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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:29 AM

I've another thread running on another forum and I thought it a good idea to have one here too as this forum has taught me so much over the years. Quite frankly I'd never have started it without the knowledge you guys have shared. Thanks.

Some of the earlier posts are a few months old but I'll repost them in order here up to where I am right now. From there on I'll post simultaneously.

I've had the car now for coming up to 11 years. It hasn't had much use in the last few years due to personal circumstances but I've always wanted to do a flared six conversion, the dream I know a lot of guys share here. At the end of last year that dream started to become a reality cheer.gif

I tentatively put feelers out for an engine. Barely a week later I'd done a deal on a rebuilt 204bhp 3.0SC engine that was now fitted with PMOs. Exactly what I wanted.

I intend to do as much work on the car as possible, sure I'll need professional help down the line, my welding skills are limited. But I'll be giving it my all and I hope my perfectionist nature helps me achieve the results I'm after. The only part I know I won't tackle is the paint, that part will be done by a professional.

As a reminder this is how the car looked. It's a good car, not perfect but a very clean, solid example that had paint about fifteen years ago, it had also been converted to carbs many years back. There was a couple of small bubbles here and there but so far after further investigation I'm yet to find anything major.

http://s176.photobucket.com/user/defianty/media/914/914GB.jpg.html

Starting the strip down.

http://s176.photobucket.com/user/defianty/media/914%20Restoration/IMG_20161129_123853.jpg.html


I'm looking forward to the journey and sharing it with everyone.

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:30 AM

Things have been a bit stop start on the car and although I'd like to be further ahead that I am, I'm happy with the progress.

However plans have changed slightly! What originally was six conversion and then a GT rep-a-like too is now all of that and pretty much a nut-and-bolt restoration. It snowballed! I decided that I was just not going to be happy doing half a job. laugh.gif

I've been stripping and cataloguing the car for sometime now and I'm finally at the stage where it's just one piece of metal albeit with doors, boot lid and bonnet still attached for safe keeping. No ones tells you just how much space a car takes up when you strip it. Car parts everywhere! :shock:

Overall I'm really impressed with the condition of the car. The excessive amount of underseal that was applied to the car years ago has really done its job thankfully. Removing the stuff has been the bane of my life though, it's everywhere and I mean everywhere. The control arms are covered, the struts, brake lines, cables - it's f£$*ing everywhere :evil:

Getting there...
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After cleaning up, nice original paint.
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It's never all good news though, I had always suspected the offside rear wing had had a knock in the past. A poke around the other day revealed this.

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:shock: Lovely, but it's what I expected. Fortunately I picked up a nice used rear wing a few months ago so it'll all be replaced and made good.

Corrosion wise I think I got away lightly, just a few areas that need attention. The sills were both full of crud around the jacking points. The drainage hole just aren't big enough and it's a common problem with 914's used in the rain frequently and not cleaned properly.

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They'll both be removed and replaced with new.

There's a small amount of rust in the hell hole which is easily sorted and a large patch on the firewall due to a soggy sound pad. Usual 914 stuff. Other than a small patch at the base of the windscreen on the scuttle that's it, so not bad at all.

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:31 AM

After weeks of stripping the car and cleaning I decided I needed a change and to work on something a little more exciting.

Since buying another engine lid I've been eager to cut it up and make a GT style engine lid. Now I've seen many takes on this and people have different opinions on the best way of doing it. After plenty of research this is what I decided on.

One crusty engine lid ready for surgery!
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Cut out arear marked
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Radiused corners to match the existing
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Volia!
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And of course you can't forget the Sladey holes! laugh.gif
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Lots of fettling later
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Altogether I think it came out well. I want to tidy up the end of the new grill by welding in a plate to make it all flush. I'll get to this after I get the lid back from media blasting.

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:32 AM

In order to save on space I've decided to start with the suspension. In its current flithy state I don't fancy stashing it away in the loft so I thought I'd break it down and get to making it all as new. Obviously I had to remove another couple of pounds of f$*&ing underseal! :evil:

Rear removed and partly cleaned. Shocks and springs will be replaced - more on that later.
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Front components - again shocks to be replaced.
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New bushes, ball joints and bearings ordered. All were in fairly poor shape and needed to be replaced. Quite how the ball joints made it though the last MOT I'll never know!

Cataloging everything before plating and powder coating where necessary. I found visulising it this way made it all seem really simple and easy to mark out items that need to be replaced with new. Only time will tell when I come to put it all back together! laugh.gif

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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:32 AM

Received my front brake calipers back from Classic Car Automotive a few days ago. Looks like they've done a great job and an extremely quick turnaround too. I specifically asked for a plain zinc finish and they did just that.

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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:33 AM

I've been held up for a few weeks as the powder coater was on holiday and I only dropped parts off to him last week. And despite dropping off all the parts to be plated three weeks ago to the platers, it's all still sitting there in the bucket I delivered it in. Slightly frustrating but they did explain restoration projects take a back seat to their mainstream work.

Last week Rich (abzadams) came down for the day to lend a hand and help pull out the wiring loom. Definitely a two man job, and not one I was looking forward too. It's surprising though after spending so much time on the car I can almost identify any wire and name where it goes. All of a sudden the wiring doesn't look as daunting as I first thought. The fun though, will be mating up with the SC harness several months down the line; a job I'm really not relishing.


Almost there...
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Rather than just strip the car and pack it away I decided to restore parts along the way, it was nice to be able to jump back and forwards and also rewarding to see parts being refreshed.

I won't go in to any detail and most of these have been covered in detail many times before.

Despite being upgraded with bronze bushes at some time in its past the pedal cluster was looking a little rough so I set about stripping and repainting. I also added a new set of bronze bushes for good measure.

Before
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Making full use of that targa roof!
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After - Much nicer.
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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:33 AM

There was no way this was going back in the car like this. Look like a PO had taken a paint brush to it in the past.

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Strip and repaint. Just waiting for a new grip and a couple of small parts to arrive.
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Believe is or not under multiple layers of underseal is an indicator/sidelight housing
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I actually combined two sets of light to get the best set. After a bit of work they now look like this. Just a bit of tweaking and they're done.
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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:34 AM

After much deliberation I decided to have the just the shell media blasted. I spoke to several people about the benefits and pitfalls of both blasting and dipping and decided for my project blasting is the best way to go. As the lids and doors are very good they won't be touched. So it'll be off in a few weeks and I can't wait to get it back.

Before that there was a few jobs I wanted to tackle. First was removing the dreaded tar soundproofing. I decided dry ice was the way to go but one morning I was staring at the car wondering what to do next and I thought I'd give the soundproofing a go with a heat gun and scraper...

1.5 Hours later... Nowhere near as hard as I thought it would be. The reward was a nice solid floor with just a couple of small patches of light surface rust... Phew!
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For a few years 914's had this support structure in the front trunk. It's shape followed the outline of the spare wheel and on top rested a carpet covered floorboard. The early cars didn't have this and it needed to be removed in order to add a front oil cooler. So out it came, although not as easily as I'd hoped, but it was my first time doing something like this.

Making a start...
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Doing the easy bits first laugh.gif
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The last part being rather stubborn! Above that part is the base of the headlight housing when the lights are down. It's just over the spot welds making this impossible to drill out.

Finally done and partly cleaned up.
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Next was to remove the no longer needed 4-cylinder engine mounts. It's not an essential job for a six conversion but makes for a cleaner finish and more in keeping with an original six.

Here's the, like everything else, covered in underseal drivers side mount.
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And a few hours later! Thick metal and in places three layers thick. After that I can't say I'm looking forward to the other side.
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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:34 AM

I've been buying parts for both the restoration and conversion along the way but as yet held off from buying lots as there never seems to be enough room to store everything! I'm sitting here in my den at my computer. On the desk to my right are my new rear coil springs to my left my fuel sender - broken, my fault :evil: I'll cover that story another day when that mini project is over. I've also got all of the cars glass behind me begging me to trip over it and an exhaust for another project.

However on the other side to the room is this...
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A NOS 914-6 oil tank. Scored for a price less than a replica from the US. I'm just a bit happy about that.

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:35 AM

Not much work has happened on the shell the last couple of weeks. I decided it was time to upgrade my compressor and stupidly sold the old one before it's replacement arrived. And when it did arrive it was DOA. Long boring story but I finally got another one yesterday and I'm in business again.

Whilst that was going on I got to restoring a few other bits and pieces.

Starting with these.

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They were in a shocking condition and despite trying the method Darren used to restore his, painting them was going to be the only solution. The internals were all revamped too. Those white thumbscrews had yellowed significantly over the years but a bath in bleach and Vanish for a week brought them back to life laugh.gif

So with the back lights done it was on to the front.

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Yes they needed work and it was time to replace the old sealed units with some H4's

Fully stripped and repainted. I found that RAL 7046 Telegray 2 was a fairly good match to the original and ordered an aerosol from an online supplier.

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And finished with all new fittings and H4 connector as the originals shattered when I touched them.

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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:35 AM

I may have got a bit carried away with this one, but what's the point in going to all this effort if you don't do everything laugh.gif

Yuck!
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Much better laugh.gif
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This was whilst I was waiting for the compressor to arrive. I needed anything to pass the time. laugh.gif

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:36 AM

Ooh shiny bits! laugh.gif

I needed a local powder coater and a friend said he knew of one but had not experience with them. He turned out to be a bit tricky to track down and to be honest a little aloof over the phone. Anyway as is quite often the case he turned out to be a great guy, a one man operation and does work for most well known Porsche/VW restorers in Essex. He'd done it all before and knew exactly what parts needed to be masked. Less than a week later I collected everything.

http://www.shotbeadaquablasting.co.uk

Here's just a sample. Really lovely work.

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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:36 AM

I didn't have quite as good an experience with the plating. Certainly a lesson learnt with this one.

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Most of it is great but some parts could have been cleaned a lot better. Next time I'll clean it all up myself before I hand it over.

Now there's quite a few bits there and as it's my first time doing this I was sure to catalogue, photo and measure everything. Although daunting when I got everything back six, yes six weeks later! I knew I could rely on my system.

What I hadn't prepared for was the amount of missing parts :shock: :evil: washers, nuts, spacers, bolts you name it. No pattern to what was missing, almost like someone had grabbed a couple of handfuls and thrown it away! Needless to say I wasn't happy and their response was to blame me. :evil:

Typically quite a few of the parts were NLA but after a week of searching here and there almost everything is now accounted for. I just now have about a dozen bits that need plating and no plater nearby. sad.gif

One of the two parts I couldn't replace were three missing seat runner washers so I knocked these up yesterday morning. I used metal that I cut out from the front of the car so you could say they're almost original. laugh.gif

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So just one last piece to find. A large washer that's part of the gearbox mount. I might ask Sladey if he can use his new found enthusiasm to make me one. I'll drop him a PM when he gets back from Spa.

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 03:38 AM

And that's about where I'm up to now. I'm hoping to have the car off to the media blasters buy the end of July there's a few repairs I want to get sorted before that happens so the clock is ticking. I'll be back with an update in a few days.

Posted by: 914Sixer May 27 2017, 05:22 AM

Looking good! beerchug.gif

Posted by: mb911 May 27 2017, 05:59 AM

Looking good .. Yours is much more rust free then mine. Let me know if you need any conversion parts happy to help.

Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 06:38 AM

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 27 2017, 12:59 PM) *

Looking good .. Yours is much more rust free then mine. Let me know if you need any conversion parts happy to help.


I've already got your engine engine mount Ben. biggrin.gif You can just about see part of it powder coated just above. Once I get the car back from blasting it'll be time to weld in the other part. beer3.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 27 2017, 07:12 AM

Great work and documentation of the restoration/build. That is definitely the way to do it. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mb911 May 27 2017, 08:06 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ May 27 2017, 04:38 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 27 2017, 12:59 PM) *

Looking good .. Yours is much more rust free then mine. Let me know if you need any conversion parts happy to help.


I've already got your engine engine mount Ben. biggrin.gif You can just about see part of it powder coated just above. Once I get the car back from blasting it'll be time to weld in the other part. beer3.gif



Thats someone elses mount. I only make factory style mounts (single mount)

Either way looking good.

Posted by: forrestkhaag May 27 2017, 09:20 AM

Awesome work! aktion035.gif

Looks like Rich Johnson mount / I used that one as well.
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Posted by: defianty May 27 2017, 09:31 AM

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 27 2017, 03:06 PM) *

QUOTE(defianty @ May 27 2017, 04:38 AM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ May 27 2017, 12:59 PM) *

Looking good .. Yours is much more rust free then mine. Let me know if you need any conversion parts happy to help.


I've already got your engine engine mount Ben. biggrin.gif You can just about see part of it powder coated just above. Once I get the car back from blasting it'll be time to weld in the other part. beer3.gif



Thats someone elses mount. I only make factory style mounts (single mount)

Either way looking good.



Sorry Ben, of course you're right. I got this from Maddog. I must say I really wanted a pair of your heat exchangers but sadly the current exchange rate, shipping, duty and VAT makes it difficult for us in the UK at the moment. Keep up the great work, I've been reading your restoration thread too.

Posted by: mepstein May 27 2017, 10:29 AM

Fantastic work.

Posted by: 23e Heure May 27 2017, 11:00 AM

Well done starting the thread on here...

Will it being staying light ivory?

Posted by: Perry Kiehl May 27 2017, 11:22 AM

Make sure you get a good high quality engine harness wink.gif

Posted by: defianty Jun 9 2017, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(23e Heure @ May 27 2017, 06:00 PM) *

Well done starting the thread on here...

Will it being staying light ivory?


Nope sunglasses.gif

Posted by: defianty Jun 9 2017, 01:56 PM

QUOTE(Perry Kiehl @ May 27 2017, 06:22 PM) *

Make sure you get a good high quality engine harness wink.gif


Thanks Perry. I've heard there's a guy around these parts who can help wink.gif

Posted by: defianty Jun 9 2017, 01:56 PM

A job I've been wanting to make a start on for a while was the front oil cooler. Because I don't intend on building an exact GT replica there was no need for the expensive of a original Behr oil cooler - fortunately.

A while back I got a GRP copy of the GT cooler shroud, with this came a piece that went under the cooler itself. I didn't like the fit of this so wanted to do something else. Fortunately from following 23heure's build the guys who built his car came up with a better solution and I adapted mine from that.

Cooler Shroud in Place.
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Measure twice - cut once!
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Phew!
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Fabricated lower panel and oil cooler mount. These need welding together.
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Oil cooler in place.
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Posted by: defianty Jun 9 2017, 01:57 PM

I wanted to fabricate a GT style grill - this is what I came up with.

Starting with the side parts - Metal used here was for a 914 engine lid I used to make my GT lid.
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Top part...
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Trying the grill for size. I used the cut out piece to help form the shape.
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Bottom piece fabricated, cleaned and ready to weld up.
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Frame welded and finished.
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The finished piece...
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Held in place along with GT valance.
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I'm happy with that. Now to test fit with the bumper once the relevant fittings arrive.

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 9 2017, 03:00 PM

Can you share what oil cooler you decided to use? You are doing a great job!

Posted by: defianty Jun 9 2017, 03:14 PM

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Can you share what oil cooler you decided to use? You are doing a great job!


Yeah sure I went with the Setrab Slimline 420mm 10 Row.
http://www.setrab.com/products/proline/products/slm/

Posted by: Krieger Jun 9 2017, 06:18 PM

Looks really nice!

Posted by: jmitro Jun 9 2017, 07:59 PM

very nice work!

Posted by: burton73 Jun 9 2017, 08:31 PM

Super nice work. I think it is looking better than new so far.

Bob

Posted by: defianty Jun 9 2017, 11:56 PM

Thanks guys, it's been a steep learning curve as I've never really done anything like this before. It's been a lot of fun though! piratenanner.gif

Posted by: pete000 Jun 10 2017, 09:15 AM

Great build ! first.gif

Posted by: porschetub Jun 10 2017, 02:58 PM

Great work so far,handy to have those fabrication skills,looks to be a good solid car for the conversion.
I think a build on a 4cyl is a form of madness but tackling a six conversion is a whole new level of insanity lol-2.gif lol-2.gif headbang.gif .
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P.S. the first time you turn that key and the six roars into life ..that's priceless

Posted by: defianty Jun 11 2017, 01:38 AM

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P.S. the first time you turn that key and the six roars into life ..that's priceless


I dream of that day!

Posted by: 23e Heure Jun 11 2017, 02:23 AM

You are on track to having the nicest 3.0 914 in the UK... keep going!

Posted by: defianty Jun 11 2017, 03:04 AM

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You are on track to having the nicest 3.0 914 in the UK... keep going!


I still won't be able to keep up with you though! driving.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: defianty Jun 12 2017, 10:15 AM

It was my initial plan to use the original oil cooler fixing holes on the oil cooler shroud to fix on to my oil cooler with an adaptor plate. This was completely unnecessary but would look more correct. After going over what I'd done previously I found the oil cooler was sitting just a bit too high. So I set about modifying it all to enable me to lower it.

After a few hours I came up with this. I think it's a much better solution and I now have the room above for the adaptor plate.

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Posted by: defianty Jun 16 2017, 01:17 AM

Ever had the sick in your stomach feeling?

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Posted by: 914dave Jun 16 2017, 06:31 AM

Nice fab work! From the looks of your skills, that body work will be no problem to sort out.

Posted by: defianty Jun 16 2017, 10:09 AM

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Nice fab work! From the looks of your skills, that body work will be no problem to sort out.


Thanks very much. However before starting this project I'd never done anything like this and I've only been welding a few months. I love a challenge laugh.gif

Posted by: 914dave Jun 16 2017, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(914dave @ Jun 16 2017, 01:31 PM) *

Nice fab work! From the looks of your skills, that body work will be no problem to sort out.


Thanks very much. However before starting this project I'd never done anything like this and I've only been welding a few months. I love a challenge laugh.gif

Same here. Worth the effort! It's gratifying.

Posted by: FourBlades Jun 17 2017, 04:58 AM


Great build, you are doing a fantastic job! first.gif

This will be an awesome car when done.

John

Posted by: pete000 Jun 17 2017, 09:42 AM

That's a lot of plastic on that quarter !

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That's a lot of plastic on that quarter !


There sure is! I suspected some there and I'd already sourced a quarter to replace it with. Sadly I'm going to need a new door too as this one has a lot of bondo in.

Posted by: pete-stevers Jun 17 2017, 09:50 PM

Don't let a little bondo get in the way of progress!!!

Posted by: banananose914 Jun 18 2017, 12:16 AM

Great attention to detail on the parts. Looks good.

Posted by: defianty Jun 19 2017, 11:58 AM

Whilst hiding from the car and it's filler problems I turned to another little project.

I plan on having a very stock interior in my car, most of what was in the car was already in great condition and the few parts the weren't, have been replaced.

The dash and gauges were in a lovely original condition and fortunately didn't need refurbishment. However now having a six cylinder engine I wanted more information on the dashboard.

Being an early 914 the car had silver dot gauges. It's common with six conversions to swap out the large 914 fuel gauge and replace it with an oil temp and pressure gauge from a 911. Unfortunately those gauges are expensive now and I really wanted a cheaper solution.

My engine is a '83 3.0l and more by luck than anything else I managed to get hold of a reasonably priced gauge from the same era. The lucky part being my sender units on the engine were a perfect match to the gauge. The only problem with these gauges is the lack of a silver dot. But not for long.

911 oil gauge on the right and partially torn down 914 fuel gauge.
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Silver Dot from the 914 gauge not stuck on to the 911 oil gauge.
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Reassembled - A trio of silver dot gauges.
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Posted by: defianty Jun 19 2017, 11:58 AM

All very well but you may have noticed that I no longer have a fuel gauge!

Some of the GT cars had a gauge mounted on the dash in place of the radio. Here's a picture here you can see it's mounted at an angle to face the driver.
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The last time I saw one for sale it was for an eyewatering amount. Again I had to get creative.

The case of these gauges had a 60mm circumference todays VDO gauges are just 52mm and all have a rather modern look. My first task was to find a 60mm case. VDO has made gauges for many manufactures and in the mid 60's they made this for SAAB.

And look... a lovely silver dot too.
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Unfortunately the internals weren't compatible with the 914 sender unit, so for compatibility I got this.
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Now it was just a simple case of merging the two together. :shock:


The really didn't want to come apart!
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Saab gauge in pieces with the new gauge internals pictured.
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I wanted to use the original spade connectors on the back of the Saab gauge so that meant modifying the new VDO gauge to suit.
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The needle on the Saab gauge wasn't quite Porsche enough for me and it wasn't quite long enough either, so I went about creating a new needle. This was the final version and it was made from a milk jug laugh.gif Yes and milk jug!
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It turns out Revell enamel Matt 25 is a great match for a faded Porsche needle.
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To create the dial I used several images of GT gauges to create a new artwork I could print. These are just some of the early printouts.
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As always happens I forgot to take photos of the build up but here's what I ended up with.
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Together with the rest.
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Another fun project completed. The last one I saw for sale was advertised for 950 euros. This cost me less than £70.

Posted by: tygaboy Jun 19 2017, 12:02 PM

Dude! So awesome. Great job and fabulous result! pray.gif

Posted by: mepstein Jun 19 2017, 01:33 PM

Outstanding job on the gauges.

Posted by: defianty Aug 26 2017, 01:04 AM

Time for a little update after taking a bit of a break from the car.

As seen earlier I made a GT style fuel gauge, no it was time to create the pod for it to sit in.

A previous owner had installed something other than the standard size in the radio aperture, step one was to fit that. Tough welding as the metal is so thin!

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Although it'll be covered by the fuel gauge, if I want to install a radio I'll have the option.
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A piece of 61mm ID tube and sheet metal cut to size is all that's needed.

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In primer...

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No more Bahia Red!

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Many thanks to Garry at Classic FX for the basketweave.

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All safely stored away in the loft until installation time now.

Posted by: defianty Aug 26 2017, 01:05 AM

Back to the front of the car to complete the oil cooler installation.

The trouble I went to finding someone to make the louvred panel for me was ridiculous. No one would reply to my enquiries and I end up using a guy that took about a week to reply to each email. Soooooooo frustrating! Even more frustrating was after stumbling across a time-warp metal merchant locally earlier this week, that whilst lovely old boy there hobbled off to cut some sheet to size I find myself staring at a sign - 'Louvred panels made to order' laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway, here's my original front trunk floor looking rather shabby, a previous owner had mounted a kerb or similar and made a bit of a mess. This was the perfect opportunity to rectify that.

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Most of the damage repaired and offering up louvred panel.

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Lots and welding, grinding and swearing later! Ta da!

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I can now finish off the front grill I made and get everything dry fitted.

Posted by: sechszylinder Aug 26 2017, 01:58 AM

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Time for a little update after taking a bit of a break from the car.

https://postimages.org/

Many thanks to Garry at Classic FX for the basketweave.


All safely stored away in the loft until installation time now.


That is an awesome work!!!

Did you forgot the cutout for the 914/6 steering column with the left hand iginition switch in the dashboard ? confused24.gif

Keep up the excellent work!
BR Benno

Posted by: defianty Aug 26 2017, 02:21 AM

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Did you forgot the cutout for the 914/6 steering column with the left hand iginition switch in the dashboard ? confused24.gif

Keep up the excellent work!
BR Benno


I decided a while back not to convert the ignition. The price of the parts versus what it gives you in return isn't worth it to me.

Posted by: sechszylinder Aug 26 2017, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(sechszylinder @ Aug 26 2017, 08:58 AM) *


Did you forgot the cutout for the 914/6 steering column with the left hand iginition switch in the dashboard ? confused24.gif

Keep up the excellent work!
BR Benno


I decided a while back not to convert the ignition. The price of the parts versus what it gives you in return isn't worth it to me.

ah, o.k. ...

if you browse through the forum here you will find some instructions, how to convert 911 and 914/4 steering columns to a 914/6 replica steering column.
I did this my self and it's very easy and not so expensive ..

anyways, great work !

br

Benno

Posted by: Cracker Aug 26 2017, 06:44 AM

I don't know how I missed this (or do not remember) but what a GREAT job on finding solutions around the problems - especially the gauges! Very interested in following it form now on!

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Posted by: 914forme Aug 26 2017, 07:43 AM

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Now just on more thread to follow, and drooley.gif Over keep up the great work.

confused24.gif as to why people have such a large fear over doing instrument work. I can understand Quad cam carrera engines, and even a 911 engine , but gauges come on they are so simple to work on. Really like your setup.

Posted by: defianty Aug 26 2017, 10:54 AM

Thanks for the positive comments guys.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 26 2017, 11:44 AM

Following, great inspiration!!

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Aug 26 2017, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(Cracker @ Aug 26 2017, 05:44 AM) *

I don't know how I missed this (or do not remember) but what a GREAT job on finding solutions around the problems - especially the gauges! Very interested in following it form now on!

T


I missed it too and agree that was some amazing guage work. Really like the milk jug solution and I always miss some of the inprocess pics as well. Great work! You have weighed in on my GT project and I will continue to follw yours.

Posted by: defianty Aug 27 2017, 08:42 AM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Aug 26 2017, 07:02 PM) *
Great work! You have weighed in on my GT project and I will continue to follw yours.


Really enjoying the engine work you're doing. Luckily I bought my engine already rebuilt.

Posted by: defianty Aug 27 2017, 08:43 AM


I'm starting to obsess over detail laugh.gif but in my opinion that's what makes a good car.

I was planning a car free day today as we have family over shortly. But, being able to draw and having a vinyl cutter made this very easy and start to finish took less than an hour.

It'll look smart next to the new fuel gauge biggrin.gif

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 27 2017, 11:07 AM

You also added a wrinkle finish to the gauge pod?
Looks great.

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Posted by: defianty Aug 27 2017, 12:06 PM

No, that was how it was finished. To be honest I assumed that was original. Can anyone confirm.

Posted by: 914forme Aug 27 2017, 12:08 PM

Could be a later surround Porsche used ABS in latter years.

What vinyl cutter did you use? Been thinking about getting one for paint masking and etching. Also is that just model paint?


Posted by: defianty Aug 27 2017, 12:22 PM

QUOTE(914forme @ Aug 27 2017, 07:08 PM) *

Could be a later surround Porsche used ABS in latter years.

What vinyl cutter did you use? Been thinking about getting one for paint masking and etching. Also is that just model paint?


It is metal with a wrinkle finish actually. I think I'll leave it as is as I quite like it.

My partner does a few craft bits as pieces and bought a Silhouette Portrait cutter. Bottom end of the range really but it does the trick when set up correctly.

The paint was Plastikote, I had an old can if white laying around.

Posted by: Mitox Aug 27 2017, 07:50 PM

Great project, and love the quality of your work. I'll definitely keep watching your progress.

Posted by: pete000 Aug 27 2017, 08:02 PM

Love the 914 GT fuel gauge !

No 8K tach?

Posted by: porschetub Aug 27 2017, 08:20 PM

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Love the 914 GT fuel gauge !

No 8K tach?


Yea noticed that 4cyl tach.

Posted by: defianty Aug 28 2017, 01:04 AM

Hopefully I'll get an 8k teach at some point. I'm yet to find one for reasonable money that doesn't need a full refurb. When they come up for sale over here people are asking big money.

Posted by: jkb944t Aug 28 2017, 10:44 AM

Very nice work! piratenanner.gif

Jeff B

Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:05 AM

Time for a September update I think.

Lots has gone on this month and it's seen me get to a stage where there's is little left to do other than work on the shell of the car. The coming posts are of various bits and pieces that have been finished off.

Getting close to finishing off the front oil cooler install. I wanted to use the original mounting holes on the oil cooler shroud so I made this adaptor plate.
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Being a very early US 73 2.0L my car sadly didn't have sway bars that became standard. Having driven 914's with and without there was no way I wouldn't be installing one. I initially found a original one but then changed that with this Weltmeister as I wanted to extra performance that offered. Installation was fairly simple.

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Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:05 AM

I finally bought an engine stand and got my engine off the floor from the palette it had been sitting on for almost a year. Although covered it had been a bit neglected so it was time to give it a clean up and add the new tinwear and ancillaries.

For starters I had the valve covers powdercoated
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Then installing the tin wear.

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This wasn't staying red
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That's better!
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PMO's going on.
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That's it almost done - SC decals added
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I'm just waiting on my conversion wiring harness to be made by Perry Kiehl.

Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:06 AM

I've been doing the seat rails for months, seemed like a lot of work for yet another something no one ever sees, but they certainly needed some TLC.

Worse condition than I remembered.
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Stripped down, frame blasted and painted. Bright parts replated.
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Refitting those springs were a bit of a nightmare but I finally came up with a solution after bending a couple of screwdrivers laugh.gif

Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:06 AM

New custom made Hayward & Scott heat exchangers arrived. Such a shame they're going to be hidden away under the car.

Hayward & Scott are fairly local to me and were really good. I called them a few months ago to discuss what I was after. They mention they had just finished a couple of sets for a US customer and I was more than welcome to pop in to take a closer look. During my visit I placed an order.

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Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:07 AM

The last mechanical part to look over was the gearbox. I had always had issues with mine in the past and I knew it needed attention. My initial plan was to rebuild it myself but after spending a fair amount of time reading up I decided it was best to get someone else to do it. I did buy a replacement gearbox a few years ago but that also had issues although it was much better than the one I had. The plan will be to make one good from the two and replace other parts where necessary like the syncos. I would just do the easy part and do some cleaning.

Removing paint that had been put on years before.
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More time later than I care to mention!
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This really didn't want to clean up very well....
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... so I dropped in off for vapor blasting.
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I'm hoping to drop the boxes off for rebuilding soon so will update on the findings later.

Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:07 AM

So with almost everything else completed and stuffed into every nook and cranny in the house it was time to get back to bodywork.

About the only part really left unexplored was the underneath of the floor. The top was almost perfect so I was hoping the underside was in a similar condition.

Looks promising!
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The brown parts are just underseal residue. The floor is again almost perfect - 99% original paint and just a tiny bit of very light surface rust.

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Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:07 AM

Over the past few months various small projects have given me the opportunity to get my welding skills up to scratch for the main event laugh.gif adding the GT flares to the car. With almost nothing left on the car to restore now was the time.

I had the chance to follow James 23e Heure's build. When his arches were installed they saved the off cuts for me. This enabled me to cut them up and practice welding them back together. My first attempts weren't great but I was going to do this and my perseverance was finally rewarded.

It took a lot of confidence just to do this!
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Initial fitting
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It's common knowledge that the bottom of AA flares don't have the same profile as the wings on the car so a bit of fetling it required.

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Slowly...
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Finished
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Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 10:08 AM

Moving on to the rear

The rear quarter is exposed because of the previous accident damage, I'm in the process of repairing that now but am waiting on repair panels. In the meantime I can intall the GT strengthening kit.

First to prep the area.
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Weld Thru Primer
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The parts supplied in the kit needed to be bent into shape and I found the needed a bit of trimming too. I made some carboard templates from them and adjusted them to fit before applying those back to the parts and trimming them to fit.

The cardboard GT sstrengthening kit laugh.gif
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Final Test Fit
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That's it, up to date again. I'll be in the garage again tomorrow welding all that in.

Posted by: 914forme Oct 1 2017, 11:01 AM

On the 8K tach, just build one confused24.gif

Also don't spend the time on the GT kit, unless your building a period correct GT

I would go with http://www.tangerineracing.com/chassis.htm from Tangerine racing before I did the GT kit. First two items on the page will make a huge difference to the stiffness of the rear suspension pickup points.

BTW, very nice work

Posted by: Larmo63 Oct 1 2017, 11:02 AM

Awesome work!!! Well thought out and well executed.

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 1 2017, 11:52 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Oct 1 2017, 09:07 AM) *

Over the past few months various small projects have given me the opportunity to get my welding skills up to scratch for the main event laugh.gif adding the GT flares to the car. With almost nothing left on the car to restore now was the time.

I had the chance to follow James 23e Heure's build. When his arches were installed they saved the off cuts for me. This enabled me to cut them up and practice welding them back together. My first attempts weren't great but I was going to do this and my perseverance was finally rewarded.

It took a lot of confidence just to do this!
Initial fitting
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Finished
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We are following each others builds and I enjoy that. I may be a little bit ahead build wise but not by much from the way your going! I am doing mostly the nits and nats and it is time consuming as hell with slow progress. And sometimes 2 steps backward with one step forward. headbang.gif

Your egine sheet metal came out great and looks good on the engine! I love before and after shots and the distributor, seat tracks, and tans are great examples of your attention to detail. I happen to have the same front sway bar on mine (installed 2 owners ago) and look forward to driving my car with it. One of my next tasks is to do the underside so thanks for the inspiration picture I was under there looking at it last nite and seeing yours, now I have to get to it. idea.gif

But what I really want to comment on is the fender fitting sawzall-smiley.gif and welding welder.gif you are doing, seeing it being done as you've shown is great! popcorn[1].gif
Number one it looks to be coming out very good! You got skills! first.gif
Second, is that my car came to me with the fenders and paint complete (again 2 owners ago) so since your car is also white and I have zero pictures from when the fenders and paint was done to mine, I am going to through your pictures in my folder and pretend it was my car circa 1998 going through all that. smile.gif
double thanks for that!
Keep up the good work and postings! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 1 2017, 12:05 PM

Edit to revise

I loved what seemed like your 10 post blast of information update today. I'm subscribed and thought things went hay wire at first when I saw my e-mail. biggrin.gif
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Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 1 2017, 06:01 PM) *

On the 8K tach, just build one confused24.gif

Also don't spend the time on the GT kit, unless your building a period correct GT

I would go with http://www.tangerineracing.com/chassis.htm from Tangerine racing before I did the GT kit. First two items on the page will make a huge difference to the stiffness of the rear suspension pickup points.

BTW, very nice work



I've already given some thought to building a tach, I may just do it. Just needs to get my hands on another tach to act as a donor.

I understand what you're saying about the GT kit and no I'm not building a period rep. I've been in a couple of road GT's with the kit and it has been recommended. Will I personally use it to it's potential, probably not. Will someone ask.me why I didn't install it, probably. biggrin.gif

Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 01:14 PM

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We are following each others builds and I enjoy that. I may be a little bit ahead build wise but not by much from the way your going! I am doing mostly the nits and nats and it is time consuming as hell with slow progress. And sometimes 2 steps backward with one step forward. headbang.gif

Your egine sheet metal came out great and looks good on the engine! I love before and after shots and the distributor, seat tracks, and tans are great examples of your attention to detail. I happen to have the same front sway bar on mine (installed 2 owners ago) and look forward to driving my car with it. One of my next tasks is to do the underside so thanks for the inspiration picture I was under there looking at it last nite and seeing yours, now I have to get to it. idea.gif

But what I really want to comment on is the fender fitting sawzall-smiley.gif and welding welder.gif you are doing, seeing it being done as you've shown is great! popcorn[1].gif
Number one it looks to be coming out very good! You got skills! first.gif
Second, is that my car came to me with the fenders and paint complete (again 2 owners ago) so since your car is also white and I have zero pictures from when the fenders and paint was done to mine, I am going to through your pictures in my folder and pretend it was my car circa 1998 going through all that. smile.gif
double thanks for that!
Keep up the good work and postings! beerchug.gif
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It's great to see other builds going on at the same time. It's easy to feel very lonely in the garage, hour after hour, day after day. Seeing other builds always give me ideas and the inspiration to crack on with mine.

My skills are improving all of the time. Although I'm doing this for myself it's to prove to myself that I can do things when I put my mind to it. I lost my father just a few years ago and many of my skills came from him. I wish he could see my progress, he'd finally understand that I was listening to all of those things he taught me laugh.gif

Posted by: Krieger Oct 1 2017, 01:38 PM

Beautiful work on that flare!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 1 2017, 02:22 PM

There is just nothing prettier than a metal finished flare. Great work. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 1 2017, 02:29 PM

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There is just nothing prettier than a metal finished flare. Great work. smilie_pokal.gif


Amen!
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Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 1 2017, 03:28 PM

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That's it almost done - SC decals added
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Where did you get that great looking sticker on your fan clamp! Is it a remake?
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Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 03:35 PM

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Where did you get that great looking sticker on your fan clamp! Is it a remake?
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All the stickers came from http://car-bone.pl/ Yes they're remakes, very nice ones though. I think Sierra Madre do them too.

Posted by: raynekat Oct 1 2017, 03:43 PM

Car Bone is great but a lot of people here in the States either don't know about them...or are scared because they are located in Poland. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Plus they can custom reproduce anything if you furnish an example.

Posted by: mepstein Oct 1 2017, 03:50 PM

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Car Bone is great but a lot of people here in the States either don't know about them...or are scared because they are located in Poland. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Plus they can custom reproduce anything if you furnish an example.

agree.gif They are a legit company.
I get reproduction hockey puck horn buttons from a guy in Poland. Half the price of others and shipping just takes a couple extra days.

Posted by: defianty Oct 1 2017, 03:58 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Oct 1 2017, 10:43 PM) *

Car Bone is great but a lot of people here in the States either don't know about them...or are scared because they are located in Poland. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Plus they can custom reproduce anything if you furnish an example.


Indeed, several friends over here in the UK have used them and all regard them highly. I'll be having a new vin sticker from them soon along with another couple of stickers I forgot to order last time.

Posted by: 23e Heure Oct 3 2017, 12:41 AM

Great set of thread updates, Stephen.

Keep it up: 10 months to go until we convoy to Le Mans Classic... sunglasses.gif

Posted by: cal914 Oct 3 2017, 01:01 PM

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Great set of thread updates, Stephen.

Keep it up: 10 months to go until we convoy to Le Mans Classic... sunglasses.gif

Room for 1 more biggrin.gif

Posted by: defianty Oct 3 2017, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(23e Heure @ Oct 2 2017, 10:41 PM) *

Great set of thread updates, Stephen.

Keep it up: 10 months to go until we convoy to Le Mans Classic... sunglasses.gif

Room for 1 more biggrin.gif


That'd be a good convoy!

Posted by: raynekat Oct 3 2017, 01:28 PM

You Euro types have all the fun. wink.gif

Posted by: PlantMan Oct 3 2017, 01:59 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Oct 1 2017, 09:07 AM) *

So with almost everything else completed and stuffed into every nook and cranny in the house it was time to get back to bodywork.

About the only part really left unexplored was the underneath of the floor. The top was almost perfect so I was hoping the underside was in a similar condition.

Looks promising!
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The brown parts are just underseal residue. The floor is again almost perfect - 99% original paint and just a tiny bit of very light surface rust.

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Stephen,
I have a similar problem on my car....under coating everywhere. What are you using for removal.....something mechanical or chemical?

Thx,

Posted by: defianty Oct 3 2017, 02:19 PM

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Stephen,
I have a similar problem on my car....under coating everywhere. What are you using for removal.....something mechanical or chemical?

Thx,


The underseal on my car was quite think and had hardened. I used a selection of paint scrapers but I think the best was a thinner flexible putty knife type just like this.

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Posted by: PlantMan Oct 3 2017, 05:07 PM

Wow!
You are very diligent with that putty knife! Nice job!
I found that an old wood working chisel works nicely too. I like the extra weight when scraping through the material. I used this approach when removing the tar from the floor boards.

Posted by: defianty Oct 5 2017, 10:31 AM

I never finished off my GT style front grill because at the time I wasn't quite sure how to do it. I'm currently waiting on some panels from Restoration Design so I can get the back of the car back together so in the meantime...

I decided to make up another frame to sandwich the grill in place.
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The three pieces together.
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Now that was complete I could set about fitting the front valance.
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The tabs on the valance were moulded in the wrong position so I cut them off and made some brackets. These would also give me some play to get everything lined up well.
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Old bumper used to make sure everything fitted together and lined up.
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With that complete it was time to paint the grill and put it in a safe place until it was time to assemble the car.
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Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 5 2017, 06:45 PM

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I never finished off my GT style front grill because at the time I wasn't quite sure how to do it. I'm currently waiting on some panels from Restoration Design so I can get the back of the car back together so in the meantime...


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Nice Looking Grill first.gif
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Posted by: defianty Oct 11 2017, 10:38 AM

Since the last update I've been discovering more rot. I knew there was a bit but as usual it was a little worse than I imagined. Isn't it always. Most of it had been there a long while and had been disguised with filler and painted over. This time I was doing it properly.

First was the front trunk seal channel another notorious area.

This is the bottom left corner above the headlight.
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Looks a little odd finished but it matches the other side perfectly.
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Posted by: defianty Oct 11 2017, 10:38 AM

This was totally hidden under high build and paint. Almost the entire length was heavily pitted.
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Just surface rust fortunately - cleaned up and treated before being recovered.
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New channel fabricated and tacked in.
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Finished - nice new metal.
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Posted by: defianty Oct 11 2017, 10:39 AM

Next job was on the the windscreen aperture. I wasn't looking forward to this one and I was going to need to buy a Shrinker/Stretcher. As per usual spent a bit of time researching how I was going to make this part. When the Shrinker/Stretcher arrived I couldn't wait to have a go. Initially I used it to put a slight bend in the long trunk channel above and in seconds I had the perfect bend.

So now to make a replacement part for this. You can't beat jumping in at the deep end laugh.gif
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This was my first attempt and I was rather pleased with the result.
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Nice and clean underneath fortunately.
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Ready to stick in on laugh.gif
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Getting there.
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Finished :cheers:
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Really happy with how that turned out. The other corner needs some attention so that will receive the same treatment.

I'm off the see the media blasters and painter tomorrow to discuss my requirements and dates. I'm hoping to have the car painted in the beginning of the new year. Still lots to do though before that happens.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 11 2017, 09:27 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Oct 11 2017, 09:38 AM) *

Since the last update I've been discovering more rot. I knew there was a bit but as usual it was a little worse than I imagined. Isn't it always. Most of it had been there a long while and had been disguised with filler and painted over. This time I was doing it properly.

First was the front trunk seal channel another notorious area.

This is the bottom left corner above the headlight.

Looks a little odd finished but it matches the other side perfectly.


Sorry to hear about "more rot" but it sure looks like you know what you are doing. pray.gif Keep up the good work it will be worth it.
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Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 01:37 PM

Time for another update. Nothing very interesting though I'm afraid just more body repairs.

I wasn't very happy with the aperture repair, it was close but not perfect and after a few days of it bugging me I had to revisit it. The main problem was a narrowing of the aperture at the bottom of the A post. Once the screen was fitted it would probably have been fine but I knew if I could modify it to be just 2mm deeper it would be spot on. I didn't capture all of the work but below shows the patch that straightened everything out. With that done I could sleep again laugh.gif

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During the aperture repair I only removed enough paint to get the job done. Having now needing to make repairs to the scuttle panel I went ahead and removed the rest of the paint. It did take long to find a big dent in the scuttle stuffed with filler. The metal was stretched and there was no way I was going to be able to flatten it out so I decided to cut out a large piece and drop in some fresh metal.

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Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 01:38 PM

The last piece of the bonnet gutter to repair was again another time consuming job. I've spent days now just making small repair pieces laugh.gif

Trying to cut out the rot - Lots of seam sealer on the underside.
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All the offending metal cut out and a coat of weld-thru primer applied.
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One of the two repair pieces in place before welding.
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Piece one finished and more primer applied
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Last piece in and almost complete.
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Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 01:45 PM

With the oil cooler shroud taking place of the spare wheel well I sourced a collapsible spare tyre and set about mounting it upright.

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After a few cardboard prototypes I made this bracket to attach the spare.
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Welded in place it uses the original spare wheel hold down to attach the wheel and leave about half an inch gap under the tyre.
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Spare in place.
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If I was going for more of a race style GT replica I'd have called this complete, but I had in my mind to utilise the original floor board to make two storage compartments. As well as the oil cooler the fuel pump is also going there so I like the idea of a cleaner storage area above. I'd seen this done before on a GT replica at the Nurburgring, just my approach would be a bit different.

Again after a few ideas I settled with a support bar for the top of the oil cooler shroud and a couple of brackets.
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Brackets welded in. The hole in the top are filled with grommets, giving the board something to rest on.
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Oil Shroud support bar painted and in place. The two open grommets allow for pegs on the base of the board to slot in place and stop it from moving about.
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Floor board in place. Eventually this will be recovered in Perlon as per the original.
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With the oil cooler shroud in place the wiring loom will now run across the top of the shroud. The tyre board is short enough not to interfere with it but I wanted a solution to tie the loom in place. Copying the style of all of the wiring loom metal tabs welded on the body I made these to both hold the top of the shroud in place and bend around around loom.

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Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 01:45 PM

With that done it was time to install another flare, this time however I took a slightly different approach.

Here's the flare attached to the car with screws, I'd previously trimmed off most of the original arch on the wing. This time instead of drawing around it and trimming the original wing I was going to cut this wing with the flare in place leaving tabs where the screws were.

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You can just about see where I've left a piece of metal near the screw.
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All cut show a few of the tabs.
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I could now place a few spot welds here and there and cut the tabs off when I got to that part.
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The resulting fit was much better than the other side and I'll be using this approach on the rears.
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With that flare attached and finished the front of the car was done. With that I put the front bumper and valance back on to test fit again and I also cut the front bumper for more airflow.

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Now I need to find someone to re chrome the front bumper and potentially weld up the holes in it too.

I've now started on the rear again now and will post another update in a few days when that starts to take shape.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Nov 16 2017, 01:52 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Nov 16 2017, 11:38 AM) *

The last piece of the bonnet gutter to repair was again another time consuming job. I've spent days now just making small repair pieces laugh.gif

Last piece in and almost complete.
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Well I'm certainly impressed! pray.gif Looks great! first.gif
I did some of this stuff on my 356 many rears ago so I have an appreciation for this work and the time it takes.
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Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Nov 16 2017, 07:52 PM) *

Well I'm certainly impressed! pray.gif Looks great! first.gif
I did some of this stuff on my 356 many rears ago so I have an appreciation for this work and the time it takes.
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Thanks Jim.

Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 01:57 PM

I just want to mention again that I cross post this thread on another forum in the UK (DDK). Most of the members there are 911 owners and for them I tend to state the obvious that almost everyone here knows.

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 16 2017, 02:20 PM

I really like the cooler/spare/frunk-board! Nicely executed

Posted by: mepstein Nov 16 2017, 02:26 PM

I really like what you did in the trunk. Great build.

Posted by: burton73 Nov 16 2017, 02:34 PM

Very nice job. It will be a nice one fixed right.

Thanks for taking the time to document your GT build.

Bob B

Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 03:20 PM

Thanks all, I appreciate the comments. This really is turning into a labour of love now but I'm still enjoying every moment. Racing against time now as I'm hoping to get to paint very early in the new year.

The list is getting shorter finally and I seem to actually be crossing more off of it than adding!

Posted by: RoadGlue Nov 16 2017, 03:32 PM

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Following.

Great work!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 16 2017, 04:14 PM

Very well executed. I like the way you handled the cooler, spare and board too. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Boomingbeetle Nov 16 2017, 04:24 PM

Does anyone else feel like a massive underachiever here after reading this thread??? I spend about a year just doing a motor swap from a 1.7 to big 4. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: mb911 Nov 16 2017, 04:36 PM

Looks great.

Posted by: porschetub Nov 16 2017, 04:51 PM

QUOTE(Boomingbeetle @ Nov 17 2017, 11:24 AM) *

Does anyone else feel like a massive underachiever here after reading this thread??? I spend about a year just doing a motor swap from a 1.7 to big 4. smilie_pokal.gif


I know but as long as it still happens...that's the main thing,to me part of the ownership is working on these little cars,besides I bought a car ready to convert,my days of fixing rusty cars is basically over.
The OP has amazing skill and I really take my hat off to people with the bodywork skill he has smilie_pokal.gif ....well done.
Following this one with interest beerchug.gif .

Posted by: 914 7T3 Nov 16 2017, 05:07 PM

Your attention to detail is exemplary!

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Posted by: defianty Nov 16 2017, 05:21 PM

QUOTE(Boomingbeetle @ Nov 16 2017, 10:24 PM) *

Does anyone else feel like a massive underachiever here after reading this thread??? I spend about a year just doing a motor swap from a 1.7 to big 4. smilie_pokal.gif


I do hope my thread serves as an inspiration to others to have a go. Prior to starting work on the car my welding experience was limited to a one day course and almost every other skill I've picked up along the way.

I've always learnt from diving head on into projects. Yeah I've made mistakes and have certainly wasted money along the way, but I've learnt from them and progressed.

There's many free learning resources out there on the internet, I personally have found YouTube to be invaluable to my learning.




Posted by: mepstein Nov 16 2017, 06:08 PM

From the look of your work, I figured you had a welding and fabrication background.

Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 16 2017, 06:50 PM

Stephen's build is inspiring to me. I have some skills, but not those kinds of skills. I can't wait to see the finished product. It's like reading a good book, and you want to go read the last few pages to see how the story turns out.


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Posted by: bigkensteele Nov 16 2017, 08:08 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Nov 16 2017, 11:38 AM) *

The last piece of the bonnet gutter to repair was again another time consuming job. I've spent days now just making small repair pieces laugh.gif

Trying to cut out the rot - Lots of seam sealer on the underside.
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All the offending metal cut out and a coat of weld-thru primer applied.
One of the two repair pieces in place before welding.
Piece one finished and more primer applied
Last piece in and almost complete.
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My car needs the exact same repair on both sides. Hope that I can find someone locally with half your talent to tackle it for me! welder.gif first.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Nov 16 2017, 10:01 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Nov 16 2017, 11:45 AM) *

With the oil cooler shroud taking place of the spare wheel well I sourced a collapsible spare tyre and set about mounting it upright.

Floor board in place. Eventually this will be recovered in Perlon as per the original.
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I have long wanted too do something similar in my trunk where I already have a vertically mounted tire. Thanks for the ideas and inspiration. beerchug.gif Started working on it today. sawzall-smiley.gif
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Posted by: defianty Nov 17 2017, 02:02 AM

Go for it Jim. I'm pleased it's inspired you. Looking forward to what you come up with.

Posted by: gereed75 Nov 17 2017, 06:05 PM

I just started into welding/fabing. I find that working with 22 gauge steel and MIG is an interesting and versatile medium. It is time consuming!! Patience and meticulous prep!! It is definitely a go slow to go fast sort of an endeavor.

If you have that kind of mind set it is not hard, quite satisfying and actually somewhat forgiving. Thank god for grinders!!

Using a Hobart 140, gas, and the usual assortment of small body hammers, dollies, pliers, vices etc.

It helps to be learning on a POS Datsun 510 race car. Mistakes are just part of the patina!

Posted by: defianty Dec 2 2017, 10:58 AM

Update time...

The floor wasn't in the best condition and as usual the further I dug the worse it got. The passenger rear corner was the worse and due to the accident was slightly crumpled. Initially I planned to cut this part out and repair but heaving pitting due to water ingress pushed me to replace half of the floor. So a new panel was ordered from Restoration Design.

Here's part of the floor showing some of the pitting.
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This is the support piece that goes over the cross member that supports the gearbox I needed to remove this so set about drilling the sixty plus spot welds. I think you can guess what I found underneath it.
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Yep, more rust!
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Cutting out the floor piece by piece.
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Restoration Design have produced some of their replacement panels from a thicker gauge steel. I think I get the reasoning behind this but it's obvious some definition in the part is missing and butt welding the pieces together isn't easy when you only want part of the panel.

Here's the replacement trunk floor panel. I've seen many 914's restored with trunk floors that look like this but I wanted to put the manufacturing access holes back in.
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Here they are hiding under rather a lot of seam sealer.
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Well preserved though! laugh.gif
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After cutting out the cutout too I could then use that as a template
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New hole
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Both finished ready to be hidden under another load of seam sealer laugh.gif
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Posted by: defianty Dec 2 2017, 10:58 AM

Here's the new floor in place. As you can see I didn't use all of the new panel - I don't see the point in cutting out original metal that is solid. However due to the thickness of the new panel I had to cut off the middle section as the bends didn't match up to the ones on the car.

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Problem! During the process of cutting out the center rusty section I found more rust in the top half! I don't know how I missed it but yet again there it was disguised by thick paint.
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After calming down I came up with a plan after seeing the old bottom half of the trunk floor I'd already cut out. What if that fitted??
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The rescued panel trimmed and cleaned up
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Offering it up!
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A perfect fit!
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Welded in place. You can also see I put the hole and captive nut back for the additional spare tyre hold down on the cross member.
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Posted by: defianty Dec 2 2017, 10:59 AM

New support plate fabricated, slightly longer than standard.
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Rosette welds for the rear towing eye and bumper support.
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Completed including support plates for the rear sway bar mounting brackets underneath.
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Whilst putting all of this together I got the back of the car reassembled too. I'll cover that at a later date as like many things I can't finish that until I complete another task.

So next time it's on to THE HELL HOLE!! As you can guess it's worse that I imagined laugh.gif

Posted by: raynekat Dec 2 2017, 12:24 PM

Wow....you made that look easy as pie.
What did it take you? An afternoon's work? wink.gif
Nice reimagineering on the rescued panel.
Most people don't have any idea how much time a repair like this costs....
But it's mostly labor, so if you can DIY, you save bundles.

Posted by: defianty Dec 2 2017, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Dec 2 2017, 06:24 PM) *

Wow....you made that look easy as pie.
What did it take you? An afternoon's work? wink.gif
Nice reimagineering on the rescued panel.
Most people don't have any idea how much time a repair like this costs....
But it's mostly labor, so if you can DIY, you save bundles.


An afternoon! I could have done it twice in that time laugh.gif

Lots of labour, in reality it was probably about four solid days including my mistakes that I don't show on here laugh.gif A lot of time was spent lining up the rear panel and rear quarter that I haven't included in this thread yet.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Dec 2 2017, 05:37 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Dec 2 2017, 08:59 AM) *

New support plate fabricated, slightly longer than standard.

Rosette welds for the rear towing eye and bumper support.

Completed including support plates for the rear sway bar mounting brackets underneath.


Whilst putting all of this together I got the back of the car reassembled too. I'll cover that at a later date as like many things I can't finish that until I complete another task.

So next time it's on to THE HELL HOLE!! As you can guess it's worse that I imagined laugh.gif


Wow! just wow!
I Liked "An afternoon! I could have done it twice that time" biggrin.gif
Slow tedious stuff.
Keep the updates coming, progress is a good thing and nice to see!
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Posted by: defianty Dec 3 2017, 04:13 AM

Thanks Jim - I was please with how all that turned out. She's starting to look like a car again. And more excitingly the flared car I've always dreamed of! smile.gif

Posted by: 914dave Dec 3 2017, 03:43 PM

I’m impressed with your attention to detail. It’s worth it in the end. Great job!

Posted by: defianty Dec 4 2017, 03:24 AM

QUOTE(914dave @ Dec 3 2017, 09:43 PM) *

I’m impressed with your attention to detail. It’s worth it in the end. Great job!


Thanks very much. I've just had a look though your photo album. Wow - now that's impressive work.

Posted by: falcor75 Dec 4 2017, 03:36 AM

Very well done, the first cut is the scariest....

Posted by: defianty Jan 9 2018, 06:43 AM

Originally I was going to keep my 914 7K Tachometer and use a Tach Adaptor to convert the signal to display correctly. However something caught my eye on Instagram a few months ago and I decided I go for something a bit different.

I contacted the guy on Instagram, username https://www.instagram.com/classicautoclock/?hl=en. Waldek lives in Poland but used to work at North Hollywood Speedometer, so he knows his stuff. Turnaround was just a few weeks and I'm very happy with the results. Also the price was very good.

If you need your gauges rebuilt or modified, Waldek is worth having a chat with.

Here's my original Tacho
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Here it is now.
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Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 9 2018, 08:40 AM

Very cool tach!!!

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jan 9 2018, 10:21 AM

I like that tach! Cool idea.
Keep up the good work! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: gothspeed Jan 9 2018, 11:55 AM

Fantastic smilie_pokal.gif !!! I did my body work in a similar fashion, sections at a time without an entire bare metal strip. But mine without the chassis reinforcement or -6 upgrades (yet wink.gif ). Your car looks amazing that is what I want mine to become someday beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 10:28 AM

Into to the Hole!

The hell hole of course. I think at this stage, more than anything, this was a test of patience and planning along with the skills I'd already learnt.

So what do I have to work with !
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It didn't get any better when you got closer either laugh.gif
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Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 10:28 AM

Pretty eh! Now we all know this could have been a lot worse as despite the heavy pitting in the metal there was only one very small hole in the ramp area and I think I made that whilst cleaning. At this stage I did ask for a bit of advice on how to proceed and armed with that information I set off.

First job was to tackle the area behind the original 4-cylinder engine mount that I'd removed months earlier. I gave up counting after drilling out the millionth spot weld but we got there in the end.

It looks all innocent and easy to cut out doesn't it! Such a f*&^%r!
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Here you can see the strenghting, and in good condition too.
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Skipping to the end - All buttoned up.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 10:28 AM

Next I wanted to tackle the firewall. I think most of the damage here was from soaking wet soundproofing, but it was probably a sprinkle of battery acid that broke the camel's back.

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I decided I'd have a go at fabricating this part and after a bit of headscratching I came up with the idea of making it in three pieces.

Here's the fabricated repair being welding together.
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And here it is in place ready to be tacked in.
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And finished. I was quite happy with that.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 10:29 AM

Back in the engine bay it was on to the ramp area under the battery tray.

With my shrinker it was fairly easy to fabricate this part. Although fitting it wasn't!
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I made a mistake here as I didn't realise this area was double skinned. Luckily I didn't cut too much away and it was easy to fit. Should have done more homework. *Slaps own wrist.

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Rotten part of the ramp removed.
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With the ramp area out of the way it was time to turn to the inner wheel well. Originally I didn't know how I was going to repair this area as I don't have the fabrication skills necessary. Fortunately Restoration Design made a replacement panel. However it was out of stock and needed to be retooled. Luckily after a call out a 914World member had one in his stash and a deal was struck. Another hefty shipping bill from the US laugh.gif

Here's the new panel on arrival.
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Here's what I decided to use of it.
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Almost in...
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Done.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 10:29 AM

Now I could get back to the ramp and fit that.
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Last little piece of firewall going in.
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The last main piece to fit was the engine shelf, supplied by Restoration Design.

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Just need to fit the battery tray which is currently being blasted to clean it up a bit, then I'll call this part done. Quite a few days work there in quite a tight space, I'm glad it's done.

Next step is to fit a new trunk hinge bracket so I can put the trunk lid back on. This will assist with lining up everything as the rear end accident damage gets finished.

More soon.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jan 11 2018, 10:50 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 11 2018, 08:29 AM) *

Now I could get back to the ramp and fit that.

Last little piece of firewall going in.

The last main piece to fit was the engine shelf, supplied by Restoration Design.

Just need to fit the battery tray which is currently being blasted to clean it up a bit, then I'll call this part done. Quite a few days work there in quite a tight space, I'm glad it's done.

Next step is to fit a new trunk hinge bracket so I can put the trunk lid back on. This will assist with lining up everything as the rear end accident damage gets finished.

More soon.


And here I thought you had just been sitting on your thumbs waiting for the Tach to arrive. av-943.gif

Great work and detail! Pictures are fantastic! You have developed some skills. welder.gif smilie_pokal.gif Looking forward to the next chapter. Thanks for sharing your progress!
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Posted by: jd74914 Jan 11 2018, 10:57 AM

Very nice! That hell hole reconstruction looks awesome!!

Posted by: tygaboy Jan 11 2018, 11:14 AM

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Very nice! That hell hole reconstruction looks awesome!!


agree.gif REALLY nice work. Skill, serious commitment and LOTS of time for this level of quality. Good stuff! aktion035.gif

Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 11:27 AM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Jan 11 2018, 04:50 PM) *


And here I thought you had just been sitting on your thumbs waiting for the Tach to arrive. av-943.gif




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Not only did I do all that Jim, I celebrated Christmas and New Year, I also did this!

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Yeah I got married just before Christmas. I'm the hairy one on the right, in case you wondered av-943.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jan 11 2018, 12:32 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 11 2018, 09:27 AM) *

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Jan 11 2018, 04:50 PM) *


And here I thought you had just been sitting on your thumbs waiting for the Tach to arrive. av-943.gif




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Not only did I do all that Jim, I celebrated Christmas and New Year, I also did this!

Yeah I got married just before Christmas. I'm the hairy one on the right, in case you wondered av-943.gif


Awesome! Congrats! But does she weld? lol-2.gif
And that's a way better pic than your welding pics. Lucky guy and beautiful girl! You have been busy biggrin.gif
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Posted by: Mueller Jan 11 2018, 12:36 PM

Congrats!

Great work on the car, I too will be tackling the hell hole area, mine won't be half as nice as yours so I doubt any pictures will be taken of my shoddy workmanship, hahaha

Posted by: defianty Jan 11 2018, 01:26 PM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Jan 11 2018, 06:32 PM) *

Awesome! Congrats! But does she weld? lol-2.gif


Nope laugh.gif Makes a good sandwich and great coffee though, which is all I need to keep going! biggrin.gif

Posted by: LowBridge Jan 11 2018, 01:53 PM

fantastic project and congrats on the wedding beerchug.gif

Posted by: mb911 Jan 11 2018, 06:13 PM

Looks good.. Nice progress.. I did my hell hole the same way.. The shrinker/stretcher was the key for mine..

Posted by: BENBRO02 Jan 11 2018, 10:26 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Oct 1 2017, 04:43 PM) *

Car Bone is great but a lot of people here in the States either don't know about them...or are scared because they are located in Poland. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. Plus they can custom reproduce anything if you furnish an example.

I got a door jamb vin sticker from them and they did a great job.

Posted by: defianty Jan 14 2018, 09:11 AM

I came across the photo whilst putting together the next instalment below and I thought I'd post it as a reminder of what the hell hole really looked like on first inspection. It truly looks awful but all those layers of paint had at least given the area some extra protection from the elements and acid. You can also see the reason I replaced the engine shelf - the huge hole is quite visible here.

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Posted by: defianty Jan 14 2018, 09:11 AM

Finishing the hell hole meant I could then weld in a new trunk hinge support as I removed mine due to an exceptionally poor repair years ago. With that complete I could then refit the trunk lid I needed this on to enable me to line up the accident damaged rear quarter.

Most of this work I'd done months previous so it was great to finally see the end of this part of the project.

So here's the story...

Here's what I started with after chipping and sanding away at the bondo. As I mentioned before I knew there was damage there but it had been sculpted so well I didn't envisage it being as bad. It didn't take long to realise nothing in that area was going to be salvagable so I set about finding replacement panels. NOS and reproduction rear quarters aren't available so an offcut from another car was going to be my only option.

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I always had a small rust bubble in this area so this was no surprise.
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Investigating
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Absorbant foam, what a great idea!
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Over the years the seam sealer holding this in had split - no doubt encouraged by the accident. This had then let the water in. As a precation I'll be cutting out the other side and removing the foam. You can see in the background of this shot the replacement rear wing I found.
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After removing all the foam this part of the inner wing would need to be repaired.
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Repair underway.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 14 2018, 09:12 AM

Here's the replacement rear wing being cleaned up before installation. As is always the case with replacement panels, you never know if the replacement is actually any good. I actually wanted to use more of the wing but sadly the rest wasn't usable. I'll cover that at a later date when I get on to the B post repair.

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Fingers crossed there's no rot in this one.
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Completely rust free, almost ready to use.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 14 2018, 09:12 AM

The damage wasn't just on the corner but also along the rear panel, again cleverly disguised with filler. This would need to be replaced too. Sourcing a rear panel took quite some time, when I first looked original panels were still available but priced at around £1K and I didn't fancy paying out that much. As my search continued the last NOS one I knew about was sold. Since this Restoration Design now reproduce this rear panel.

I'd need to replace everything marked here.
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So I cut it out!
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I found a couple of used rear panels in Germany but they were asking too much for my liking. Eventually Garold Shaffer helped me out and shipped this to me from the US for a decent price.

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It was going to need a fair bit of work but it was a good solid start. My mistake here, I think, was not using the entire panel and cutting it in half. Lining everything up was extremely difficult when I came to fit it and maybe it would have been easier if I'd left the panel in one piece. Another learning expreience.

Cleaning up the rear panel.
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I'd need to weld up the badge hole as I've something different to go there I've been working on.
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Holes welded up.
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Lots to more to do but at this stage I realised it would be best to get the panel blasted.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 14 2018, 09:12 AM

After having the panel blasted I offered it up for its first fit along with the replacent corner panel. Lots of measuring ahead before it would finally be welded in.

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Talking of measuring this is a prime example of what happens when you only measure one! This is me welding on an extra piece as I'd cut it 4mm too short. You can just about see the gap in the picture above.

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So it was at that stage I knew I'd need the trunk lid fitted to continue so I set about finishing the trunk floor and got to work on the hell hole.

Posted by: defianty Jan 14 2018, 09:12 AM

With everything now in place I could continue.

Rear panel being tacked and screwed into place.
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Corner gusset fitted and corner section

Rear wing fitted.
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Nice and straight finally.
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Getting the above straight and the corner section to line up took an incredible amount of time, measuring, measuring, measuring and head scratching over several days. The problem all stemmed from the replacement rear wing being a slightly different shape from the other side. It was only a few millimetres different but more than enough to throw everything out of line. Originally when I had everything in, what I thought was, the correct place - the corner light cluster fitted poorly and wouldn't make a seal. I even wondered if my cluster was bent and sourced a replacement to try. When that didn't fit I really was lost for a while.

Anyway, with that and other issues beaten I was on to the finishing stretch.

Bonnet on, panel gaps perfect, lights in and bumper on.

One straight rear end with no bondo!
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That brings me all up to date again. There's a few welds to clean up on the rear end so that's the next small task. After that I'll be venturing under the sail panels to see what rusty delights are awaiting me.

Posted by: ndfrigi Jan 14 2018, 09:42 AM

Wow Stephen! that is a very fast restoration and a beautiful build!

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jan 14 2018, 10:23 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 14 2018, 07:12 AM) *

Nice and straight finally.

Getting the above straight and the corner section to line up took an incredible amount of time, measuring, measuring, measuring and head scratching over several days. The problem all stemmed from the replacement rear wing being a slightly different shape from the other side. It was only a few millimetres different but more than enough to throw everything out of line. Originally when I had everything in, what I thought was, the correct place - the corner light cluster fitted poorly and wouldn't make a seal. I even wondered if my cluster was bent and sourced a replacement to try. When that didn't fit I really was lost for a while.

Anyway, with that and other issues beaten I was on to the finishing stretch.

Bonnet on, panel gaps perfect, lights in and bumper on.

One straight rear end with no bondo!
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That brings me all up to date again. There's a few welds to clean up on the rear end so that's the next small task. After that I'll be venturing under the sail panels to see what rusty delights are awaiting me.



Impressive! Dang! Seeing this level of work and result I had to go back to see if I had actually read something correctly earlier in your thread and I found it from your June 16th 2017 post where someone had said:

Nice fab work! From the looks of your skills, that body work will be no problem to sort out.

Your response was:
Thanks very much. However before starting this project I'd never done anything like this and I've only been welding a few months. I love a challenge.

Have to say that I have done a bit of welding in my day but never to this level. Great work Stephen smilie_pokal.gif Thanks for the great documentation and your experience.
Oh and I used to work with a guy who used the word bonnet and I hadn't heard it many years so thanks for that too!
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Posted by: defianty Jan 15 2018, 01:43 AM

Thanks again Jim. I'm getting excited, it's really progressing now and getting closer to being painted.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 15 2018, 09:39 AM

Stephen - That rear end looks really nice smilie_pokal.gif That is the way to correct a damaged rear for sure. beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 04:24 AM

In this weeks episode of the Rust Explorer we take a look at the sail panels. laugh.gif

There's no easy way of doing this without removing a lot of metal. This part of the rear quarter had been beaten to hell in a previous life and was covered in filler. It didn't take long to decide to cut that off and bin it.

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Originally I'd hoped I'd be able to repair the rust that was bubbling through above the door handle but on closer inspection the copious amount seam sealer that was stuffed there had failed. This resulted in a fair bit of corrosion and metal thinned beyond repair.

This is where I had a couple of bubbles peeping through.
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It didn't get any better.
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So... off with the sail panel. I've not mentioned my hatred for drilling spot welds have I. I've tried multiple tools and have just decided it's a bugger of a job. Every tool seems to blunt so quickly.

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I've discovered opening up panels on a 914 is not like opening up presents on Christmas morning. Much too much disappointment in my opinion. Unless it was a present from an elderly distant great Aunt laugh.gif

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That stuff hanging down is sponge - the water absorbing, rust inducing kind laugh.gif

Here's the underside of the removed sail panel, I think you can see just how thin the metal is here. Not savable.
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Fortunately after removing all the seam sealer and underseal the damage was only on the surface, again I got there in the knick of time.

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Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 04:25 AM

Before the car gets painted the remaining painted areas are going to be media blasted. This area under the sail panel will be almost inaccessible so I'll be treating it now before putting it all back together.

A good coating if epoxy primer later and things are starting to look a lot tidier. The areas where the seams will be welded are coated in weld thru primer.

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Roger Bray did me a good deal on a pair of sail panels, now was the time to try them out. Getting everything lined up wasn't easy, well for me it wasn't. laugh.gif

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I refitting the door latch mechanism so I could get everything lined up, at this stage I wanted to make sure I was heading in the right direction so the door gaps were perfect.

Looking good, and measuring within 0.5mm all down the door.
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Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 04:25 AM

You can't just do one side can you...

So the otherside received the same treatment. Tougher this side though as I need to replace the door jam too as that suffered in the accident.

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The sail panel obviously came from a different supplier originally and abielt a slightly thinner gauge steel it did fit slightly better.

Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 04:25 AM

Whilst I was in the area I need to attend to this jacking point too. Luckily the inner skin was unaffected so it was a simple case of cutting off and replacing. Nice simple job.

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Ready to weld.
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Done.
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Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 04:25 AM

I finally found a decent early passenger door. These are starting to get rare now in good condition and not easy to find in the UK. I was very close to buying one and shipping it from the US. Thanks to Retro Restorer in Oxfordshire for this.

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And this is where we are now, all ready for lots of welding but close to finishing the body.
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Hopefully the next installment will see the body back in one piece laugh.gif Well almost.

And if I ever decide what colour to paint the thing it'll go off to paint.


Posted by: maf914 Feb 3 2018, 07:16 AM

Good photos and nice work.

Where does the vent tube from the door jam vent terminate? Does it actually move air? I have always wondered what the purpose was of the black plastic vent in the door jam. idea.gif




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Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 07:18 AM

QUOTE(maf914 @ Feb 3 2018, 01:16 PM) *

Good photos and nice work.

Where does the vent tube from the door jam vent terminate? Does it actually move air? I have always wondered what the purpose was of the black plastic vent in the door jam. idea.gif


I don't have a photo but I it goes behind the back pad. I guess it's just to equalise cabin pressure but could be wrong. Interestingly European 914's didn't have the black plastic grill.

Posted by: mepstein Feb 3 2018, 08:44 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 3 2018, 08:18 AM) *

QUOTE(maf914 @ Feb 3 2018, 01:16 PM) *

Good photos and nice work.

Where does the vent tube from the door jam vent terminate? Does it actually move air? I have always wondered what the purpose was of the black plastic vent in the door jam. idea.gif


I don't have a photo but I it goes behind the back pad. I guess it's just to equalise cabin pressure but could be wrong. Interestingly European 914's didn't have the black plastic grill.

You are right. Let’s some air out of the cabin. Helps the heat system as well. I don’t know about the euro cars but early didn’t have the round plastic vent grill. Mid and late cars do.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Feb 3 2018, 10:42 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 3 2018, 02:25 AM) *


And this is where we are now, all ready for lots of welding but close to finishing the body.
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Hopefully the next installment will see the body back in one piece laugh.gif Well almost.

And if I ever decide what colour to paint the thing it'll go off to paint.


I am always more impressed with each post I see. I mean this as the highest complement, better you than me, smilie_pokal.gif because your results are way better than I know I could achieve. Great progress!
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Posted by: 2mAn Feb 3 2018, 11:55 AM

Just went through the entire thread. Its really inspiring to see a decent looking car and knowing theres issues and just going for it. I have a 68 Datsun Roadster that I know will need this at some point, so for now Im just an observer as Im not ready to tackle this type of resto. Good on you for diving in

Cheers!

Posted by: defianty Feb 3 2018, 12:16 PM

QUOTE(2mAn @ Feb 3 2018, 05:55 PM) *

Just went through the entire thread. Its really inspiring to see a decent looking car and knowing theres issues and just going for it. I have a 68 Datsun Roadster that I know will need this at some point, so for now Im just an observer as Im not ready to tackle this type of resto. Good on you for diving in

Cheers!



Thanks for reading Simon. I sure wasn't ready for this type of resto at the beginning laugh.gif it just happened. av-943.gif

Posted by: bbrock Feb 3 2018, 03:13 PM

Looking good! Seems to be an exciting stage of the resto. I'm looking forward to being ready to put the sails and quarters back on mine. Can't wait to see your progress. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: defianty Feb 20 2018, 12:06 PM

Ok, let's get on to the next instalment!

Before I start buttoning everything back together I need to add the drivers side GT strengthening as I never got around to doing this side previously.

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With that in place I could start putting it all back together.

I didn't want to cut this off originally but installing the new jacking point but removing it made the installation of the jacking point much easier.

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I'm not sure why I chose to cut this piece like I did. Drilling the spot welds would have been the better option.

All back in place now though.
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I could now get on to welding in the sail panels.
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Getting some seam sealer in place as this area will be difficult to access once it's all back together.
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Drivers side sail panel in place. I thought it turned out well.
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That was going to be it for that side now as I wanted to fit the sail on at the same time. This way I could measure them both as they were being fitted so I knew they were in the perfect location.

Posted by: defianty Feb 20 2018, 12:06 PM

The passenger side was a lot trickier due to having to fit a new door jamb panel too. Getting this to fit perfectly took an age and I spent far more time measuring and checking things that it actually took to install.

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The reproduction panel doesn't come with the bolt receiver holder so that had to be fabricated. Here you can see the state of the original panel that suffered badly in the accident. Drilled full of holes and stuffed with filler.

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The passenger side the lower rear quarter I had to fabricate as the replacement panel I sourced was too rusty to use. Buying new isn't an option.

I've got to be honest here I never for a second thought this was going to work and it always worried me just how I was going to repair this rear quarter and actually be happy with it.

Anyway, don't laugh this is what I did.

After cutting out a piece of steel the right size screwed it onto the rusty replacement panel and used it as a template. I then carefully hammered over the edge to give me the return I needed. By using a shrinker on the return I was able to add the curve in the panel to match the side of the door. I did all this months ago and it was only last week, after never finding a better solution, that I pulled this panel out and decided to go with it.

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Now having a replacement door with the correct shape finally I could hold up my fabricated panel and see if it was going to work.

Well, would you look at that! Not bad.
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All cut down and ready to weld in.

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I seem to have forgotten to photograph the passenger sail panel install, I could have probably used the shots of the other side and flipped them. I doubt anyone would have noticed laugh.gif

Slow and steady.
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Done! Just a slight adjustment of the door gap needed but at this stage it was less than 0.5mm out.
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Posted by: defianty Feb 20 2018, 12:07 PM

Before I finished of the rear quarter I need to address these holes in my new door. It looks like a previous owner had installed an aftermarket mirror or two. As many of you know the mounting point for oem mirror is already in the door all that's need is to drill the holes in the correct place.

Looking up from inside the door. You can make out the threaded holes ready for the mirror fittings.
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Driving up a center punch from inside the door gives you the spots where to drill. I drilled in with a 2mm bit and when filed out the holes to the correct size.

With the new holes drilled it was time to fill the others.
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Job completed.
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Posted by: defianty Feb 20 2018, 12:07 PM

With the sail panel, lower rear quarter and the other end complete I could finally piece together this patchwork rear quarter and wrap up the passenger side! To say I was excited to finally get this done was an understatement!

Patchwork!
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Flare going on.
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Again is surprising just how long this takes to do. The butt weld join on the rear arches is over five foot long!

The other end.
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This part at the end of the arch needed some attention, this is how I received it and I couldn't leave it like that.

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Better.
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Drum roll!

Passenger side complete!

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Posted by: bbrock Feb 20 2018, 12:27 PM

clap56.gif clap56.gif pray.gif pray.gif pray.gif smiley_notworthy.gif smiley_notworthy.gif smiley_notworthy.gif

I'm blown away. That quarter panel fab is amazing. I didn't have the balls to attempt it. And the welding... amazing stuff here. I don't think I can compete.

Posted by: tygaboy Feb 20 2018, 12:41 PM

So much talent being applied! You can be proud of your craftsmanship. Really impressive. pray.gif smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Feb 20 2018, 01:23 PM

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Again is surprising just how long this takes to do. The butt weld join on the rear arches is over five foot long!


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Truly fantastic work you are doing there! beerchug.gif
Lots of progress for sure!
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Posted by: defianty Feb 21 2018, 03:44 AM

Thanks again all. Really happy with how it's all coming together now. Having learnt what I've learnt on this project I know think I want to progress the skill somehow. I simply enjoy doing it so much I'm seriously going to miss it once the car is complete.

Posted by: Dion Feb 21 2018, 09:14 AM

Stellar!

Posted by: pete000 Feb 21 2018, 10:39 AM

Beautiful metal work !

Who's rocker panels are those?

Posted by: defianty Feb 21 2018, 11:32 AM

QUOTE(pete000 @ Feb 21 2018, 04:39 PM) *

Beautiful metal work !

Who's rocker panels are those?


Thanks very much.

All my fibreglass parts came from https://www.f-s-h.com/ in Germany.

Posted by: defianty Mar 15 2018, 04:04 AM

A few things have got in the way over the last few weeks and little progress has actually been made on the body. Other little projects have ticked along in the background and I'll post an update again fairly soon covering those.

However, the big news is that I now have a deadline to finish off the body! At the beginning of May the car is going to be collected by the paint shop :shock: So I have just weeks left to finish the body, hopefully plenty of time. Wish me luck! laugh.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 15 2018, 05:34 AM

Keep up the great work. Looks good and I look forward to seeing color on it. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Edward Blume Mar 15 2018, 06:38 AM

Excellent work! Any plans to move to CA?

Posted by: defianty Mar 15 2018, 07:07 AM

QUOTE(Edward Blume @ Mar 15 2018, 12:38 PM) *

Excellent work! Any plans to move to CA?


If only I was twenty years younger laugh.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Mar 15 2018, 11:09 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Mar 15 2018, 03:04 AM) *

A few things have got in the way over the last few weeks and little progress has actually been made on the body. Other little projects have ticked along in the background and I'll post an update again fairly soon covering those.

However, the big news is that I now have a deadline to finish off the body! At the beginning of May the car is going to be collected by the paint shop :shock: So I have just weeks left to finish the body, hopefully plenty of time. Wish me luck! laugh.gif


Looking at your work and progress I know you can make it and be ready! first.gif

That will be a huge step to have painting completed.

Best of luck!
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Posted by: defianty Mar 29 2018, 11:05 AM

Have you ever thought of something you wanted and then after a bit of research realised no one really offers that service and if they did the cost would be ridiculous? I do often and usually you forget about the idea, but occasionally you realise you know the right people and maybe you could make it happen. Well this is one of those instances when I had a very good friend in exactly the right place.

With the build being more of a Hot Rod, I guess, rather than an exact replica GT I wanted a badge to reflect that. Now I’m not the first person to make a custom 914-GT badge but I wanted a hand in making my own - just as I’ve done with the car itself.

So a while back I drew this using my original 914 badge as a template. All measured out perfectly from the original.

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That was simple enough, now it needed to be turned into a file that a CNC mill could read - so the following was created in Solidworks.

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A quick 3D render.

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Now I don’t have a CNC mill at home but I have a friend who owns a surgical instruments manufacturing company. Now was the time to take advantage of that laugh.gif

After a while a was presented with this billet of stainless steel and my badge had come to life.

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This is the machine that was used to cut the badge from the billet. It uses a process called Wire Erosion. I'd never heard of this process before and found it quite fascinating. It's process actually takes place with everything totally submerged in distilled water.

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The next step was back with me to clean them up, polish them and add the engraved detail between the digits as per the original badges.

The first step was to get rid of the machine marks. This was done on a granite block with increasing grades of sandpaper. I won’t speak about how long this process took - let’s just say I won’t be doing it again laugh.gif

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The next step was to add the texture detail and then polish. I did these processes at the same time so these photos are a bit mixed.

Polishing
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Engraving
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This shot shows the difference from the machined original.
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Instead of cleaning them all myself I sent them back to my friend to be ultrasonically cleaned.

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I couldn’t decide what colour finish I wanted for my car so being greedy I elected for one of each colour that the 914 would of had over its production. laugh.gif So one would be silver so I left one uncoated as I had already, Black as the original plastic badge that was on my 73 and Gold as the early cars.

The process used to coat the badges was PVD (Physical Vapour Deposition). The black was Nitron MC coated and the gold, Titanium Nitride.

Here’s the samples of the black and gold. The sample are a matt finish as the base metal was media blasted.
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Today I got word that the badges were ready to collect….

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You could say I was rather pleased with them.

Huge thanks goes to my friend for doing these for me and swallowing the entire cost. I could not have done this without his help. Cheers Jay.

This is certainly a process I won’t be repeating and these are certainly one offs! I do however have one spare Gold one and if anyone’s interested I’ve decided to auction it off with 100% of the top bid going to charity, DDK Macmillan of course. I'll send out more information about the auction soon when I work out the best way to do it.

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 29 2018, 11:36 AM

As the Most Interesting Man in the World might say:

I don't usually use curse words in my posts, but when I do, they are:
Get the fuck out of here!


I love how so many of us seem to have friends with crazy jobs and how often we can talk them into helping with our wonderful little cars.

Thanks for posting... that is so f-ing cool!

Posted by: mepstein Mar 29 2018, 11:40 AM

Awesome!

The earlySregistry has a thread labeled - Show me satanic details.

http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?49132-Show-me-satanic-details-please&highlight=satanic

I thought we should start a similar thread. This certainly qualifies as one.

Posted by: pete000 Mar 29 2018, 11:47 AM

You should have 914 Rubber make a mold and make plastic ones. Your metal master is perfect.

Posted by: bbrock Mar 29 2018, 12:01 PM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 29 2018, 11:36 AM) *

As the Most Interesting Man in the World might say:

I don't usually use curse words in my posts, but when I do, they are:
Get the fuck out of here!


I love how so many of us seem to have friends with crazy jobs and how often we can talk them into helping with our wonderful little cars.

Thanks for posting... that is so f-ing cool!


av-943.gif I'll ask the same question I asked Ben, did you play this music while they were being made?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu2T85LNlrQ


Love the satanic details idea and agree this qualifies. To repeat - f-ing cool!

Posted by: defianty Mar 29 2018, 12:34 PM

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av-943.gif I'll ask the same question I asked Ben, did you play this music while they were being made?


I didn't but I wish I had! av-943.gif

Posted by: mb911 Mar 29 2018, 03:30 PM

That looks like a wire edm to me but probably called different things based off of what side of the pond your on.. It think they look fantastic great job.. This is what we did today. Attached Image

Posted by: defianty Mar 29 2018, 04:02 PM

Yeah I think they're one and the same thing Ben, just different names as you say.

Love the crest!

Posted by: jd74914 Mar 29 2018, 05:20 PM

Very cool! Especially cutting it off the block with EDM. I was wondering how you were going to get it off when I saw the big block and was thinking it'd be a white knuckle bandsaw cut. laugh.gif

Posted by: Phil Plummer Mar 30 2018, 01:35 PM

headbang.gif Hello: Im going to have to drop out my 3.0 911 engine out of the 914 /6 conversion run great etc but i didnt have tin i havent driven the car but felt with a good oil cooling system and exhaust wrap id have the engine oil cool enough. So i bought tin out of Porsche restoration design and would like to know where one can get hardware and or instruction to install tin or do I have to Fabricate the harware?
If anyone knows pls help.
Regards Phil Plummer

Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 30 2018, 02:19 PM

Absolutely incredible work on the 914-GT emblems and the Porsche wall art. Just crazy really. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: altitude411 Mar 31 2018, 11:40 AM

I just want to say thanks for taking the time to post this thread. Your work is fantastic and shows what is possible with some time and dedication to something you want to do. Respect for your self taught skills. beerchug.gif Subscribed.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 31 2018, 12:38 PM

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headbang.gif Hello: Im going to have to drop out my 3.0 911 engine out of the 914 /6 conversion run great etc but i didnt have tin i havent driven the car but felt with a good oil cooling system and exhaust wrap id have the engine oil cool enough. So i bought tin out of Porsche restoration design and would like to know where one can get hardware and or instruction to install tin or do I have to Fabricate the harware?
If anyone knows pls help.
Regards Phil Plummer

Phil - the tin should just bolt on. I think I used 5mm allen head bolts. Get them in stainless steel when you determine the correct size. Just look on the internet for a picture of a six engine with tin and you will figure it out quickly.

Some race cars forgo the tin but they are always moving air past the engine. For street drivung, you need the tin.

You can bolt in the tin without removing the engine. It’s tricky but very doable. I couldn’t tell you the proper order to assemble but I’m thinking back (engine firewall) to front. The back will be the most difficult since the engine fan obscures some of the view.

Posted by: defianty Apr 2 2018, 11:21 AM

Thanks for the positive comments guys.


I busted out my crayons today and finished off this drawing I started months and months ago. The reason was partly after reading redrobin911's colour dilemma and because I'm getting close to having to make the final choice myself.

In my head the car has been going to be 'boring ol' silver' for quite some time. Now although I'm almost certain this is the case, I wobble on the decision almost daily laugh.gif Part of my reason other than just liking it, I like the fact the various colours can be added to it for alternate looks. I already have a very nice set of chrome bumpers so they will be able to go on in rotation with a fibreglass set I'll be getting soon. The fibreglass ones I'll be able to play around with like the ones below. The green giving a nod to the 914-6 GT number three car that came second at the Marathon De La Route in 1970.

So that's where I am at the moment. I may wake up tomorrow and decide on one of the other half a dozen colours I really like, last night I saw a picture of Dave Lyons GT finished in Alaska Blue Metallic and I almost drooled on my phone!

After being around for a few years now I've followed many great restorations but only now do I really understand the pain in selecting the 'right' colour. I think it's easier to name a child! laugh.gif

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Posted by: bbrock Apr 2 2018, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Apr 2 2018, 11:21 AM) *

In my head the car has been going to be 'boring ol' silver' for quite some time.


bootyshake.gif Silver is not boring! It's the best! Fast like a bullet. silver914.jpg Although Alaska Blue metallic and Marathon Blue are way up there in my book.

QUOTE
After being around for a few years now I've followed many great restorations but only now do I really understand the pain in selecting the 'right' colour. I think it's easier to name a child! laugh.gif


That's the beauty of original restorations. No painful color decisions. biggrin.gif

Whatever you decide, it will be epic! cheer.gif

Posted by: defianty Apr 4 2018, 05:55 AM

Some of you may remember this little incident I had with the trolley style axle stands I was using.

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This could have been a disaster but luckily the damage was minimal and I wasn't under that car! With paint time approaching I needed something more secure to enable me to roll the car out of the garage, down a long driveway and up on to a trailer. So I set about adapting what I had.

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I did all this a few weeks ago with just £35 of steel and a days work. I should have done it sooner really.

Posted by: Dion Apr 4 2018, 07:14 AM

Stephen those GT emblems are epic. Nice rendition.
Of course I’m partial to Marathon Blue but silver & chrome are always
going to be stunning on your fresh metal work.
Whatever your choice, it will be tops. Looks fantastic & looking forward to seeing its completion.
Your patience and attention to detail in this build shows. I do find it helpful to tackling mine.
Again.. well done!

Posted by: defianty Apr 4 2018, 08:17 AM

Thanks Dion, appreciated.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Apr 4 2018, 09:49 AM

Good fix on the dolly's, sure to be more stable. I too should have done things in the correct order like finally installing my lift AFTER pretty much finishing my car. biggrin.gif
I will post pics soon on my thread, just finished yesterday.

What ever color you choose will be the best on all your great metal work beerchug.gif first.gif
looking forward to paint pics. Assembly is coming and is fun with clean/new parts.
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Posted by: mobymutt Apr 4 2018, 10:01 AM

I love the note on your Solidworks drawing: "If in doubt, ask". I've never seen that before, but I think I should add it to all my title blocks!

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 4 2018, 05:48 PM

Is this car originally Light Ivory?

That's a solid 914 color.........

just saying

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 5 2018, 10:57 AM

Great Job Stephen. A true talent. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: 914forme Apr 5 2018, 11:20 AM

Glad to see you fixed your dolly issue.

Posted by: Casanoroc Apr 23 2018, 01:50 PM

Great work, good to hear I'm not alone in Essex.

Posted by: defianty Apr 23 2018, 01:54 PM

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Great work, good to hear I'm not alone in Essex.


Well there was me thinking I was all alone in Essex!

Posted by: defianty May 9 2018, 09:55 AM

Right let's get back on track, it’s been a while.

Rewinding back a few months you saw that I replaced the lefthand sail panel but didn't finish off that rear quarter. This was supposed to be the easy side, but it turned out to be a bit of a nightmare.

Here's where we were.
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I took my door to a local metal fabricator and asked them if they could bend me a sheet of metal to the same profile. I would then be able to use that to fill in the hole on the rear quarter. Here's what they made for me.

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It fitted perfectly.
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Welded in and very happy with it.
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I just had to weld on the flare and I'd be done with the last corner of the car. But when I stood back to look over my work I realised I'd made a big mistake.

Posted by: defianty May 9 2018, 09:55 AM

If you saw my post a few months back you'll remember this.
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I remember the bottom of the rear quarter got caught and bent on the axle stand. I thought I'd straightened it, but I obviously didn't do a very good job.

Here's a straight edge up against the bottom of the rear quarter. :shock: Yeah, that won't do.
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Try as I might I just couldn't fix this, I made a section to replace the bent edge but then went and proceeded to totally mess it up welding it in place.

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Frustrated I closed the garage door and left it for a while. Actually that while turned into a few weeks, but during that time I managed to source a used half rear quarter to replace what I'd messed up and I went on holiday.

Posted by: defianty May 9 2018, 09:55 AM

On my return I felt relaxed, motivated and full of enthusiasm. That didn't last long though.

The replacement rear quarter panel had arrived and I intercepted it at the sorting office. Getting home I ripped the box open and lifted out the panel. sad.gif I instantly knew something was wrong. An eighteen inch square piece of metal should not weigh anything near what this piece weighed.

I sprayed it liberally with paint stripper...
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That's not metal sad.gif
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That's metal sad.gif
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Once all that s*&t was removed I ended up with this.
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Not the prettiest of panels but most importantly rust free. All that filler was hiding just that dent on the bottom right and most of that I'd be cutting off to install the flare. For the first time since opening the box I was starting to think this may just work.

Posted by: defianty May 9 2018, 09:55 AM

It was only now that I noticed something with my new sail panel I’d installed. The indentation for the door handle wasn’t quite the right shape. The more I looked at it the worse it got.

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Here it is compared to the original on the replacement piece I got.

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Now I know it’s not a million miles off but it’s off enough to warrant replacement. So I cut it out and used all of the used panel I could.

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Already looking better
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New support fabricated and welded in. Getting this the right shape and size was a little tricky but after measuring multiple times welding in this support made everything measure true to the other side.

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Posted by: defianty May 9 2018, 09:56 AM

And then finally time to install the last flare.
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The arrow drawn on is a reminder to adjust the door gap slightly.

Finally back in one piece!
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I’m so pleased to be at this stage now. It’s been way more of a job that I ever imagined. The ‘to do’ list before paint is now finally just a few small things.

Posted by: mepstein May 9 2018, 10:00 AM

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Posted by: bbrock May 9 2018, 10:10 AM

I am truly jealous of your skills. I just can't seem to make those welds vanish the way you can. You made the right call on replacing that door pocket. Strange that it was off like that. I've said it before but... pray.gif pray.gif

Posted by: tygaboy May 9 2018, 10:11 AM

I hear you on the "not good enough so I redid it..."

I tell you, though, I'm of the mind that when there are little things that are off, even if you don't consciously notice them, it has an impact on the overall "feel" you get when looking at the finished product.

Contrast that to what I'll call a "calm, integrated feel" that comes from all the little things that add up.

That's a long way around to "Awesome job!" aktion035.gif pray.gif wub.gif

You're surely going to have one of the nicest GTs on the planet.
Continued great results with all your work!

Posted by: autopro May 9 2018, 10:15 AM

Very nice work, I love seeing the car all put back together. It looks so good.

Posted by: Dion May 9 2018, 10:58 AM

Wow what a journey so far. Epic, just epic. pray.gif metalwork
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BTW thanks for the info on your tach
I sent mine over, returned in beautiful condition .

Cheers,Dion

Posted by: defianty May 9 2018, 11:30 AM

Thanks again for all the positive comments guys. The hard work is finally paying off.


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BTW thanks for the info on your tach
I sent mine over, returned in beautiful condition .


Good to hear Dion, he does a great job doesn't he!

Posted by: Lucky9146 May 10 2018, 06:53 PM

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Finally back in one piece!
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I’m so pleased to be at this stage now. It’s been way more of a job that I ever imagined. The ‘to do’ list before paint is now finally just a few small things.


The effort was worth the result. You should be pleased, Looks Great! beerchug.gif
Paint is on the horizon!
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Posted by: defianty May 17 2018, 10:59 AM

The next stage has been fitting the rocker panels. It was obvious on purchase these would need a fair amount of fettling to fit correctly. I've never fibreglassed anything before so once again I hit up YouTube and sought out a few tutorials. Armed with just about enough knowledge I ordered up the relevant supplies and set to the job.

Whilst the lefthand one fitted well enough to the car the righthand one didn't - the top edge was at the wrong angle and pushed it up into the door. You can see in the pic below, there was no gap at all and bottom of the door scraped on it when opened.

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It's difficult to capture but you can just make out that top part slopes down too much.

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In the end I decided to cut off the top section and then reattach it at the correct angle. I took several measurements along the length before cutting and decided the edge needed to be 5mm higher to be at the correct angle. These struts held everything in place so I could fibreglass under the lip. Once set I then had both sills ready to fit too the arches.

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Posted by: defianty May 17 2018, 11:00 AM

So here’s the fit out of box… I guess you could say, not even close!

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I scratched my head for a while went to work cutting it up. Then with thin aluminium strips for support I could bend everything to the correct shape.

You can see just how far I needed to move them to fit correctly.

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I learnt that fibreglass doesn’t stick to aluminium foil so I used that as a backing in the first instance. I later found using duct tape a stronger method.

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Resin starting to harden

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Foil removed and offered up to the car for a test fit.

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Next stage was bridging filler

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Getting closer

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After sanding to shape and some body filler I was really pleased with the result.

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Posted by: defianty May 17 2018, 11:00 AM

The front didn’t need as much work as the rears. This time though they were both a bit big and the profile wasn’t quite right.

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Last was to cut the hole for the jack point and test fit the cover.

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Next job is the front and rear valance, they both need an equal amount of work to fit perfectly.

Posted by: tygaboy May 17 2018, 11:16 AM

Nice! I love how you just jump in to something you've never tried before. You seem to have a knack for quickly mastering every skill you need. Very impressive and you should be very proud of your results! Great, great work! aktion035.gif first.gif

Posted by: defianty May 17 2018, 11:29 AM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ May 17 2018, 06:16 PM) *

Nice! I love how you just jump in to something you've never tried before. You seem to have a knack for quickly mastering every skill you need. Very impressive and you should be very proud of your results! Great, great work! aktion035.gif first.gif


Thanks for that, I'll be honest that means a lot to me.

I lost my father a few years ago and I described him as a 'Jack of all trades - master of all'. He really could turn his hand to almost anything. I'll be happy with just being a fraction as skilled.

Posted by: Lucky9146 May 17 2018, 04:07 PM

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Nicely done! first.gif
Have never done FG myself. You have a lot of skills. Great picture too. I see paint in your future! smile.gif

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Posted by: pete000 May 17 2018, 06:56 PM

Makes me feel better about the amount of work needed to make the GT rocker panels fit the car. I had to do just as much modifying to mine to get them to fit properly. They are so far off to start with its crazy.


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Posted by: defianty May 18 2018, 03:55 AM

Thanks for posting that pic Pete.

After coming in last night I decided I wasn't happy with the angle of the flare on the rear rocker. So this morning I've decided to revisit it. After seeing Pete's pic I need to shave off the bottom corner and give it a rounder profile. Currently mine is too square. My wife thinks I'm mad to undo my work but I think I've proven before I'm not afraid to redo something if I'm not entirely happy with something. I few hours extra work is nothing compared to that nagging feeling in the back of your mind laugh.gif

Posted by: 914dave May 18 2018, 05:32 AM

Nice job with the rockers. I spent a lot of time on the rockers and bumpers to get them to fit right. The same things you’re going thru. It will be worth it when you’re done. Get the fit right now. Are you shooting the paint yourself?

Posted by: defianty May 18 2018, 06:33 AM

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Nice job with the rockers. I spent a lot of time on the rockers and bumpers to get them to fit right. The same things you’re going thru. It will be worth it when you’re done. Get the fit right now. Are you shooting the paint yourself?


Thanks Dave. No paint all be done by a professional. I want the car to look as close to perfect as i can get.

So here's the result of this mornings redo on the rear section.

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I'm much happier with that!

Posted by: defianty Jun 17 2018, 06:23 AM

An update with no updates laugh.gif

Since my last post no much has been done to the car. For reasons I decided I wanted to have the car painted by someone else. However the downside to this is he has a waiting list of a few months so the car won't be leaving here until October. The plus side however is the car will be worked on immediately to a schedule that won't drag on.

In the meantime I've had this to play with.

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James dropped the car off to me a few weeks ago with a list as long as your arm of jobs to complete before Le Mans Classic. Being roughly the same spec as my car will be once finished it's been a joy to work on (mostly) laugh.gif and also to drive biggrin.gif

Hopefully I'll have another update in a few weeks.

Posted by: 23e Heure Jun 17 2018, 11:57 AM

More working of the working on my car please, Stephen, and less of the driving thank you very much laugh.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jun 18 2018, 10:02 AM

Sorry to hear about your paint delay until October. I am sure that was a good reason to change paint shops. Will look forward to updates.
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Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 18 2018, 12:07 PM

QUOTE(23e Heure @ Jun 17 2018, 10:57 AM) *

More working of the working on my car please, Stephen, and less of the driving thank you very much laugh.gif

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Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 06:05 AM

I'm at that point now where there's very little to do until the car is painted. The paint slot I was hoping for won't happen now but I'm close to making other arrangements now. In the meantime below are a few other little bits I've finished off.


Targa latch hardware.

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Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 06:05 AM

Headlight Motors were fortunately it fairly good condition and the casing both displayed their stripes well. They only really need a deep clean.

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Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 06:05 AM

The fresh air system really needed a lot of work to refurb. Like many, mine had been left in situ when the car was resprayed previously so internally it was light ivory! It’s also not uncommon for the drain tubes to snap off and mine had suffered. Mine had also lost a couple of the tabs the retaining clips held on to so some of the pieces needed replacing. If took a while but eventually I had a good enough set to set about making good.

This is what I had to start with…

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Overspray extreme!
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I don’t think the seals are going to be reusable laugh.gif

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Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 06:05 AM

Starting to clean…

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Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 06:06 AM

This lot could be better so it was off to the platers.

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New seal pack from 914Rubber

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Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 06:06 AM

All back together and ready to install. Quite a difference from the beginning. Another stupid amount of time spent cleaning parts no one will ever see laugh.gif

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Posted by: 914forme Jul 21 2018, 09:50 AM

Stephen,

While your cleaning these up, why not list how your doing it.

Take a great thread that I love to watch and make it one that elevates the others knowledge. Mainly me as I have to do these soon also, and want to save some time.

Cheers,

Stephen

Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 10:19 AM

QUOTE(914forme @ Jul 21 2018, 04:50 PM) *

Stephen,

While your cleaning these up, why not list how your doing it.

Take a great thread that I love to watch and make it one that elevates the others knowledge. Mainly me as I have to do these soon also, and want to save some time.

Cheers,

Stephen



I think I've ben lazy with this write sorry. Everything here was cleaned using the basic things I think we all have in our garages. A degreaser, methylated spirits, white spirit and paint thinners.

The black plastic parts were polished with Autosol metal polish. However the actual top of the airbox I had to paint as it was very scratched.

The only other cleaning I did was to the electrical connectors on the headlight motors. They were soaked in a solution of distilled vinegar and bicarbonate of soda. You can either make a paste or I prefer to add more vinegar and dip the terminals in. In only a few minutes they look like new. Hope this helps.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jul 21 2018, 10:20 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jul 21 2018, 05:06 AM) *

All back together and ready to install. Quite a difference from the beginning. Another stupid amount of time spent cleaning parts no one will ever see laugh.gif

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Nice Work! Well, we are seeing them now lol-2.gif and there is satisfaction in knowing you have done this and literally touching every part. You will not regret it. pray.gif
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Posted by: mepstein Jul 21 2018, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Jul 21 2018, 12:20 PM) *

QUOTE(defianty @ Jul 21 2018, 05:06 AM) *

All back together and ready to install. Quite a difference from the beginning. Another stupid amount of time spent cleaning parts no one will ever see laugh.gif

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Nice Work! Well, we are seeing them now lol-2.gif and there is satisfaction in knowing you have done this and literally touching every part. You will not regret it. pray.gif
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agree.gif looks terrific.

Posted by: defianty Jul 21 2018, 10:25 AM

Whilst I think of it another tip I can share is what I do with my zinc plated parts before I send them to my plater.

So I know they're going to come back looking great I make sure I clean them as good as I can before sending. I also soak them all in an acid based wheel cleaner. Not all wheel cleaners are the same so you may have find a particular one. I buy mine for ebay UK and it's unbranded and not available in US. This acid dip will remove all of the old zinc. You can then clean the individual part with a wire wheel to polish them up. You can be sure that you're plating will then come back looking fantastic.

Posted by: Travis Neff Jul 21 2018, 07:29 PM

How did you resto the plastic pieces? Polish with a buffing wheel?

Posted by: Dion Jul 21 2018, 08:47 PM

Damn the air box and flapper valves/vents are amazing. So you used Autosol
on the black plastic? Need to give that a go in the future.
Assembly of that system never happens without a few swear words !
I did mine with 914Rubber’s kit right before I started my current project.
Looking spectacular Stephen! Crack on...... beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Jul 22 2018, 12:26 AM

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Jul 22 2018, 02:29 AM) *

How did you resto the plastic pieces? Polish with a buffing wheel?


No buffing wheel, all by hand, a dab on Autosol on a cloth. To be honest the plastic polishes very quickly. The plastic in the airbox itself has an extremely low melting point temperature, I think you could destroy it very quickly with a buffing wheel.

Posted by: db9146 Jul 22 2018, 09:29 AM

Wow, that looks better than new Stephen!!

Posted by: cary Jul 23 2018, 06:04 PM

Beautiful work .................. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: defianty Aug 21 2018, 02:33 PM

The last month has been a bit manic personally and also with bits and pieces on the car. A conversation with a local Porsche mechanic a while back led to an introduction to the guy he uses for paint. Cutting a long story short the car leaves here tomorrow to be blasted and then painted! The last few days have been rather frantic finishing off all those little jobs I've put off, because they're just little jobs! laugh.gif

The same guy who recommended the painted was also kind enough to lend me his rotisserie, I just needed to make adaptors so suit my car.

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Posted by: defianty Aug 21 2018, 02:34 PM

Typically those little jobs took several days and as they were just finishing jobs there was little to photograph so no pics unfortunately.

The only job worth photographing was the modification to sill to allow for oil lines to my front cooler. The cooler I'm using has the input and output on opposite sides so I decided the best option was to run a line down each side of the car. Yeah I agree it's not the norm but once the car is together none of it would be visible anyway and it was a considerably cheaper option for the same outcome.

The bottom of the left A post has the indentations originally going to the charcoal canister as I won't be needing those the space is there for the oil line. The right side however is different and required modification.

Before (I'd already previously done a small patch repair here)
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A bit of creative shaping with a scaffold pole laugh.gif
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Almost finished
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Posted by: defianty Aug 21 2018, 02:35 PM

So from here I'm hoping the next updates will be from the bodyshop. Exciting times ahead.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Aug 21 2018, 02:38 PM

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So from here I'm hoping the next updates will be from the bodyshop. Exciting times ahead.


Looking forward to it! Great to see you made it to this point beerchug.gif
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Posted by: Travis Neff Aug 21 2018, 02:40 PM

This thread is very inspirational and frustrating at the same time.

I see what you are doing and gets me revved up to get some work done on my car. Then the reality of me getting something done, and doesn't turn out quite as nice as yours, haHA!

Looking forward to the next update

Posted by: bbrock Aug 21 2018, 02:46 PM

You certainly have skills! Can't wait to see the next installment. I have to admit I'm a little jealous of you guys getting color on your cars. I think I'm losing my race against winter to get paint on mine this year. popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: defianty Aug 21 2018, 03:04 PM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Aug 21 2018, 09:38 PM) *

Looking forward to it! Great to see you made it to this point beerchug.gif
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Thanks Jim, I really can't wait either!

Posted by: defianty Aug 21 2018, 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Aug 21 2018, 09:40 PM) *

This thread is very inspirational and frustrating at the same time.

I see what you are doing and gets me revved up to get some work done on my car. Then the reality of me getting something done, and doesn't turn out quite as nice as yours, haHA!

Looking forward to the next update


I've gone back over things sometimes more than once to make sure it's as good as I can achieve. Each time I've improved and so have my skills. I've said this before and I'll say it again - patience has been key in almost every part of this build. If you have that nagging feeling in your head that it's not quite right, stop what you're doing and rethink. Of course this adds to the time but knowing you've got if right is priceless. Good luck with your build.

Posted by: defianty Aug 21 2018, 03:08 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Aug 21 2018, 09:46 PM) *

You certainly have skills! Can't wait to see the next installment. I have to admit I'm a little jealous of you guys getting color on your cars. I think I'm losing my race against winter to get paint on mine this year. popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif


There's always someone slightly ahead of where you are in your project - trust me I've been jealous of others on many occasion. This time it's my turn, but yours will come!! Keep cracking on, you'll get there.

Posted by: defianty Aug 22 2018, 01:52 PM

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And there it goes, the furthest it's travelled in three years.

I'll be checking in with the painter in about ten days time, so I'll report back then.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 22 2018, 09:39 PM

Wow, that must give you a flutter or two to see it go off for paint. This is going to be exciting.

Nice build, wonderful detail work!!

Posted by: Matty900 Aug 23 2018, 01:27 AM

Nice work. Your attention to detail is great. You're at a great point in the build. Can't wait to see it back from paint. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Aug 23 2018, 04:43 AM

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And there it goes, the furthest it's travelled in three years.

I'll be checking in with the painter in about ten days time, so I'll report back then.



Now that is a cool pic! All too often we forget to take a pic at some of the biggest moments because we are caught up in them. beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty Aug 23 2018, 06:48 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:39 AM) *

Wow, that must give you a flutter or two to see it go off for paint. This is going to be exciting.

Nice build, wonderful detail work!!


It certainly did, very exciting times indeed. Your previous comment on the colour choice stuck with me.... Light Ivory it will remain.

Posted by: defianty Aug 23 2018, 06:49 AM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Aug 23 2018, 11:43 AM) *

QUOTE(defianty @ Aug 22 2018, 12:52 PM) *

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And there it goes, the furthest it's travelled in three years.

I'll be checking in with the painter in about ten days time, so I'll report back then.



Now that is a cool pic! All too often we forget to take a pic at some of the biggest moments because we are caught up in them. beerchug.gif
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I did almost forget, but called out for the wife to grab her phone. Like you say a pivotal moment in the cars history.

Posted by: SixerJ Aug 24 2018, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Aug 23 2018, 04:39 AM) *

Wow, that must give you a flutter or two to see it go off for paint. This is going to be exciting.

Nice build, wonderful detail work!!


It certainly did, very exciting times indeed. Your previous comment on the colour choice stuck with me.... Light Ivory it will remain.


Looking forward to seeing the paint and glad you figured out a painter in the end, who is it going to, enquiring minds want to know?


Posted by: defianty Aug 24 2018, 04:12 AM

QUOTE(SixerJ @ Aug 24 2018, 10:40 AM)

Looking forward to seeing the paint and glad you figured out a painter in the end, who is it going to, enquiring minds want to know?


Thanks, it's been done fairly local to me, well 45 minutes away, in Bradwell-on-Sea, Essex by a guy who was recommended to me by another classic Porsche owner who had his car painted by him. He's just one guy with his own shop and only takes on one project at a time.

He's done a few Porsches before and understands exactly what I want done, adhering to the factory finish as much as possible. I'll be supplying him with a plethora of photos that I've collected over the past months mainly from Cairo's six restoration that he's happy to follow.

First stage is a light media blast, which he also does. I'm planning to drop in for an update the week after next.

Posted by: defianty Aug 27 2018, 06:42 AM

As surprise update...

I got a call from the bodyshop on Saturday afternoon asking if I'd pop down and help setup the rotisserie. So this morning I headed over there and to my surprise all but the underside had already been blasted.

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Still a few nooks and crannies to get into but it's looking great and I'm pleased to report there were no hidden surprises! Even at this stage with the car appearing to be just a single colour is looked a lot more complete than it ever has.


Deep breath time as we carefully roll it over for the first time.

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The rest will be completed over the coming few days.

Posted by: 23e Heure Aug 27 2018, 05:21 PM

At. Last... clap.gif

Posted by: BPic Aug 27 2018, 05:50 PM

An amazing build. Man I wish I was at this stage.

Congrats!! It’s beautiful!!

Posted by: defianty Sep 15 2018, 05:13 AM

I got up bright and early today and drove out to the depths of the Essex countryside to visit the car.

It's now been fully blasted and fortunately only a couple of tiny issues found that are really easy fixes. So that's a great relief. It's now also been been epoxy primed and looks pretty fantastic.
After seeing so many restorations at this stage over the years for some reason I find it hard to believe that this is actually my car! However I'm sure it'll become real when I have to pay the bill laugh.gif

Opening the door to the spray booth before the lights were turned on.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 15 2018, 06:24 AM

Congratulations on reaching that huge milestone. What a great look for our cars. beerchug.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 15 2018, 06:40 AM

I agree, Lucky9146 too !
Light Ivory is a great choice.


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Posted by: defianty Sep 15 2018, 10:30 AM

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Congratulations on reaching that huge milestone. What a great look for our cars. beerchug.gif



Thanks, it really is exciting times right now. It'll be another couple of weeks before i get to see the car again, but it can't come soon enough.

Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 15 2018, 03:46 PM

I thought Jim's car was Grand Prix white, a 9/11 color?

Light Ivory is less white.....

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QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Sep 15 2018, 05:46 PM) *

I thought Jim's car was Grand Prix white, a 9/11 color?

Light Ivory is less white.....


Oops ! foot in mouth.

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I got up bright and early today and drove out to the depths of the Essex countryside to visit the car.

It's now been fully blasted and fortunately only a couple of tiny issues found that are really easy fixes. So that's a great relief. It's now also been been epoxy primed and looks pretty fantastic.
After seeing so many restorations at this stage over the years for some reason I find it hard to believe that this is actually my car! However I'm sure it'll become real when I have to pay the bill laugh.gif

Opening the door to the spray booth before the lights were turned on.

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I find this picture amazingly artful this is just such a cool shot! Nicely done beerchug.gif
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Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 16 2018, 08:48 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Sep 15 2018, 02:46 PM) *

I thought Jim's car was Grand Prix white, a 9/11 color?

Light Ivory is less white.....


I am not the person who had the car painted back about 1995 but I can say that it is a very creamy white as opposed to a white white. It has always been my understanding that it is Light Ivory, the original color, done with Imron paint.

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Posted by: defianty Sep 17 2018, 07:28 AM

Certainly looks Light Ivory to me Jim.

Here'a the first shot I took and my favourite one.

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 17 2018, 08:52 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Sep 17 2018, 06:28 AM) *

Certainly looks Light Ivory to me Jim.

Here'a the first shot I took and my favourite one.

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Posted by: seanery Sep 17 2018, 10:55 AM

Light Ivory is a warmer white, Gran Prix White is a bit bluer. IMHO, vintage cars look better Light Ivory...as seen in Lucky's photo above. =)

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Here'a the first shot I took and my favourite one.

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I'm getting kind of sick of your unlimited talent poke.gif biggrin.gif

Kidding aside, this is awesome, both the progress on the car and the photo. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: defianty Sep 17 2018, 12:37 PM

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I'm getting kind of sick of your unlimited talent poke.gif biggrin.gif

Kidding aside, this is awesome, both the progress on the car and the photo. smilie_pokal.gif


lol-2.gif Thanks Bren, appreciated.

Posted by: mlindner Sep 17 2018, 05:54 PM

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Posted by: defianty Oct 6 2018, 04:58 AM

Another visit to the see the car this morning to catch up and see the progress. The previous project, a plane believe it or not, that was holding up progress on mine has now been completed and shipped out so mine will now move along a lot quicker. Not a problem though as I knew this was the case.

Not an awful lot to see but a few pictures nonetheless.


A frew bits on the floor have been tidied up that I was previously unable to get to.
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Topside a first light skim of filler over the arch welds.

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Over the next week the underneath will be completed and the car will come off the rotisserie. More updates in a week or two. cheer.gif


Posted by: defianty Oct 6 2018, 05:00 AM

QUOTE(mlindner @ Sep 18 2018, 12:54 AM) *

Stephen, that is a great build and photos. And the day it go's to the painter is heaven. Thanks, Mark


Thanks Mark, it's sure great now the the car is at paint. I'm really please the the painter is going the extra mile too with his attention to detail.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 6 2018, 05:54 AM

Nice to see the progress shots. It is a very exciting time for these projects when they go to paint. beerchug.gif

Posted by: bbrock Oct 6 2018, 09:51 AM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 6 2018, 05:54 AM) *

Nice to see the progress shots. It is a very exciting time for these projects when they go to paint. beerchug.gif


agree.gif It's even more exciting when one actually gets painted poke.gif tooth.gif

Posted by: defianty Oct 27 2018, 05:44 AM

Another Saturday morning visit to the bodyshop and delighted to see some good progress made on the car.

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Of course there's always a few not so nice bits too. Just a few small holes found in the door seal channel a a few pin holes on the boot lid structure. They'll all be welded up.

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And finally a shot most purists wouldn't approved of. I decided long ago that if the car remained Light Ivory I didn't want the wheel wells to be that colour. Personally I'm not keen on seeing body colour in that area, although if the car was a darker colour I'd have probably left it or used an over-paintable product. So underneath and the arches have been sprayed with a black polymer sealer that actually has kevlar fibres mixed in it. It's strong stuff and will provide the level of protection and sound insulation I'm after.

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Posted by: jmitro Oct 27 2018, 06:48 AM

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And finally a shot most purists wouldn't approved of. I decided long ago that if the car remained Light Ivory I didn't want the wheel wells to be that colour. Personally I'm not keen on seeing body colour in that area, although if the car was a darker colour I'd have probably left it or used an over-paintable product. So underneath and the arches have been sprayed with a black polymer sealer that actually has kevlar fibres mixed in it. It's strong stuff and will provide the level of protection and sound insulation I'm after.

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car looks great, and the wheel wells look great also. I painted my wheel wells black for the same reason as you, although my entire pan and engine bay is also black.

It's refreshing to see even the pros use body filler.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 27 2018, 08:36 AM

Just wondering yesterday about your progress and hadn't seen anything for awhile.
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Posted by: bbrock Oct 27 2018, 09:25 AM

Looking good! thumb3d.gif Amazing how much work getting those last bits taken care of. After I thought I was finished welding except for "a few things to tidy up," I blew through 3/4 of a tank of MIG gas.

I debated with myself over whether to go black or body color on the wheel wells and undercarriage. My car left the dealer with black undercoat so I think you could argue that was original. I wound up going body color and really like it, but I think it's hard to argue against black if that's the preferred look. Can't wait for the next update! beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Oct 27 2018, 10:09 AM

QUOTE(jmitro @ Oct 27 2018, 01:48 PM) *

car looks great, and the wheel wells look great also. I painted my wheel wells black for the same reason as you, although my entire pan and engine bay is also black.


Thanks, yes I'm pleased with them. Although it was a decision that took me a while to make.

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Oct 27 2018, 03:36 PM) *

Just wondering yesterday about your progress and hadn't seen anything for awhile.
This is a great shot! beerchug.gif
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I was wondering about the progress too Jim lol-2.gif I haven't seen the car in three weeks. I'm sure to a lot of people it doesn't look like much has been done but to us guys you can see the hours that have been put in.

QUOTE(bbrock @ Oct 27 2018, 04:25 PM) *

Looking good! thumb3d.gif Amazing how much work getting those last bits taken care of. After I thought I was finished welding except for "a few things to tidy up," I blew through 3/4 of a tank of MIG gas.

I debated with myself over whether to go black or body color on the wheel wells and undercarriage. My car left the dealer with black undercoat so I think you could argue that was original. I wound up going body color and really like it, but I think it's hard to argue against black if that's the preferred look. Can't wait for the next update! beerchug.gif


Thanks Brent. My car was also black undersealed too on delivery so you're right, it's original laugh.gif

Posted by: andrewb Oct 28 2018, 10:35 AM

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Stephen - from your recent experience with the spit can you tell me exactly where the C of G of the car is vertically and relative to the bumper mounts - or the boot and trunk lips if that's easier ?

Thanks

Andrew

Posted by: defianty Oct 28 2018, 02:29 PM

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Stephen - from your recent experience with the spit can you tell me exactly where the C of G of the car is vertically and relative to the bumper mounts - or the boot and trunk lips if that's easier ?

Thanks

Andrew


I don't think I know the answer to that to be honest Andrew. I borrowed the rotisserie from a friend I only made the mounts myself. The painter said to me that it was difficult to roll the car over until he raised the car using the height adjuster built into the rotisserie so all I do know is the getting the center of gravity correct was key to this. Unfortunately I don't have any measurements but I do know it needed to be raised some than the photo I posted and you quoted.

Posted by: andrewb Oct 29 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(andrewb @ Oct 28 2018, 04:35 PM) *


Stephen - from your recent experience with the spit can you tell me exactly where the C of G of the car is vertically and relative to the bumper mounts - or the boot and trunk lips if that's easier ?

Thanks

Andrew


I don't think I know the answer to that to be honest Andrew. I borrowed the rotisserie from a friend I only made the mounts myself. The painter said to me that it was difficult to roll the car over until he raised the car using the height adjuster built into the rotisserie so all I do know is the getting the center of gravity correct was key to this. Unfortunately I don't have any measurements but I do know it needed to be raised some than the photo I posted and you quoted.


OK cheers - I'll see what I can work out from the other pics. It would be a big help if you could tell me in which pictures the pivot point was coincident with the CG. Is that possible ?

Posted by: defianty Nov 18 2018, 03:34 AM

More progress this week as the outside is now at the high build primer stage. Looking great for it too.

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Rather frustratingly I noticed that when I replaced the sail panels I forgot to drill the holes for the rear sail trim. On my next visit I'll take the trim along with me and get those drilled before the car is painted.

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Getting close now :cheers:

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 18 2018, 07:18 AM

Your car is looking great. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Dion Nov 18 2018, 09:06 AM

Way to go Stephen. Exciting times now. Glad to see it close to paint!
I thinks it’s a smart move for black in the wheel wells with regards to all the debris
Kicked at them. I would only do colour if a car was only for show or a really all original.
Daily drivers and resto rods black all day...IMHO.
Keep
Posting!

Posted by: TravisNeff Nov 18 2018, 09:11 AM

I took a few minutes to re-read your thread. I appreciate you sharing all of this, I remember now where I got most of the inspiration to do some of the projects I have done on my car.

I will say your weld grinding/finishing skills and patience with it are fantastic. When I am grinding down mine I always get a spot or two where I slip and grind into the parent metal.

Posted by: defianty Nov 18 2018, 10:04 AM

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Your car is looking great. beerchug.gif


Thanks, appreciated

QUOTE(Dion @ Nov 18 2018, 03:06 PM) *

Way to go Stephen. Exciting times now. Glad to see it close to paint!
I thinks it’s a smart move for black in the wheel wells with regards to all the debris
Kicked at them. I would only do colour if a car was only for show or a really all original.
Daily drivers and resto rods black all day...IMHO.
Keep
Posting!


Thanks Dion, that's exactly my thinking regarding the wheel wells. This car is going to be driven!

QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Nov 18 2018, 03:11 PM) *

I took a few minutes to re-read your thread. I appreciate you sharing all of this, I remember now where I got most of the inspiration to do some of the projects I have done on my car.

I will say your weld grinding/finishing skills and patience with it are fantastic. When I am grinding down mine I always get a spot or two where I slip and grind into the parent metal.


Thanks Travis, it's nice to know I've inspired others as many have inspired me also on the World. That's one of the great things about this platform.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Nov 19 2018, 10:21 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Nov 18 2018, 01:34 AM) *

More progress this week as the outside is now at the high build primer stage. Looking great for it too.

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Paint guy looks to be doing a very thorough job and one that all your beautiful metal work deserves. The waiting must terrible but this is not the time to rush. Looking forward to the next installment! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty Nov 19 2018, 01:56 PM

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Paint guy looks to be doing a very thorough job and one that all your beautiful metal work deserves. The waiting must terrible but this is not the time to rush. Looking forward to the next installment! beerchug.gif
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Thanks Jim, he is indeed doing a fine job and yes the wait is terrible! However it's great to see progress every few weeks. Time has slipped a bit unfortunately but for the right reasons. I won't be getting the car back until after Christmas now and that means I'll be starting the rebuild in the coldest months. huh.gif


Posted by: TravisNeff Dec 4 2018, 08:51 AM

Stephen, can you share with me some details about your grille material, wire size etc.? I am looking for mesh for mine and it is hard to gauge how big, small and wire size to choose.


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Posted by: defianty Dec 4 2018, 09:07 AM

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Stephen, can you share with me some details about your grille material, wire size etc.? I am looking for mesh for mine and it is hard to gauge how big, small and wire size to choose.



Here you go Travis.

https://www.themeshcompany.com/products/-4-Mesh---5.45mm-Aperture---0.9mm-Wire-Diameter---SS304-Grade---Woven-Wire-Mesh--52.html#SID=59

After studying plenty of photos of original GT's this is stuff I went with. Hopefully from that spec you'll be able to find something close over there.

Posted by: defianty Dec 12 2018, 06:49 AM

I called in this morning to see the car and things are progressing well. The doors have now been hung too and are lining up nicely.

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Getting the paint right hasn't been the easiest and I've always been a bit concerned that the car may come out a bit creamy. Colours change in different lights and I'm sure owners of light Ivory cars would agree that in some light the paint looks very creamy and in others, brilliant white.

Making the final decision on the colour. Obviously the picture bears no resemblance to the actual colour but it turned out to be visually identical to how the car was previously.

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I was hoping to see the car in colour before Christmas but I'm going to have to wait a little longer now. However looking at the quality of the work so far I know it's going to be worth the wait.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 12 2018, 07:17 AM

Light Ivory is a great color and was one of my top 3 choices. Your car is going to be beautiful. beer3.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Dec 12 2018, 09:11 AM

Stephen, your car is looking great! Keep those progress pics coming.

I know what you mean that "in some light the paint looks very creamy and in others, brilliant white". Being the owner of a light Ivory I experienced that very thing when parked near a much "creamier" Speedster just this past weekend. This was even more pronounced in person of course and from a distance it actually looked bright white!
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Posted by: defianty Dec 12 2018, 09:23 AM

Thanks for those images Jim, they perfectly illustrate the colour against other shades of white.

Posted by: TravisNeff Dec 12 2018, 08:37 PM

I believe that 356 is ivory, much more yellow in it. Light ivory is definitely creamy. But then again, i haven't seen one in fresh color in a long time.

Posted by: Larmo63 Dec 12 2018, 08:56 PM

Light Ivory is a really solid color. Great choice, I approve.

In fact, your whole build is amazing and we wish you lived closer! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Dec 13 2018, 07:33 AM

Funny, my current project is a 6 getting flares/resto mod. Customer wants pure white, not Ivory.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 13 2018, 09:30 AM

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Posted by: defianty Dec 13 2018, 10:24 AM

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Funny, my current project is a 6 getting flares/resto mod. Customer wants pure white, not Ivory.


That will look like @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16353 car then. Seen below on my driveway. I think it's Grand Prix White.

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It's so difficult to capture in a photo as on my screen here it looks creamier than how my light ivory car was originally below. laugh.gif

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Posted by: defianty Dec 13 2018, 10:26 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Dec 13 2018, 02:56 AM) *

Light Ivory is a really solid color. Great choice, I approve.

In fact, your whole build is amazing and we wish you lived closer! smilie_pokal.gif


Thanks Larmo, I'd love it if I was closer too. The thought of having my car over there for Rennsport Reunion or similar would be the ultimate!

Posted by: Tdskip Dec 13 2018, 10:29 AM

Thanks for the update

Posted by: defianty Jan 15 2019, 07:59 AM

Today marked the last time I'll see the car in primer. Next week the interior, trunks and engine bay are going to be painted. So today was sign off day. The only thing outstanding now is to add the seam sealer as close to the factory look as possible. The painter has done a few test pieces and he's got it looking just right.

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Really close now!

Next instalment we'll have some Light Ivory!

Posted by: bbrock Jan 15 2019, 08:57 AM

Awesome! popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jan 15 2019, 09:57 AM

Good to see the progress! Was just wondering the other day if your car had been sprayed yet.
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Posted by: defianty Jan 17 2019, 02:01 PM

With the imminent arrival of the car back from paint I really couldn't put off the job I've been dreading any longer. As it was the last thing to come out of the car so it'll be the first thing to install so now was the time to get on with it! blink.gif

Let me introduce you to the rats nest that has been festering in the corner of my garage for the last 18 months.

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Despite and dreaming of magical electrical elves breaking into the garage one night and fixing it all this is what I had. It had seen plenty of abuse over the years but I was convinced if I took it a bit at a time I could raise it from the dead laugh.gif

Closer inspection...

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So plenty of dirt, grime, glue, overspray and previous dodgy repairs to deal with.







Posted by: defianty Jan 17 2019, 02:01 PM

So out with the operating table laugh.gif

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Slowly and wire by wire it started to come back to life and resemble something like a wiring loom. Sections were unwrapped, all connections and wires cleaned and all continuity tested.

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It's been a few long days but I finally have a loom fitting of the car it's about to go in. I've still got a few bits to sort out mainly due to a few missing grommets that need replacing but I'll do that once I've fitted the loom to the car.

I can finally tick it off the to do list! aktion035.gif

Posted by: TravisNeff Jan 17 2019, 02:37 PM

Great job Stephen! Find any wires that need replacement along the way?

Posted by: raynekat Jan 17 2019, 02:49 PM

Your wiring harness "re-do" does look great.
Well done!

Posted by: defianty Jan 17 2019, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(TravisNeff @ Jan 17 2019, 08:37 PM) *

Great job Stephen! Find any wires that need replacement along the way?


Thanks, fortunately not much. Someone had hacked in the rear numberplate lights with speaker wire so that needs replacing. I'm just waiting for the correct colour wire to arrive to fix that. Other than that it was just a big clean up job really and replacing incorrect modern terminals with as close to OEM as possible.

Luckily I have a new engine harness thanks to Perry so I didn't have to worry about that.

Posted by: djway Jan 17 2019, 04:45 PM

I like those tabs you used to indicate function.
What cleaner did you use on the wire?
Does anyone know of some good photos of a complete wire harness that would indicate which areas need loom tube or just tape? My harness is fairly thrashed.
I opened the box two nights ago to start rehab on my harness, this is giving me the motivation to power through.
Looks great.

Posted by: defianty Jan 18 2019, 02:31 AM

QUOTE(djway @ Jan 17 2019, 10:45 PM) *

I like those tabs you used to indicate function.
What cleaner did you use on the wire?
Does anyone know of some good photos of a complete wire harness that would indicate which areas need loom tube or just tape? My harness is fairly thrashed.
I opened the box two nights ago to start rehab on my harness, this is giving me the motivation to power through.
Looks great.


I saw the zip tags on ebay, just a couple of ££ and have proved handy. I need to get a finer marker though as they're quite small and writing on them is difficult.

I used a sparing amount of thinners on a cloth to remove the grime and paint. The dremel with the wire wheel attachment cleaned up the spade terminal to look as new in seconds.

Posted by: djway Jan 18 2019, 04:03 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 18 2019, 12:31 AM) *

QUOTE(djway @ Jan 17 2019, 10:45 PM) *

I like those tabs you used to indicate function.
What cleaner did you use on the wire?
Does anyone know of some good photos of a complete wire harness that would indicate which areas need loom tube or just tape? My harness is fairly thrashed.
I opened the box two nights ago to start rehab on my harness, this is giving me the motivation to power through.
Looks great.


I saw the zip tags on ebay, just a couple of ££ and have proved handy. I need to get a finer marker though as they're quite small and writing on them is difficult.

I used a sparing amount of thinners on a cloth to remove the grime and paint. The dremel with the wire wheel attachment cleaned up the spade terminal to look as new in seconds.

Mineral spirits, turpentine, acetone or? Thanks

Posted by: defianty Jan 18 2019, 04:25 AM

Xylene based paint thinners.

Posted by: bbrock Jan 18 2019, 10:11 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 18 2019, 01:31 AM) *

QUOTE(djway @ Jan 17 2019, 10:45 PM) *

I like those tabs you used to indicate function.
What cleaner did you use on the wire?
Does anyone know of some good photos of a complete wire harness that would indicate which areas need loom tube or just tape? My harness is fairly thrashed.
I opened the box two nights ago to start rehab on my harness, this is giving me the motivation to power through.
Looks great.


I saw the zip tags on ebay, just a couple of ££ and have proved handy. I need to get a finer marker though as they're quite small and writing on them is difficult.


I bought my zip tags on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0153CAU2M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Posted by: mepstein Jan 18 2019, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 18 2019, 01:31 AM) *

QUOTE(djway @ Jan 17 2019, 10:45 PM) *

I like those tabs you used to indicate function.
What cleaner did you use on the wire?
Does anyone know of some good photos of a complete wire harness that would indicate which areas need loom tube or just tape? My harness is fairly thrashed.
I opened the box two nights ago to start rehab on my harness, this is giving me the motivation to power through.
Looks great.


I saw the zip tags on ebay, just a couple of ££ and have proved handy. I need to get a finer marker though as they're quite small and writing on them is difficult.


I bought my zip tags on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0153CAU2M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I jut added to my cart. Thanks


Posted by: djway Jan 18 2019, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Jan 18 2019, 02:25 AM) *

Xylene based paint thinners.

Thanks
Ordered thinner and tabs
Upon research Xylene and Toluene are basically the same but the xylene evaporates slower. Both should work but xylene should be easier as it evaporates slower and may be better on leftover adhesive.
Thanks for the inspiration smile.gif

Posted by: defianty Feb 1 2019, 08:37 AM

A day of mixed feelings today.

When I got up this morning I was so excited to see the car with some colour on it. The drive over to the painter seemed to take forever. When I arrived the car didn't looks as I'd imagined it too, in fact it looked exactly how I didn't want it to look and I must admit I felt sick to my stomach.

At first glance I simply didn't like the colour, it looked so creamy and nothing like I remembered. We immediately got the spray outs that were done and compared them - perfect match. I then realised the lighting was awful and I needed to see the car in daylight. After moving a rather nice early 911 out of the way we wheeled my car out into the light.

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Outside the colour looked much better and indistinguishable from a sample of the original paint.

Months of build up and I'm now at home hoping I've chosen the correct colour. Not how I expected to feel.

Posted by: bbrock Feb 1 2019, 08:41 AM

Woohoo! piratenanner.gif I can imagine the sick feeling in your stomach when you first thought the car was the wrong color. Glad to hear it worked out! Looks wonderful. Big Day.

Posted by: TravisNeff Feb 1 2019, 08:43 AM

Turned out beautiful Stephen!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 1 2019, 09:16 AM

I really like it. Hard to tell, but is it Light Ivory? Getting a shell in paint is a huge accomplishment- you should be very happy. beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Feb 1 2019, 09:27 AM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Feb 1 2019, 03:16 PM) *

I really like it. Hard to tell, but is it Light Ivory? Getting a shell in paint is a huge accomplishment- you should be very happy. beerchug.gif


It is indeed but for some reason I can't help think it looks a bit too creamy. But as I mentioned above it's a perfect match for the colour my car was previously.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Feb 1 2019, 11:26 AM

I like it! Of course I might be a little prejudiced having a light ivory car.
Keep going, when all reassembled it will not look so overwhelming.
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Posted by: rgalla9146 Feb 1 2019, 07:17 PM

As with so many things we are very invested in......anxiety takes over.
IT LOOKS GREAT !!!!!
I felt the same about the prep on my wheel houses and pan. I felt it was all
inadequately done. No one ever sees what we sweat over.
I'm jealous.
I wish we could have a mid-pond 914 gathering.

Posted by: defianty Feb 14 2019, 09:42 AM

Well this is a little embarrassing.

Bye-bye Light Ivory. bye1.gif


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Posted by: tygaboy Feb 14 2019, 09:47 AM

Stephen - I am TOTALLY with you on what had to be a very difficult decision to go another direction. Not that I have anything against the color.
What I have everything FOR is choosing to do whatever it takes to make your car EXACTLY what you want.
In the end, you'll be happiest.

For my money, it's the journey, not the destination.

And most importantly: what color, what color?


Posted by: bbrock Feb 14 2019, 10:22 AM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Feb 14 2019, 08:47 AM) *

Stephen - I am TOTALLY with you on what had to be a very difficult decision to go another direction. Not that I have anything against the color.
What I have everything FOR is choosing to do whatever it takes to make your car EXACTLY what you want.
In the end, you'll be happiest.

For my money, it's the journey, not the destination.

And most importantly: what color, what color?


Says the guy who never redid anything in his life... poke.gif av-943.gif

But yes... what color?

This is not embarrassing at all. To the contrary, this was a brave decision that is also the right one. I don't have a problem with the color, but my eyes are not the ones that need to be happy. I totally get thinking about the long-term enjoyment of your car, and how it will be impacted by a difficult decision now. No regrets!

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Posted by: defianty Feb 14 2019, 10:30 AM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Feb 14 2019, 03:47 PM) *

Stephen - I am TOTALLY with you on what had to be a very difficult decision to go another direction. Not that I have anything against the color.
What I have everything FOR is choosing to do whatever it takes to make your car EXACTLY what you want.
In the end, you'll be happiest.

For my money, it's the journey, not the destination.

And most importantly: what color, what color?



Thanks, I appreciate the comments. It was indeed a difficult and rather expensive decision to make but it's something I had to do.

I went back to see the car several times and despite having a folder full of great pictures of Light Ivory cars and sure that was the direction I wanted to go it just simply didn't work for me. Being this far into the project and with much money spent I knew I needed to change the colour.

For those that know me will know that for a long time I was going to paint the car silver, I actually don't remember why I decided now to stay with Light Ivory, originality maybe? I'm not sure.

This is a picture of ConeDodger's car I've had on file for sometime and it just looks absolutely fantastic. I messaged Rob and he confirmed it was L97A Diamond Silver Metallic.

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Today this was waiting for me at the paint shop.

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The interior will be painted 'again' next week. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dion Feb 14 2019, 10:31 AM

You have to be happy with the finish. All that hard graft to get to this point.
No doubt it will be to your standards when done, and really that is the point of these “journeys” as Chris said. Both are rewarding.
Looking forward... popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: bbrock Feb 14 2019, 11:03 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 14 2019, 09:30 AM) *

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Feb 14 2019, 03:47 PM) *

Stephen - I am TOTALLY with you on what had to be a very difficult decision to go another direction. Not that I have anything against the color.
What I have everything FOR is choosing to do whatever it takes to make your car EXACTLY what you want.
In the end, you'll be happiest.

For my money, it's the journey, not the destination.

And most importantly: what color, what color?



Thanks, I appreciate the comments. It was indeed a difficult and rather expensive decision to make but it's something I had to do.

I went back to see the car several times and despite having a folder full of great pictures of Light Ivory cars and sure that was the direction I wanted to go it just simply didn't work for me. Being this far into the project and with much money spent I knew I needed to change the colour.

For those that know me will know that for a long time I was going to paint the car silver, I actually don't remember why I decided now to stay with Light Ivory, originality maybe? I'm not sure.

This is a picture of ConeDodger's car I've had on file for sometime and it just looks absolutely fantastic. I messaged Rob and he confirmed it was L97A Diamond Silver Metallic.

Today this was waiting for me at the paint shop.

The interior will be painted 'again' next week. biggrin.gif


Ha! I was going to tease you about how silver is the best color (oops sorry - colour) but decided against it... but we all know it is happy11.gif

You won't regret it.

Posted by: djway Feb 14 2019, 01:02 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 14 2019, 07:42 AM) *

Well this is a little embarrassing.

Bye-bye Light Ivory. bye1.gif


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I am also redoing a car that wa originally lite ivory and no the color in person looks nothing like photos you see. If it remains white it will be bright white, otherwise.....
Thes cars look amazing in a good silver

Posted by: defianty Feb 14 2019, 04:33 PM

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Ha! I was going to tease you about how silver is the best color (oops sorry - colour) but decided against it... but we all know it is happy11.gif

You won't regret it.


Ha, yeah I learnt that the hard and expensive way laugh.gif

Posted by: defianty Feb 14 2019, 04:35 PM

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I am also redoing a car that wa originally lite ivory and no the color in person looks nothing like photos you see. If it remains white it will be bright white, otherwise.....
Thes cars look amazing in a good silver


If you look at my photos carefully you can see a couple of lighter bands going horizontally across the image. The colour within the bands is a good representation.

The lights in the paint shop are awful fluorescent strips and play havoc with my camera.

Posted by: djway Feb 14 2019, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(djway @ Feb 14 2019, 07:02 PM) *

I am also redoing a car that wa originally lite ivory and no the color in person looks nothing like photos you see. If it remains white it will be bright white, otherwise.....
Thes cars look amazing in a good silver


If you look at my photos carefully you can see a couple of lighter bands going horizontally across the image. The colour within the bands is a good representation.

The lights in the paint shop are awful fluorescent strips and play havoc with my camera.

Sorry I meant pictures in general . Digital cameras and color balance are a pain.

Posted by: raynekat Feb 14 2019, 05:38 PM

Your car should look incredible when finished in silver.
Betcha can't wait for it to be finished....

Posted by: Lucky9146 Feb 14 2019, 07:07 PM

Better to have changed your mind now than to wait any longer, or worse yet to have ended up with a color you were not happy with when done. I applaud your decision and although a set back, having the car you want after all your hard work is well worth it. beerchug.gif
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Posted by: mb911 Feb 14 2019, 09:00 PM

Wow this is the same conversation my wife and I had about my car the other day. She hates the Saturn Red.. Says it is Orange and wants me to change it or she won't ride in it. Well she never rode in any of my other car's ..

I can't wait to see you new color..

Posted by: defianty Feb 15 2019, 02:30 AM

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Your car should look incredible when finished in silver.
Betcha can't wait for it to be finished....


Thanks, finished yes but I'm so looking forward to the build up. If all goes to plan the car will be back here in three weeks.

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Better to have changed your mind now than to wait any longer, or worse yet to have ended up with a color you were not happy with when done. I applaud your decision and although a set back, having the car you want after all your hard work is well worth it. beerchug.gif
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Cheers Jim. I'm very happy now the uncertainty has gone.


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Wow this is the same conversation my wife and I had about my car the other day. She hates the Saturn Red.. Says it is Orange and wants me to change it or she won't ride in it. Well she never rode in any of my other car's ..

I can't wait to see you new color..


biggrin.gif I don't think my wife would be happy in mine whatever colour I painted it. The first we went out in it she initially refused until I put the roof back on. Didn't want to mess her hair up. laugh.gif


Posted by: defianty Feb 15 2019, 08:46 AM

With my self inflicted colour anguish over I could get back to finishing off a few other details. laugh.gif

I had a rummage in the loft though my parts and came across my heater controls and decided a make over was in order.

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Closer inspection revealed the was certainly room for improvement.

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Careful rub down with sandpaper to smooth the surface and then mask.

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Reassembled after a lick of satin black.

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Finishing off the red and blue details.

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Posted by: defianty Feb 25 2019, 07:41 AM

Now I'm happy, really happy. Exactly how I wanted to feel when I saw the car in paint.

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A couple of bits to sort on the exterior but by this time next week it should be complete! cheer.gif cheer.gif cheer.gif cheer.gif

Posted by: BPic Feb 25 2019, 07:53 AM

Beautiful! Congrats!! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: bbrock Feb 25 2019, 09:45 AM

GORGEOUS!!! I can tell you that great feeling will not fade either. It has now been about 5 months since I sprayed the interior of my car L96D silver metallic and I still spend WAY too much time just staring at it and admiring the beauty. And to be honest, I think your version of silver metallic is even nicer but I was sticking with the original.

An expensive and agonizing decision well rewarded! cheer.gif smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: krazykonrad Feb 25 2019, 09:46 AM

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With my self inflicted colour anguish over I could get back to finishing off a few other details. laugh.gif

I had a rummage in the loft though my parts and came across my heater controls and decided a make over was in order.

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Closer inspection revealed the was certainly room for improvement.

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Careful rub down with sandpaper to smooth the surface and then mask.

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Reassembled after a lick of satin black.

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Finishing off the red and blue details.

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What did you do to bring back the plastic lever knobs? Looks great!

Konrad

Posted by: mepstein Feb 25 2019, 09:54 AM

I used some brake Kleen on a set of knobs and it made it look almost new again.

Posted by: defianty Feb 25 2019, 10:39 AM

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What did you do to bring back the plastic lever knobs? Looks great!

Konrad


I just used some metal polish. Autosol to be precise. Quite often works wonders on plastic too.

Posted by: defianty Feb 25 2019, 10:50 AM

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GORGEOUS!!! I can tell you that great feeling will not fade either. It has now been about 5 months since I sprayed the interior of my car L96D silver metallic and I still spend WAY too much time just staring at it and admiring the beauty. And to be honest, I think your version of silver metallic is even nicer but I was sticking with the original.

An expensive and agonizing decision well rewarded! cheer.gif smilie_pokal.gif


Thanks Brent I've over the moon with the way it's looking right now and knowing I'll have the car back very soon makes me very excited indeed!

I've never seen L96D and L97A together so I don't know how much difference there actually is. I was under the impression it was just a change in paint formula back in the day. I'm sure someone will know the truth.

Posted by: bbrock Feb 25 2019, 11:23 AM

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I've never seen L96D and L97A together so I don't know how much difference there actually is. I was under the impression it was just a change in paint formula back in the day. I'm sure someone will know the truth.


Could be. I only have pics of conedodger's car as a guide which, of course, can be deceptive; but his car looks like it has a slightly more liquid finish to it which is very nice. BTW, when I bought my paint, I learned there are differences between the VW and Porsche formulas for L96D. The Porsche formula uses higher end pigments and just a hint of violet. That's the one I went with.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 25 2019, 11:31 AM

Stephen - Your car is looking absolutely beautiful. Silver is a great color on our cars. beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Feb 25 2019, 02:16 PM

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Stephen - Your car is looking absolutely beautiful. Silver is a great color on our cars. beerchug.gif


Thanks Michael, much appreciated.

Posted by: defianty Mar 10 2019, 09:34 AM

Years ago a bought a replacement targa top that was in much better condition than the one I got with my car. However like many others it had lost a corner at some point in its life. It was a presentable top but need looking at now.

This is the damaged corner.

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After cleaning the area I started to build it up using fibreglass filler.

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Before long I had enough filler there to enable me to reshape the corner as it would have originally been.

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Posted by: defianty Mar 10 2019, 09:35 AM

On removing the latch hardwear I came across one screw that wouldn't budge and in the end I had to drill out the insert.

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Once I had the insert out I could see that it closely resembled a rivnut.

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So with some strong two part adhesive I glued in a rivnut in its place.

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Posted by: defianty Mar 10 2019, 09:35 AM

I'd seen Raptor Beliner used before to repaint the targa texture and fairly recently U-POL have released it in 2K Aerosol. After finding a couple of rather cheap cans on Ebay I decided to go that route.

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With the roof sanded down almost smooth with 80 grit and a few small repairs made and primered I was ready to give it a go.

Two cans later the job was done. To start with the finish was a bit patchy but I was prepared for that I knew it would impove after it had flashed off.

So 24 hours later this it what I had.

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And here's that corner repair

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Posted by: defianty Mar 10 2019, 09:35 AM

The next day I refitted the original Perlon and refurbished latches I did a few months ago along with new fittings.

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Really happy with the result. The texture of the raptor liner is a bit finer than the original finish but it's closer to the finish of the vinyl on the sail panels.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 10 2019, 09:45 AM

Looks new. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 10 2019, 11:42 AM

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I love the simplicity...and complexity...of 914 tops. 50 years later no manufacturer has come close. You’ve done a beautiful job on it.

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 10 2019, 11:50 AM

Top job! lol-2.gif

Seriously, that looks super.

Posted by: jagalyn Mar 10 2019, 12:25 PM

Nice job... looks really good.

Posted by: Chief Mar 10 2019, 01:30 PM

Looks brilliant pal. Another project superbly executed!

Posted by: defianty Mar 10 2019, 01:44 PM

Thanks for the comments guys. Another job done!

Posted by: bbrock Mar 10 2019, 01:56 PM

Nice work! smilie_pokal.gif I like the painted rear targa latches. I've been trying to figure out how to take mine apart for replating and get them back together after. I think I'll just follow your lead. Also good to know Raptor is available in spray bomb form.

Posted by: defianty Mar 11 2019, 08:25 AM

It's painted! I was speechless when I first saw the car. It truly looks fantastic at this stage it's just a gun finish but it still looks impressive.

Plan now is not to rush and leave it a couple of weeks for the paint to harden before polishing. All being well I should take delivery of it at the end of the month.


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Posted by: defianty Mar 11 2019, 08:26 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlZAbhFoveQ

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 11 2019, 08:49 AM

That looks.... well, let me think....
Words are failing me, but holy moly. That looks so f-ing GREAT! drooley.gif aktion035.gif

I'm thinking you made a great call on changing the paint color!

Posted by: altitude411 Mar 11 2019, 08:56 AM

So beautiful. Congratulations shades.gif

Posted by: defianty Mar 11 2019, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 11 2019, 02:49 PM) *

That looks so f-ing GREAT!


That's exactly what I said to the painter laugh.gif

Posted by: bbrock Mar 11 2019, 10:47 AM

Simply stunning. You will have NO regrets on the color correction. It looks liquid. drooley.gif drooley.gif drooley.gif

Posted by: defianty Mar 11 2019, 01:09 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Mar 11 2019, 04:47 PM) *

Simply stunning. You will have NO regrets on the color correction. It looks liquid. drooley.gif drooley.gif drooley.gif


Thanks, no regrets here at all!

Posted by: Dion Mar 11 2019, 02:11 PM

All of it is.....drooley.gif .
That is mega! Congrats Stephen

Posted by: maf914 Mar 11 2019, 02:34 PM

Is the targa hardware painted or powder coated? If painted, what type paint did you use? The finish looks great.

The targa top finish also is impressive. Excellent finish for aerosol spray can bedliner.

Posted by: defianty Mar 11 2019, 02:51 PM


QUOTE(Dion @ Mar 11 2019, 08:11 PM) *

All of it is.....drooley.gif .
That is mega! Congrats Stephen


Thanks Dion.

QUOTE(maf914 @ Mar 11 2019, 08:34 PM) *

Is the targa hardware painted or powder coated? If painted, what type paint did you use? The finish looks great.

The targa top finish also is impressive. Excellent finish for aerosol spray can bedliner.


The hardwear is all painted. A decent etch primer was used first and then just a satin automotive paint aerosol from my local car parts store. The paint I've used is sold as a tough paint and it seems to hold up well. I can't remember the brand of it to be honest and I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be able to get the same in the US anyway.

Posted by: bbrock Mar 11 2019, 03:00 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Mar 11 2019, 01:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Dion @ Mar 11 2019, 08:11 PM) *

All of it is.....drooley.gif .
That is mega! Congrats Stephen


Thanks Dion.

QUOTE(maf914 @ Mar 11 2019, 08:34 PM) *

Is the targa hardware painted or powder coated? If painted, what type paint did you use? The finish looks great.

The targa top finish also is impressive. Excellent finish for aerosol spray can bedliner.


The hardwear is all painted. A decent etch primer was used first and then just a satin automotive paint aerosol from my local car parts store. The paint I've used is sold as a tough paint and it seems to hold up well. I can't remember the brand of it to be honest and I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be able to get the same in the US anyway.


SEM Trim Black is a good paint and match for those parts. Comes in either satin or gloss and I've found both on the interior of my car. IIRC, my targa latches are gloss but either would look nice.

Posted by: raynekat Mar 11 2019, 04:44 PM

Man.. .that silver GT is gonna look bitchin.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Mar 11 2019, 06:19 PM

Wow just Wow on the silver, going to be a stunning car! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty Mar 12 2019, 03:32 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Mar 11 2019, 10:44 PM) *

Man.. .that silver GT is gonna look bitchin.


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QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Mar 12 2019, 12:19 AM) *

Wow just Wow on the silver, going to be a stunning car! beerchug.gif
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Thanks Jim, getting close to build up now.

Posted by: defianty Mar 16 2019, 03:33 AM

Haven't done much this week as we're literally waiting for paint to dry. However I collected another small batch of parts from my local plater.

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As you can see my door stays needed some love. The one fitted to the drivers door had worn the aluminium arm flat and therefore the door didn't stay put in any position. The rollers were also worn square. Thanks to 914Rubber for producing a repair kit for this.

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I find putting together this little pieces so rewarding, even more when you find the original photos showing you how to put everything back together laugh.gif

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All done, just need a bit of lubrication before fitting.

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Posted by: defianty Apr 3 2019, 01:00 PM

Finally back home where it belongs. I'd like to say incident free but unfortunately it had a bit of a bump in the trailer and has a car park ding type dent in the front offside flare. Annoying but it'll be fixed along with whatever scratches I'm surely going to put on it whilst rebuilding it.

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And in the garage...

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Still got the final buff to go yet, but looking great.

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Obviously I wasted no time getting to work.

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Posted by: preach Apr 3 2019, 01:10 PM

Man that's pretty.

Posted by: bbrock Apr 3 2019, 01:13 PM

Woo-frickin'-hoo!!! piratenanner.gif Sorry about the ding but DAMN son! That car is beautiful. cheer.gif aktion035.gif

Posted by: PanelBilly Apr 3 2019, 01:36 PM

Fun and frustration are coming your way.

Posted by: defianty Apr 3 2019, 02:50 PM

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Woo-frickin'-hoo!!! piratenanner.gif Sorry about the ding but DAMN son! That car is beautiful. cheer.gif aktion035.gif


Thanks Brent, full steam ahead with the build now.

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Fun and frustration are coming your way.


That just about sums up my day. Fun fitting little bits and then complete frustration try to get the front hood catch to work! Had to walk away in the end laugh.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 3 2019, 06:04 PM

It looks like shiny jewelry! first.gif

Great job (as usual) on everything, I'll bet you can't wait to drive it. driving.gif

Posted by: tygaboy Apr 3 2019, 06:08 PM

I can't add anything that hasn't already been said. What a beauty.
You should be very proud of what you've accomplished. Such great work personalizing the car to be just what you want. All the ups, downs and back ups!
I'd take you out to celebrate if I could so go buy yourself a beer and send me the bill!
Really, really lovely.... smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: mepstein Apr 3 2019, 06:28 PM

Find a PDR guy. A decent one will smooth out the dent from the back until it's invisible.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Apr 3 2019, 06:36 PM

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Find a PDR guy. A decent one will smooth out the dent from the back until it's invisible.


I agree...some of these dent-wizards are spot on !!
And that silver gt body belongs on a wall / with a big frame around it just to gaze at biggrin.gif
On the other hand : best enjoyed whizzing through canyons driving.gif
Marty

Posted by: Lucky9146 Apr 3 2019, 07:15 PM

Except for the hiccup, now the real fun begins!
Nothing like putting beautiful refurbished parts and new parts on a beauty like this silver914.jpg smilie_pokal.gif Cheers to you beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty Apr 4 2019, 03:17 AM

Thanks for all the comments guys.

Unfortunately there's a small chip in the paint around the dent right down to the primer so it's a bit more work than just the dent. It'll just have to go back to the paint shop once it's altogether, they've admitted fault so nothing to worry about.

Already hard at it getting things out of storage and getting them back on the car. I make no apologies for the amount of photos I'll be posting over the coming weeks/months. laugh.gif

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Yes this does clear the targa top when it's in place. Only just mind laugh.gif
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I got these lenses from Porsche NOS a few years ago.
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Posted by: Dion Apr 4 2019, 05:29 AM

smilie_pokal.gif very tasty! Sorry bout that incident. Glad the shop will make good on it.
I’m guessing that’s a battery cut-off near the targa latch. That’s clever. I like that.
That colour shows the details of the lines of the car so well. Great choice Stephen.
Have at it!

Posted by: jkb944t Apr 4 2019, 05:57 AM

Wow piratenanner.gif It is looking amazing! Very exciting progress!!!

Jeff B

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 4 2019, 06:46 AM

What a great color! Your car looks perfect. Dings happen-no worries. Please post a ton of pictures. beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Apr 4 2019, 07:01 AM

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smilie_pokal.gif very tasty! Sorry bout that incident. Glad the shop will make good on it.
I’m guessing that’s a battery cut-off near the targa latch. That’s clever. I like that.
That colour shows the details of the lines of the car so well. Great choice Stephen.
Have at it!


Yes I put the cut off switch there as I didn't want it visible like the GT's had. Easy to get to still and acts as a bit of security.

Initially I was going to build more of a replica GT but now I'm very much heading down the M471 route.

Posted by: defianty Apr 4 2019, 07:02 AM

QUOTE(jkb944t @ Apr 4 2019, 12:57 PM) *

Wow piratenanner.gif It is looking amazing! Very exciting progress!!!

Jeff B


Thanks.

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Apr 4 2019, 01:46 PM) *

What a great color! Your car looks perfect. Dings happen-no worries. Please post a ton of pictures. beerchug.gif


Pictures, oh there'll be plenty! laugh.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Apr 4 2019, 08:00 AM


Yikes !
Absolutely beautiful !
Great work.


Posted by: defianty Apr 7 2019, 10:56 AM

A bit of progress over the weekend. It's so good to be at this stage now.

Started off with getting the sway bars fitted. Originally my car didn't have either so this was a must upgrade and will transform the handling. Having driven James GT with this setup it's night and day compared to how mine was.

For the front I've got a 19mm Weltmeister bar. The only modification I've made is to add a collar to stop any potential lateral movement as I've seen a couple of cases of this happening in the past.

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For the rear I've just got the factory 16mm bar having installed the mounting tabs months ago. I'd heard stories of how difficult a job it is to install the droplink bushes and I can now confirm it's an awful job. It'd been easier installing a square peg in a round hole. Glad that's ticked off.

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Posted by: defianty Apr 7 2019, 10:57 AM

I also installed a Tangerine Racing shift rod bushing. This will be a nice improved over the original. After installing the shift rod through it there's zero play, nice.

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Posted by: defianty Apr 7 2019, 10:57 AM

I also started work installing the heating and fresh air system. I won't fit the rest until I install the wiring loom next week.

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Posted by: defianty Apr 7 2019, 10:57 AM

At some point in the past a new trunk lock had been fitted but hadn't been keyed to match the car. So I set about rekeying it so it was functional. A fiddly yet rewarding job. I've not idea what someone had previously used to lube it, but it's safe to say they hadn't used the right thing. laugh.gif

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On inspection the button part was a bit corroded and it turned out cheaper to have it rechromed rather than replacing it.

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And finally after 13 years my trunk can now be locked laugh.gif

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Posted by: defianty Apr 7 2019, 10:58 AM

And just because I wanted to see what it would look like laugh.gif I temporally installed the rear bumper.

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Apr 7 2019, 11:07 AM

Geesh nice work! wub.gif You will be driving it soon. silver914.jpg
This car will be immaculate throughout. beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty Apr 10 2019, 11:21 AM

I finally finished off the loom renovation as I needed to get that in the car before I got too carried away fitting shiny bits.

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All the way through to the front...

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And rear.

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I also started on the soundproofing.

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Posted by: raynekat Apr 10 2019, 03:14 PM

Looks super!

Posted by: defianty Apr 13 2019, 03:54 AM

I spent yesterday morning moving the dolly over from being bolted to the suspension pickup points to the jacking doughnuts. In an effort to stop the axle stands moving I tapped a bolt though the top of each support so it couldn't slip off from the doughnut. It certainly feels more secure and on level ground little chance of any accidents.

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With the dolly moved in the afternoon I set about adding the rear suspension. Bilstein B6 shocks and 180lb springs on adjustable coilovers.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 13 2019, 07:21 AM

Stephen - Your car is looking absolutely stunning. beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Apr 21 2019, 08:10 AM

I'm not ashamed to admit I struggle to comprehend the prices of Fuchs these days and for a while I pondered over what direction to go. Most people go for 15x7 and 15x8 on their GT replicas but the combined Porsche, 911, and RS tax was too much for my wallet. Finished the way I wanted I'd be looking at paying something very close to what I actually paid for the car!

I've always liked the 16" Fuchs finished in the earlier style and they were a bit closer to my budget. What I ended up with though turned out to be a bit of a bargain.

Euromeister came out with a pretty convincing 16" replica Fuchs and they were gaining popularity in the 914 community. The only problem being that after much searching I couldn't find a distributor in Europe. At the time they were being sold by Ecklers in the US and I noticed one day they were having a 50% off site wide sale. $400 for a set of wheels? Yes please! Postage was a killer, as you can imagine, and the woman on the phone I spoke with when placing the order thought I was mad, however they were still a bargain after they'd arrived in the UK.

This is them when they arrived a while back.

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Not the look I wanted so it was off to the media blasters with them.

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With a blank canvas I could set about giving them the look I was after.

First off, polishing the lips.

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Masking for etch primer and silver.

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Whilst I had the silver I painted the caps too. I've been buying the odd one here and there on ebay. Took a risk with a couple that had been painted so many times the Porsche badge was almost filled in.

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Masking for the black. The thin green masking tape is essential to get around the edge of the petals. It's fiddly but doable easily enough.

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Job done... Homebrew RSR style Fuchs.

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Just got the other two to do now :shock: blink.gif

Posted by: preach Apr 21 2019, 08:17 AM

those wheels are fantastic!

Posted by: Dion Apr 21 2019, 08:45 AM

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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 21 2019, 09:03 AM

Wow. Just the latest in a consistent run of hard work, stick-to-it-ism and beautiful results.
Your level of work quality is something to aspire to...

Thanks for posting all the details. I've enjoyed every step.

Simply can't wait to see it on the road!

Posted by: defianty Apr 21 2019, 11:54 AM

Thanks guys, I appreciate the compliments.

Posted by: BPic Apr 21 2019, 12:16 PM

w00t2.gif WOW! Simply WOW! Beautiful work sir.

Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 21 2019, 04:58 PM

Beautiful car. Top shelve workmanship. The discount must have been handy at VAT time.

Posted by: jagalyn Apr 21 2019, 07:31 PM

Nice work... maybe it's not 'work' though and just 'play'.
Either way it's beautiful.

Posted by: jeff Apr 22 2019, 08:35 AM

You’re an inspiration, beautiful work..

Posted by: defianty Apr 28 2019, 05:49 AM

After some searching I found a replacement felt for the original fuel tank mounts and straps. Funnily enough the only place I could find to buy it from was Germany. A 20x20cm 5mm thick was the perfect amount.

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Cutting in to pieces.

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Masking for glueing

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In position. I'll finish off the straps later.

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Posted by: defianty Apr 28 2019, 05:49 AM

In the front trunk area I recovered my modified front trunk board and also decided to make a matching tyre cover to tidy the area up.

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Bulkhead also recovered.

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Posted by: defianty Apr 28 2019, 05:50 AM

Moving on to the interior it was time to fit the first layer of soundproofing.

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I ordered 20 square foot and will probably need another few sheets to complete the firewall.

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Then on to fitting the dash in place but before I needed to replace the vinyl top.

Masking for glue.

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Foam layer.

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A tricky or should I say sticky job. Careful trimming around the air vent indentations made for a neat finish.

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Fully fitted with the dash top.

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Starting on the dash wiring with the switches. A few modifications yet to be made to the wiring because of the 911 gauges and fuel gauge yet to do but I've made a start with the excellent instructions provided by Perry Kiehl.

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Posted by: mepstein Apr 28 2019, 06:43 AM

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Moving on to the interior it was time to fit the first layer of soundproofing.

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I ordered 20 square foot and will probably need another few sheets to complete the firewall.

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You might also consider doing the trailing side of the front wheel wells.

Posted by: tygaboy Apr 28 2019, 07:02 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Apr 28 2019, 04:49 AM) *

In the front trunk area I recovered my modified front trunk board and also decided to make a matching tyre cover to tidy the area up.

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Bulkhead also recovered.

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Wow!!! That. Is. BEAUTIFUL!

Almost as good is that you used three of my favorite words: "...decided to make..." laugh.gif

You are really knocking it out of the park. Fabulous, just fabulous.

Posted by: defianty Apr 28 2019, 07:18 AM

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You might also consider doing the trailing side of the front wheel wells.


Good point, I'll get enough to cover that too. Thanks.

Posted by: bbrock Apr 28 2019, 10:03 AM

The quality of your work continues to just blow me away. That spare tire cover is awesome. Care to share any details of how you did it?

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 28 2019, 10:12 AM

I can only dream of having a car this nice and developed.

It's really fun and inspiring to watch all of these nice builds going together worldwide.

Posted by: defianty Apr 28 2019, 11:24 AM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Apr 28 2019, 05:03 PM) *

The quality of your work continues to just blow me away. That spare tire cover is awesome. Care to share any details of how you did it?


Cheers Brent.

I didn't take any photos unfortunately but it's really easy. A drew around the tyre about half an inch bigger and then cut a long rectangle just over the width of the tyre width and long enough to go about two thirds of the way around. Then just stitched the two together.

Once complete I cut a slit in the front so that after you put the cover over the tyre you can then slide the tyre board through the hole. This helps to keep it all in place.

I'm away for the night tonight but I'll take a couple more photos tomorrow when I return home.

It's maybe worth noting that I didn't use Perlon for any of the front trunk. I ordered a few samples of similar looking van carpet from eBay and got a very close match albeit slightly thicker. Fortunately this stuff doesn't have any Porsche tax on it so it was a fraction of the price. I actually messed up when ordering and ended up with enough to carpet a room with laugh.gif

Posted by: defianty Apr 28 2019, 11:44 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Apr 28 2019, 05:12 PM) *

I can only dream of having a car this nice and developed.

It's really fun and inspiring to watch all of these nice builds going together worldwide.


Thanks Lawrence. I've spent a lot of time dreaming too and it's now almost a reality!

Posted by: burton73 Apr 28 2019, 12:03 PM

Your car is really outstanding. Putting your car back together can be hard on the paint. PMB wraps the cars like mine with a temporary clear plastic cling wrap and it helps on small accidents from leaving marks. They still get some marks but that is fixed at the end. Easier on a straight color and much harder on a metallic

The level of your finish is AAA

Good job, sorry great job

Bob B
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Posted by: defianty May 5 2019, 10:40 AM

I've been busy at it this week as I've now set myself a deadline of taking the car to Brooklands on the 20th July to celebrate 50 years of the 914. It's the perfect place to debut the car. So, the clock is ticking... there's a lot to do! :shock:

I finished off the last piece of wiring aside from the engine bay. The rear light part of the harness had been cut previously and modern black and red wire used for the number plate lights. I cut this section out and replaced it with original grey and brown wire and taped it up as original.

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I then moved on to the dash to get that wired and to run the new wires for the 911 oil pressure and temperature gauge and also extend part of the loom for the fuel gauge in its new location. Whilst there I changed out the old screen washer system and installed a switch on the stalk for an electric washer motor.

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Although I previously had Euro lenses on the front of the car the light buckets only contained the one bulb for the indicator. I sourced a set of Euro buckets with side lights years ago so now it was time to change the loom and wire them up correctly.

With the loom now mostly installed it was time to connect the battery to see if I'd done it all right laugh.gif

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It felt great to see the car start to come back to life.

Seeing the warm glow of the gauges bought back good memories of warm evening drives, something I can't wait to do again this Summer.

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Posted by: defianty May 5 2019, 10:41 AM

For the last couple of days I've been concentrating on fitting the new 19mm master cylinder and hard brake lines. I'd never bent brake line before but after a couple of bends matching to the old lines became easy.

Nearly there.
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Once I finished off the front brake lines I could get on to fitting the front suspension.

Fortunately I didn't need to do anything to the rack as that job was tackled a few years ago. But this time I fitted turbo tie rods and a rose joint bump steer kit.

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What that photo doesn't show is the hour it took me to find the damn bolts to mount the rack to the auxiliary support! I finally found them in bags for the rear hubs. Put there by me when sorting after zinc coating. laugh.gif

Getting everything together for installation with new 21mm torsion bars.

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At this point I realised I wouldn't be able to do this alone and a neighbour was called on for help.

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All up and torqued to spec

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Sway bar not connected until I get the car on the ground and height adjusted.

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And just because I have to see what a wheel looks like there. laugh.gif

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Bank holiday tomorrow and a day off from the car! :cheers:

Posted by: defianty May 10 2019, 10:12 AM

I made a start on the interior this week as I finally had all the wiring complete. First with the vinyl installation and then the carpet. With a bit of luck doing it now will give the glue time enough to gas off so I'm not smashed when I come to drive it :drunken: . Still got fuel lines to run hence the centre carpet missing and I'll keep the lower dash pad off for now to make getting under the dash easier should I need to.

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Yes I did sit in it and yes I did go broom broom! laugh.gif

I think it's almost time to get the doors from storage.

Posted by: mepstein May 10 2019, 11:40 AM

looks terrific!


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Our body guys tape up all the edges when applying body panels. A little extra protection never hurts.

Posted by: Dion May 10 2019, 12:47 PM

This is one of my fave builds.
Just lovely Stephen!
Go tear up Brooklands & the rest of Southern England!

Posted by: porschetub May 10 2019, 02:33 PM

Wow stunning drooley.gif drooley.gif ,I think you would be safe to call this a new car...amazing.
Are you able to get an MOT with the bump steer kit ? reason I ask is your MOT is basically the same test as we have in my country but ours is called a WOF (warrant of fitness),with such a modification we need an engineers report.
My car will require a seperate engineers report on each of the following ,brakes engine and wheels, once this is completed I then get a WOF test.

Posted by: defianty May 10 2019, 02:44 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 10 2019, 06:40 PM) *

looks terrific!


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Our body guys tape up all the edges when applying body panels. A little extra protection never hurts.


Thanks. Yeah its's worth the effort to protect that paint!

QUOTE(Dion @ May 10 2019, 07:47 PM) *

This is one of my fave builds.
Just lovely Stephen!
Go tear up Brooklands & the rest of Southern England!


Cheers Dion, looking forward to getting the car out there!

Posted by: bbrock May 10 2019, 02:50 PM

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Yes I did sit in it and yes I did go broom broom! laugh.gif


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Posted by: defianty May 10 2019, 02:52 PM

QUOTE(porschetub @ May 10 2019, 09:33 PM) *

Wow stunning drooley.gif drooley.gif ,I think you would be safe to call this a new car...amazing.
Are you able to get an MOT with the bump steer kit ? reason I ask is your MOT is basically the same test as we have in my country but ours is called a WOF (warrant of fitness),with such a modification we need an engineers report.
My car will require a seperate engineers report on each of the following ,brakes engine and wheels, once this is completed I then get a WOF test.


Thank you.

The bump steer kit won't be a problem but the system regarding MOT's in the UK had changed now. Basically if the car is over 40 years old an MOT is no longer required. However if the car has significant modifications the MOT is still needed. The MOT only really tests as to whether the car is road worthy.

I will have to get a MOT and an engineers report for the engine change. An increase in cubic capacity is allowed but a report is needed if the engine has more cylinders.

Fortunately I'm very friendly with the local MOT tester so there won't be any problems laugh.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 May 10 2019, 09:54 PM

Your are doing a fantastic job! Really fun to watch. I especially like the top down picture into the interior, very nice. The attention to detail is off the charts! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty May 11 2019, 12:44 AM

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Your are doing a fantastic job! Really fun to watch. I especially like the top down picture into the interior, very nice. The attention to detail is off the charts! beerchug.gif
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Thanks again Jim. It's really starting to come together now. piratenanner.gif

Posted by: porschetub May 12 2019, 12:54 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ May 11 2019, 08:52 AM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ May 10 2019, 09:33 PM) *

Wow stunning drooley.gif drooley.gif ,I think you would be safe to call this a new car...amazing.
Are you able to get an MOT with the bump steer kit ? reason I ask is your MOT is basically the same test as we have in my country but ours is called a WOF (warrant of fitness),with such a modification we need an engineers report.
My car will require a seperate engineers report on each of the following ,brakes engine and wheels, once this is completed I then get a WOF test.


Thank you.

The bump steer kit won't be a problem but the system regarding MOT's in the UK had changed now. Basically if the car is over 40 years old an MOT is no longer required. However if the car has significant modifications the MOT is still needed. The MOT only really tests as to whether the car is road worthy.

I will have to get a MOT and an engineers report for the engine change. An increase in cubic capacity is allowed but a report is needed if the engine has more cylinders.

Fortunately I'm very friendly with the local MOT tester so there won't be any problems laugh.gif


Thanks for the reply Stephen,interesting as we have the similar rule about engine power increase,last time I checked we were allowed 20% which is a bugger when you do anything bigger than the 2.0 six sad.gif ,rules here are made because of fools that do it wrong and REAL car guys suffer.
Keep up the good work beer.gif

Posted by: defianty May 18 2019, 03:54 AM

Haven't got much done this week other than trying to wire my alternator laugh.gif

But I did take delivery of this load of shiny bits. I would have loved to use my original trim but they just weren't in quite good enough condition. So I bent over and paid for a new set. wacko.gif It'll be a while before I stop walking like John Wayne that's for sure!! Even the heavily discounted price I told the wife they were she still thought I was mad laugh.gif

Unfortunately the large piece that goes along the bottom of the windscreen didn't travel well and was bent on arrival so that will have to go back.

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With that delivery I did manage to get the front targa seal installed which was much easier that I thought it would be but I did use a different technique to how I was told to install in.

I fitted the top part of the seal and the corners and then pushed the downward part of the seal into the rear section of the gutter. Then with a plastic mobile phone case opening tool to pushed the front of the seal into place. The whole thing was done in 20 minutes and far far easier than trying to slide the side part all the way down the gutter!

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With the rest of the trim pieces I'll get to fitting the vinyl sail panels over the weekend as the painter has agreed the paint is dry enough now.

Posted by: defianty May 19 2019, 10:17 AM

Got the vinyl fitted today and trim, really transforms the look of the car.

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Posted by: raynekat May 19 2019, 06:36 PM

yeah....it's all coming together and looking super!

Posted by: Larmo63 May 19 2019, 10:00 PM

It's going to look great in the final coat of Light Ivory...... happy11.gif

Posted by: horizontally-opposed May 19 2019, 10:23 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ May 10 2019, 09:12 AM) *

I made a start on the interior this week as I finally had all the wiring complete. First with the vinyl installation and then the carpet. With a bit of luck doing it now will give the glue time enough to gas off so I'm not smashed when I come to drive it :drunken: . Still got fuel lines to run hence the centre carpet missing and I'll keep the lower dash pad off for now to make getting under the dash easier should I need to.

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Yes I did sit in it and yes I did go broom broom! laugh.gif

I think it's almost time to get the doors from storage.


Interior (and whole car) is looking fantastic. May I ask which carpet set you used?

Cheers, beerchug.gif

pete

Posted by: defianty May 20 2019, 12:18 AM

Pete, it's 914rubber's 'Early Charcoal German Loop'

Posted by: KSCarrera May 20 2019, 12:26 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ May 20 2019, 05:00 AM) *

It's going to look great in the final coat of Light Ivory...... happy11.gif

You wicked man... lol-2.gif

Posted by: Dion May 20 2019, 04:52 AM

Keep it coming Stephen. It’s inspirational beerchug.gif
Luv this car!


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Posted by: Cairo94507 May 20 2019, 06:55 AM

Stephen your car is looking beautiful. beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty May 20 2019, 09:16 AM

Thanks guys. Spent the afternoon doing a few bits and pieces and finishing off a few small jobs. I also ordered the oil cooler modification and throttle bell crank from Rich Johnson, so looking forward to receiving those as they'er pretty much the last couple of pieces I need!

Posted by: defianty May 23 2019, 11:01 AM

Just a little update today.

It became apparent that the 7 inch wheels on the front would need spacers but to accommodate those I'd also need longer studs. So I needed to dismantle the front hubs again and press in the new studs. Not the easiest of tasks but I got there in the end.

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The wheels fill the arches much better now.

This morning I dropped into the paint shop and collected a few more parts. Fortunately the painted offered to store everything for me until I need it which has been a huge help.

Once I've installed the hinges I'll be able to get the trunk lids fitted, which will be delivered soon.

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I also picked up all of the GT fibreglass panels.

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Really pleased I put in the time getting these to fit perfectly.

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I also collected one of the doors and hope to have that fitted and built up in the next few days. However I did ask the painter for the drivers door first but he gave me the passenger door and admitted he forgot it was left hand drive. laugh.gif

Posted by: mepstein May 23 2019, 11:41 AM

car is looking great. The steel flares are about 2" extension front and back so it makes sense that you need a 1" spacer on the front. The spacer should also give you a bit more inner fender clearance when you turn the wheel.

Posted by: defianty Jun 1 2019, 02:04 AM

The car is really taking shape now. Last week I collected the doors from storage and got them fitted.

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Had a terrible time fitting the widow regulator and getting everything lined up correctly. I'm still not 100% happy with it but after four days of messing around I'm finished with it for a while.

What I didn't notice when I was fitting the passenger door is the painter had unfortunately filled in the wing mirror holes. As if this door hadn't already caused me enough problems I then had to deal with trying to drill though from the inside to be able to fit the mirror again, all with the window regulator in place. :shock:

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Posted by: defianty Jun 1 2019, 02:05 AM

Next I went on to install the headlight covers and got lucky first time with the alignment on the drivers side and it when on perfectly.

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Obviously the other side currently fits like a square peg in a round hole - typical. laugh.gif

The bonnet and boot lid will arrive soon so I fitted the hinges and springs so they can be bolted on as soon as they arrive.

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Posted by: defianty Jun 1 2019, 02:05 AM

Having also collected the front valance I could put the front together.

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And with the drivers door fitted, it's really starting to take shape :cheers:

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Posted by: bigkensteele Jun 1 2019, 07:44 PM

Stunning! beerchug.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 1 2019, 08:16 PM

Wonderful build and fun to watch it taking shape.

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Posted by: IronHillRestorations Jun 1 2019, 08:28 PM

Looks amazing Stephen!

Posted by: defianty Jun 6 2019, 12:43 AM

Being the original door to the car the drivers side window regulator went in without a hitch and this time I took a closer look at the height adjuster and concluded that something has to be wrong with the passenger side as no amount of adjustment makes any difference to the height. Looks like I'll have to tear that one down again.

But great to get the drivers side operating perfectly and fitting well.

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I also had to make an adjustment on the engine lid and couldn't resist this shot whilst I was there.

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Posted by: porschetub Jun 6 2019, 01:00 AM

Very nice love the pics....getting close smilie_pokal.gif .

Posted by: bbrock Jun 6 2019, 09:31 AM

This is pure porn drooley.gif Can I ask what you are using to light your pics? Your photos are exquisite.

Posted by: defianty Jun 6 2019, 10:52 AM

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This is pure porn drooley.gif Can I ask what you are using to light your pics? Your photos are exquisite.


Thanks Brent.

I don't use anything special. In fact all the photos are taken on my Google Pixel 2 with daylight or garage lights as my only light source. I never use a flash. If I ever want any depth in the photo I'll use the inbuilt 'portrait' feature as it blurs the background slightly which emphasizes the subject.

With a Google phone the photos are automatically uploaded to Google Photos which has basic editing built in. I usually just up the blacks and highlights slightly to add contrast to the images nothing more.

I spent 20+ years as a Graphic Designer, it's programmed into me to make pictures look good laugh.gif

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jun 6 2019, 12:19 PM

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Always great to see your progress beerchug.gif
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Posted by: defianty Jun 16 2019, 11:59 AM

Creating a Sport Muffler.

I picked up a Leistritz muffler a couple of years ago on ebay as it was cheap and thought it would make an excellent candidate to convert into a sport muffler. I'd seen instructions over on Pelican on how to do this and just a few months ago the thread I had bookmarked was updated with a slightly revised design. So with those instructions I set about making the modifications.

Original Pelican Thread. Post 40. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/963985-sport-muffler-v2-0-a-2.html#post10058354

Here's what I started with.

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When James' (23e Heure) GT conversion was finished the muffler fitted to the car originally had an awful, ear piercing drone so I swapped it with this one temporarily and it was much quieter for the run down to Le Mans Classic. So that confirmed my £70 ebay purchase was a bargain laugh.gif

I won't go through every step as speedracer54 on Pelican did a great job explaining the process. However here's a few photos of the modifications of mine.

Cutting into the case.

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Mask on!

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After a bit of cleaning.

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Marking out the parts to be cut out.

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New hole

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Part of one of the pieces cut out put into the hole so it matches the original at the other end.

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Once this part of the pipe was cut I need to add the holes similar to the other section. Just look at how I managed to get them all perfectly in line and the same size laugh.gif :oops:

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A couple of sections had to be sealed off to redirect the flow so with a cardboard template in place I could make the plates to weld in.

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With the internal modifications complete here's how it now flows.

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Finally I could add the distinctive twin outlet pipes.
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After stitching it all back together and giving it a coat of silver/grey VHT paint here it is ready to fit to the car.

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Can't wait to hear what it sounds like now. I've seen a couple of YouTube clips and a couple of first hand accounts say it shouldn't be too obnoxious but I'll have to wait and see. If it's too loud I'll treat myself to a new one and chalk this up as another learning experience.

Posted by: gereed75 Jun 16 2019, 01:54 PM

Very interesting and timely. I too am building a muff for my 2.4 six. I have seen this modded stock muff before in all the various threads. I am going a different route as I am starting with an essentially open tube, two standard inlets and will be going with the two outlets, but will be placing them closer together ala the Boxster look.

My biggest concern is also to control the inherent resonant drone at 2400 - 3500 RPM. I have a couple of ideas on how to do it. One of them concerns the common middle chamber that feeds the two outlets. I wonder if having this chamber common tends to increase the tendency to drone, or if it would be better to separate the two sides, with no common center chamber, see attached sketch.



As I fabricate, I will be able to build the center chamber either way, so When you get it mounted I will be interested to hear your feedback regarding drone.

Hoping Ben might chime in with some trade secrets


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Posted by: mepstein Jun 16 2019, 02:01 PM

You can also keep the stock end pipe on the muffler and create a rally exhaust. Cap off the GT pipes for long drives or driving out of the neighborhood.

Posted by: mb911 Jun 16 2019, 03:52 PM

Guys I have done 10 of these sport conversion s recently.. I charge 250 for doing the conversion. They are not to difficult.. That said I still have 4 of those GT 3 or sport mufflers that are super cheap @450 and a 2 in 1 out non quiet for $400 not that you are really looking for those but thought it would help you weigh out how hard you want to work on this. biggrin.gif


Posted by: maf914 Jun 17 2019, 07:49 AM

Defianty/Stephen,

Thanks for the great photos of your work and the Pelican link. I think I finally can understand what the sport muffler modification actually does relative to the stock configuration.

My question is, do these modifications actually increase performance? Or is this a matter of sound, and perhaps appearance? Are there any dyno numbers, before and after, out there?


Posted by: mepstein Jun 17 2019, 07:59 AM

Louder is always faster. biggrin.gif

Posted by: defianty Jun 17 2019, 10:19 AM

QUOTE(gereed75 @ Jun 16 2019, 08:54 PM) *

Very interesting and timely. I too am building a muff for my 2.4 six. I have seen this modded stock muff before in all the various threads. I am going a different route as I am starting with an essentially open tube, two standard inlets and will be going with the two outlets, but will be placing them closer together ala the Boxster look.

My biggest concern is also to control the inherent resonant drone at 2400 - 3500 RPM. I have a couple of ideas on how to do it. One of them concerns the common middle chamber that feeds the two outlets. I wonder if having this chamber common tends to increase the tendency to drone, or if it would be better to separate the two sides, with no common center chamber, see attached sketch.

As I fabricate, I will be able to build the center chamber either way, so When you get it mounted I will be interested to hear your feedback regarding drone.

Hoping Ben might chime in with some trade secrets


The guy who's method I followed adapted the initial sport muffler modification that was posted at the beginning of the Pelican thread. One of the reasons for change was to eliminate the drone and to quieten it a little. I believe he achieved this although I won't know this for sure until I can test it. That will have to wait for a few weeks yet.

Posted by: defianty Jun 17 2019, 10:22 AM

QUOTE(maf914 @ Jun 17 2019, 02:49 PM) *

Defianty/Stephen,

Thanks for the great photos of your work and the Pelican link. I think I finally can understand what the sport muffler modification actually does relative to the stock configuration.

My question is, do these modifications actually increase performance? Or is this a matter of sound, and perhaps appearance? Are there any dyno numbers, before and after, out there?


Good question and I can't say I'm sure about the answer. Obviously I'll have no before to benchmark against. I do think the muffler is now less restrictive so there may be a small increase in performance. To be honest I only did it for the looks and hopefully sound. Any performance gain would just be a bonus.

Posted by: defianty Jun 17 2019, 10:23 AM

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Louder is always faster. biggrin.gif


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Posted by: gereed75 Jun 17 2019, 03:56 PM

The original 2 in 2 out Dansk Sport is just one step below straight pipes with very little internal baffling. From what I understand, it is LOUD.

This iteration is somewhere between stock and dansk sport in baffle department. Just by looking at it it should be somewhere between a stock muff and a Dansk Sport in both sound and flow. The bigger unknown is probably controlling the resonant drone. I just re-read the Pelican thread and “blee” reported “ no drone” with his shared, open to both out pipe center chamber.

I suspect this is a bit of an in-exact science, so until it’s run it is tough to know exactly. Good luck Stephen! Nice work.

Oh ya .... Louder - faster

Posted by: defianty Jun 26 2019, 11:03 AM

Well I've conceded to defeat on getting the car ready for Brooklands 914/50. With a business to run and also now being back working full-time there's just not enough hours in the day. I've enjoyed every part of the project so far and I knew if I carried on with what little spare time I have now I'd start to hurry unnecessarily and end up working on the car whilst tired and that wouldn't be fun and after this much work I didn't want to start cutting corners. I was a little disappointed at first but the few hours I've had on the car over the last couple of weekends were enjoyable and it'll still be done with time to get it on the road before the end of the summer.

Last weekend I finally made up some fuel lines and got them fitted. A nice improvement over the original plastic ones.

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Posted by: defianty Jul 17 2019, 01:30 PM

I've spent a couple of hours every now and again when I can and also managed a few weekends too. The to do list now is just a few things, the main thing being to fit the engine. Once running well enough I should be able to take my first ride! Hopefully that's just a few weeks away now.

Last week the painter delivered the bonnet hood and boot trunk lids and helped me put them straight on the car. Still a little bit of adjusting to go but not far off now.

I spent the last couple of evenings finishing off and bleeding the brakes. Unfortunately one of the rear calipers is no good. Typical as it's the only thing I've not touched on the car as they were refurbished only a few years ago. As I plan a full brake upgrade in the future I was reluctant to spend out on them again.

So with the brakes and handbrake functional it was time to get the car back on the ground. The first time in two and a half years!

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The amount of random visits to the garage is now rather high laugh.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 17 2019, 01:51 PM

Your car looks beautiful. We are close to the same place in our builds. I am hoping to have the engine in in the next 2 weeks too. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Chief Jul 17 2019, 01:55 PM

We so know how to do it in good old England biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dion Jul 17 2019, 03:59 PM

I can just sit and stare at Stephens car.
Just so tasteful. wub.gif


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Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 17 2019, 06:10 PM

Your car is outrageously DEFIANT.

What size tires did you end up using? Wheels are 15s? 16s?

Posted by: bbrock Jul 17 2019, 06:20 PM

For anyone who thinks 914s are ugly, I'd like to see them look at Stephen's car and say it with a straight face.

Posted by: flyer86d Jul 17 2019, 06:47 PM

Wow. Just WOW!

Charlie

Posted by: Lucky9146 Jul 17 2019, 09:17 PM

Can't wait to see the big grin on your face when you drive it! Man, that sure looks good!
I know what it is like not to have the time to work on it as much as you want.
Great pics too beerchug.gif
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Posted by: tygaboy Jul 17 2019, 09:37 PM

agree.gif agree.gif agree.gif with everything that's being said! What a wonderful result.
You did a FABULOUS job and have to be very proud. Well done, very well done.

Posted by: defianty Jul 17 2019, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(Dion @ Jul 17 2019, 10:59 PM) *

I can just sit and stare at Stephens car.
Just so tasteful. wub.gif


Thanks Dion. There's a chair in the garage, I've been caught by my wife several times times just looking at the car. She says I love it more than her. I know not to argue with her laugh.gif

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Jul 18 2019, 01:10 AM) *

Your car is outrageously DEFIANT.

What size tires did you end up using? Wheels are 15s? 16s?


Thanks Lawrence. The tires are 205/55 front and 225/50 rear. They're 16x7 front and 16x8 rear.


QUOTE(bbrock @ Jul 18 2019, 01:20 AM) *

For anyone who thinks 914s are ugly, I'd like to see them look at Stephen's car and say it with a straight face.


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Posted by: defianty Jul 17 2019, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(Lucky9146 @ Jul 18 2019, 04:17 AM) *

Can't wait to see the big grin on your face when you drive it! Man, that sure looks good!
I know what it is like not to have the time to work on it as much as you want.
Great pics too beerchug.gif
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Thanks Jim, that day if very close now and that grin will be from ear to ear! beerchug.gif

Posted by: defianty Jul 17 2019, 11:28 PM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Jul 18 2019, 04:37 AM) *

agree.gif agree.gif agree.gif with everything that's being said! What a wonderful result.
You did a FABULOUS job and have to be very proud. Well done, very well done.


Thank you sir. I have to admit when I first started I was a little daunted and the project involved much more than I ever anticipated. I am immensely proud, without getting too heavy I only wish my father could have seen what I achieved and saw that he taught me well and that I did listen laugh.gif

Posted by: defianty Jul 22 2019, 11:08 AM

The last job that I wasn't looking forward to is now complete. With the amount of repairs to the windscreen aperture I was always a bit worried that the anodised trim wouldn't fit.
It wasn't exactly the easiest job to fit but I'm so pleased it's now done.

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Posted by: GTSandberg Sep 5 2019, 02:18 PM

Amazing build first.gif . Lots of inspiration and ideas for my own project!!

Posted by: defianty Sep 9 2019, 01:11 PM

A very busy summer working meant I didn't get as much done as I'd have liked. I did however spend time finishing off a few bits and revisiting a few others. Not much really worth photographing hence the thread being rather quiet.

My original fuel tank wasn't in the best condition and I decided to replace it with one of the new Dansk reproductions. I'd already fitted one to 23eHeure's car and knew they looked and fitted well. Unfortunately the paint on mine replacement didn't even come close to being acceptable so I decided to give it a fresh coat of satin black.

Looks like it was painted with no preparation and with surface rust.

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So I started to rub it down for fresh paint. At one point I turned around to grab some more sandpaper and behind me heard the tank falling off the table on to the floor :shock:

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Great, new tank not looked worse that the old one! laugh.gif

There was no way of banging out the dents so the only choice was to fill them.

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After lots of sanding and painting the end result was just about perfect.

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Whilst fitting the tank I completed the fuel system...

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Posted by: defianty Sep 9 2019, 01:12 PM

Finishing off the interior...

I bought new door panels a couple of years ago with a big bundle of parts. I won't go into details here but I had a few issues with them and had to completely strip them down. modify and recover them. That was quite a frustrating weekend but the end result was worth it.

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The last piece to finish off the interior was the back pad. It had been sitting in the loft was some time now and looked a lot worse than when I put it there laugh.gif

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Under all that dirt I knew it was salvageable.

The main area of concern were the bottom corners, they had both suffered water damage. In fact one of the corners was missing.

Not exactly pretty.

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For the missing corner I replaced it with cardboard and then fiberglassed over it for strength.

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Typically when you're dealing with fibreglass you tend not to pick up anything like your camera as it'll stick to you fingers so I didn't manage any progress shots. But here's how it turned out.

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Before I put it in the car I finished off the firewall access panel. This will probably come out again whilst the engine is installed.

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Interior complete!

The next update, hopefully coming very soon will be a big one.

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 9 2019, 01:34 PM

So good to see you back at it. Could it have been due to my prodding? biggrin.gif
Interior looks fantastic or should I say perrrrfect! smilie_pokal.gif
Too bad about the tank. headbang.gif Happens to the best of us.
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Posted by: porschetub Sep 9 2019, 01:46 PM

Stunning smilie_pokal.gif .

Posted by: defianty Sep 9 2019, 01:49 PM

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So good to see you back at it. Could it have been due to my prodding? biggrin.gif


May have helped Jim biggrin.gif

Posted by: defianty Sep 17 2019, 11:01 AM

After a couple of hours fighting with the rear trunk torsion bars it was time to start the engine install. To be honest I didn't really have the time and the plan was to get the engine as far in as I could ready to lift up and bolt in.

However I only got this far when I realised I wasn't going to be able to lift the car high enough for the driveshafts to clear the carbs. So tomorrow, with a bit more time I'll drag it back out and remove the carbs and try again.

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Posted by: bbrock Sep 17 2019, 02:45 PM

Oh boy! Getting close! popcorn[1].gif

I don't want to make anyone feel bad, but I think yours may be the most beautiful 914 ... Porsche... CAR ever! pray.gif

Posted by: raynekat Sep 17 2019, 04:49 PM

I'm with Brent....your car is absolutely gorgeous. Be patient. It will be finished before you know it Mate!

Posted by: defianty Sep 18 2019, 12:57 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Sep 17 2019, 09:45 PM) *

Oh boy! Getting close! popcorn[1].gif

I don't want to make anyone feel bad, but I think yours may be the most beautiful 914 ... Porsche... CAR ever! pray.gif
QUOTE(raynekat @ Sep 17 2019, 11:49 PM) *

I'm with Brent....your car is absolutely gorgeous. Be patient. It will be finished before you know it Mate!


Thanks a lot guys.


Posted by: defianty Sep 18 2019, 12:57 PM

It took a bit of persuasion but it's in! Not the easiest to do alone with a couple of trolley jacks but like everything else I had to give it a go.

I went with removing the driveshafts in the end, I hadn't torqued up the hub nuts yet so removal took just a few minutes.

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 18 2019, 08:58 PM

Nice! Great to see this step.
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 19 2019, 08:34 AM

Big accomplishment right there. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mepstein Sep 19 2019, 11:54 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Sep 18 2019, 02:57 PM) *

It took a bit of persuasion but it's in! Not the easiest to do alone with a couple of trolley jacks but like everything else I had to give it a go.

I went with removing the driveshafts in the end, I hadn't torqued up the hub nuts yet so removal took just a few minutes.

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If you remove the lower shock bolts on the trailing arms and then prop up the arms, the driveshafts go in easy.

Posted by: defianty Sep 19 2019, 12:43 PM

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If you remove the lower shock bolts on the trailing arms and then prop up the arms, the driveshafts go in easy.


Thanks, I did just that and they're now back in again.

I spent this afternoon getting everything connected but am struggling with the throttle cable. I just don't have enough adjustment to tighten the cable, it just seems to long. I'm beginning to think the engine could do with moving back a bit. There's about an inch of adjustability at the mount so I'm hoping that will do it.

Posted by: porschetub Sep 20 2019, 12:29 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Sep 20 2019, 06:43 AM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 19 2019, 06:54 PM) *


If you remove the lower shock bolts on the trailing arms and then prop up the arms, the driveshafts go in easy.


Thanks, I did just that and they're now back in again.

I spent this afternoon getting everything connected but am struggling with the throttle cable. I just don't have enough adjustment to tighten the cable, it just seems to long. I'm beginning to think the engine could do with moving back a bit. There's about an inch of adjustability at the mount so I'm hoping that will do it.

Nice work Stephen,my new cable was too long ,cut off 12mm + @ pedal end,think I adjusted the rest out at the rear linkages .
You are SO close popcorn[1].gif popcorn[1].gif .
Startup day for me was something I will never forget ,motor coughed ,farted then blew out heaps of crap then settled to a reasonable idle....priceless.

Posted by: Dion Sep 20 2019, 04:04 AM

Nice one Stephen, that certainly looks like it belongs in there.
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Posted by: defianty Sep 20 2019, 04:39 AM

Thanks chaps.

There's certainly enough thread either end of the throttle cable to nip a bit off. So with a slight engine shift combined it should turn out ok.

Posted by: defianty Sep 22 2019, 06:44 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTNN_2MGxq8


It works!

After a full day yesterday buttoning up and double checking everything all that was left to do this morning was to add oil and fuel.

Once I knew I had oil pressure I was good to go. It took a while to get going but after it fired it settled to a nice idle as I ran around checking for leaks. Seems there's an oil leak on one of the cam covers that needs addressing but other than that all seems good so far.

I'm ecstatic! :cheers:

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Sep 22 2019, 07:36 AM

Rock on Stephen! Prepare thineself for miles of smiles!! Great job on the car.

Posted by: Biggles Sep 22 2019, 11:50 AM

QUOTE(defianty @ Sep 22 2019, 01:44 PM) *


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTNN_2MGxq8


It works!

After a full day yesterday buttoning up and double checking everything all that was left to do this morning was to add oil and fuel.

Once I knew I had oil pressure I was good to go. It took a while to get going but after it fired it settled to a nice idle as I ran around checking for leaks. Seems there's an oil leak on one of the cam covers that needs addressing but other than that all seems good so far.

I'm ecstatic! :cheers:

Great news Stephen, a fantastic milestone !


Posted by: Dion Sep 22 2019, 04:03 PM

What a great sound in a 914. Congrats mate. Long road, well worth the effort.
Enjoy! Happy motoring and all that!

Posted by: defianty Oct 27 2019, 07:09 AM

Well it hasn't moved far under its own power yet. :cry:

To start with I had a lot of trouble setting up the throttle linkage. At this point I've got around it with a makeshift solution, that to be honest works perfectly, but it's far from the factory setup so that's something I'll revisit at a later stage.

With the engine in the last piece I needed to fabricate was a new rear shift rod. I got lucky a few month ago and swapped a part for tailshift straight rod. Along with my original 4-cylinder bent rod I set about cutting them up and making a compatible straight rod that wouldn't fail the block and heat exchangers.

Original 4-cylinder bent sideshift rod top, early tailshift rear rod bottom.
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I won't document the process as it's been done many times before and partly because I forgot to take any photos laugh.gif

Here's the finished article.
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With the rod completed it should have just been a case adjusting the shifter and go out for a test drive. Sadly it didn't end up that way and after hours of trying to find all the gears I came to the conclusion that I need to adjust the clutch more. However that wasn't going to happen as there was no adjustment left.

So it's time to add a washer under the pivot ball of the clutch arm. Hopefully a simple fix, but it obviously means removing the gearbox.

This is where I am now as of this morning. I managed to rip both cv gaskets so I need to pick up a couple before I get it all back together which should hopefully be later next week.

That's not a tiny gearbox, it's just a stupidly larger jack! laugh.gif

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Still have my fingers crossed a can get a few shakedown miles done this year as well as a rolling road tuning session.

Posted by: jimkelly Oct 27 2019, 08:43 AM

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Oct 27 2019, 03:15 PM

Stephen,
You are not alone. I had to remove my gearbox after the install too! My removal was because the ring gear had to be flipped. headbang.gif
I was fortunate enough to have been told about the washer under the pivot ball early on.

It is all worth it in the end. Buy extra sets of CV gaskets they are cheap. smile.gif

You are almost there! beerchug.gif
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Posted by: jim_hoyland Oct 28 2019, 05:33 AM

Thanks for sharing and congrats on hanging in there... smile.gif

Posted by: defianty Oct 29 2019, 12:43 PM

Thanks chaps.

I can't believe that after a few hours of searching I can't find any CV gaskets in the UK. I even called Porsche headbang.gif

Closest I found was France but I didn't fancy spending $20 for shipping for a few gaskets. In the end I popped into my local motor spares shop and bought some gasket paper and carefully cut out my own.

Hoping to get the gearbox back in tomorrow with the help of a friend.

Posted by: defianty Nov 26 2019, 11:30 AM

Another month of tinkering and I'm no further sadly. In fact right now I'm further away than I've been in a while.

So far I've managed about 40 miles in the car and none of them have been very enjoyable. Getting the engine to start initially wasn't too difficult but since then it continued to run worse and worse and starting got more and more difficult to the point where it wouldn't start.

The first thing I changed out was the starter motor. I was using my original 0.7Kw unit from the four cylinder and as you can imagine it struggled. I swapped that out for a 2.0Kw High Torque unit and that was a huge help. But each time I went for a quick drive the engine performed different to the previous drive.

I knew the timing was correct, or at least close enough, tappets were perfect and the spark was good, so that just really left fuel.

Last night I pulled the tops of the carbs off and on one bank one of the pump jets was blocked and the other bank two were blocked!

This afternoon I did this...

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As you can see they're a bit dirty.

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I guess sitting in a box for three years with remnants of fuel in hasn't done them any favours. blink.gif

On the bright side I get to learn how to clean a rebuild a set of PMO's laugh.gif

If anyone's got an good sources of information on how to do this please let me know.

Posted by: defianty Dec 13 2019, 11:58 AM

So I stripped down the carbs and gave them a thorough clean. One litre of carb cleaner later and a few replacement gaskets they look much better and hopefully will perform as good as they look.

Taking the carbs off it was plain to see I didn't do the best job in repainting the engine shroud. It had seen a lot of abuse over the years and seen a lot of paint. To be honest I just didn't use the right paint. So whilst I had the opportunity I thought it best to replace it. After failing to get a reply from a couple of vendors and not being able to find a suitable secondhand replacement I thought I'd see what I could do to breathe some life into what I had.

Here you can see the paint bubbling and peeling off.

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So it was introduced to a can of paint stripper. The top coat of black paint shrivelling away in seconds revealing the next layer of paint and also under that what looks like a layer of white.

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And under the white another layer of red!

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And finally under that the green shroud.

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At this stage I ran out of paint stripper but I was close so the rest was sanded off.

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The shroud looked rather tired, the usual marks from the HT leads worn in and I wondered if I'd simply be able to sand them all out.

So slowly through different grades of sandpaper it started to come back to life.

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And then I concentrated on a patch to make sure I wasn't wasting my time. Sanding up to 2000 grit and then compound polish. It was only at this stage I thought I was on to something.

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Lots of effort later.

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I know it's not the right colour for the engine or the car even but I'm quite fond of it and for once it only cost me my time so I'm happy with that.

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Hopefully I get it running again tomorrow.

Posted by: Lucky9146 Dec 13 2019, 12:17 PM

Shroud looks great! Even the color. Why not green? I like it.

I went through the same process with paint stripper on my red shroud and almost lost it as the FG did not take too kindly to the stripper, looked good in the end, but that's another story for another time.

Look forward to hearing driving stories and VIDEO!
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Posted by: tygaboy Dec 13 2019, 12:19 PM

That looks REALLY good! Another great job by you. wub.gif

Posted by: defianty Dec 13 2019, 12:24 PM

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Shroud looks great! Even the color. Why not green? I like it.

I went through the same process with paint stripper on my red shroud and almost lost it as the FG did not take too kindly to the stripper, looked good in the end, but that's another story for another time.

Look forward to hearing driving stories and VIDEO!
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Thanks Jim. Black would have been my first choice and then red simply as they're the colours the 3.0 SC had at the time. However as a colour I do like the green and now it's in the engine bay I like it even more.

Sadly any driving will be very limited now due to the weather here in the UK and mainly because of the damn salt on the roads! Hopefully I can grab a few miles here and there as the weather permits. Oh for some Californian sunshine!!! laugh.gif

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Dec 13 2019, 01:31 PM

Porsche guys will just think you've got an E engine in there smile.gif

Posted by: Chief Dec 13 2019, 01:35 PM

Love it!
Amazing how much time these projects take. But just think if you were paying someone else to do it!!!

Posted by: P313591 Dec 25 2019, 10:43 AM

Hi Stephen,

Wow that is exactly the threat I was looking for quite a while. You have the some ideas and issues you handled quote well.

I'm located near Stuttgart and have the same kind of project sitting in my garage to get started with.

If you are close to Zuffenhausen, feel free to get in contact with me. I would love to share our experience on the 914's.

Cool things you have done to your car. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: defianty Mar 6 2020, 11:09 AM

It's been a frustrating few months trying to get the engine running well. I've tried everything I know and more after hours of searching online. So after taking a break for a while to save my sanity, I did the right thing and got someone a damn sight more knowledgeable than me to get it sorted.

Today, in glorious sunshine, it left again on the back of a trailer. All I can do now is hope it's nothing too serious.

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Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 6 2020, 12:00 PM

Gah! That really sucks and hopefully it isn't anything bad.

Posted by: bbrock Mar 6 2020, 02:20 PM

Sorry to hear it isn't running yet, but DAMN every time I see a pic of your car, it makes me drooley.gif

Posted by: Justinp71 Mar 6 2020, 03:27 PM

Not sure what you have tried, but on my webber 3.0 once I cleaned my fuel tank and installed 3 new fuel filters I rarely had any issues in 10 years... most common was a plug idle jet. Good luck!

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 7 2020, 08:32 AM

Any news Stephen ?
We need a British 914 fix.
Visited Yorkshire Dells, Manchester, Robin Hood Bay and Hull in December.
Beautiful country. Narrow lanes. Wonderful people.
Our cars are similar but you take the detail crown easily.
My 3.0 and 916 (Bott) trans rest silently while I fiddle a '68 2.0 to good tune.
More please.
Fantastic work.
Spring is fast approaching.

Posted by: PanelBilly Mar 7 2020, 10:21 AM

After I had my carbs dialed in by someone who knew what they were doing, the car ran the way it should. I’d guess you’ll be real happy when the car gets back.

Posted by: SixerJ Mar 8 2020, 01:40 AM

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It's been a frustrating few months trying to get the engine running well. I've tried everything I know and more after hours of searching online. So after taking a break for a while to save my sanity, I did the right thing and got someone a damn sight more knowledgeable than me to get it sorted.

Today, in glorious sunshine, it left again on the back of a trailer. All I can do now is hope it's nothing too serious.

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Good luck, there are a few good Porsche folks out your way, who did you send it to in the end if I can ask?

Posted by: defianty Mar 8 2020, 02:17 AM

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Good luck, there are a few good Porsche folks out your way, who did you send it to in the end if I can ask?


Thanks, It's with Simon Rudge in Essex. I've know him for quite some time now so I know it's in good hands.

Posted by: defianty Mar 8 2020, 02:19 AM

QUOTE(Justinp71 @ Mar 6 2020, 09:27 PM) *

Not sure what you have tried, but on my webber 3.0 once I cleaned my fuel tank and installed 3 new fuel filters I rarely had any issues in 10 years... most common was a plug idle jet. Good luck!


I've tried everything to be honest. Originally the carb was a little bunged up. Having fuel sitting in it for a while didn't to it any favours. My fuel tank is brand new as are the filter and all the fuel pipes.

Posted by: defianty Mar 9 2020, 11:38 AM

I got the good news today all is good with the car and it was my shoddy work on the carbs causing the issue laugh.gif

I've never been more relieved knowing it was just something I'd done wrong.

The car is now off for a rolling road tune later this week and then back home, just in time for the imminent arrival of some better weather I hope!

Posted by: Dion Mar 9 2020, 11:47 AM

That’s bloody awesome!!! Fantastic Stephen.
Happy for ya! Enjoy it and looking forward to more posts. beerchug.gif

Posted by: bbrock Mar 9 2020, 11:56 AM

Woohoo! That's great news. piratenanner.gif

Posted by: defianty Mar 9 2020, 12:03 PM

QUOTE(Dion @ Mar 9 2020, 05:47 PM) *

That’s bloody awesome!!! Fantastic Stephen.
Happy for ya! Enjoy it and looking forward to more posts. beerchug.gif

QUOTE(bbrock @ Mar 9 2020, 05:56 PM) *

Woohoo! That's great news. piratenanner.gif



Thanks chaps! I was so happy to get the news as I had prepared for the worst and to be honest I can't afford the worst right now laugh.gif

Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 9 2020, 12:21 PM

Woo Hoo! I'm never too embarrassed to have one of my mistakes corrected. I seem to make enough of them.

Posted by: defianty Mar 29 2020, 04:38 AM

It turned out there was actually more wrong with the car than initially thought although nothing too serious.

After the carbs were rebuilt again the car went to the rolling road but things didn't go to plan and it was discovered the distributor wasn't at all well.

With what we're all facing now the car, with it's now functioning distributor, won't be heading back to the rolling road for a while. So as it was running well enough to drive, earlier in the week I collected it.

Huge thanks to Simon Rudge for his assistance in getting the car up and running.

Once again sharing the same garage as 23e Heure's GT
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The car was about an hour from me in the North Essex countryside. It was a beautiful day and the drive home on deserted country roads was fantastic and just the ticket from being stuck indoors.

Obligatory stop for a quick photo.
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Whilst the car was with Simon I also got him to install a Rennshift performance shifter. Such an improvement and one I'd thoroughly recommend to any 914 owner.

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So far the performance of the car meets my expectations but I'll do a full write up at a later date when everything it properly dialled in and we can get back out on the roads again.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 29 2020, 07:59 AM

That is just a beautiful car. wub.gif beerchug.gif

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 29 2020, 08:10 AM

Wonderful news! Another bar-setting 914 is on the road!

You have done such a wonderful job on your car. Nothing more to say except:

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Posted by: Lucky9146 Mar 29 2020, 10:19 AM

So happy to see it on the road! Looks great! You did a fantastic job. first.gif
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Posted by: defianty Mar 29 2020, 10:35 AM

Thanks guys. Still plenty of fettling to go yet and sadly as we're on a lockdown here in the UK, no driving.

Posted by: Biggles Mar 29 2020, 11:23 AM

Great news Stephen - what a relief !
Look forward to catching up one day when we are all allowed back on the road !!

Posted by: defianty Mar 29 2020, 11:53 AM

QUOTE(Biggles @ Mar 29 2020, 06:23 PM) *

Great news Stephen - what a relief !
Look forward to catching up one day when we are all allowed back on the road !!


Cheers Chris. Very much looking forward to some summer drives!

Posted by: defianty May 2 2020, 04:43 AM

Opportunities to get out are obviously few and far between right now, but there's no harm in extending an essential trip, is there :wink:

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Posted by: Lucky9146 May 2 2020, 06:09 AM

Nice! first.gif

Great picture in the wild.

Isn't it fun to drive with a 6? Congrats again beerchug.gif
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Posted by: Dion May 2 2020, 08:47 AM

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Posted by: PanelBilly May 2 2020, 10:01 AM

You need to shoot a video so we can here it roar

Posted by: TorontoDave Oct 19 2020, 10:10 AM

..."underneath and the arches have been sprayed with a black polymer sealer that actually has kevlar fibres mixed in it. It's strong stuff and will provide the level of protection and sound insulation I'm after."

Hi. I know it's been a couple of years. I'm wondering exactly which product you sprayed in the wheel wells to achieve that texture. Is it the same Raptor liner you used for the top? Thanks.


Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 19 2020, 10:14 AM

Some great pictures! So good to see this 914-6 on the road.

Posted by: defianty Oct 20 2020, 09:34 AM

QUOTE(TorontoDave @ Oct 19 2020, 05:10 PM) *

..."underneath and the arches have been sprayed with a black polymer sealer that actually has kevlar fibres mixed in it. It's strong stuff and will provide the level of protection and sound insulation I'm after."

Hi. I know it's been a couple of years. I'm wondering exactly which product you sprayed in the wheel wells to achieve that texture. Is it the same Raptor liner you used for the top? Thanks.


Hi Dave, the product used was called speedliner which also had Kevlar fibres added in. I don't know if speedliner is available outside of the UK. It is essentially a British version of Raptor.
I hope that helps.

Posted by: Mark Henry Oct 20 2020, 05:10 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Nov 26 2019, 01:30 PM) *

Another month of tinkering and I'm no further sadly. In fact right now I'm further away than I've been in a while.

So far I've managed about 40 miles in the car and none of them have been very enjoyable. Getting the engine to start initially wasn't too difficult but since then it continued to run worse and worse and starting got more and more difficult to the point where it wouldn't start.

The first thing I changed out was the starter motor. I was using my original 0.7Kw unit from the four cylinder and as you can imagine it struggled. I swapped that out for a 2.0Kw High Torque unit and that was a huge help. But each time I went for a quick drive the engine performed different to the previous drive.

I knew the timing was correct, or at least close enough, tappets were perfect and the spark was good, so that just really left fuel.

Last night I pulled the tops of the carbs off and on one bank one of the pump jets was blocked and the other bank two were blocked!

This afternoon I did this...

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As you can see they're a bit dirty.

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I guess sitting in a box for three years with remnants of fuel in hasn't done them any favours. blink.gif

On the bright side I get to learn how to clean a rebuild a set of PMO's laugh.gif

If anyone's got an good sources of information on how to do this please let me know.



This is a a good pic of PMO's which use IDF floats instead of the IDA floats.
If you're going to run carbs you need to know how to do this chore.
Nice build. thumb3d.gif

Posted by: TorontoDave Oct 20 2020, 05:41 PM

QUOTE(defianty @ Oct 20 2020, 11:34 AM) *

QUOTE(TorontoDave @ Oct 19 2020, 05:10 PM) *

..."underneath and the arches have been sprayed with a black polymer sealer that actually has kevlar fibres mixed in it. It's strong stuff and will provide the level of protection and sound insulation I'm after."

Hi. I know it's been a couple of years. I'm wondering exactly which product you sprayed in the wheel wells to achieve that texture. Is it the same Raptor liner you used for the top? Thanks.


Hi Dave, the product used was called speedliner which also had Kevlar fibres added in. I don't know if speedliner is available outside of the UK. It is essentially a British version of Raptor.
I hope that helps.


Doesn't look like I can get that product over the counter here in Canada. Raptor should be no problem though. Thanks a bunch. Hey, fantastic job on your car biggrin.gif

Posted by: TRS63 Oct 26 2020, 10:23 AM

Stephen, I just read the 29 pages in the last few days and it has been incredibly interesting and motivating. Thanks for sharing your journey!
Cheers from Stuttgart,
Antoine

Posted by: PanelBilly Oct 26 2020, 11:10 AM

Wonderful to see another project ready to be enjoyed on the road. I’d too like to see a video with sound.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Oct 26 2020, 12:00 PM

What a great looking car!

As or carb sorting on a fresh six…been there done that. Had them gone through on the bench by someone who knows Webers before install, but the car drove horribly until I booked a day on the dyno. That day picked up drivability (big time, which was the goal), but also power, moving from 135 hp at the rear wheels to 169.9. The carbs were so much nicer to live with after that, and have been tweaked ever so slightly since. Pretty nice now, but any estimation has to be tempered by the fact that they're…carbs.

Posted by: MM1 Oct 26 2020, 12:29 PM

Well done, Sir! Yes . . .we crave that video with proper, glorious sounds!

Posted by: defianty Mar 17 2022, 11:11 AM

I think they call this a thread resurrection!

The journey is never over and it's time for a well overdue update. Although not an update I wanted to do.

Since hitting the road with the finished car it hasn't all been good. In fact, I've had very little enjoyment out of it since completion and sadly I've only covered just over 1000 miles. Most of those were spent wondering if the engine was going to get me home due the rattling sounds it was making and the ever decreasing oil pressure. headbang.gif

During the summer last year after heading back from a local car and coffee meet things took a turn for the worse and the car was seriously down on power. Having exhausted every option available to me I pulled the engine out of the car, stuck two fingers up at it, closed the garage door and walked away.

It was months until I got back stuck back in after I'd gained some enthusiasm and rapidly running out of time to get the car to Le Man for the Classic.

After many hours of research I encouraged to do a DIY rebuild of the engine. It still scares the hell out of me saying that but the more I get stuck in the more my confidence builds.

I'm just on the strip down and investigative stage at the moment, but I'm enjoying the process and learning lots along the way.


That day about eight months ago when I decided enough was enough!

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Ancillaries off and getting down to it.

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The first unexpected surprise! - 3.2L heads

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New workbench with little space left already!

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Next step is to split the case - this shot was taken before I got a new engine yoke.

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More updates soon as we get inside this thing!


Posted by: Root_Werks Mar 17 2022, 12:15 PM

Son of a B$!@#%, really sucks to have to pull an engine.

Not seeing any smoking guns yet which means it could be rod or main bearing?

Posted by: Dion Mar 17 2022, 12:23 PM

Oh no Stephan!! Sorry that happened. Uggh, my current worse nitemare.
Well you dived in Sir. Hats off to you! I know you’ll sort it.
Keep the pics and lessons coming.

Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 17 2022, 01:03 PM

Enjoy the journey. smash.gif idea.gif sawzall-smiley.gif headbang.gif confused24.gif smash.gif hissyfit.gif headbang.gif blink.gif





The rewards will be great on the other end. driving.gif biggrin.gif boldblue.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 17 2022, 01:27 PM

Unbelievable Stephan !
I'm happy to see you back but wish it was for a happier reason.
I kept up with your thread and loved every minute.
Here we are years later and MY long awaited engine (3.0) proved to be
'not so healthy' too.
Sooooo..... back out it is and the start of a deep dive.
Best
Rory



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Posted by: Lucky9146 Mar 17 2022, 10:26 PM

Stephan,
Good to hear from you but sorry for the circumstances.

We shared many like experiences at the time on our cars during our builds, although you are a far better metal worker than I. pray.gif

I went though my 3.0 and would be happy to provide any info I can to help.

Best to you beerchug.gif
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Posted by: tygaboy Mar 17 2022, 10:33 PM

Certainly sucks but you've demonstrated your ability to master EVERYTHING you attempt and it's a safe bet that "successful engine rebuilding" will soon be added to your CV.

Can't wait to see it back on the road and you with a big smile! aktion035.gif

Posted by: defianty Mar 18 2022, 02:16 AM

Thanks for the encouragement guys.

With help we split the case last night and essentially found an engine in very good condition. I'll post photos later. No evidence of any wear to the crank or any bearings just a few very light marks. We'd already inspected the pistons and cylinders to see no issues.

The worst wear was founds on all the timing gears on the intermediate shaft which is what I expected as it was a timing chain like noise that was driving me mad, they will all be replaced with new Porsche parts.

All in all, I think I got away lightly and the shopping list, although lengthy, could have been a lot worse and more expensive.

Next step is to clean everything and get some parts to the machine shop for polishing etc.

We're certain the loss of power is not attributed to the condition of the engine, which is great news. We do have other thoughts and will address those as we put everything back together again.


Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 18 2022, 03:58 AM

While apart get a full engine balance done and check the valve guides.

Posted by: defianty Mar 18 2022, 04:46 AM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Mar 18 2022, 09:58 AM) *

While apart get a full engine balance done and check the valve guides.


Absolutely, all planned.

Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 18 2022, 04:57 AM

While in there you might want to think about re-plating the cylinders and adding some 9.5:1 CR pistons, opening up the ports on the 3.2 heads and a set of healthy cams. That would wake the engine up, likely getting you over the 200hp mark.

A link to my 3.0 engine build http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=229913

Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 18 2022, 05:33 AM


Short stroke 3.2 shades.gif

Posted by: Krieger Mar 18 2022, 08:54 AM

Have you taken apart the oil pump yet? See if the two nuts holding it together are loose. I had a similar power loss problem with my 3 liter. The nuts that hold the pump together were finger tight.

Posted by: defianty Mar 18 2022, 10:29 AM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Mar 18 2022, 10:57 AM) *

While in there you might want to think about re-plating the cylinders and adding some 9.5:1 CR pistons, opening up the ports on the 3.2 heads and a set of healthy cams. That would wake the engine up, likely getting you over the 200hp mark.

A link to my 3.0 engine build http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=229913


As tempting as that is I'm happy with the power as it was. It's a 930/10 so already 204bhp. Plus with a 901 box I don't want to push it too much.

Posted by: defianty Mar 18 2022, 10:30 AM

QUOTE(Krieger @ Mar 18 2022, 02:54 PM) *

Have you taken apart the oil pump yet? See if the two nuts holding it together are loose. I had a similar power loss problem with my 3 liter. The nuts that hold the pump together were finger tight.


Not yet, that'll be tomorrow. I'm fairly sure I'm going to replace the pump for piece of mind.

Posted by: targa72e Mar 18 2022, 11:07 PM

Pump is easy to inspect and with no major engine failure probably in good shape. If good just clean and reuse. Keep all the gears in same orientation while dissembled. Lots of information available on what to look for when inspecting.

john

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