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Posted by: 87m491 May 23 2017, 06:39 AM

Doing my fronts this past weekend. When I got the hub off I found what I'm pretty sure was #37 (rubber ring) in the part sheet below. The ones on my car were swollen and pretty ratty. They seemed just to be floating around in the hub, so not sure of their purpose.

Can someone tell me where exactly they are supposed to sit? Can I just replace them with a similar sized O ring?
Happy to have BTDTs on how much "spare" grease to place in the hub after I repack the new bearings.

Hopefully up for this weekend as the bearing kit I just bought was apparently for a 6 even though adverted for a 4 and the seal and bearings were all wrong.

thx.


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Posted by: r_towle May 23 2017, 06:55 AM

I don't recall a rubber ring there, just the bearing seat, the bearing, and the rubber seal. They are installed in that order.

Posted by: mepstein May 23 2017, 07:05 AM

Lots of people leave off the O ring but mine was on the dust cap when I pulled apart the hubs so I put it back in the same place. I dont think it has to be factory porsche, just something to make a seal against the hub.

Posted by: 6freak May 23 2017, 07:07 AM

[quote name='r_towle' date='May 23 2017, 05:55 AM' post='2488829']
I don't recall a rubber ring there,

me neither! but its been a long time since I've been in there, but there it is #37
id say yes find one that works with grease and go for it...good luck
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Posted by: Kansas 914 May 23 2017, 08:17 AM

QUOTE(6freak @ May 23 2017, 07:07 AM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 23 2017, 05:55 AM) *

I don't recall a rubber ring there,


me neither! but its been a long time since I've been in there, but there it is #37
id say yes find one that works with grease and go for it...good luck
smile.gif

They are (or should I say WERE there) from the factory. I pulled apart some front end parts a few months ago that came from a early (1971 maybe) parts car - I still have it sitting on my bench. They rarely got replaced after the cap was removed the first time. I don't know anyone that is putting them back on today, probably because they are tough to find. I did some research and found a VW part number but no inventory.

Posted by: 87m491 May 23 2017, 08:50 AM

Ahh, not sure why this bulb did not go off sooner. Is the O ring supposed to sit on the shoulder of the bearing cap? That make sense as the rear hub seal keeps the grease from going out the back, this keeps it from going out the front side. I thought because I found them in the hubs, they were supposed to be inside there.

If that's where it goes, I'm definitely going for a NAPA piece for 99 cents.

PN is out there #421839455 and available at dealers between $5-$7. Seems overkill as mine certainly weren't doing anything and the hubs were not leaking.

thx

QUOTE(Kansas 914 @ May 23 2017, 06:17 AM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ May 23 2017, 07:07 AM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 23 2017, 05:55 AM) *

I don't recall a rubber ring there,


me neither! but its been a long time since I've been in there, but there it is #37
id say yes find one that works with grease and go for it...good luck
smile.gif

They are (or should I say WERE there) from the factory. I pulled apart some front end parts a few months ago that came from a early (1971 maybe) parts car - I still have it sitting on my bench. They rarely got replaced after the cap was removed the first time. I don't know anyone that is putting them back on today, probably because they are tough to find. I did some research and found a VW part number but no inventory.


Posted by: mepstein May 23 2017, 09:00 AM

Yes smile.gif

QUOTE(87m491 @ May 23 2017, 10:50 AM) *

Ahh, not sure why this bulb did not go off sooner. Is the O ring supposed to sit on the shoulder of the bearing cap? That make sense as the rear hub seal keeps the grease from going out the back, this keeps it from going out the front side. I thought because I found them in the hubs, they were supposed to be inside there.

If that's where it goes, I'm definitely going for a NAPA piece for 99 cents.

PN is out there #421839455 and available at dealers between $5-$7. Seems overkill as mine certainly weren't doing anything and the hubs were not leaking.

thx

QUOTE(Kansas 914 @ May 23 2017, 06:17 AM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ May 23 2017, 07:07 AM) *

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 23 2017, 05:55 AM) *

I don't recall a rubber ring there,


me neither! but its been a long time since I've been in there, but there it is #37
id say yes find one that works with grease and go for it...good luck
smile.gif

They are (or should I say WERE there) from the factory. I pulled apart some front end parts a few months ago that came from a early (1971 maybe) parts car - I still have it sitting on my bench. They rarely got replaced after the cap was removed the first time. I don't know anyone that is putting them back on today, probably because they are tough to find. I did some research and found a VW part number but no inventory.



Posted by: Kansas 914 May 23 2017, 09:01 AM

QUOTE(87m491 @ May 23 2017, 08:50 AM) *

If that's where it goes, I'm definitely going for a NAPA piece for 99 cents.


Let us know what part you end up sourcing at NAPA. Thanks!

Posted by: 87m491 May 23 2017, 04:49 PM

Here you go. A buck or so at NAPA, though now that I see where it goes, you might try the next smaller size than 2".

Old vs New

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On the hub shoulder where the cap would sit against it.

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QUOTE(Kansas 914 @ May 23 2017, 07:01 AM) *

QUOTE(87m491 @ May 23 2017, 08:50 AM) *

If that's where it goes, I'm definitely going for a NAPA piece for 99 cents.


Let us know what part you end up sourcing at NAPA. Thanks!

Posted by: r_towle May 23 2017, 06:45 PM

I keep learning things here!

Posted by: 87m491 May 24 2017, 05:54 AM

Now a better question, after fully repacking the new bearings, how much "extra" grease do folks leave in the hub? Either on the spindle or under the cap?
thx

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 23 2017, 04:45 PM) *

I keep learning things here!


Posted by: 6freak May 24 2017, 07:01 AM

QUOTE(87m491 @ May 24 2017, 04:54 AM) *

Now a better question, after fully repacking the new bearings, how much "extra" grease do folks leave in the hub? Either on the spindle or under the cap?
thx

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 23 2017, 04:45 PM) *

I keep learning things here!


oh the 64K dollar ? IMO not much 0 in the cap, its not a grease cup its a dust cover have fun
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