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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 27 2017, 10:40 AM

Hi Everyone bye1.gif - Thanks for checking in on my Six. If you caught my other thread, Cairo's Six, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=188776 you may have noticed my Six has been at ScottyB's shop in VA for a while and Scotty did a lot of work. sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif smash.gif

I am happy to report I picked up my car on the 22nd and it is now in Torrance, CA in the capable hands of Kent Simmons (914350). If you saw Andy's (Socalandy) and Jim's (banananose914) Six build threads, you are already familiar with Kent's work. pray.gif

Kent accepted the challenge of finishing all of the metal work, body work and then painting my car. Kent will be assessing the condition of the car idea.gif as received and getting to work. It is important at this point he knows what he is dealing with and everything is rock solid before the next evolution begins.

So stay tuned as my Six gathers speed. popcorn[1].gif piratenanner.gif

So, for those that don't know, I am the guy in the gray T-shirt.
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Posted by: billh1963 Jul 27 2017, 10:57 AM

Looking forward to seeing the pictures and progress on your car's next step in the restoration (and completion!) process. driving.gif

Posted by: Tom_T Jul 27 2017, 11:06 AM

Glad you're getting it sorted with Kent, & hopefully you won't have too long of a wait from now. I've seen both Jim's & Andy's sixes, & I think you'll be more than satisfied with his work & attention to detail, as well as the timeliness of his work.

Besides, at least with it here on the Left Coast, you can more easily drive down & visit your baby from time to time! biggrin.gif

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 27 2017, 11:35 AM

Hey guys - Yeah, I have to admit, having my Six here in CA will be great. It is a easy 1 hour flight down to LA for visitation. I know I have to go down to pick up a bunch of stuff we will not be putting back on my car, the original Fuchs, heat exchangers, muffler, doors, engine lid, the 3.2 heat exchangers and muffler, etc. I will bring all of those home to get them out of the way. Yeah, this should be exciting. beerchug.gif

OK, it took a serious effort but Scotty, my brother and I got my Six into the back of the 26' truck.

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Posted by: mb911 Jul 27 2017, 11:59 AM

I am happy to hear its moving forward. I can't wait for updates

Posted by: jor Jul 27 2017, 04:30 PM

agree.gif I'm looking forward to seeing the progress now. I've seen SoCalAndy's car and -- wow -- that's a stunner. I'm sure yours will be equally nice. But in its original gold, right? Please?

Posted by: banananose914 Jul 27 2017, 05:30 PM

Wow. That's quite a trek to Virginia to pick up an unfinished project. Were you able to get all your stuff back? I hope things go better for you with Kent. From personal experience I believe they will. Good luck!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 27 2017, 06:13 PM

Hey Jim - Yeah, about 2,400 miles from Scotty's to Kent's. I got almost everything, missing a dip stick, some cad-plated parts and maybe a couple other things. Scotty will be shipping that stuff once I get a chance to do a full inventory and get him a list. The trip was uneventful (fortunately) and pretty much nothing happened to the car or the parts during transport. Trying to catch up after being gone for 5 days. Cheers- Michael

Here is the dolly Kent made out of some spare 2x4's and casters he had in his storage space in about 30 minutes to move my car around until it goes on the rotisserie.

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Posted by: Michael N Jul 27 2017, 06:45 PM

Great to hear!!!!! driving.gif

Posted by: porschetub Jul 27 2017, 08:46 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Jul 28 2017, 05:35 AM) *

Hey guys - Yeah, I have to admit, having my Six here in CA will be great. It is a easy 1 hour flight down to LA for visitation. I know I have to go down to pick up a bunch of stuff we will not be putting back on my car, the original Fuchs, heat exchangers, mufflers, doors, engine lid, the 3.2 heat exchangers and muffler, etc. I will bring all of those home to get them out of the way. Yeah, this should be exciting. beerchug.gif


Very pleased for you,been missing updates now we will see some...hope the split was friendly and not judging ok.
Michael remember seeing your car on Pelican years ago and really liked it,it will be better than new when finished...just can't wait to see the transformation as I'am a real fan of six conversion and original car (6) rebuilds it takes nuts to do both afterall beerchug.gif .
Good luck mate.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 27 2017, 09:31 PM

Michael N- Thanks. I am very excited to see it making progress again.

Porschetub - Yeah, there were no problems. These projects are definitely not for the weak of heart. Like anything else in life, you experience ups and downs and it teaches you to roll with the punches. I am not one to look backwards, serves no real purpose. I prefer to keep my eye on the ball and move forward. I wish Scotty nothing but the best.

OK, here it is coming out of the truck right before we lift it and set it on the new dolly. Kent had a couple friends from the neighboring shops come lend a hand and it was an easy lift for all- thank goodness.

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Posted by: Mike Bellis Jul 27 2017, 10:37 PM

Now finally you can paint it gold! piratenanner.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 28 2017, 09:12 AM

Let's hope Kent can get it into paint soon so you can build and drive the car before you die.

You are doing Adriatic Blue, right?

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 28 2017, 09:24 AM

That is one of my favorite colors.....
So, here is how this works- my wife let me indulge this dream of mine and the price for that, (among many other things she got) is she got to pick the color. Amazingly, we were both in accord on the color choice.

I suspect the cat will be out of the bag pretty soon as Kent does not appear to be one to let things sit around. Kent was excited by our color choice.

Kent and me pushing the car into his shop.

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Posted by: 76-914 Jul 28 2017, 11:29 AM

So your 914 does exist. It's been at Scottys since I joined here. I thought it might be an aberration. Glad to see your "back on track" and more importantly that you took the "high road". beerchug.gif

Posted by: banananose914 Jul 28 2017, 12:05 PM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Jul 28 2017, 08:12 AM) *

Let's hope Kent can get it into paint soon so you can build and drive the car before you die.

You are doing Adriatic Blue, right?


Harsh, but true.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 28 2017, 12:51 PM

OK - Well here it is sitting in Kent's shop. I look forward to posting new photos as they arrive. I will try to load them smaller to see if I am able to add several per post to make it easier to view. blink.gif




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Posted by: peteyd Jul 28 2017, 01:12 PM

What is Kent's shops name?

Posted by: SixerJ Jul 28 2017, 01:13 PM

Great to hear it's moving forward, Kent doesn't seem to hang about beerchug.gif

Keep those pictures coming

Posted by: cal914 Jul 28 2017, 01:45 PM

You must be so pleased,ive got another month and my GT should be here in the UK

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 28 2017, 04:57 PM

peteyd - Kent's shop is called Auto Art Customs in Torrance, CA.

Posted by: peteyd Jul 28 2017, 07:23 PM

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peteyd - Kent's shop is called Auto Art Customs in Torrance, CA.


Thanks,

Pete

Posted by: banananose914 Jul 28 2017, 08:49 PM

Cool. Is Kent going to be able to build from the work already done, or does he have to go back over existing work? I hope not. That car needs to be on the road as soon as possible. Go Kent!

Posted by: burton73 Jul 28 2017, 09:36 PM

Hi Michael,

I have been following your build for a long time. As I have been working on my 6 #41 since I bought it in Jan of 2007. And I have been active on this board from 2007 till now with a couple of years where I had other things going on in my life and did not spend that much time on line.

As you know these complete restorations can take a very long time, as huge projects shall I say they ebb and flow?
My original color was cannery yellow and I battled whether to paint it my favorite metallic blue or the factory Cannery that it came down the line as. I have friends that think my six is not real in Utah at PMB Performance.

In the end I am not sure I did the right thing not going with my very favorite color.
You will go with what gives you the most joy. Yes everyone is dogging you with the color. I think the factory gold was a bit dark but rare.

I try to figure what will be the easiest to get out of when I sell it. Always have with cars.


ScottyB did a shit load of work on your body restoring it. His work looks great to this point. Very detailed. Look forward to seeing how it finishes up.

Bob B

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 28 2017, 09:41 PM

That's a great question Jim. I told Kent I fully understand, and quite frankly, expect, him to go over my whole car with a fine-toothed comb. He told me he needs to make absolutely sure all of the previous work was done correctly so we have a solid base to work from. It is my hope, and quite frankly my expectation, that all of the previous work was done correctly and to the level we all knew this car was being built to from the beginning.

The truth will come out, hopefully all good. And, just as I asked Scotty to do, I have asked Kent to photo-document all he finds and does as my car moves forward for paint. I have not and will not hide any of the ugliness, should it exist. Conversely, if this car gets a "gold" star (see what I did there?) from Kent and he can move right into finishing the metal work, body work and then paint, great. I will be a happy dude.

Hey Bob B. - Yes, Scotty did do a lot of work on my car. My position has always been to find the best guy and pay to have it done correctly the first time so you don't have to pay to have it done again. Scotty told me my car was 8-10 hours away from all metal work being completed, then minor body work for panel fitment and finally, color. (I am correcting that statement - Scotty told me 1-2 weeks away from metal work being completed - my mistake)

The last thing I want is to go through all of this to have my car finished and then two years down the road I end up with rust bubbles lifting the paint due to a failure to correctly repair, preserve and prepare my car for paint. So stay tuned, we will experience this together.

Cheers everyone beerchug.gif

Posted by: Socalandy Jul 28 2017, 10:05 PM

I got my first peek last night and we have our work cut out for us as with any resto!!! Looking forward to this one and getting you that gold star Michael first.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 28 2017, 10:25 PM

Those were TWO big hints right there that the car is NOT going to be painted gold.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 29 2017, 07:01 AM

I received some photos taken by Andy when he visited my car (thank you very much). These are closer, focused images, of the work. As Andy said, this is going to be a lot more work than I had hoped for. I think I need a beer3.gif

On the bright side, my car is in California now.

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Posted by: sixaddict Jul 29 2017, 07:18 AM

Does this mean there is room for me now ? dry.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 29 2017, 07:44 AM

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Posted by: mb911 Jul 29 2017, 07:53 AM

Oh no.. That's not what I was hoping to see..

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 29 2017, 08:27 AM

Well, it is what it is. Kent will be the judge of the quality of the work.

Posted by: mepstein Jul 29 2017, 10:10 AM

Michael - I'm glad your moving forward. beerchug.gif

Posted by: burton73 Jul 29 2017, 10:48 AM

The light is showing off everything. You have to decide just how much you want to spend to primo out your car. If you want a show car body on it could cost you a lot of money. At least you are going with a light color that will hide some of the problems.

My 6 had what I think was a superb body with basically no rust and it still cost $20,000 to get to a show quality paint job from a point after new floors where welded in.

Bob B

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Posted by: cal914 Jul 29 2017, 01:50 PM

QUOTE(burton73 @ Jul 29 2017, 08:48 AM) *

The light is showing off everything. You have to decide just how much you want to spend to primo out your car. If you want a show car body on it could cost you a lot of money. At least you are going with a light color that will hide some of the problems.

My 6 had what I think was a superb body with basically no rust and it still cost $20,000 to get to a show quality paint job from a point after new floors where welded in.

Bob B

You can see how bad it is with the lights off,good luck Michael hopefully this is as bad as it gets with the car you deserve better

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 29 2017, 02:23 PM

Thanks Cal - I appreciate that. I am hoping this is the worst of it.

Posted by: banananose914 Jul 29 2017, 02:34 PM

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Does this mean there is room for me now ? dry.gif

At Scott's yes. At Kent's no. He's going to be very busy.

Posted by: banananose914 Jul 29 2017, 02:38 PM

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Cool. Is Kent going to be able to build from the work already done, or does he have to go back over existing work? I hope not. That car needs to be on the road as soon as possible. Go Kent!

Hey Mike. I just saw your car at the shop. It appears he's going to have to go back. Waaaaay back.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 29 2017, 04:55 PM

That is not good.... makes me sick to my stomach icon8.gif , actually.

Man, this is going to be lots of anxiety until Kent identifies and addresses all of the problems. I had hoped those days were in the rear view mirror after all of the work I had done.

Posted by: Edward Blume Jul 29 2017, 05:38 PM

It's inspiring to see you push forward. I'm looking forward to seeing this done!

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 29 2017, 10:00 PM

At least we are here to talk you off of the ledge.

Posted by: scotty b Jul 30 2017, 05:16 PM

Wow...... so let me step in to address a couple things here

Michael. I NEVER told you there were only 8-10 hours of metal work left. What I told you was that you had a credit on the books and I guessed ( I don't keep my Quickbooks data in my head ) that it was 8-10 hours of work I owed you and I needed to check on that. What I recall telling you as far as the metal work is that there was a week or two left on the metal work. The repairs to your drivers door alone that need to be done are close to that 8-10 hour mark, not to mention the other work it still needs.

Per the front end mess----- You and I had a very frank phone call over a year ago about this very situation. It was to stay between you and I, but now that these pics are being posted with no explanation I need to refresh your memory and let the cat out of the bag......... As I told you in that phone call, I had an employee that I let work on your car while I was trying to deal with my personal issues. IIRC I had the front end and rear cut off, I believe I had the trunk fitted and asked him if he could finish fitting, and weld it all together. He assured me he could. Once he was done and I looked it over, I realized that I had made a major mistake having him work on it. I told you ALL of this on the phone, I told you I was going to have to re-do what he did as soon as I was back on my feet, and that is where that was left. I had been spending time ( as little as it was ) when I had a few hours trying to iron out his mess. For this I have explained and apologized to you repeatedly. I COMPLETELY understand where you were with the project and wanting it done, but I can assure you had I finished it, it would NOT have been finalized in that condition.

Per the mess on the roll bar------ THAT was on the car when I first stripped it. It was an old repair that had not been dealt with and I am fairly certain I even posted pics of that very spot in the initial thread along with some of the other messes I uncovered. This car was taken out of my shop in partial condition on very short notice so no, I didn't finish things I had started on and am quite disheartened to find out from other friends and customers this morning that I was being thrown under the bus. There was, and is a lot left to be done. I in no way indicated I was done with any single aspect of this job. There are cuts left to be welded, welds left to be finished, hammer and dollying left to be done, panels need to be fitted etc.


Posted by: JmuRiz Jul 30 2017, 07:31 PM

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I don't mean to thread jack, but glad you chimed in, now I feel like crap for not doing a build thread on my car and showing the excellent work you did on my car. I need to get off my duff and upload some info/timeline/pictures in a new thread.

Not many car shops I trust (that I've used) other than Scotty, WillsWerks, and Tim Berrardelli Racing ...aside from all the amazing suppliers here 914Rubber, Mb911, Rich Johnson, & various others I'll thank in my future thread)

Posted by: banananose914 Jul 30 2017, 09:12 PM

Helllooooo Scott! I don't harbor any hate toward you. I don't know you and you don't know me. I have seen your work though and although I don't necessarily have a dog in the race, per se, if someone says they're going to do something to a particular degree, they should do it. I know that in my line of work, that if something doesen't go right, or as I had planned, I'm expected to own up to my shortcomings. I don't have the luxury of putting the blame off to an employee or some outside ailment or force. It's your shop though. Your employees are an extension of your shop and vice versa.
I think you have to agree that five years there is a little too long. With or without an ailment, life challenge or a sub par employee(s). I understand things happen. But you have a business to run. Do it like it appears you once knew how, and move on.
I do hope things get better for you. If you ever make a wrong turn and end up in California, call me. I'll buy you a beer or ten. I mean that sincerely. We both have the same interest, that being 914's. I won't be posting any derogatory posts about you or Cairo's car any longer. I do look forward to any progress on the car. Jim.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 30 2017, 09:15 PM

Hi Scotty - This "Part 2" was not intended as a "throw you under the bus thread". I explained to you I would be closing the old thread and starting a new thread documenting the remainder of the build.

You are right about the 8-10 hours. That was what you said you still owed me to balance the time sheet. That was my mistake. I also believe you said you had a week or two of metal work left before the car was ready for final body work, blocking and primer which was to have been done by the end of May (2017), so you could then paint it in July. I accept responsibility for those omissions.

You are also right about telling me about the employee who did less that proper work on the front end. I recall you told me you had to take it all apart to correct it. I then remember seeing photos of the front of the car with no fenders on it. I guess, absent additional information from you when I picked the car up, I assumed since the finders were on you had corrected that work.

You and I did speak, as you mentioned, about the fact someone other than you worked on my car- you told me from day one you would be the only one working on my car as you knew the level of work I was expecting and to guarantee my car was done correctly you would be the only one touching my car. Then your employee worked on it. To your credit, you did own up to all of that and I appreciated that then and still do now. You did apologize many times for that as well.

I have just posted photos of the car as it sits. I let the pictures pretty much do the talking. I have, other than expressing disappointment over the appearance of the work done, really not commented, other than to say that whatever needs to be corrected will be corrected and I am moving forward.

I will continue to post pictures as the car moves along. That has been the purpose of my entire build thread. To educate others about what happens when you take an old Porsche and decide to restore it. I see to many projects get started and die on the rotisserie when people realize they have fallen into the deep end of the pool because they never realized so much work and attention to detail is necessary on these builds.

I don't have time for negativity in my life so I choose not to go there. I can not, however, moderate the comments of others.

I believe I gave you 2 weeks notice I was coming to get my Six and all of the parts- I thought that was plenty of time to get ready. I apologize if that put you in a bind.

You specifically called out Jim and Mark. All I can tell you is Jim, aside from being one of the nicest and most gracious guys I have ever met, owns 2 sixes. I have seen both of Jim's cars and his Tangerine Six is 99% finished and completely done to concours standards. His other Six, his "driver", is in better condition than most Sixes on the road today. Jim's Tangerine Six is the bench mark for all to aspire to and the standard I hope and pray my car reaches.

Jim has been to Kent's shop and seen my car in person. I believe he is commenting based upon his personal knowledge and experience after seeing Kent do the metal, body and finish work on his Six. Additionally, he has of course followed my thread from day one to see the photos of the work done. Jim has offered, with no personal motivation of which I am aware, other than to help out another Six owner, to help me finish my car in any way he can. I am absolutely blown away by his generosity, sincerity and integrity. It is people like him who make this Site and 914 ownership a pleasure.

Mark is just another terrific guy who has helped me out on my build several times. No motive other than to help a fellow 914 owner out. I do not know anything about his build other than seeing his car when I was at your shop about 2 years ago and then it leaving your shop unfinished maybe a year ago or so. Mark will comment if he feels it appropriate, but I don't have a horse in that race.

We parted as friends and I hope to remain that way.

Posted by: Blue6 Jul 30 2017, 11:27 PM

Cairo,
None of us know what your contract with Scotty was, or how much money was paid. Seeing the pics of the car, if you paid $1,000, you did all right. If you paid him $10,000, you didn't do so good.
Keeping it positive from here on out, I was at Jim's Sunday assembly party today. Watching the re-assembly, fitting and adjustment of parts was amazing. Your car is in very capable hands. These guys are experts. You will be all smiles from here on.... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 31 2017, 06:00 AM

Thanks. That is my goal. beerchug.gif

Posted by: BENBRO02 Jul 31 2017, 09:24 AM

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Hi Everyone bye1.gif - Thanks for checking in on my Six. If you caught my other thread, Cairo's Six, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=188776 you may have noticed my Six has been at ScottyB's shop in VA for a while and Scotty did a lot of work. sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif smash.gif

I am happy to report I picked up my car on the 22nd and it is now in Torrance, CA in the capable hands of Kent Simmons (914350). If you saw Andy's (Socalandy) and Jim's (banananose914) Six build threads, you are already familiar with Kent's work. pray.gif

Kent accepted the challenge of finishing all of the metal work, body work and then painting my car. Kent will be assessing the condition of the car idea.gif as received and getting to work. It is important at this point he knows what he is dealing with and everything is rock solid before the next evolution begins.

So stay tuned as my Six gathers speed. popcorn[1].gif piratenanner.gif

So, for those that don't know, I am the guy in the gray T-shirt.


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I live in Virginia and see that your car was "at ScottyB's" in VA. What is the shop name and his last name? Have fun with the six!

Posted by: scotty b Jul 31 2017, 09:35 AM

Michael, I want to thank you for helping to clear things up. We parted ways on Saturday as friends and as far as I am concerned still are. My commitment to making sure the car gets done still stands if there is any way I can help. I was concerned about where the car may end up, but when you told me where it was going I had no worries. I know the car is now in very capable hands.

Brian had been a good friend of mine for years prior to my hiring him, and after all of this, a close friend became a distant acquaintance because of this issue and some others he caused. This past weekend was the first weekend I have taken off in 3 months, and to be alerted in the middle of it by several customers and friends as to what was going on in this thread put me in a bad way. This whole issue with the front end and the trunk sickened me when it happened, and this just brought all of that back up. The fact that the car left my shop in that state, and then went to another is hard to handle as my reputation and business were not built on that quality level. I would hope that anyone that goes through the original build thread we had, would look at the other work I was doing and could tell a vast difference in the quality. But I also realize most commenting here are only looking at the problem areas that we are now addressing, and are completely ignoring the other areas that were done properly and are NOT issues.

As far as the mess that needs to be cleaned up, I will say that the outer dimensions of the hood, headlights and bumper are all in spec. as is the rear trunk. The original thread has pics of the hood and bumper bolted and rough lined up so you can see there, that the gaps are all good. It's not my job anymore, but my plan was a lot of heating, hammering and dollying, and some reworking to clean things up as it is all pretty much cosmetic, and I don't see any need to remove the panel and redo it all. But that is not my decision to make at this point.

Again Michael, I am here for whatever I can do to help this move forward, and hopefully this thread will move forward in a positive manner now

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 31 2017, 01:59 PM

Great. I appreciate that Scotty.

Posted by: r_towle Aug 2 2017, 04:40 PM

Well, glad to see you making progress. I wish you the best luck on the journey and I really admire your positive attitude, it's refreshing.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 2 2017, 05:10 PM

Thanks - I appreciate that. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 5 2017, 05:28 PM

So in Jim's spare time....he wrapped my engine to prevent any issues from sitting around - nice!

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Then he took this horrible looking headlight surround-
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 5 2017, 05:29 PM

And turned them into this:

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Posted by: mb911 Aug 5 2017, 07:50 PM

Looks great. Did he just paint them or plastic blast them?

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 6 2017, 07:10 AM

I do not know. I am sure Jim will answer that when he gets a chance.
He did these turn signal buckets too:
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Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 6 2017, 11:15 AM

Glad to see this thread is back on track. Get-r-done!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 6 2017, 08:00 PM

I will do all I can to get my Six done as quickly as possible. I want to drive it while I am still able. I know Kent is committed to getting my Six squared away like it deserves and shot in a color I can't wait to see.

But tonight it is all about Jim's car firing up and driving for the first time in over 2 decades. I am so happy for him. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 914350 Aug 7 2017, 04:25 PM

Picked out a couple of doors I had upstairs and fit them to the car. I'll chemical strip the face/skin on these then send them out for media blasting of the inside and the shell this week along with some other parts.

Posting pics from my phone for the first time, SirAndy has made this easy. I'll be able to post more often. Thanks.


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Posted by: siverson Aug 7 2017, 04:49 PM

Glad to see this moving forward again!

-Steve

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 7 2017, 09:41 PM

Terrific Kent. Glad to hear about posting pics from your phone too. I will have to give that a try. Thanks for posting the door pic.

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 7 2017, 10:17 PM

Jim does amazing small stuff. That seems to be his forte.

I think he worked in one of Santa's workshops in a previous life.....

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 8 2017, 07:29 AM

I am thankful for anything he can do for my Six. I appreciate all of it.

Posted by: Blue6 Aug 8 2017, 09:18 AM

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Jim does amazing small stuff. That seems to be his forte.

I think he worked in one of Santa's workshops in a previous life.....


Wow Lawrence,
What are you trying to say about Jim being used to handling small things... blink.gif

Posted by: 914350 Aug 8 2017, 02:20 PM

Progress pics.


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More pics.


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Posted by: cal914 Aug 8 2017, 02:40 PM

Looks like you've got the right Guy on the car now, and after what youve been through you deserve it

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 8 2017, 05:44 PM

Thanks cal914. I am very appreciative Jim, Andy, Kent and I spoke. I believe my car is going to come together pretty rapidly now. And as I explained in earlier posts, I will hide nothing.

Those two doors look great. I had my original doors replaced with late model doors but upon inspection it was determined correcting existing issues would be more costly than replacing them with nice doors. Now we have two great doors going on my Six. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mb911 Aug 8 2017, 07:27 PM

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Thanks cal914. I am very appreciative Jim, Andy, Kent and I spoke. I believe my car is going to come together pretty rapidly now. And as I explained in earlier posts, I will hide nothing.

Those two doors look great. I had my original doors replaced with late model doors but upon inspection it was determined correcting existing issues would be more costly than replacing them with nice doors. Now we have two great doors going on my Six. beerchug.gif



What's the target for completion? It looks like its moving quickly now. Much faster then mine.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 8 2017, 09:14 PM

Ben - I really don't know. I just know that it will go as fast as Kent, Andy, Jim and maybe a couple others can go. I will not be impeding the build in any way.

When it comes to major parts still needed, I am not aware of any really. I know I need a new windshield (tinted), suspension blasted and powder coated, upholstery done (we already have the leather), carpets, bumpers finish metal and body work and then chromed, almost all weather strips and seals, starter, fuel pump, battery, new F&R bumper pads, license plate lights, CV joints and axles, a clear lens high-mount LED 3rd brake light custom fabbed into the top of the "Targa" bar in the SS trim, and a few other items. I did have new large tube SS heat exchangers and muffler on the list, but now that is handled smile.gif . I am really excited about that.

So hopefully this will go smoothly and we will see it come together nicely.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 8 2017, 09:19 PM

Jim sent me these pics tonight. This is an example of the attention to detail, terrific work he does. That headlight assembly bucket is perfect. The windshield washer bottle looks killer too. At the rate Jim is going he is going to have all my parts sorted and restored before I even return to Torrance CA at the end of the month.


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Posted by: cal914 Aug 9 2017, 04:51 AM

How did he get that bottle looking so good

Posted by: simonjb Aug 9 2017, 08:16 AM

I'd like to know how he got the bottle so white also. Bleach? Ajax? Peroxide gel?

Posted by: 914350 Aug 10 2017, 12:36 PM

Dropped of parts for media blasting


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OK, so Jim has been a busy dude lately working on my windshield wiper assembly. It looks terrific of course. beerchug.gif

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 12 2017, 04:39 PM

Uhhhh, I may have forgotten to tell Jim I have a GT Hockey Puck for my steering wheel. I hope he did not spend a lot of time on this. Of course I am keeping it as I may change back and forth between the butterfly and the hockey puck. biggrin.gif

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Posted by: r_towle Aug 12 2017, 05:05 PM

Seriously, how long is the waiting list?
Metalwork and paint, tub only.

Posted by: porschetub Aug 12 2017, 05:26 PM

Wow happening real fast.....run away train biggrin.gif .
The attention to detail amazing,as mentioned that washer bottle ...holy .

Posted by: Larmo63 Aug 12 2017, 07:49 PM

It's fun to see these /6 projects coming out of Kent's shop. I imagine his personal six is next in line??

I can't wait to see another beautiful Adriatic Blue 914-6 in the mix.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 12 2017, 08:02 PM

Jim- you need to slow down and pace yourself. I want to be able to help.

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Jim has been at it again:




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Posted by: mb911 Aug 13 2017, 06:51 PM

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Jim has been at it again:

Vapor blasting or how is he accomplishing these finishes??

Michael at this point you maybe waiting on me with the muffler..

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 13 2017, 07:03 PM

Ben - I know - Jim is killing it for sure. I can't wait to go down to LA at the end of the month and check things out.

I am looking forward to seeing your heat exchangers and muffler when they are done. I think once the chassis is finished and in color this Six is going to come together nicely. My goal is to have everything waiting for assembly so there are no delays in assembly due to missing parts.

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Seriously, how long is the waiting list?
Metalwork and paint, tub only.


PM sent.


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Ben - I know - Jim is killing it for sure. I can't wait to go down to LA at the end of the month and check things out.

I am looking forward to seeing your heat exchangers and muffler when they are done. I think once the chassis is finished and in color this Six is going to come together nicely. My goal is to have everything waiting for assemble so there are no delays in assembly due to missing parts.


I was at Jim's yesterday helping with the assembly on his Six and got to see many of the parts that he is restoring for your Six...beautiful work.

Posted by: 914350 Aug 14 2017, 08:39 AM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Aug 12 2017, 06:49 PM) *

It's fun to see these /6 projects coming out of Kent's shop. I imagine his personal six is next in line??

I can't wait to see another beautiful Adriatic Blue 914-6 in the mix.


Hi Larmo,

My Six will have to wait, to busy for now. I did however pull the engine out a while back and I'm working on it when I can. I'm collecting up parts for now. I picked up a set of NOS Quarter Panels, that was a nice find.


Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 14 2017, 03:21 PM

Kent- NOS quarter panels is definitely a great find. I was looking for a passenger side quarter with no luck about 2 years ago. The Gods are smiling on you with that find.


Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 15 2017, 08:59 AM

OK - I had to buy a windshield - sorry it is tinted, not clear. Oh, and I borrowed this picture from 914 7T3 since I could not find another. Hope that was OK.


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Posted by: 914350 Aug 23 2017, 06:04 PM

Got the Six on the Jig today. I'll see you on Sat. And we'll go over the car. I just got the 911 done and back to Tony Callas today so I'm ready to dig into your Six now. I should have the parts back from media blasting by friday.

All the suspension points etc. lined up great on the Jig as expected, the car hasn't been in any major accents.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 23 2017, 06:40 PM

Kent - Thanks for posting the pics of my car on the rotisserie and the frame jig. I am so glad to hear all of the suspension points are spot-on. I look forward to seeing you on Saturday and discussing my car. Food should be a part of that discussion - chowtime.gif

Posted by: Blue6 Aug 23 2017, 11:50 PM

If Kent suggests In and Out for lunch, just a heads up, don't ride in the back seat of the van. chowtime.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 24 2017, 06:54 AM

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Posted by: rangrbob Aug 24 2017, 02:37 PM

Michael,

Hope you car comes along quickly now. You have waited long enough! Your valance is on its way to Kent. I'm glad I could help out in a small way with the restoration of your car.

Just in case you haven't been teased enough about the color, I've included a pic of my car for inspiration. rolleyes.gif

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 24 2017, 02:42 PM

Hey Karl- Thanks so much for selling me that valance. It will go perfectly with Ben's new SS heat exchangers and muffler. Your car looks terrific. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 27 2017, 10:29 PM

So I just got home about 1 hour ago from spending the weekend down in Southern California seeing Jim, Kent, Andy and my Six. My brother went with with and we had a great time. These 3 guys are just cut from the same cloth- they are a pleasure to be around and talk with.

I was able to see my car on a rotisserie in good lighting and go over the whole car and discuss all aspects of the chassis with Kent and Jim. Kent will be putting in some time on this car to get it where I need it to be.

I also was able to go through a lot of my parts, not all of them, and identify some things that appear to be MIA at the moment. I will be emailing Scott and asking him to keep an eye out for them so he can ship them to me. I also somehow ended up with a refinished 911 oil tank instead of my refinished Six oil tank - pretty sure we just mixed up a box. I will ship that 911 tank back to Scott so he can ship me my correct tank with some other parts.

The next time I go down to SoCal I will continue going through the parts and hopefully be done with that at that time. That should allow me to send Scott a final list of items we are looking for.

I also got a chance to hear Jim's Six run - wow it sounds (and smells) sweet.

Then the cherry on the top was seeing Andy's Six - first.gif I can honestly tell you the pictures do not do it justice. OMG! It is just beautiful. Then he had to start it......let's just say that is one healthy motor.

At my age, plaque is always a concern in one's arteries....I am sure Andy knew that so he offered me a ride in his car. An offer no-one in their right mind would ever refuse. I am pretty sure that my doctor would be impressed with my circulatory system now. I should be good for another 10-20 years. That is one strong running, sweet riding, Six. It was a nice ride, not just down the street and back. I hope my car is not that fast or I will hurt myself. Thank you Andy for a ride I will be talking about for the next decade.

Unfortunately my brother and I had to hit the road right before noon so we missed what I am sure would have been a terrific lunch. But we knew we had a 6-7 hour ride back up north. Then I had to go grab my car from the airport since we flew down, rented a van and then drove back with assorted parts.

I will post a couple of pictures when I get a chance. Probably later this week.

Again, thanks to Jim, Kent and Andy for a great time. beerchug.gif

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 28 2017, 04:17 PM

Photo of my Six being spit roasted:
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Posted by: 914350 Aug 28 2017, 09:33 PM

Parts back from blasting.


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Posted by: 914350 Aug 30 2017, 09:45 AM

Received the rear valence today from rangrbob. Excellent piece in great condition. biggrin.gif


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 30 2017, 11:09 AM

That is a very nice looking original Six valance. Definitely going on my car. Thanks Karl (rangrbob). Great picture- thanks for posting that Kent.

Posted by: 914350 Aug 31 2017, 03:03 PM

More pics. Tuning up the underside.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 31 2017, 05:13 PM

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Posted by: mb911 Aug 31 2017, 05:18 PM

Looking good. I am working on similar items on my car right now and most people have no idea how long it takes to correct these little things..


Posted by: burton73 Aug 31 2017, 07:43 PM

Those little things go on and on and when done correctly you will have a car that is finished in some ways better than new.
A true work of ART

Bob B
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Posted by: 914350 Sep 6 2017, 02:02 PM

Created the drain channels in the panel then made the flange that comes down over them...also located and welded in the nut for the rocker cover.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 6 2017, 04:46 PM

Now it's starting to look like a nice straight pan. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 6 2017, 04:55 PM

Kent must be a reincarnated 914 factory body worker. He seems to know these cars pretty intimately.

Looks great!!

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 6 2017, 07:46 PM

Thanks Larmo63 for checking on my build progress. I can't emphasize enough how happy I am with my Six being in the hands of Kent, Andy and Jim. I feel very fortunate.

Posted by: stevegm Sep 7 2017, 06:16 AM

It looks like it’s coming along very nicely.

Posted by: nine11speedster Sep 8 2017, 12:21 AM

its always pleasing to see great progress! Looking good Michael!

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Posted by: 914350 Sep 19 2017, 02:46 PM

Been cleaning and straightening up the bottom of the car. Lots of little things. Should get a few parts I need from Restoration Design this week. Getting close to sealing the underside.


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Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2017, 04:30 PM

Michael car is looking awesome. Any way you could measure the bottom of the floor pan to the top of the engine mount for me? I know I am jumping in on this thread but I would love to get a real six measurements..

Keep up the great work..

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Michael car is looking awesome. Any way you could measure the bottom of the floor pan to the top of the engine mount for me? I know I am jumping in on this thread but I would love to get a real six measurements..

Keep up the great work..


Hard to see but it measures 8.5". The second measurement is aprox. 2.25" and is from the top of the engine mount to the engine tray where the seal seats. Hope this is what you were looking for. Do the conversion for metric if needed.


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Posted by: mb911 Sep 19 2017, 06:41 PM

Perfect.. Thanks.

Posted by: 914350 Oct 4 2017, 12:47 PM

Still chipping away at the stone. Eyes are finaly starting to recover from LASIK...it's been miserable. A couple of drops in each eye and the next day your back to work is extremely misleading.


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Posted by: mb911 Oct 4 2017, 01:48 PM

Looking great and thanks for the help on the measurements. I installed my mount 2 days ago..

Keep up the great work..

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 4 2017, 04:46 PM

Yeah Kent, getting older is not for the faint of heart.... BTW, excellent work- love seeing progress pictures. I know you have done more, but are shy about posting pictures. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 914350 Oct 7 2017, 04:13 PM

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Posted by: mb911 Oct 8 2017, 05:53 AM

I wish my Frankenstein car would have been this clean to start with.. Looks great.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 8 2017, 06:26 AM

HI Ben- You did see my thread (Part 1) from the beginning, right? biggrin.gif

Posted by: mb911 Oct 8 2017, 06:52 AM

Oops just looked it up yes I recall it now.. I guess yours was rough to start with..

Posted by: raynekat Oct 8 2017, 01:53 PM

Lot of metalwork going on with some of our cars...
Nice to be getting these back in tip top shape.
Well done.

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Posted by: gcrotvik Oct 9 2017, 01:30 PM

QUOTE(914350 @ Sep 19 2017, 05:04 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 19 2017, 03:30 PM) *

Michael car is looking awesome. Any way you could measure the bottom of the floor pan to the top of the engine mount for me? I know I am jumping in on this thread but I would love to get a real six measurements..

Keep up the great work..


Hard to see but it measures 8.5". The second measurement is aprox. 2.25" and is from the top of the engine mount to the engine tray where the seal seats. Hope this is what you were looking for. Do the conversion for metric if needed.


Could you provide one more measurement? I have an aftermarket mount that I purchased from Mittlemotor GmbH and I'd like to confirm the distance from the firewall to the center of the rubber mount hole. See the picture below. And, THANK YOU!

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QUOTE(914350 @ Sep 19 2017, 05:04 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 19 2017, 03:30 PM) *

Michael car is looking awesome. Any way you could measure the bottom of the floor pan to the top of the engine mount for me? I know I am jumping in on this thread but I would love to get a real six measurements..

Keep up the great work..


Hard to see but it measures 8.5". The second measurement is aprox. 2.25" and is from the top of the engine mount to the engine tray where the seal seats. Hope this is what you were looking for. Do the conversion for metric if needed.


Could you provide one more measurement? I have an aftermarket mount that I purchased from Mittlemotor GmbH and I'd like to confirm the distance from the firewall to the center of the rubber mount hole. See the picture below. And, THANK YOU!

Greg

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Posted by: 914350 Oct 9 2017, 05:16 PM

Pic of damage to new trunk floor section that was damaged during transport...fixed.


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Posted by: porschetub Oct 9 2017, 05:31 PM

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Oops just looked it up yes I recall it now.. I guess yours was rough to start with..


Funny went the same way over a coffee or 2 this morning it was a rough car....look @ it now w00t.gif w00t.gif .

Posted by: wndsnd Oct 10 2017, 03:52 PM

It is amazing the progress on this car.

Progress, and what looks to be very high quality of work.

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Love checking in on this...

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 10 2017, 05:02 PM

I am heading to Torrance this weekend to see Kent, Jim, Andy and my Six. I am excited to see the progress Kent is making. Additionally, I know Jim has been busy working on components so when it comes time for assembly, we just unwrap them and install them. I am overjoyed with the progress being made as well as the quality of the work. I eagerly look forward to Kent being able to just get to the body work and paint.

I am so ready for the metal work to be over. Seems like I have been waiting for that for 5 years...oh wait, I have! Of course that was not with Kent - Kent has jumped on my car and been busy getting things right. Thank you Kent. pray.gif

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QUOTE(gcrotvik @ Oct 9 2017, 12:30 PM) *

QUOTE(914350 @ Sep 19 2017, 05:04 PM) *

QUOTE(mb911 @ Sep 19 2017, 03:30 PM) *

Michael car is looking awesome. Any way you could measure the bottom of the floor pan to the top of the engine mount for me? I know I am jumping in on this thread but I would love to get a real six measurements..

Keep up the great work..


Hard to see but it measures 8.5". The second measurement is aprox. 2.25" and is from the top of the engine mount to the engine tray where the seal seats. Hope this is what you were looking for. Do the conversion for metric if needed.


Could you provide one more measurement? I have an aftermarket mount that I purchased from Mittlemotor GmbH and I'd like to confirm the distance from the firewall to the center of the rubber mount hole. See the picture below. And, THANK YOU!

Greg

Here you go.


Thank you!

Posted by: mepstein Oct 10 2017, 06:16 PM

Michael - I can guarantee you will like the 3.2 in that car.
Just one suggestion. Try to fit the wheels and tires on the car before paint.
My clearances are tight and I’m using 6” wheels with 205x60x15 tires and it’s close.

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 11 2017, 04:17 PM

Looks nice and straight and clean and free of rust, etc.
Definitely progressing along nicely.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 11 2017, 04:18 PM

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smilie_pokal.gif Wow! I can't wait to see that in person. I have waited a long time to see the bottom of this car looking that nice. beerchug.gif Nice work Kent.


Apparently so has Kent. Now that he's had his eyes fixed he can see what he's working on. We thought Jims car turned great. Can't imagine yours now that Kent can see... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 12 2017, 05:44 AM

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Posted by: Larmo63 Oct 12 2017, 07:54 AM

Are you coming down this weekend? I'd like to see the car at Kent's and have a 914 bull session.

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Are you coming down this weekend? I'd like to see the car at Kent's and have a 914 bull session.


Me too! (maybe if I can get some time away) Where and when if the "public" is invited?!?! smile.gif

-Steve

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Are you coming down this weekend? I'd like to see the car at Kent's and have a 914 bull session.


Me too! (maybe if I can get some time away) Where and when if the "public" is invited?!?! smile.gif

-Steve

Unfortunately I need to leave right after I meet with Mike, some time in the future thoughl would be fine. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 12 2017, 10:10 PM

Sorry guys. I would love to meet you both. Let's do it another time. I have to respect Kent's time. I plan on going down monthly so we will have a chance to meet in the future. Plus that will give Kent more time to get the chassis whipped into shape.

Maybe we could make it either before or after Thanksgiving? It would be a Saturday, not the Thanksgiving weekend, that's for sure. Don't want to add to the holiday traffic madness. I won't be able to nail down the date until I am in November due to my constantly changing schedule. But I think it would be fun to meet, have lunch and "cut it up" as "they" say. beerchug.gif

Also, if you have not seen Kent's work in person, I think it will blow you away. Pictures are good, but not as good as actually looking at the work in person. Andy and Jim's cars are just awe inspiring.

Posted by: Larmo63 Oct 12 2017, 10:42 PM

No worries. I just want to meet up some time if we can work it out.

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I would enjoy that. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 14 2017, 01:46 AM

Have had the week from Hell with crazy work and hours. Got home at 10:00 last night and went to bed and then got up at midnight so I can be on the road by 0200 to p/up my brother so we can drive down to see Kent, Jim and Andy. Been looking forward to that all week. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 16 2017, 07:28 AM

Back from southern CA - Had a great visit with Kent, Jim, Andy and my Six. beerchug.gif The bottom of the car is looking really nice smash.gif welder.gif .

However, in talking about the front of the car, it was decided that the front panel on the car needs to be replaced to make the front end correct. sad.gif As you can imagine, this was disappointing to me since it was already replaced a few years ago. wacko.gif But, in the end, it will be cheaper and easier to get the front end panels correct this way. I have posted a WTB and am once again chasing down an early nose panel. type.gif

My brother and I were able to spend some time with Jim going through my parts and I was able to complete my inventory of the parts I have and what I did not get when I picked my car up. I will get my list, it is short, to Scotty. He has been waiting for the complete list so he can gather and ship my stuff in one batch. I look forward to seeing those parts soon.

Also, spent more time looking at Jim's Six... w00t.gif It is just amazing how nice his car is. It is like being transported back to 1970 and seeing one in the showroom of the dealership - only nicer. The depth of knowledge regarding these cars, between Jim, Kent and Andy, is just amazing. They really need to get a life beer.gif . Seriously, they know these cars. I am so glad my car is in their hands.

I will go back down to southern CA in December to check on my car again. I hope I am able to quickly find a nose panel and get it to Kent so that surgery is over before I have a chance to really think about it. popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: mb911 Oct 16 2017, 07:32 AM

That is disappointing.. Sorry to hear that..

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However, in talking about the front of the car, it was decided that the front panel on the car needs to be replaced to make the front end correct. sad.gif As you can imagine, this was disappointing to me since it was already replaced a few years ago. wacko.gif But, in the end, it will be cheaper and easier to get the front end panels correct this way. I have posted a WTB and am once again chasing down an early nose panel. type.gif



Might want to look at the auction MDShantz is having....might be a front clip in there

Or this one: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=317488

Posted by: 914350 Oct 16 2017, 02:48 PM

Working on the doors fixing some lite damage here and there.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 16 2017, 04:24 PM

Now that's what I'm talkin' about. That is how a car is supposed to be prepared when it is a full media blasted restoration. Great work Kent. Have some cheesy-bread on me. beerchug.gif Now I can't wait for December. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: siverson Oct 16 2017, 05:24 PM

Looks good!

> chasing down an early nose panel

What part are you looking for exactly?

-Steve

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 16 2017, 07:43 PM

Hi Steve - I believe I have sourced an early nose, the whole front panel behind the bumper. Should something happen I will reach out.

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Now that's what I'm talkin' about. That is how a car is supposed to be prepared when it is a full media blasted restoration. Great work Kent. Have some cheesy-bread on me. beerchug.gif Now I can't wait for December. smilie_pokal.gif


Mmmmm...that was good, don't forget the cheese infused butter.

Mike treated jim and I to an excellent sreak dinner last Sat. Delicious, Thanks Mike.

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Posted by: 914350 Oct 17 2017, 12:56 PM

At first glance I thought a PO had drilled right through the nut plate for the mirror mount. Lookin closer, I saw that they had drilled two holes just off to the side of the nut plate. I welded up the holes then located and drilled holes to reveal the threads in the nut plate.


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Posted by: 914350 Oct 17 2017, 01:10 PM

I showed how I locate and drill the holes for the mirror in Jims thread but I figured I show it in Mikes thread also.

I sprayed some black paint on the area.

Lathed a point on a bolt.

Screwed it in to the nut plate from inside of the door till it made a point in the metal.

Slightly sanded the area to reveal the mark then removed the bolt.

Used a punch to mark a guide for the drill.

Drilled a small hole.

Screwed a bolt in from the back to use as a stop so the threads don't get damaged.

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Posted by: 914350 Oct 17 2017, 01:14 PM

In the second pic you can see the bolt in the left hole that is used as a stop for the drill so that the threads don't get damaged.


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Posted by: 914350 Oct 17 2017, 01:15 PM

Holes for Passenger mirror.


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Posted by: 914350 Oct 17 2017, 03:06 PM

More pics.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 17 2017, 04:52 PM

Hi Kent - Thanks for the hard work and photos showing it all. I believe you will have a nice nose panel pretty soon.

I have said it before but it never hurts to hear it again. When doing a full restoration or resto-mod (since my car is getting an '87 3.2 and a couple other minor changes) on these cars, or any other type of work, documentation is what wins the day and maintains value.

If one were to ever sell a car claiming it was a bare metal restoration, and they did not have the photos, sorry- you lose. I have seen to many threads claiming bare metal restorations and then you see the pics and the cars were only partially stripped.

The same goes for rebuilt engines, pictures and receipts are needed or it is a core engine or running engine with no history and valued accordingly.

When our cars were inexpensive, who really cared? But now that any clean 914 is bringing $25K or more and Sixes are hitting the $100K mark, people expect to see the paperwork. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 914350 Oct 17 2017, 07:01 PM

Pic.


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Posted by: cary Oct 17 2017, 10:35 PM

Michael and Kent the car/project is looking awesome................
The craftsmanship is stunning.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 18 2017, 06:30 AM

Thanks Cary - But the credit goes to Kent. He alone is taking care of this chassis to make it like new. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 914forme Oct 18 2017, 06:47 AM

QUOTE(cary @ Oct 18 2017, 12:35 AM) *

Michael and Kent the car/project is looking awesome................
The craftsmanship is stunning.

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Thank you for the tip on the mirror location, missed the other thread, now thinking I want to go back and read that one also.


Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 18 2017, 07:33 AM

OK - Looks like I got very lucky here and this is the NOS nose going on my Six.....

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Posted by: cary Oct 18 2017, 08:33 AM

Score ...............

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Oct 18 2017, 09:18 AM

Can I buy the old one from you? Mine is missing the curve, probably from a accident, which is causing the hood not to close.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 18 2017, 09:26 AM

Timothy_nd28 - If it comes off in one piece, you can have it for the shipping. However, I believe it will not come off well or in one piece. sawzall-smiley.gif

One of the reasons we are replacing the nose on the car is it is creating issues with the whole front end and panel alignment. Evaluating it, we decided it would be easier to replace it rather than trying to remove and re-install it. Stay tuned for pictures of that in the near future once Kent has the new panel in his hands. To be honest, I am really excited to see this front end get buttoned down and finished.

Posted by: 914350 Oct 18 2017, 02:58 PM

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Posted by: peteyd Oct 18 2017, 02:58 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 18 2017, 07:26 AM) *

Timothy_nd28 - If it comes off in one piece, you can have it for the shipping. However, I believe it will not come off well or in one piece. sawzall-smiley.gif

One of the reasons we are replacing the nose on the car is it is creating issues with the whole front end and panel alignment. Evaluating it, we decided it would be easier to replace it rather than trying to remove and re-install it. Stay tuned for pictures of that in the near future once Kent has the new panel in his hands. To be honest, I am really excited to see this front end get buttoned down and finished.


Correct me if Im wrong, but the /6 front panel has different depressions in some areas. I dont know how nitpicky you are getting, but here is the correct depressions on a /6 front latch.

Pete

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 18 2017, 04:27 PM

Really? I would be a bit surprised if there was a special nose panel for the Sixes. No reason for there to be really. I am sure the one I bought is just a new NOS panel for an early car. I hope someone can confirm this special detail.

Posted by: mepstein Oct 18 2017, 04:42 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Oct 18 2017, 06:27 PM) *

Really? I would be a bit surprised if there was a special nose panel for the Sixes. No reason for there to be really. I am sure the one I bought is just a new NOS panel for an early car. I hope someone can confirm this special detail.

I had never heard of a difference either but I do t have a real 6 to check

Posted by: 914forme Oct 18 2017, 04:56 PM

SocalAndy's car hard to see.




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