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Posted by: dax1969 Sep 18 2017, 06:05 AM

Hi,

Sorry for double post in other thread (faster reply here in the garage) but need to know what brand of wheels the below are. Thought Riviera but the ones I found are with silver insert and not black.

Also, do you know what kind of meter this is ? Oilpressure ?

car = 1973 2.0 euro spec

thks

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Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 18 2017, 06:18 AM

The wheels are ATS, the gauge is likely older aftermarket VDO.

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Posted by: dax1969 Sep 18 2017, 06:35 AM


Thks Mark Henry. Those wheels are aftermarket and not original ? 1973 it should have babyfuchs rims ?

The VDO meter is an oilpressure meter ? If it works what should it read ? Think you guys have PSI but I can see kg2/km... ???
This meter was never standard in a 914 euro spec ? Any idea out of which car it could come ?

Sorry for asking but checking on a car tomorrow and want to be prepared

krgds
Dax

Posted by: 914Sixer Sep 18 2017, 07:05 AM

Oil gauge looks like it is from an Opel GT. New VDO gauges are available for about $40.

Posted by: barefoot Sep 18 2017, 07:27 AM

QUOTE(dax1969 @ Sep 18 2017, 08:35 AM) *

Thks Mark Henry. Those wheels are aftermarket and not original ? 1973 it should have babyfuchs rims ?

The VDO meter is an oilpressure meter ? If it works what should it read ? Think you guys have PSI but I can see kg2/km... ???
This meter was never standard in a 914 euro spec ? Any idea out of which car it could come ?

Sorry for asking but checking on a car tomorrow and want to be prepared

krgds
Dax

the Kp is kilopascal and = to .01 bar. not sure about the km, doesn't make sense.
1 bar=14.5 psi, so I'm guessing it's just reading in bar units.

Posted by: Tom_T Sep 18 2017, 09:58 AM

QUOTE(dax1969 @ Sep 18 2017, 05:35 AM) *

Thks Mark Henry. Those wheels are aftermarket and not original ? 1973 it should have babyfuchs rims ?

The VDO meter is an oilpressure meter ? If it works what should it read ? Think you guys have PSI but I can see kg2/km... ???
This meter was never standard in a 914 euro spec ? Any idea out of which car it could come ?

Sorry for asking but checking on a car tomorrow and want to be prepared

krgds
Dax


Hi Dax,

Wheels:
1973 could have had either the 4-Lug Fuchs 2L wheels (Baby Fuchs), or Pedrine alloy, or Mahle 4-lug Baby Gas Burner alloys, or the "Star Mag Style" steel wheels. Your 914's Certificate of Authenticity (COA) should say which it was, or you may have to do a bit of research (for example, if it were a 2.0 built for the USA from Aug. 72 to early 73, then it would probably have had the 2L Fuchs, since in the USA it was marketed as a "fully loaded" with both Appearance & Performance/Sport Groups of options as the "914S" - while later in the 73 MY for 2L's & for the 1.7s it could be any of the 4.

Also, the original owner could've ordered any wheels set or had them swapped at the dealer when new.

Of course the dealers could have also put on those ATS wheels or any others, or at any point since at any tire & wheel shop in the 4+ decades since.


OT Gauge:
I think that Mark Heard is right, that the VDO oil temp is from an Opel GT of that era, based on my fuzzy memory from the late 1960's when the Dad of a high school lady friend had a 68 or 69 GT.

EDIT: I think that the numbers are for x100 degrees F. <?? I'll defer to Barefoot above, because I can't read the tiny print on that gauge pic, but oil pressure is the other obvious choice, but the 1-5 ticks didn't make sense to me!?

You can see pix of the correct 914 gauges by years at p914.com ( & .net & .org) - the 73 should have had the wider red band version - whether the one in the center console, or the combo fuel/OT gauge in the dash pod.

You should also go to Jeff Bowlsby's 914 website (find him in members here & he has links in his signature section), & download the 914 inspection form .pdf - which I think is in the tech documents section, & use that when you see the car, & give it to any mechanic who does the PPI for you.

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Posted by: worn Sep 18 2017, 10:32 AM

QUOTE(barefoot @ Sep 18 2017, 05:27 AM) *


the Kp is kilopascal and = to .01 bar. not sure about the km, doesn't make sense.
1 bar=14.5 psi, so I'm guessing it's just reading in bar units.


Looks like kiloPascals per square centimeter. That and the OEL below make me think it is indeed an oil pressure gauge.

Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 18 2017, 11:07 AM

QUOTE(worn @ Sep 18 2017, 12:32 PM) *

QUOTE(barefoot @ Sep 18 2017, 05:27 AM) *


the Kp is kilopascal and = to .01 bar. not sure about the km, doesn't make sense.
1 bar=14.5 psi, so I'm guessing it's just reading in bar units.


Looks like kiloPascals per square centimeter. That and the OEL below make me think it is indeed an oil pressure gauge.



Wrong.......Americans rolleyes.gif .....tisk-tisk slap.gif
You should have embraced the metric system. shades.gif

I can't read it but it's likeley it's kgf/cm^, other clue is it only goes up to 5.
kilopascale = .14 psi
kilogram/cm^ =14.2 psi

Posted by: dax1969 Sep 18 2017, 03:06 PM

Thanks to all of you. I will see the car tomorrow and will take a closer look on the gauges. What I could see on the pictures is that the gauges are wrongly mounted. Top is this funny "opel gt" gauge, middle volt and below the clock. What I could find is that clock must be on top. Most pics on google are fm usa spec cars and I am not sure if euro spec are different.

ATS wheels, not my cup of tea but ok these things can be changed. First checking the mechanical and cosmetic side

Greetings
Dax

Posted by: napasteve Sep 18 2017, 08:25 PM

Mark, we Americans are inching our way toward metric! smile.gif

Posted by: twistedstang Sep 19 2017, 05:30 AM

QUOTE
Wrong.......Americans rolleyes.gif .....tisk-tisk slap.gif
You should have embraced the metric system. shades.gif

I can't read it but it's likeley it's kgf/cm^, other clue is it only goes up to 5.
kilopascale = .14 psi
kilogram/cm^ =14.2 psi


Just remember. There are two kinds of countries in this world. Those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon.
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Posted by: Larmo63 Sep 19 2017, 09:46 AM

At this point, I doubt we really ever went to the moon.

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Posted by: dax1969 Sep 19 2017, 09:58 AM

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Had a look today and indeed "oel" german for oil and kp/cm2.
Car showed 4 on the meter but have no clue if this is good. Saw the invoice of 6000 euro for the interior but the upholsterer has put in the gauges in the wrong way. Great

Krgds
Dax

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 19 2017, 10:46 AM

QUOTE(twistedstang @ Sep 19 2017, 04:30 AM) *
Just remember. There are two kinds of countries in this world. Those that use the metric system, and those that have been to the moon.

You do realize that all the telemetry for your moon flight was done in metric, yes?
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Also, we pesky Germans build those moon rockets for you, you are welcome!
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Posted by: 87m491 Sep 19 2017, 11:35 AM

1 KiloPascal= 1 Bar = 1.01 Atmosphere = 14.5 PSI

So your showing ~ 4.5 bar of oil pressure or ~65 PSI which is very good or great depending on oil temp and RPM.


QUOTE(dax1969 @ Sep 19 2017, 07:58 AM) *


Had a look today and indeed "oel" german for oil and kp/cm2.
Car showed 4 on the meter but have no clue if this is good. Saw the invoice of 6000 euro for the interior but the upholsterer has put in the gauges in the wrong way. Great

Krgds
Dax

Posted by: Rav914 Sep 19 2017, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 19 2017, 09:46 AM) *

Also, we pesky Germans build those moon rockets for you, you are welcome!
smilie_flagge6.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYco0UsWhLc

From "The Right Stuff"

Posted by: burton73 Sep 19 2017, 03:53 PM

QUOTE(napasteve @ Sep 18 2017, 07:25 PM) *

Mark, we Americans are inching our way toward metric! smile.gif



What no Whitworth!

Just when you thought it was safe with 2 tool sets.

Bob B

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Sep 24 2017, 02:08 PM

Mark, we Americans are one foot closer toward metric!

Posted by: walterolin Sep 24 2017, 06:29 PM

"Wrong.......Americans.....tisk-tisk ...
You should have embraced the metric system."

Somebody needs to tell the Canadian National Railroad...


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