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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jun 5 2017, 12:40 PM


Hi everyone! So I started an account here to help my father rebuild his '75 914 1.8. Basically I am working on this car as a summer project in the weekends and maybe a weekday here and there if I have the time.

This 914 has been garage kept for 20 years (1997) and as a 20 year anniversary it would be nice to resurrect this little guy.

Here are some photos of the first day taking it out followed by washing, vacuuming, removing some exterior and flushing the fluids:

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Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 5 2017, 12:50 PM

Nice project to start with. Be aware that it looks to be a '75, not a '74. Good luck.

Posted by: tomh Jun 5 2017, 12:52 PM

Don't think that's a 74 with those bumpers!

Posted by: Edward Blume Jun 5 2017, 02:16 PM

L.A. Raiders? Now there's a relic.

Good luck with the rebuild! aktion035.gif

Posted by: Tom_T Jun 5 2017, 03:05 PM

welcome.png ... to both you & your Dad!

As others have said - it's probably a 1975 built in 74 (the model years overlap calendar years Aug to July).

Look at your VIN sticker &/or plates & if the VIN starts with 475... then it's a 1975 MY, 474... = 74 MY, 476... = 76, etc.

Make sure to check & change all soft lines as needed before any driving it.

Here's a goal for you & your Dad to shoot for together - LA Porsche Club has a Show at the Santa Monica Airport Museum of Flying on 9/10, where you can park in the Porsche display "Corral" out front of the museum for free & check out coll "Porsches & Planes"!

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/pca-la-2017-concours-d-elegance-museum-of-flying-los-angeles-932761

There are a bunch of other SoCal events & drives all year long, if you two want other Father-Son Fun alternatives & activities at the calendar link below. You can both join PCA for $46/yr & get a great Panorama magazine + the local LA one to boot - worth the price alone - aside from all the events.

http://www.zone8.org/calendar.php

Have

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jun 5 2017, 07:05 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jun 5 2017, 11:50 AM) *

Nice project to start with. Be aware that it looks to be a '75, not a '74. Good luck.


You are right. He told me it was a '74 and I asked if he could double check it and yes it is a '75. That is what happens when you are at that age of retirement. Glad I am here I knew people know their 914's.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jun 5 2017, 07:12 PM

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Jun 5 2017, 02:05 PM) *

welcome.png ... to both you & your Dad!

As others have said - it's probably a 1975 built in 74 (the model years overlap calendar years Aug to July).

Look at your VIN sticker &/or plates & if the VIN starts with 475... then it's a 1975 MY, 474... = 74 MY, 476... = 76, etc.

Make sure to check & change all soft lines as needed before any driving it.

Here's a goal for you & your Dad to shoot for together - LA Porsche Club has a Show at the Santa Monica Airport Museum of Flying on 9/10, where you can park in the Porsche display "Corral" out front of the museum for free & check out coll "Porsches & Planes"!

https://www.motorsportreg.com/events/pca-la-2017-concours-d-elegance-museum-of-flying-los-angeles-932761

There are a bunch of other SoCal events & drives all year long, if you two want other Father-Son Fun alternatives & activities at the calendar link below. You can both join PCA for $46/yr & get a great Panorama magazine + the local LA one to boot - worth the price alone - aside from all the events.

http://www.zone8.org/calendar.php

Have

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Thanks for the resources, I will check it out! I am mainly here for parts, getting some knowledge, etc. Personally, I love cars and work on them as a hobby (performance, rebuild, restore). This is my first time digging in an aircooled fuel injected motor so it is a bit of a learning curve.

Posted by: sb914 Jun 5 2017, 07:33 PM

welcome.png the red ones are the fastest!!

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jun 12 2017, 08:46 PM

Some quick updates. Removed all the fluids and the tranny has plenty of shavings. We will see how it holds out...
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Removed all the fuel lines ready to change them soon. Tank looks pretty good sitting for 20 years, luckily the gas was flushed out before going to sleep:
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Posted by: porschetub Jun 12 2017, 09:44 PM

Not trying to be a dick but otherwise mentioned ?,those wheels need to go barf.gif barf.gif ,truly the pits ...sorry.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jun 13 2017, 02:02 PM

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 12 2017, 08:44 PM) *

Not trying to be a dick but otherwise mentioned ?,those wheels need to go barf.gif barf.gif ,truly the pits ...sorry.


Those are centerline wheels with custom porsche emblems in the middle. Guess you never heard of them lol-2.gif

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 4 2017, 01:07 PM

Quickie update. Got the fluids in and now the fuel tank needs a quick removal of some surface rust and a fresh coat of paint:. If you want to buy a cheap pump for tranny oil changes go with the new red fluid pump at China freight.

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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 4 2017, 01:22 PM

One more thing, for all you garage dwellers and DIY'ers, check out my new tool chest. The top was originally my grandpas that he passed on to me. I decided to complete it and bought the rest on Craigslist. Check out the surface condition. Don't you wish your chassis was in that good condition! w00t.gif Early 70's vintage Craftsman drooley.gif

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Posted by: maf914 Jul 4 2017, 03:35 PM

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One more thing, for all you garage dwellers and DIY'ers, check out my new tool chest. The top was originally my grandpas that he passed on to me. I decided to complete it and bought the rest on Craigslist. Check out the surface condition. Don't you wish your chassis was in that good condition! w00t.gif Early 70's vintage Craftsman drooley.gif


The tool chests are interesting. I had never seen that version of the Craftsman chests before; gray cabinets with red drawers. I inherited a large Craftsman portable tool box from my father that is similar in style; the box and top hinged cover are gray with two red drawers on the bottom. I would guess 60's vintage. Unfortunately, the box must have spent a good bit of time on a damp floor because the bottom is rusting out. sad.gif

I have a set of Craftsman tool chests on casters that began as a Christmas gift from my sister in the 90's (Thanks Sister!) and were added to with Black Friday sales. These are all in the contemporary Craftsman red and black.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Jul 4 2017, 06:04 PM

QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Jun 13 2017, 01:02 PM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 12 2017, 08:44 PM) *

Not trying to be a dick but otherwise mentioned ?,those wheels need to go barf.gif barf.gif ,truly the pits ...sorry.


Those are centerline wheels with custom porsche emblems in the middle. Guess you never heard of them lol-2.gif

Those wheels are period correct for the 80's custom touches on that car. Keep it as is and drive it!

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 6 2017, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Jul 4 2017, 05:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Jun 13 2017, 01:02 PM) *

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 12 2017, 08:44 PM) *

Not trying to be a dick but otherwise mentioned ?,those wheels need to go barf.gif barf.gif ,truly the pits ...sorry.


Those are centerline wheels with custom porsche emblems in the middle. Guess you never heard of them lol-2.gif

Those wheels are period correct for the 80's custom touches on that car. Keep it as is and drive it!


Haha thanks. Yeah I think you are right when my dad customized this car it was in the late 80's early 90's when you can get these wheels off the shelf. Love it or hate it these are hard to find. Hopefully I can get this bad boy running soon.

Semper Fi brutha

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 6 2017, 01:08 PM

If the tank is still out, change the in tank screen and fiber washers for the fittings.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 23 2017, 12:14 PM

Quick update. Fuel tank and lines are all hooked up. Polished all the hardware to give it a clean look.
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 23 2017, 12:15 PM

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Posted by: ndfrigi Jul 23 2017, 04:35 PM

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Looks like it is originally Copper Metallic color L99K.


Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 6 2017, 08:08 PM

Cleaned the orignal bra cause the mice used it as toilet paper. Looks pretty beat up so might buy another at a future date.

So we did the very first crank and discovered new fun things to solve:

1) FPR does not look like it is working.

2) Right side blinkers not working in neither front or back.

So we were chatting it in the garage and looks like an electrical issue. We will be checking the fuses and all that good stuff.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 9 2017, 05:30 PM

Tried to search the forums and Haynes and got some info. but still need some answers. I need some advice or some 1.8 l-jet owners or knowledgeable enthusiasts to look at my work before I place an order. Long story short several vacuum lines are routed wrong , there is no charcoal can, and cannot find spark plug wire order.

1) What are the negative effects of having a no charcoal can? Fuel consumption? I hear the l-jets are sensitive to hose leaks so can I plug those that are attached to the can?

2) Spark plug wire order. I want to double check if they are routed correctly.


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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 9 2017, 05:34 PM

New routing diagram:
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Posted by: ndfrigi Aug 9 2017, 10:36 PM

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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 9 2017, 11:29 PM

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Yeah that is where I got my info. from clap.gif

Anyone know about charcoal canisters? Can someone check my spark plug wire order? I think #1 and #2 are wrong.

Posted by: ndfrigi Aug 9 2017, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Aug 9 2017, 09:36 PM) *

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Yeah that is where I got my info. from clap.gif

Anyone know about charcoal canisters? Can someone check my spark plug wire order? I think #1 and #2 are wrong.


1. Charcoal canister is ok even without it. Does not affect the engine. It is just to lessen or remove fuel smell. That plastic (expansion tank) on top of your tank has a small diameter hose that connects to the charcoal canister (for 1975 it is at the engine bay). two larger rubber hose In and out of charcoal canister. In side goes go upper right of fan shroud (blows air going to charcoal canister and other side (out) goes to air filter.

2. Your engine picture with your number markings is correct. Assuming your TDC (#1) is in the right position.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 12 2017, 12:48 PM

Great news! Got the bad boy running. Changed FPR and fixed vacuum lines. Also, I found the emblems for the grill. Check them out! drooley.gif
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 12 2017, 12:49 PM

I will post a video. Google drive is acting like a 42 year old Fuel injection system blink.gif

Posted by: ndfrigi Aug 12 2017, 01:57 PM

congratulation! now time to register for Temecula Fun Day on Sept 16.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 12 2017, 02:38 PM

Video: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9cXu5pEBkyxTEtVdkgtU0huYXM

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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 12 2017, 02:39 PM

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congratulation! now time to register for Temecula Fun Day on Sept 16.


Easy there pal still have work to do wink.gif. I have it on my schedule though idea.gif

Posted by: ndfrigi Aug 12 2017, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Aug 12 2017, 12:57 PM) *

congratulation! now time to register for Temecula Fun Day on Sept 16.


Easy there pal still have work to do wink.gif. I have it on my schedule though idea.gif


Sir, even without driving ur 914 to Temecula Fun day, still you can join. Just sold my 75 1.8FI (but i have ugly 74 project though) and still going with my whole family.

And wow, looks a lot better now since the 1st pictures you shared.

Do you still have the original Heat exchanger for 75/76?

Posted by: malcolm2 Aug 12 2017, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Aug 9 2017, 10:29 PM) *

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Aug 9 2017, 09:36 PM) *

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Yeah that is where I got my info. from clap.gif

Anyone know about charcoal canisters? Can someone check my spark plug wire order? I think #1 and #2 are wrong.


1. Charcoal canister is ok even without it. Does not affect the engine. It is just to lessen or remove fuel smell. That plastic (expansion tank) on top of your tank has a small diameter hose that connects to the charcoal canister (for 1975 it is at the engine bay). two larger rubber hose In and out of charcoal canister. In side goes go upper right of fan shroud (blows air going to charcoal canister and other side (out) goes to air filter.

2. Your engine picture with your number markings is correct. Assuming your TDC (#1) is in the right position.


I also have a 75 1.8 ( now 1911cc) with Ljet FI. As things happen, I have removed parts of the FI. Never installed the charcoal filter. It is just too big. I do smell gas every now and then, but just don't care. The Decel Valve was also removed. One less place to look for a vacuum leak. Never installed the EGR valve either. Cleaned up the engine bay for sure.

Things are looking good for you. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 12 2017, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Aug 10 2017, 12:51 AM) *

QUOTE(Ed_Turbo @ Aug 9 2017, 10:29 PM) *

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Aug 9 2017, 09:36 PM) *

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Yeah that is where I got my info. from clap.gif

Anyone know about charcoal canisters? Can someone check my spark plug wire order? I think #1 and #2 are wrong.


1. Charcoal canister is ok even without it. Does not affect the engine. It is just to lessen or remove fuel smell. That plastic (expansion tank) on top of your tank has a small diameter hose that connects to the charcoal canister (for 1975 it is at the engine bay). two larger rubber hose In and out of charcoal canister. In side goes go upper right of fan shroud (blows air going to charcoal canister and other side (out) goes to air filter.

2. Your engine picture with your number markings is correct. Assuming your TDC (#1) is in the right position.


I also have a 75 1.8 ( now 1911cc) with Ljet FI. As things happen, I have removed parts of the FI. Never installed the charcoal filter. It is just too big. I do smell gas every now and then, but just don't care. The Decel Valve was also removed. One less place to look for a vacuum leak. Never installed the EGR valve either. Cleaned up the engine bay for sure.

Things are looking good for you. Keep up the good work.


Exhaust system is all stock. I am probably deleting the cat in the future.

Don't mind the gas smell. I work on my friends rides with carbs every now and then and is like car guy cologne.

Thanks for the compliments. Really fortunate this project is going smoothly without any major issues (yet). Only thing that was a PITA was the vacuum hose that goes underneath the manifold to the throttle body. Just tedious for a dumb little hose. The fun never stops!

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 27 2017, 08:05 PM

Quickie update because the heat is killing me working in the garage (even with the fan on).

Changed a bunch if stuff like window crank, pulley , and gas pedal. Waiting for several parts in the mail. Going to put that in my checklist for next weekend.

Adding the emblems and attach the grille soon:
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 27 2017, 08:09 PM

Also, before I forget we gave the car a wash and two stage wax: 1) Unltimate Compund (color & clarity restorer) and followed by a wax.

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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 27 2017, 08:13 PM

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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 27 2017, 08:15 PM

We were messing around and we took out the entire exhaust system and started playing around with it aktion035.gif drooley.gif lol-2.gif. Here is a pic of the video clip that I will post later when I have time.
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Posted by: Jamie Aug 28 2017, 08:27 AM

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We were messing around and we took out the entire exhaust system and started playing around with it aktion035.gif drooley.gif lol-2.gif. Here is a pic of the video clip that I will post later when I have time.
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Wow, that paint cleaned up very well! Keep up the good work! aktion035.gif

Posted by: 76-914 Aug 28 2017, 08:53 AM

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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Sep 2 2017, 07:25 PM

Thanks for the compliments! Still much to do. Here is the progress for now. Repainted these very unique frames. Looks decent huh? Now I need to buy some locknuts just in case...
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Sep 2 2017, 07:28 PM

Now we are in the process of cleaning all the carpet material with a good wet vacuum system. Took the seats off and found a 20+ year old taco bell sauce packet. I hope the mice ate it and gave them the worst runs in the history of runs icon8.gif
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Sep 2 2017, 07:31 PM

This is the new seat for now laugh.gif
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Here is a pic of the emblems attached:
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Other than that I dropped a K&N filter. Going to use a bypass pipe to eliminate the cat. That is about it for now.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Sep 2 2017, 08:23 PM

Here is the video of the 914 without the exhaust aktion035.gif lol-2.gif idea.gif
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9cXu5pEBkyxRnFyNDNXcHpkSlE

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Sep 23 2017, 10:50 AM

Quick update. Doing the brake system. Flushed everything out and adding ATE TYP200 (blue can). The master cylinder came in this week:
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Came into a small issue though. One of the brake lines (driver’s side) broke as I was removing it from the master cylinder. So going on a hunt for one. If anyone has an extra in good condition they can sell me message me please. Looks like I have to wait for next weekend to finish.
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Posted by: Porschef Sep 24 2017, 06:39 AM

Don't know if you changed your tranny oil yet or not, but it looks like you had planned on using a full synthetic. The overall consensus here is that you want to use regular ol' gear oil, as the synthetic is deemed too "slippery" and will degrade shifting performance.

Just me 2€

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Oct 8 2017, 09:36 PM

A quick update everyone. Have not much time to be on here or work on the 914 because I started the fall semester for the graduate program at Cal Poly and working at the same time.

Ordered SS brake lines from PMB. Prettty much got all the lines except the original one that broke. I emailed them see how we can resolve this. Plus, they assured me decals for the garage and I did not get any lol-2.gif See what happens with that, but I am sure this will work itself out.

Have a nice week everyone driving.gif

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Posted by: mb911 Oct 9 2017, 07:15 AM

Is that Murphy's law?

I need to get brake lines from them soon as well.

Posted by: ValcoOscar Oct 10 2017, 08:16 AM

Ed-

You have a full plate. Best of luck with school...I enjoy following this thread. Keep up the good work and hopefully you can get your car finished soon. BTW..you are only 15 min away so if you need to use my garage lift just contact me...glad to help.

Nice chatting with you at our Temecula 914 Fun Day!!!


Oscar

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Oct 13 2017, 10:54 PM

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Ed-

You have a full plate. Best of luck with school...I enjoy following this thread. Keep up the good work and hopefully you can get your car finished soon. BTW..you are only 15 min away so if you need to use my garage lift just contact me...glad to help.

Nice chatting with you at our Temecula 914 Fun Day!!!


Oscar


Hey Oscar, thanks! I am glad someone is enjoying this lol-2.gif. Let me know when you are around and go to G burger.

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Oct 15 2017, 05:43 PM

Quick update, Dalton @PMB sent me the last line that they forgot to ship this week. Thanks Dalton. Lines are good, not perfect, but with custom stuff not everything is 100% flush. They still owe me decals, which I kindly reminded him biggrin.gif
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Posted by: Ed_Turbo Oct 15 2017, 06:08 PM

Everything went ok until we ran into some issues with the brake system. Turns out we installed it wrong because the little nipple that goes in the cylinder did not go in.
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We thought it would be simple to install without removing the foot board but obviously that was not the case blink.gif

So we installed and removed the cylinder after 2 times. Trying to install those annoying lines on the reservoir....just a pain the ass chair.gif. I would rather get kicked in the groin by Dr. Porsche than to deal with that again.

After everything was installed and bled the lines the brake system is still not working. Feels like some vacuum issue because the fluid isnt running when pumping the brakes. Maybe the nipple needs to be adjusted to active the cylinder when you press the pedal.

So new master cylinder test was unsuccessful. Try again next weekend when I have more time.

-Ed

Posted by: ValcoOscar Oct 15 2017, 06:18 PM

Looking great Ed....almost outshines Eddy's car.

Oscar

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