll get the straight scoop on the true condition.

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:25 AM

QUOTE (messix @ May 6 2005, 09:17 AM)
i think i will call. i'm going to tell him i'm going to bring my restoration specialist to inspect the car. maybe i'll get the straight scoop on the true condition.

Good idea, if you tell him you will be bringing a "914 guy" with you, they usually spill the beans about anything they can think of.

I had one guy tell me his 914 was "rust free" as I reached under, grabbed some rust and handed it to him. he was totally shocked and asked where I got that from. Some owners don't know the cars, so you always have to just go take a look for yourself.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:32 AM

hey Dan did you see one thttp://seattle.craigslist.org/car/71107548.htmlhis
body looks clean, i like the wheels [personal pref.]

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:44 AM

looks like the link isn't working.

its a 75 in u-district white 4,500 from craigs list

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:47 AM

QUOTE (messix @ May 6 2005, 09:44 AM)
looks like the link isn't working.

its a 75 in u-district white 4,500 from craigs list

I got to it, nice car! U-Dist huh? Hmm, I work here. Wonder how close it is?

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:49 AM

looks like a 1.8 you and i might be able to beat them down to a real resonable price

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:50 AM

pic

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Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:51 AM

rear

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Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:52 AM

The whole look of the car is pretty cool. White, clear lenses, neg PORSCHE lettering on the side and the Empi non painted 8 spoke rims set off the whole car.

Yeah, I wonder what low miles means?

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 11:57 AM

I called and spoke to Shaun. Sounds like a college kid. I didn't ask anything about the car. But when I go for my run today at Lunch, I think I will head down that way. He is just off of 55th and 30th. I will give a full report when I return.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 11:58 AM

yah on a thirty year old car? when most cars get 15k to 20k a year put on them. are you at work today? would you want to take a quick look if i call them and i can find out where this car is?

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 12:00 PM

your ahead of me.

thank you very much.

if it looks that good i can go down tomorrow.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 12:10 PM

Dan i' pm you my phone number .

Posted by: rdauenhauer May 6 2005, 12:57 PM

Wow I feel like Ive been on another planet, for a week; (Travel to Atlanta)
Troy I live in Mill Creek and have a Fixxer If that intrests you.
Stop on by and Ill show you the collection.

Posted by: messix May 6 2005, 01:01 PM

thank you

i might. i'm looking for some thing i can use as a driver pretty much right on the get go

Posted by: Root_Werks May 6 2005, 01:25 PM

I have your number Troy and will give you a call.

Rich, welcome back man!

So here is the report: Owner not there (college kid) so I poked around best I could.

Paint - Pretty nice, usual paint chips here and there. Mostly around the door edges and front. Only one little rust bubble just behind the drivers door panel. Could easily just be waxed and look really nice.

Rust - Tough to do with everything locked up, but no rust under sail panel vinyl, no other rust bubbles I could find anywhere. Stuck my fat head under as far as I could, longs look great from bellow. Shoved my hand up the rear wheel well trying to poke for rust, could'nt get anything to pick or scrape off. Couldn't see anything but old undercoating, it felt really solid. There is a Optima red top in the car and I could see a battery clamp holding it in place, so looks like even the battery tray is solid. No front pan rust that I could see. No surface rust along the cowell (lower windshield)

glass - all there, no cracks or de-lamination. Rear window de-frogger.

Tires/wheels - nice, very nice, probably not that old.

Top - nice finish still. rear corners just a little chewed up, but not bad at all. headliner and front bulster still in place and very nice.

Int - Very nice. with exeption of what looked like a repair patch on drivers seat. Center console with gauges all in very nice shape. VERY nice carpet, not stock. I couldn't find one crack on the dash, but there was a sun shield blocking some of the view. Backpad/ seats and door panels are tan. New carpet was black. Very nice looking inside.

Shocks - all 4 shot - didn't see any sway bars.

Locks - car was locked, so they probably work.

E-Brake - may not work or may not be set correctly. Car was parked on a hill with wheel turned in and resting pretty heavy against it.

Eng - well, didn't hear it run of course. But it is still FI and looks stock. Muffler is shot, but a really cool dual tip desing with a nice mathcing rear valiance. I would replace the mufflers and keep the system. I imagine is sounds really nice. One muffler is blown out.

Overall - $4500, probably a little steep. I don't think this 914 has any rust that would make me turn away. It if runs out good, drives straight, new shocks, mufflers.... I would say $3600-4000. It is a really nice 914 that no one has F'd up yet.

Troy - I will call you with this report, but wanted to get what I could down before I started to forget it.