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Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 03:11 PM

If timing the car (moving the dizzy) doesnt affect RPM at all (at idle) then wtf is going on? Usually it ranges from 500-1500 all across the board.....somebody help

Posted by: Aaron Cox May 10 2005, 03:16 PM

get a timing light.

time it, and be done. blink.gif

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 03:19 PM

yeaqh i have one, but it makes no difference in sound, idle rpm or performance where the dizzy is.....do i have a vaccuum leak? is it running rich? how do i tell?

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 03:20 PM

in fact the performance very sucks much

Posted by: skline May 10 2005, 03:25 PM

My advice to you? Marry a Porsche or VW mechanic. You seem to run into a lot of problems with your car and you should have one at your house all the time. biggrin.gif

Posted by: lapuwali May 10 2005, 03:29 PM

Changing the timing DOES affect idle speed. Advancing will generally increase idle speed up to a point. Retarding will decrease idle speed right down to the point where the engine will stall.

If changing the timing DOESN'T affect idle speed, well...hm.

Set the timing to factory specs with the light. Rev the engine up to 3000 and make sure the timing actually advances. Past about 3500rpm, it should stop advancing. If there are other problems, you can at least eliminate timing as one of the causes.

Is this EFI or carbs?

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 03:42 PM

D-Jet FI...and NO girl around here knows VWs....i'll check it out tonight.....it works great, just not too peppy like it used to be.

Posted by: Mueller May 10 2005, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 10 2005, 02:42 PM)
D-Jet FI...and NO girl around here knows VWs....i'll check it out tonight.....it works great, just not too peppy like it used to be.

who said anything about "girls"??? laugh.gif biggrin.gif wacko.gif

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 03:50 PM

yah miles said something like that last night...WTF? i'm straight. I have a girlfriend already.

Posted by: SGB May 10 2005, 03:57 PM

Remove distributor cap and see if the advance mechanism is hanging up. If nothing else, you should be able to twist the dizzy guts to see shifting of the advance mechanism. I had a .050 become "fixed", and the accel was F L A T .

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 03:59 PM

okay....i'll check that.. i completly forgot about that AND that will probably affect the response to turning the dizzy.....what should i oil the mechanism with....? Light machine oil or motor oil?

Posted by: redshift May 10 2005, 04:02 PM

Dolphin wax

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 04:05 PM

why do you use dolphin wax? do the goats like that better?

Posted by: redshift May 10 2005, 04:12 PM

No, the goat likes duck butter.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox May 10 2005, 04:13 PM

hijacked his son's thread.....


son of miles and Bessy the goat,
Britt 'goatboy' dodd biggrin.gif

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 04:17 PM

laugh.gif miles are you coming to louisville on the 22nd?

Posted by: redshift May 10 2005, 04:17 PM

No

Posted by: lapuwali May 10 2005, 04:19 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 10 2005, 01:59 PM)
okay....i'll check that.. i completly forgot about that AND that will probably affect the response to turning the dizzy.....what should i oil the mechanism with....? Light machine oil or motor oil?

Theoretically, dielectric grease. However, motor oil will do. Dolphin wax just gums up the works, and duck butter is an electrical insulator, so the whole thing would stop working entirely.

Check the timing and advance with a light first. If you see the timing change as you rev the engine, the advance mechanism isn't stuck. Check to see that it advances enough. It it appears stuck, or it doesn't advance enough, then check the advance weights.

Posted by: bd1308 May 10 2005, 04:22 PM

i have both...i'll use dielectric grease then, cause i believe its a water insulator

Posted by: SLITS May 10 2005, 05:22 PM

Hmmmmm, I thought the standard was KY Warming Gel......makes things slide easy and gives you that warm fuzzzy feeling.

What do ducks and goats know anyway?

Posted by: bd1308 May 11 2005, 12:45 AM

good insight ron, must be that insider inner-circle 914 Aaron thing....don't tear your O-Ring though.....

Posted by: xsboost90 May 11 2005, 05:59 AM

if you need some help you can always bring it up to cincy and our team of expert staff can make an educated guess. chatsmiley.gif

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