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Posted by: 76-914 Oct 11 2017, 11:34 AM

I feel guilty about posting this as others here struggle with their loss from our current fires. Bad timing and I'll blame that on the shipper's. I had planned to have this here 6 weeks ago but due to incompetent shippers (I went thru 3 before I found the right one) it took this long. Bob (Bullit) has the patience of Jobe and was an absolute pleasure to deal with thru out this ordeal.
Body wise, I seem to be regressing as my first 914 is a 76 hence my screen name. The 2nd a 73 and this one's a 70. Engine wise, I'm heading in the right direction. The 1st was a 4 banger, the 2nd a 6 and this one's a V-8. I may or may not keep this one as I can't imagine it handling as well as the other 2 with the higher center of gravity. That and the six is a handful so I can't imagine I'd ever get a handle on the 50% power increase of the 70.
But the price was right and I needed something to keep me busy. Speaking of; I can't get the rear trunk open, yet. lol-2.gif This week I plan to familiarize myself with it. Next up; compression and/or leak down test to verify what I've been told about the engine then get it started. Then on to electrical, brakes, transmission, cooling, etc, etc. I'll start a separate build tread shortly! beerchug.gif

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Stable mates!

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Posted by: Edward Blume Oct 11 2017, 11:37 AM

Nice car. If you don't have a neck brace, you'll need one. av-943.gif

Posted by: ValcoOscar Oct 11 2017, 11:52 AM

Wow Kent...No word lately so I thought the deal died.

What a score!

Can't wait to see it in person.

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Posted by: Larmo63 Oct 11 2017, 11:55 AM

You are a very sick man, Kent. Get help.

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Posted by: rick 918-S Oct 11 2017, 11:59 AM

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Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 11 2017, 12:19 PM

Where's the white car?

Posted by: burton73 Oct 11 2017, 12:34 PM

Finish off that baby and enjoy it. After you get it all sorted out then if you do not love it sell it to a guy that needs a rocket. He will and you will be happy you did.
I bought my first 914-8 in almost the same shape from one of the guitarists from Earth, Wind and Fire. Finished it up drove it for 6 months and turned a very nice profit. This was back in 1979

Bob B
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Posted by: sb914 Oct 11 2017, 04:47 PM

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Posted by: 914_teener Oct 11 2017, 05:05 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 11 2017, 11:19 AM) *

Where's the white car?

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Yea...what happened to it?

I don't know whether to congratulate you Kent or give condolences. laugh.gif

In any case fun adventures1

Posted by: Coondog Oct 11 2017, 05:26 PM

Good job..... first.gif

Posted by: Chris H. Oct 11 2017, 05:29 PM

Nice score Kent! Those are the same wheels I have on my car. Very light and strong. Boxster wheels. Are they all 7" wide or are the rears 8"?

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 11 2017, 05:59 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ Oct 11 2017, 04:05 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 11 2017, 11:19 AM) *

Where's the white car?

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Yea...what happened to it?

I don't know whether to congratulate you Kent or give condolences. laugh.gif

In any case fun adventures1

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 11 2017, 09:49 PM

Yes, I must be nuts but I need to stay busy at this age or Father Time will be at my door sooner rather than later. I went thru the parts that came with it and all I can say is WOW. There are 4 back pad lamps, everything rubber that is made by 914rubber. New tires, Boxster wheels as Chris pointed out, a spare tail light lens, spare turn signal lenses, eyebrows, new windshield trim, etc, etc. I will need to by a dash but not much else.
But getting to all that booty was a challenge. The rear truck was locked and I could not get the key to turn the final 5 degrees, no matter what. The rear trunk was packed so fully I couldn't access the latch. So I removed hinges and was able to raise the trunk lid about 6" and then proceeded remove stuff thru that opening until I could see the latch. Anyway, I'll cover everything in a new build thread coming soon. Very soon.
I still have the white car and she's under covers for the near future. I sheeplove.gif up when I bought the car in 2009 by repairing the battery tray, a small area below and adjacent to it with S Glass. chair.gif My thought at the time was S Glass is 5 times stronger than steel and wouldn't rust. The damage did not extend into the long and was basically surface rust. That non-standard repair put it in the same class as the rust buckets. So after this V8 project is done I'll make the proper repair to that area and get a respray. The car is so cherry everywhere else it will sell quickly. It still has the original dash. Cars like that with proper repairs and good paint are fetching 15-18K. As it sits now about 8K. sad.gif

Posted by: Chris H. Oct 12 2017, 08:35 AM

What engine is in that thing? What needs to be done to get it running?

Posted by: Mark Henry Oct 12 2017, 08:47 AM

A glutton for punishment. biggrin.gif

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Oct 12 2017, 10:03 AM

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Posted by: Steve Oct 12 2017, 10:12 AM

Congrats!! If the new car stresses you out, your welcome to let one of your 914 so cal friends borrow it!! Hint.. hint...

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 12 2017, 07:36 PM

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 11 2017, 04:29 PM) *

Nice score Kent! Those are the same wheels I have on my car. Very light and strong. Boxster wheels. Are they all 7" wide or are the rears 8"?

Chris, Here are some pics. Maybe 7" & 8.5"? The tires are 215/40 R17 & 245/40 R17.

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and one of the rear tire

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Posted by: 76-914 Oct 12 2017, 08:25 PM

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 12 2017, 07:35 AM) *

What engine is in that thing? What needs to be done to get it running?

Chris, I'm told it's a 68 327 .30 over (338 ci) flat top's w/ valve reliefs. I haven't ID'd the heads yet but the info I received was 993 heads, 2.02" I & 1.60" E valves, 76cc chambers, estimated cam lift on intake .450". I have nothing on the Ex lift. Compression 9.0. Appx HP 300. What I gleamed from some SBC sites re: torque is maybe 350 ft lbs. I don't yet know if it is a 4 bolt main or not. Moot point for me because IIRC, not much increase in torque after 5000rpm so no need to spool up the RPM's. PO said they did the 20 min break in. It hasn't been fired up since. I won't know Diddley until she fires up. The wiring needs to be sorted out but to answer your question; I need to get 12v to the dizzy/coil, connect fuel lines, fill tank, wire up electric choke and water pump, run and secure radiator lines. Here's a few pic's of the head which I'll need to ID. The last time I worked on an SBC there were only a few heads; Power Pack and FI, IIRC but that was in 1979.

From the break in run:

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Some ID marks on the heads

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Another

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Uno mas

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Posted by: 76-914 Oct 12 2017, 08:26 PM

QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Oct 12 2017, 07:47 AM) *

A glutton for punishment. biggrin.gif

Hah! Only if it is self inflicted. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 12 2017, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(Steve @ Oct 12 2017, 09:12 AM) *

Congrats!! If the new car stresses you out, your welcome to let one of your 914 so cal friends borrow it!! Hint.. hint...

I'll probably sell it to some 22yo kid then move so he doesn't come back wanting me to R&R the CV's every week. av-943.gif

Posted by: 914-300Hemi Oct 12 2017, 08:33 PM

nice looking car Kent. Can’t wait to see it in person.

Posted by: Chris H. Oct 13 2017, 09:28 AM

That is a GREAT engine for a 914. You're gonna love it. Hope it checks out and she fires right up for you.

Posted by: StratPlayer Oct 13 2017, 02:49 PM

Damn, from an air box put on backward to a V8....CRAZY beerchug.gif

Posted by: A&P Mech Oct 13 2017, 03:06 PM

Straight out of the headers and into the mufflers. blink.gif Wow that is a short exhaust! Kent, I was going to ask you when you plan on firing it up, but I am pretty sure I will have no problem hearing it here in Denver! av-943.gif Nice addition to the stable. beerchug.gif

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 13 2017, 04:18 PM

QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Oct 13 2017, 01:49 PM) *

Damn, from an air box put on backward to a V8....CRAZY beerchug.gif

av-943.gif Your not going to let me forget that! biggrin.gif I deserve it. What Jim is referring to is a RRC back in 2010, IIRC. I drove my 1st 914 (76-2.0) to the event and I was prouder than a two petered Puppy. I had only had it 8 months and driving it for about 4 months. Anyway, I had the engine grille open when Jim walks by and points out to me that my air cleaner was installed 180 degrees off. av-943.gif I wondered why I needed that tennis ball to keep the snout from rubbing against the wheel well. chair.gif Embarrassing to say the least. headbang.gif
Chris, I'm not sure if I will like it or not. If I wanted a dragster then yes. And I may dust a few fannies for the Hell of it but I'm not so sure of how it will handle. I really, really like the Suby flat six. It's marriage made in Heaven . er my garage that is.
Yea Ray, it probably will be loud but I've gotten some good advice on mufflers from Bob (Bigkat83), Andrew, Mike B & others who went before me with SBC's so that helps.
I do vacillate between titles for the new thread. Should I call it a "Build Thread" or an "Assembly Thread"? shades.gif What do you guys think? I need to start it because I already have some "brake" questions for the collective brain trust.

Posted by: 914forme Oct 13 2017, 05:32 PM

Nice Car, enjoy the process.

BTW, toss the carb, and put some EFI on it. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/shop/chevy-327-chevy-small-block-v8-fast-fuel-injection-kits~8736-47-11-2711 is about as easy as it gets.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-0912-efi-system-conversion/

Enjoy the work

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 13 2017, 05:35 PM

Third Strike.

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 13 2017, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 13 2017, 04:32 PM) *

Nice Car, enjoy the process.

BTW, toss the carb, and put some EFI on it. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/shop/chevy-327-chevy-small-block-v8-fast-fuel-injection-kits~8736-47-11-2711 is about as easy as it gets.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-0912-efi-system-conversion/

Enjoy the work

I'll keep it in mind Stephen. If the carb works I'll leave it. No sense in dropping 2K into it if not needed. This will never be my cruiser. Just a toy to put together, drive a bit and flip. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Oct 13 2017, 11:14 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 13 2017, 06:57 PM) *

QUOTE(914forme @ Oct 13 2017, 04:32 PM) *

Nice Car, enjoy the process.

BTW, toss the carb, and put some EFI on it. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/shop/chevy-327-chevy-small-block-v8-fast-fuel-injection-kits~8736-47-11-2711 is about as easy as it gets.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-0912-efi-system-conversion/

Enjoy the work

I'll keep it in mind Stephen. If the carb works I'll leave it. No sense in dropping 2K into it if not needed. This will never be my cruiser. Just a toy to put together, drive a bit and flip. beerchug.gif


Dang I wish I was closer so I can test drive it and help out with a little wrench time drooley.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Oct 14 2017, 06:05 AM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 12 2017, 10:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 12 2017, 07:35 AM) *

What engine is in that thing? What needs to be done to get it running?

Chris, I'm told it's a 68 327 .30 over (338 ci) flat top's w/ valve reliefs. I haven't ID'd the heads yet but the info I received was 993 heads, 2.02" I & 1.60" E valves, 76cc chambers, estimated cam lift on intake .450". I have nothing on the Ex lift. Compression 9.0. Appx HP 300. What I gleamed from some SBC sites re: torque is maybe 350 ft lbs. I don't yet know if it is a 4 bolt main or not. Moot point for me because IIRC, not much increase in torque after 5000rpm so no need to spool up the RPM's. PO said they did the 20 min break in. It hasn't been fired up since. I won't know Diddley until she fires up. The wiring needs to be sorted out but to answer your question; I need to get 12v to the dizzy/coil, connect fuel lines, fill tank, wire up electric choke and water pump, run and secure radiator lines. Here's a few pic's of the head which I'll need to ID. The last time I worked on an SBC there were only a few heads; Power Pack and FI, IIRC but that was in 1979.

From the break in run:

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Some ID marks on the heads

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Another

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Uno mas

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Have you googled the engine casting number ?
It's in your first cylinder head picture but not legible.
At least you'll know what it started life as.

Posted by: 76-914 Oct 14 2017, 10:16 AM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 14 2017, 05:05 AM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 12 2017, 10:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 12 2017, 07:35 AM) *

What engine is in that thing? What needs to be done to get it running?

Chris, I'm told it's a 68 327 .30 over (338 ci) flat top's w/ valve reliefs. I haven't ID'd the heads yet but the info I received was 993 heads, 2.02" I & 1.60" E valves, 76cc chambers, estimated cam lift on intake .450". I have nothing on the Ex lift. Compression 9.0. Appx HP 300. What I gleamed from some SBC sites re: torque is maybe 350 ft lbs. I don't yet know if it is a 4 bolt main or not. Moot point for me because IIRC, not much increase in torque after 5000rpm so no need to spool up the RPM's. PO said they did the 20 min break in. It hasn't been fired up since. I won't know Diddley until she fires up. The wiring needs to be sorted out but to answer your question; I need to get 12v to the dizzy/coil, connect fuel lines, fill tank, wire up electric choke and water pump, run and secure radiator lines. Here's a few pic's of the head which I'll need to ID. The last time I worked on an SBC there were only a few heads; Power Pack and FI, IIRC but that was in 1979.

From the break in run:

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Some ID marks on the heads

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Another

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Uno mas

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Have you googled the engine casting number ?
It's in your first cylinder head picture but not legible.
At least you'll know what it started life as.

Not yet. I tried to ID the heads from the PO's pics and narrowed it down to 2. I haven't checked since I took some good pic's. Thanks for the tip on the block, Rory. Didn't know that. I'll check this weekend. beerchug.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Oct 14 2017, 07:47 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 14 2017, 12:16 PM) *

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Oct 14 2017, 05:05 AM) *

QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 12 2017, 10:25 PM) *

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Oct 12 2017, 07:35 AM) *

What engine is in that thing? What needs to be done to get it running?

Chris, I'm told it's a 68 327 .30 over (338 ci) flat top's w/ valve reliefs. I haven't ID'd the heads yet but the info I received was 993 heads, 2.02" I & 1.60" E valves, 76cc chambers, estimated cam lift on intake .450". I have nothing on the Ex lift. Compression 9.0. Appx HP 300. What I gleamed from some SBC sites re: torque is maybe 350 ft lbs. I don't yet know if it is a 4 bolt main or not. Moot point for me because IIRC, not much increase in torque after 5000rpm so no need to spool up the RPM's. PO said they did the 20 min break in. It hasn't been fired up since. I won't know Diddley until she fires up. The wiring needs to be sorted out but to answer your question; I need to get 12v to the dizzy/coil, connect fuel lines, fill tank, wire up electric choke and water pump, run and secure radiator lines. Here's a few pic's of the head which I'll need to ID. The last time I worked on an SBC there were only a few heads; Power Pack and FI, IIRC but that was in 1979.

From the break in run:

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Some ID marks on the heads

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Another

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Uno mas

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Have you googled the engine casting number ?
It's in your first cylinder head picture but not legible.
At least you'll know what it started life as.

Not yet. I tried to ID the heads from the PO's pics and narrowed it down to 2. I haven't checked since I took some good pic's. Thanks for the tip on the block, Rory. Didn't know that. I'll check this weekend. beerchug.gif



Same goes for the cylinder heads.
The casting number is under the valve cover.
Google "Chevy block casting numbers"
More info than you'll ever need.
Written report please.

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