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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Metal Shaping/Dent Repair Workshop in the Bay Area

Posted by: John Kelly May 13 2005, 08:51 AM

I'm returning Felix's 914 to him in San Jose...seems like a good time to do a workshop...

Tentatively ...I will be putting on a metal shaping and dent repair workshop in San Jose/Bay area on sunday the 12th of June. The plan is to start at 9 am and go for 6-8 hours. This will be a loosely organized event.

No shop has been selected for this yet. I’m interested in any shops or personal garages that someone might have available in the area. We will be making some noise and will need plenty of parking space. This is short notice, so even a small shop might be adequate. I would like to have about 10-20 people attend.

Demonstration of stretching, shrinking, and smoothing sheet metal using simple hand tools.

Mallet and shotbag for stretching, hammers and dollies for smoothing, tuck formers for shrinking with a steel hammer.

Discussion on making a motorcycle fender, fender flares, making curved flanges, dent repair and using a shrinking disc for metal finishing.....I will add to this as I think of things that might be of interest.

This will be for novice to intermediate skill levels. I’m still in the planning stages...any feedback appreciated. I may have a video demonstration as well.....not sure yet.

If someone in the area has an english wheel they can bring that would be great. Eye and ear protection required! Please contact me as soon as you can to sign up. Payment in advance is required. First come, first served. I accept paypal or your check. The fee is $75. It is refundable if the workshop does not take place. $50 of the fee is refundable to folks who are unable to attend after paying.

Attend at your own risk! Neither myself nor the shop owner will be liable for your safety.

Thanks, John www.ghiaspecialties.com ghiafab@msn.com

Posted by: grantsfo May 13 2005, 08:58 AM

I'll donate my car if you need one to hammer on! Big dent in the side panel and I could use some wider fenders.

Posted by: anthony May 13 2005, 09:00 AM

I'm in! Sounds like a great opportunity.

Posted by: jonwatts May 13 2005, 09:07 AM

I'm there, just let us know when you need funds by.

very cool.

Posted by: Mueller May 13 2005, 10:34 AM

I'm in

Posted by: kenschipper May 13 2005, 11:12 AM

I'll be by.

Ken Schipper

Posted by: John Kelly May 13 2005, 11:26 AM

That's great, guys! Just send me payment through paypal: ghiafab@msn.com Please include your full name and 914club user name so I don't get confused (it's happened before). Or, to send a check, email me for my address. Your email or paypal payment is your confirmation for a spot.

Tony Colicchio of TC Design (www.tcdesignfab.com) has generously made his shop available for up to thirty people. I prefer a smaller group, but no one will be turned away unless it goes above thirty.

Thanks, John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: lapuwali May 13 2005, 12:18 PM

I'll be there, ear defenders in hand...

Posted by: Borderline May 13 2005, 03:01 PM

Count me in! Milpitas is jsut down the street. cool. I will try my luck with paypal...but may have to send you a check.

Posted by: neo914-6 May 13 2005, 03:44 PM

Don't miss this one, it's a one-time appearance in the Bay Area. Guys this is a SMOKING deal! John must have made the "frugal 914 owner" adjustment...
For comparison, http://www.covell.biz/ charges $190/day and he's NOT a 914 enthusiast.

Posted by: Carrera916 May 13 2005, 03:46 PM

Wow! That's great!

Hey, I might be able to ask the school that I work for to allow me have a "class" at my auto body shop in Fremont area.

Would that be good? I mean I don't want to waste my time trying to secure a shop if someone would prefer another place....

It's a four bay shop, with auto body tools...yes, got punch bag and some tools you can use....just an idea...let me know this weekend and I will talk to my supervisor about this on Monday...

Man, I can't hardly wait....

Posted by: Carrera916 May 13 2005, 03:48 PM

Oh....

got a donated 914 here with four goooood corners....

of course, I'd like to do mine, too....

others can do theirs.....

boy, that's gonna be some noises....far louder than the Stomps!

Posted by: skline May 13 2005, 03:50 PM

Hey John, any chance you will be down in the So Cal area?? You can use my garage and I am sure you will get a lot of people to come not only to meet you, but to learn how you do what you do. We are only about 6 hours or so farther south.

Posted by: neo914-6 May 13 2005, 03:57 PM

QUOTE (skline @ May 13 2005, 01:50 PM)
Hey John, any chance you will be down in the So Cal area?? You can use my garage and I am sure you will get a lot of people to come not only to meet you, but to learn how you do what you do. We are only about 6 hours or so farther south.

He only likes Nor Cal.

Fly him down for a workshop. Get him on the workshop circuit!

Posted by: rjkavanagh May 13 2005, 04:01 PM

I'd love to join. Paypal on the way.
-Rob

Posted by: John Kelly May 13 2005, 04:23 PM

Sorry Scott, I don't think I will have the extra time to do another one. Thanks for asking though! Might do it again next year if there is enough interest.

Jerry, I answered your PM. Good to know we have a backup shop just in case.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: jonwatts May 14 2005, 01:50 AM

My nephew's baptism is that weekend, but that didn't stop me from signing up
I'm sure they can get by without me for 8 hours.

Now that my spot is reserved we can give this sucker a

Posted by: McMark May 14 2005, 01:57 AM

It's got to be the one weekend I'm booked. I'm so bummed I have to miss this.

Posted by: redshift May 14 2005, 03:56 AM

QUOTE (Neo914 @ May 13 2005, 05:44 PM)

For comparison, http://www.covell.biz/ charges $190/day and he's NOT a 914 enthusiast.

Wow!~ Yeah, but he's GOOD!

Just screwing with you, Jedi metal man.

M

Posted by: redshift May 14 2005, 03:57 AM

QUOTE (Neo914 @ May 13 2005, 05:57 PM)
Get him on the workshop circuit!

Hey, that is a great idea... John, you need to be 'as seen on tv'..

M

Posted by: John Kelly May 14 2005, 08:15 AM

Hi Mark,

I'm sorry it did not work out for your schedule. If you are ever in Seattle, look me up.

M, Ron Covell is not just good , he's excellent. He has given me some good advice, and helped promote my shrinking disc, and video. Super talented nice guy. Someday maybe I'll make the big bucks...not likely though...fecking 914, and VW crowd...cheap...er, I mean frugal like me.

To be on TV, don't you have to treat someone like garbage, have phony deadlines, and have a huge crew? I don't think I can do that. Got no tattos either...shit, I'll never make it....I don't even have a plasma cutter. I won't be telling my wife about the jedi metal man comment...I'd never hear the end of it (insert smily emoticon)

Thanks, John www.ghiaspecialties.om

Posted by: Bleyseng May 14 2005, 09:15 AM

here's a shot of what you are in for with John!

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Posted by: John Kelly May 16 2005, 09:19 AM

Chris was working hard!

Anyone who has not emailed me to say a check is on the way, or used paypal already, please do so. We are filling up.

Thanks, John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: Mueller May 16 2005, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (Neo914 @ May 13 2005, 02:44 PM)
Don't miss this one, it's a one-time appearance in the Bay Area. Guys this is a SMOKING deal! John must have made the "frugal 914 owner" adjustment...
For comparison, http://www.covell.biz/ charges $190/day and he's NOT a 914 enthusiast.

The "Tinman", AKA Kent White charges $295 per day (4 days for the hardcore fab'r)

just sent you my payment for the class....

Posted by: neo914-6 May 17 2005, 10:12 PM

Paypal sent...

John,
How about planning a dinner afterwards to let people not doing the workshop meet with you? Participants will be all tired of listening to you by then. We could order pizza if Tony is up for it. I work near his shop and haven't even visited it yet...

Posted by: Brad Roberts May 18 2005, 12:02 AM

Doh!!

I wont make this one. I can however offer up Yeaman Autobody in Palo Alto if the other spaces fall through for any reason. Scott the owner has done a few "race car" fiberglass repair seminars in the past and obviously has a body shop with everything you could want/need.

B

Posted by: ThinAir914 May 18 2005, 12:18 AM

QUOTE (John Kelly @ May 13 2005, 03:23 PM)
Might do it again next year if there is enough interest.

I got John's DVD on fender flares and after seeing the miracles that he does, I really wish I could make it over for this to see it in person. If you ever do one again I'd like to know because it would sure be worth the plane fare to participate.

Posted by: John Kelly May 18 2005, 07:25 AM

Hi Felix,

I will be burned out from the travel, work, and loading of stuff...but if someone wants to organize a dinner, I can always eat!

Brad,

It is great to have a backup shop just in case something comes up. I appreciate it. If you can make it even for a short while, no charge to you.

Ernie,

Thanks, we'll swing by and pick you up...if you dont mind being strapped in Felix's car inside the stepvan without air-conditioning...never mind. I appreciate the kind words!

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: neo914-6 May 20 2005, 12:17 PM

John,

Paypal will be sent for Andrew, another protege.

Unfortunately he won't be able to make it Sat. After your workshop we should know what to do with his fenders...

Posted by: sj914 May 26 2005, 12:38 AM

Ya got room for one more(me)?

Posted by: John Kelly May 26 2005, 09:54 AM

Hi Remil,

There is still room. You can paypal or send a check. Just let me know: ghiafab@msn.com

It looks like we will have an English Wheel for the workshop...I'm throwing one together right now.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: sj914 May 26 2005, 10:05 AM

John,
Thanks. Paypal sent

Posted by: John Kelly May 26 2005, 04:08 PM

Here is the English Wheel I built to bring to the workshop....

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

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Posted by: Mueller May 26 2005, 04:15 PM

nice...will you be selling it to make your load lighter going home??

how about a raffle???

Posted by: jonwatts May 26 2005, 05:20 PM

Or how about just a parts list?

I know this topic has come up on the metalshapers forum but I haven't been following that for a while now.

I'm getting so excited about this workshop I can't wait

Posted by: MecGen May 26 2005, 05:49 PM

Hi Guys
Take it from a guy thats in the trade...go.
This is a good oppertunity to watch an experienced hand.
The fact thet you can make it a gettogetther, even better.
I often pay 500$ to watch a guy read a book...
Gonna go to the East Coast ?
Later
Joe

Posted by: John Kelly May 27 2005, 05:30 AM

Nice try Mike! I'm hoping to do more workshops in the future though, and will need this. You'll get to play with it.

Jon, Lots of scrap, the worm gear actuator is from Boeing surplus the upper wheel is from Kerry at www.wheelingmachines.com the lower anvil is from my other e-wheel...got that from www.metalcrafttools.com

Thanks, John www.ghiapecialties.com

Posted by: neo914-6 May 27 2005, 01:46 PM

Unofficial Headcount:
1. Grant
2. Anthony S
3. Jon W
4. Mike M
5. Ken S
6. James M
7. "Borderline"?
8. Jerry M
9. Felix P
10. Andrew D
11. Rob
12. Remil N

Posted by: Mueller May 27 2005, 01:49 PM

Anything we should know about before hand or bring???

I take it no open toe shoes, what about eye protection??

Posted by: jonwatts May 27 2005, 02:27 PM

Eye protection was listed in an earlier part of the thread. You probably didn't see it because you don't wear eye protection.

Ear protection was also mentioned, SO MAKE SURE YOU BRING EAR PROTECTION, (sorry to yell).

I'll bring my 7 pc Harbor Freight body panel tool kit so John can tell me why it sucks.

Posted by: neo914-6 May 27 2005, 03:03 PM

QUOTE (jonwatts @ May 27 2005, 12:27 PM)

I'll bring my 7 pc Harbor Freight body panel tool kit so John can tell me why it sucks.

details on the HF tools?

Posted by: Otmar May 27 2005, 06:34 PM

Paypal sent!
Looking forward to it.

Posted by: neo914-6 May 27 2005, 06:36 PM

John,

We gonna get fancy certificates?

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 3 2005, 08:01 PM

for Kevin and others...

Posted by: jonwatts Jun 3 2005, 10:24 PM

Oops, just saw the bump.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=31277

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 8 2005, 08:11 PM

There is still room, I think...

Posted by: John Kelly Jun 8 2005, 08:25 PM

Yes, we are sitting at 15 or 16 people. We can handle a few more...

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: dan10101 Jun 8 2005, 09:57 PM

John,
I'm in. I can't let Andrew have all the fun.

My body could never do what he does, but I know I could learn something from this.

Dan

Posted by: John Kelly Jun 9 2005, 03:46 AM

Great to have you aboard Dan! We're just leaving now so we can take a leisurly pace. The gearing of the stepvan beast is pretty low.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 11 2005, 01:49 PM

Directions to 1747 Houret Ct, Milpitas, CA 95035-6823 :

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Posted by: jonwatts Jun 11 2005, 03:15 PM

What time are we starting? 8? 9?

Looking forward to it!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 11 2005, 03:34 PM

9:00 but for us, 9:14