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Posted by: funk Jun 8 2017, 07:41 PM
I not only like the look of this mod but adds simplicity to gas fill ups the only negative from my perspective is now gas entry is not protected?
so any one have measurements and close up pics? I am assuming that it is more than just a hole. also probably a ring is welded on hood so as to give a relief even added seal? I think Patrick motorsports has pics in their gallery?
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 8 2017, 08:23 PM
If you're a friend of Eric Shea on Facebook, he outlines a pretty detailed GT build with his car...
And it looks amazing!
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Posted by: porschetub Jun 9 2017, 12:58 AM
I not only like the look of this mod but adds simplicity to gas fill ups the only negative from my perspective is now gas entry is not protected?
so any one have measurements and close up pics? I am assuming that it is more than just a hole. also probably a ring is welded on hood so as to give a relief even added seal? I think Patrick motorsports has pics in their gallery?
How much do you have to spend ? its a skilled install and the parts are up there,if you aren't building a GT really not worth the cost or having a leaking hood if not done right.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 10 2017, 11:01 AM
I not only like the look of this mod but adds simplicity to gas fill ups the only negative from my perspective is now gas entry is not protected?
so any one have measurements and close up pics? I am assuming that it is more than just a hole. also probably a ring is welded on hood so as to give a relief even added seal? I think Patrick motorsports has pics in their gallery?
How much do you have to spend ? its a skilled install and the parts are up there,if you aren't building a GT really not worth the cost or having a leaking hood if not done right.
This is my car. It's a pretty faithful GT replica and I'm not doing the through-the-hood fueling. I can afford the parts, I just don't want a hole in my hood. I may change my mind. The GT's were pretty much all individual builds so there is a variety of configurations.
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Posted by: Mark Henry Jun 10 2017, 12:25 PM
Used to be cool to pull into a full serve and let the kid walk around the car a couple times looking for the gas flap. 
Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 10 2017, 01:15 PM
Hacker newbie.....
Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 10 2017, 01:16 PM
Faux GT
Posted by: Marek Jun 10 2017, 01:41 PM
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-RSR-Style-Front-Hood-Center-Filler-Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now 
but you will like it for sure
I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
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Posted by: mepstein Jun 10 2017, 01:58 PM
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364&st=0
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-RSR-Style-Front-Hood-Center-Filler-Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are as said just in final production of packing these
,and we will be shipping these in August for sure , so dont spend all you cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Posted by: forrestkhaag Jun 10 2017, 03:12 PM
Nice Watch Larmo......... oh,.. that's me.....
Posted by: Steve Jun 10 2017, 04:30 PM
Nice Watch Larmo......... oh,.. that's me.....
Didn't you copyright that picture?
Posted by: forrestkhaag Jun 10 2017, 05:30 PM
No. I charged Larmo a "hand"ling charge! 
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Posted by: Geezer914 Jun 10 2017, 05:53 PM
Went to a salvage yard and had them cut out the filler door section on a 99 Ford Pickup. Trimmed the sheet metal and cut a hole in the hood to match. Stitch welded the opening in the hood for a flush mount.
Posted by: thelogo Jun 10 2017, 09:53 PM
If your gonna go thru all the trouble then shouldn't you just do it
Like this , forget the hood , should come thru the fender
Ala
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Posted by: HalfMoon Jun 11 2017, 07:33 AM
Worked well for me.
47.97 at Summit
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/plt-gd-801ck/overview/
Posted by: campbellcj Jun 11 2017, 07:39 AM
I did not do it partly because I would forever be splashing and spilling fuel on the hood. Also there's gotta be some small detrimental aero impact.
They do look cool though.
Posted by: Spoke Jun 11 2017, 09:40 AM
I see the Summit Racing unit is locking. Have others made their fuel doors locking?
Posted by: McMark Jun 11 2017, 10:02 AM
RIP another original 914 hood.
Posted by: Larmo63 Jun 11 2017, 10:27 AM
My yellow car, Speedy was not a great car so drilling the hood wasn't a big deal. I will not drill the hood on my black car. The only way I'll do a through the hood gas filler is on a fiberglass replacement hood. Same goes for hood pins, or rear trunk black rubber catches.
ONLY fiberglass.
Posted by: forrestkhaag Jun 11 2017, 10:30 AM
Hoods are dirt cheap in Cali. Agreed as to fiberglasss hood and trunk being the way to drop 14.2 pounds fast.
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Posted by: McMark Jun 11 2017, 11:07 AM
For now...
Posted by: HalfMoon Jun 11 2017, 09:56 PM
RIP another original 914 hood.
Actually it's a glass hood as is most of the rest my car (Sheridan Standard Widebody)
Posted by: Coondog Jun 11 2017, 10:34 PM
RIP another original 914 hood.
Posted by: boxstr Jun 12 2017, 10:45 PM
Hood filler on Blackulla. Craig at CAMP
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Posted by: Chief Jun 13 2017, 06:24 AM
This is how I tackled the job.
I modified the tank to give me the chance to move the filler towards the center line of the bonnet more. The metal was so good to work with we just beat it into submission. I didn't want to weld anything onto such a big flat panel and warp it.
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020603_zpsttbntgzr.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020605_zpsjsq2gm8n.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020604_zpsotsacipw.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020609_zpsrvp9vm1s.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020610_zpskt5lyxxf.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020607_zpsfuttqt1g.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020616_zpsdquinazc.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020615_zpsn1vrg2pd.jpg.html
Posted by: ValcoOscar Jun 13 2017, 08:26 AM
Here's my set up...from GT Werk
http://www.gtwerk.com
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Posted by: ValcoOscar Jun 13 2017, 08:37 AM
This is how I tackled the job.
I modified the tank to give me the chance to move the filler towards the center line of the bonnet more. The metal was so good to work with we just beat it into submission. I didn't want to weld anything onto such a big flat panel and warp it.
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020603_zpsttbntgzr.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020605_zpsjsq2gm8n.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020604_zpsotsacipw.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020609_zpsrvp9vm1s.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020610_zpskt5lyxxf.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020607_zpsfuttqt1g.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020616_zpsdquinazc.jpg.html
http://s50.photobucket.com/user/Chiefyb2/media/Wheel%20Arches%20914/P1020615_zpsn1vrg2pd.jpg.html
I like the way you finished your opening CHIEF....Nice job...
Keep up the good work.
Posted by: theer Nov 11 2017, 08:46 AM
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-RSR-Style-Front-Hood-Center-Filler-Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
Posted by: Retroracer Nov 11 2017, 11:00 AM
To answer your "gas security" question, it Is possible to mount the Blau cap and filler neck "around" the original, so that the standard 914 neck is still in place - then a locking fuel cap can be used under the Blau cap.
Having done something similar on my car (fiberglass hood), the biggest pain is centering the filler neck to the newly cut hole; even a few mm out looks "off". Maybe someone else on the forum has an optimum alignment method?
- Tony
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Posted by: Steve Nov 11 2017, 01:01 PM
If you like the race car look the above looks cool. I wish someone made one like the silver 914/8
Posted by: burton73 Nov 11 2017, 02:01 PM
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
“California knows how to party”
Bob B 
Posted by: GregAmy Nov 11 2017, 02:48 PM
I like the under-hood fill. It gets tons of looks as first, people wonder why you're going under the hood then are surprised to see a trunk, and second, people wonder why you're putting gasoline in your trunk.
Except for racing, it's just "different". That's fine for me.
GA, still missing the old "flip the license plate down to fill" trick...
Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 11 2017, 02:54 PM
Mounted this using rare earth magnets....
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Posted by: jd74914 Nov 11 2017, 02:56 PM
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
Bob-your filler is so cool! It's such a novel install using the camloc fasteners.
Posted by: Craigers17 Nov 12 2017, 03:02 PM
I'm looking at this one from 9xauto.com. (no affiliation) More of an access hatch rather than the actual cap of the tank, but looks like a cool option. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to soon. 
Posted by: burton73 Nov 12 2017, 04:04 PM
That may work but you need to change out the flush-head Dzus fastener to maybe a key or something so you do not need a screwdriver each time you need gas. $59 the price is good
Bob B
Posted by: burton73 Nov 12 2017, 04:16 PM
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
Bob-your filler is so cool! It's such a novel install using the camloc fasteners.
It is not really Camloc fasteners but you push one button down the second button goes up and the door opens. There is an arm inside and pushing the second button down make it pressure lock.
The unlock is engraved open, and the loch is marked close. If I remember it right I have not touched it for 5 years.
It is not just a hinge but has a spring arm and a hinge. The PO had it up and tried to open the front hood and bent it up. E's body man fixed it up. NEW RULE Never open the hood when the gas cover is open.
Bob B
Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 12 2017, 05:48 PM
Peter Dawes did the fuel on number 41 a long time ago. The fuel door is from an airplane.
“California knows how to party”
Bob B
That is Peter DAWE.... without the s
Posted by: 914forme Nov 12 2017, 07:40 PM
Saw this at Hersey in 2016, And liked it.
Never found out who did it, would love to know.
Posted by: somd914 Nov 12 2017, 08:40 PM
Saw this at Hersey in 2016, And liked it.
Never found out who did it, would love to know.
That would be me...
The PO had it installed. Unfortunately I don't know what the unit came off of. It is well finished from the top, but a bit rough with on the back side.
I do get a lot of comments about it, surprisingly I've had many 914 guys (past and present owners) voice dislike as it breaks up a smooth hood. But it is nice nice filling up up w/o leaning under the hood.
Dayton, I grew up there.
Posted by: jd74914 Nov 13 2017, 08:34 AM
It is not really Camloc fasteners but you push one button down the second button goes up and the door opens. There is an arm inside and pushing the second button down make it pressure lock.
The unlock is engraved open, and the loch is marked close. If I remember it right I have not touched it for 5 years.
It is not just a hinge but has a spring arm and a hinge. The PO had it up and tried to open the front hood and bent it up. E's body man fixed it up. NEW RULE Never open the hood when the gas cover is open.
Bob B
Interesting. I was wondering why there were two buttons. Do you have any photos of the back side? I can envision how it works from your description, but the hardware is interesting-never seen anything quite like that.
Posted by: 914forme Nov 14 2017, 03:11 PM
Saw this at Hersey in 2016, And liked it.
Never found out who did it, would love to know.
That would be me...
The PO had it installed. Unfortunately I don't know what the unit came off of. It is well finished from the top, but a bit rough with on the back side.
I do get a lot of comments about it, surprisingly I've had many 914 guys (past and present owners) voice dislike as it breaks up a smooth hood. But it is nice nice filling up up w/o leaning under the hood.
Dayton, I grew up there.
So did I.
I liked the install, and does not break up the hood line more than a GT filler or the bolt on ones do.
I figure Each their own.
I have one of the little pop up units you see on motorcycles I am thinking about dropping on the cowl on the right side.
I also have a door from a Chevy Van that I got to doo the hood model.
And I have one of the bolt in units
And I have had GT fillers, I can do it all, and yet have done no of it.
Posted by: Coondog Nov 14 2017, 04:59 PM
Understand the look but just not for me......... 
Posted by: Rand Nov 14 2017, 05:13 PM
I'm happy with my hood being my secure gas cap cover. Pulling the hood latch isn't hard. I just don't get the need to hack a hole in your hood for a street car. It's not "cool," it's less secure, it harms the originality, yada yada. But to each his own. If you go down this road, at least do it right so it doesn't introduce water into the trunk.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Nov 14 2017, 05:28 PM
No way to do a fender door like a 911?
Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 14 2017, 05:59 PM
I'm looking at this one from 9xauto.com. (no affiliation) More of an access hatch rather than the actual cap of the tank, but looks like a cool option. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to soon.
That will look great on your motorhome.
Posted by: Rand Nov 14 2017, 06:03 PM
That will look great on your motorhome.
Maybe an old beater motorhome. Please don't do that to a 914.
Posted by: Marek Dec 5 2017, 01:27 AM
Hi Tom
Sorry I just noticed your message
We are almost ready with the kit , it will be ready before christmas .. this year :-)
Its the same cap as Chief have used ( its the kit I am making for 911 )
its just a simple plug and play kit , no welding needed !!!!
I know what you are thinking , but wait and see ... stay tune
Marek
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-RSR-Style-Front-Hood-Center-Filler-Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
Posted by: rgalla9146 Dec 5 2017, 07:39 AM
I love the look.
Collected the parts .....years ago.
Can do the work.
But things sometimes change.
The process of getting gas in a 914 is cool. It eliminates damage by careless attendants
The outside cap is too tempting to thieves or mischievous kids.
And as McMark says it saves a hood.
I'm sure Mareks parts will be beautiful. And a big time saver.
Maybe on some future project.
Posted by: theer Dec 5 2017, 09:15 AM
Thanks, Marek.
Just in time for Christmas! 
Hi Tom
Sorry I just noticed your message
We are almost ready with the kit , it will be ready before christmas .. this year :-)
Its the same cap as Chief have used ( its the kit I am making for 911 )
its just a simple plug and play kit , no welding needed !!!!
I know what you are thinking , but wait and see ... stay tune
Marek
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-RSR-Style-Front-Hood-Center-Filler-Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek, did these kits go into production?
Thanks,
Tom
Posted by: eric914 Dec 5 2017, 12:03 PM
Hi Tom
Sorry I just noticed your message
We are almost ready with the kit , it will be ready before christmas .. this year :-)
Its the same cap as Chief have used ( its the kit I am making for 911 )
its just a simple plug and play kit , no welding needed !!!!
I know what you are thinking , but wait and see ... stay tune
Marek
Marek, let me know when they are ready:)
Posted by: Rand Dec 5 2017, 12:19 PM
Simply a curious question: Why?
For real, after you think it through? Are you building a GT replica? I guess you answered that in your first post. But if that's all, then the real "why" still stands. It's just not practical, introduces a LOT of problems, and isn't cool in any way unless it's a GT clone that needs a fast fill on the track. But my $.01 is just that. Unless you have a real reason, it's a hood hack that will bite you seriously hard later.
Having said that, do to your car what makes you happy. I've done a ton of mods to previous cars that I wouldn't do again to the current/next ones. We all go through the phases. But today, 914s need to be taken more seriously before modding because of their appreciating value.
Posted by: theer Dec 5 2017, 12:33 PM
Rand,
In my case it's intended for a track, only car. We do endurance races, so ease of re-filling with jugs is important. Water infiltration and theft of fuel cap are not major concerns.
Vroom-vroom,
Tom
Posted by: Rand Dec 5 2017, 12:41 PM
Rand,
In my case it's intended for a track, only car. We do endurance races, so ease of re-filling with jugs is important. Water infiltration and theft of fuel cap are not major concerns.
Vroom-vroom,
Tom
In that case, just hole drill into a fiberglass or carbon lid because you won't want to use the steel or worry about finish/waterproofing anyway! (I missed the importance of the question?)
Full respect. Just wanted to provoke thought.
I will look forward to following your races if you share here.
EDIT: And Argh. Sorry, Tom, my reply was to the OP username "funk" which is a completely different scemario.
Posted by: mb911 Dec 5 2017, 04:22 PM
I will just give this little bit of thought to consider.. I buy, build cars for myself.. Thats what its all about.. For ourselves.. I think it looks neat. On the fence for myself but I personally don't care what others do to their cars. Its their car to do what they like with it..
Posted by: infraredcalvin Dec 5 2017, 05:46 PM
I will just give this little bit of thought to consider.. I buy, build cars for myself.. Thats what its all about.. For ourselves.. I think it looks neat. On the fence for myself but I personally don't care what others do to their cars. Its their car to do what they like with it..
IMO mod away!!!
Posted by: ConeDodger Dec 5 2017, 06:05 PM
It’s on the list and I will definitely take a look at what Marek has to offer...
Posted by: mepstein Dec 5 2017, 06:49 PM
I like the look but I probably won’t do it. Putting gas in the 911’s with a centerfill, at the shop, is a drag.
Posted by: 23e Heure Jan 29 2018, 07:05 AM
Hi guys
As I wrote in my for sale tread of the Hood pin kit
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=308364
We are working ( in final production ) on a "plug and play kit" with no welding requiered
I did the kit , most dealers sell like SMC, restoration design etc a good 5 years ago
http://www.sierramadrecollection.com/911-RSR-Style-Front-Hood-Center-Filler-Kit-p25309.html
The kit will have the same Blau 110 mm cap and 5 hole fin
it will have the "dog bowl" overfill etc in basic all you need will be in the kit
To give you a idea how it works , you simply just screw it on ,
the kneck will have the correct angle to the hood and will line up at the same height
I cant show you all the secrets right now
but you will like it for sure I will soon make a for sale tread ,we are just in final production packing these
,and we will be shipping these in august for sure , so dont spend all your cash on your girlfriend in the hollydays :-) priced ca at 350 EURO
Marek
Marek: Is your through the bonnet filler kit ready now?
Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 29 2018, 07:27 AM
Marek: Is your through the bonnet filler kit ready now?
+1
I have a race car project here that was supposed to get one of these.
Posted by: theer Apr 13 2018, 12:28 PM
Hi Marek,
any progress on this?
Thanks, Tom
Posted by: mb911 Apr 13 2018, 02:46 PM
There is another member here on the forum that will be making kits very shortly. I will also be selling them on my site as well. They will be very cost effective..
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